If I remember correctly, some other important nation has an election coming up in a month or two. This is just a rehearsal for what we can expect in November.
You could be right I'm not ruling it out because the Democrats imported 7 million people and are gonna try to get their votes counted even though the laws say no. Could we see riots in the streets? it's highly possible.
You are wrong. The U.S. statement was they have full proof that the election was rigged. So then show it already. When accusing it is you who have the burden of proof in law not the other way around.@@LiverpoolReject
@@HELLBENTLEGION-jp6cx You are wrong. They have the receipts from 80+% of polling places posted online. Even if Madura won 100% of the remaining polling places he couldn't overtake the lead of the opposition.
A whole lot of talking but not a whole lot of showing the tallies or any prove. A picture is worth 1 million words so no matter how much you speak unless you show any proof its just a fucking lie. It's ts that simple
Yeah, but the opposition got the most votes by over a 30% margin. The opposition can backup their claims with verifiable data. The Regime ask us to just believe them when they say they won. They say "you must believe in the unseen same as your religion ask you to believe". Apparently the Regime holds themselves in pretty high esteem. Unfortunately that's not an opinion widely held by the electorate.
The post-poll survey that is credited with that claim is supposed to be run by the US think tanks, who don’t exactly have the history of reporting the reality. Instead they make up the reality that they would like us to believe. Maduro is not popular among the people there yes, but even among Madura detractors, they do not by default support Machado and many say they and their family voted for Madura because to avoid Machado. It’s like if Dems won despite their genocide and being disliked because of the genocide; if they won it wouldn’t be because people like them but because people dislike Trump more.
Last I heard the opposition had also failed to disclose the "proof" they claimed to have that Maduro lost. Has this changed in the last few days? Have Maduro's government or the opposition released any of the evidence they both claim to have? Because until either side makes the evidence available, all this debate about who's right is pointless.
@@mdhamerly You've got it backwards, the opposition published the election data publicly on a website days after the election (you can easily find the website and view the tally sheets). The Maduro regime first claimed it had been hacked and couldn't release the data but somehow just knew they won and based on that alone certified Maduro President Elect. The Regime then asked their compliant Supreme Court to "investigate" thereby blocking any release of data for 15 days. They have compelled all opposition parties to turn over to them any data they may have, I'll give you one guess why.
It may help to understand what’s happening in Venezuela, by understanding how the global economy works. Why is the US involved? That may have something to do with debt. Debt is GDP, debt is power. Debt will make dignified living impossible.
The ignorance is free. This is not about the right or the left. It is about what is right and what is wrong. It is a shame that you invite to your program a reporter that is clearly a Maduro supporter. You cannot analyze this election just in the day of the event. You have to see the campaigns for both parties one that had to take by hundreds of buses people, mainly employees from the public service from one city to another, because they didn’t have people, and the other party where hundreds of thousands of people assisted willingly and spontaneously to see Maria Corina and Edmumdo. The day of the election those million of people went out to vote and defeated the current illegitimate President. Last election, the Company that made the voting machines, Smartmatic confirmed that the information reported by the electoral authority did not match what was reported by the machines. This election the Carter Center who for years has approved the integrity of the elections in Venezuela, this week reported that that the reports given by the electoral college were not accurate, and reported that the data confirms that Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia is the new president elect of Venezuela. Even if you may don’t like it, Nicolas Maduro was defeated and have to go
So the last five coups were fake. But this one, this one is real.... Like im not entirely convinced the election wasn't stolen. Waiting on more evidence. But if you can't at least have major questions with the US fingerprints all over it again. You support the empire's coup regime more then you stand for democracy
Why leftists assume that just because your anti west you are pro indigenous and human rights? How come no one asks any indigenous community what they think about Maduro or why leftist don't talk about Maduros extractivist practices that endanger indigenous communities? The Bolivarian revolution is no different then the US revolution against the British empire... both are Criollos that care less and do not represent any indigenous people and often use them as political pawns. Both fought for who gets the right to exploit the land... and here again all you are debating is who gets to exploit the land and commit further violence against indigenous communities. Pretty shameful! and misguided dialogs you people have on this platform.
@@mosca4380 yes and in this video they start up lie! Like 2 seconds of double checking and you can see not even the State media is making claims this bold!
You went from Marxism to Socialism under a dictator Chavez. It took Chavez 3 coop attempts to overthrow the ruling regime. He did make strides to improve his people's lives but it turned into a power struggle and his death. Maduro is his replacement and the people have done nothing but suffer.
@@ResistEvolve criollos left and right dont care about indigenous people, at least the right does not hide their racist intentions while the left loves to use and appropriating indigenous identity while being outright racist towards these first nation communities. That is my point and the difference. And this happens all over South and Central America. Ask the mayas whose ALMO has blood on his hands from.
@@gordoncarino5876 I disagree. I mean, yeah, those things are curable, if you know how to think properly. But you have to know how to think _properly_ and you have to be taught that, bc few ppl can figure it out on their own. And American schools stopped teaching most critical thinking skills decades ago (I blame the giant sucking sound known as H. Ross Perot). So very few Americans today know how to think properly, so most of them remain stupid, or ignorant. And they don't even know that they should know better, nor do they care. Which is, ofc, exactly how the ruling elites like it to be.
`I too have heard from the opposition that voting went relatively smoothly. What went wrong was the vote counting by Maduro's CNE and the absence of any details of the vote counting. My guess: Venezuelans will never see that, except for what the opposition party legally collected and published.
I don't know how many people understand that the sanctions are illegal. Legal sanctions have to go through the UN and get Security Council approval I believe. I'm not sure what other methods (if any) there are that make sanctions ok/legitimate under international law.
I really enjoy this channel’s work exposing dirty cops and police brutality. And then they bend over backwards to defend authoritarian dictators. Make it make sense.
Yeah I'm having a hard time too, the "reporting" in this segment has blatant lies about what information the Venezuelan government has released. Skips that they made an amateur mistake with their percentage and ended up releasing an improbably round number. Then act like the Supreme Court is in an independent arbitrator, not packed by the government like 4 years ago. I had to turn it off when the one idiot mentioned "invasion" seriously the US hasn't even stopped buying the oil, the people here are frauds.
What kind of Authoritarian dictators would you like the Real News Network to defend, the Fascist Right wing creating violence, Maria Machado and the opposition has been funded by the US State Department, since 2002, America wants the election results to produce the outcome that it has in Syria, to pump and steal it's oil and not pay for it. You still living in the time of Imperial Colonialism.
@@patrickbuchler686 yeah that's not how this works and also not the claim! The Chavistas Government has the complete information and refuses to release the data! The data that we have had released either shows them losing or is mathematically improbable! This also ignores that they have repressed state media and stacked the courts!
@@Chazzmatazz same! I even tried giving it a chance but it was all hyperbolic bs and made up apologetics! I don't consume "mass media" literally I only get my information from independent sources and pay for it. If anything my sources skew socialist and even communist but this destroys our credibility!
Exon. Was there for the exploitation of your oil for his own interets like they do every where not for the people or government of the owner of the country.
Why you want to know did this happen was because Chavez wanted a bigger cut of the oil profits. 80% of oil proceeds going to Chavez drove oil companies out of the country. Exon bult the refineries before Chavez and Chavez wanted it all. Greed is the answers here.
Chavez wanted it to benefit the People, but US sanctions prevents this from happening. US wants it for US Corporations profiteering, so yes - US greed is the reason behind.
Well said Mr. President we need to start working together. If we love our family we would want a great future for them. With progress we will have changes. Some times you have to be uncomfortable to get comfortable. Imagine if all able - bodied citizens start cleaning their surroundings what a different mind set we will have and a safe place to dwell . If you have stall, a table where you sell your food, clothes etc. when you start making a profit. Paint it upgrade it so you will attract more business. Stop tossing your garbage , feces, urine in the drains, rivers , trenches. We need to stay healthy. Roaches, rats spread diseases.
Venezuela, home to the world’s largest oil reserves, is a case study in the perils of becoming a petrostate. Since it was discovered in the country in the 1920s, oil has taken Venezuela on an exhilarating but dangerous boom-and-bust ride that offers lessons for other resource-rich states. Decades of poor governance have driven what was once one of Latin America’s most prosperous countries to economic and political ruin.
@@gregmark1688 I'm not ignoring it there's just no proof that's happening that I've seen. I'm the Google Chrome research wizard and for event history and facts in writing. People making comments on a subject without proof proves nothing. Disinformation Misinformation lies just make me want to research more. Before Chavez the United States companies and Venezuela worked together. Then came socialism corruption in the government and the people being driven down. The government took control of all businesses even the Venezuelan buisnesses .Much more going on in Venezuela than we could ever explain on here but you should keep looking.
I'm an American learning about communist theory and history. I'm sick of our oligarchs and the corrupt politicians of the USA. Russia and China care about working class people. The US government is the bad guy of the world today.
Good thing you are unbiased and objective regarding the events of the Venezuelan election, the practicing of democracy in Venezuela. And of course your ideal democracies of socialism/communism gave their rapid approval and congratulations to Maduro's win. None of them think democracy is important. Social/economic ideology is much more important, whether the people want it or not.
I am not as big a hater of Russia as it is not communist but China literally locks up a million of it's minorities and forces them to work and you are on about worker's rights? Bruh! Taiwan had free Trade-Unions before China.
![Morning Joe [6AM] 9/10/2024 | 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 BREAKING NEWS Today September 10, 2024](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wQ3kh9i5vTU/mqdefault.jpg)
You need to give these people a cash advance to buy themselves a quality microphone to take them out of the echo chamber!
You read all imperialist rags, and view imperialist media (exclusively) I'm sure!
that's your biggest concern? ... entitlement is stunning... it's called a pop filter muppet.
If I remember correctly, some other important nation has an election coming up in a month or two.
This is just a rehearsal for what we can expect in November.
You could be right I'm not ruling it out because the Democrats imported 7 million people and are gonna try to get their votes counted even though the laws say no. Could we see riots in the streets? it's highly possible.
Kick the CIA OUT...
Thank you for this very informative discussion!
So if Madura won why cant he sho proof
Corina has not been able either
What kind of proof would convince you? Remind me again, How Many International Observers monitored the Ongping Election and Agree With the Result?
@@ningacuqui😂 because they only have access to maybe 80% of the information and that 80% doesn't show Madura winning!
You are wrong. The U.S. statement was they have full proof that the election was rigged. So then show it already. When accusing it is you who have the burden of proof in law not the other way around.@@LiverpoolReject
@@HELLBENTLEGION-jp6cx You are wrong. They have the receipts from 80+% of polling places posted online. Even if Madura won 100% of the remaining polling places he couldn't overtake the lead of the opposition.
ratioed
A whole lot of talking but not a whole lot of showing the tallies or any prove. A picture is worth 1 million words so no matter how much you speak unless you show any proof its just a fucking lie. It's ts that simple
Facts💯
Thanks for having international observers on! I've been flabbergasted by the lies.
Yeah, but the opposition got the most votes by over a 30% margin. The opposition can backup their claims with verifiable data. The Regime ask us to just believe them when they say they won. They say "you must believe in the unseen same as your religion ask you to believe". Apparently the Regime holds themselves in pretty high esteem. Unfortunately that's not an opinion widely held by the electorate.
The post-poll survey that is credited with that claim is supposed to be run by the US think tanks, who don’t exactly have the history of reporting the reality. Instead they make up the reality that they would like us to believe. Maduro is not popular among the people there yes, but even among Madura detractors, they do not by default support Machado and many say they and their family voted for Madura because to avoid Machado. It’s like if Dems won despite their genocide and being disliked because of the genocide; if they won it wouldn’t be because people like them but because people dislike Trump more.
Last I heard the opposition had also failed to disclose the "proof" they claimed to have that Maduro lost. Has this changed in the last few days? Have Maduro's government or the opposition released any of the evidence they both claim to have? Because until either side makes the evidence available, all this debate about who's right is pointless.
@@mdhamerly You've got it backwards, the opposition published the election data publicly on a website days after the election (you can easily find the website and view the tally sheets). The Maduro regime first claimed it had been hacked and couldn't release the data but somehow just knew they won and based on that alone certified Maduro President Elect. The Regime then asked their compliant Supreme Court to "investigate" thereby blocking any release of data for 15 days. They have compelled all opposition parties to turn over to them any data they may have, I'll give you one guess why.
@@mdhamerly Wrong, they showed copies of the tally sheets. The establishment didn't.
It may help to understand what’s happening in Venezuela, by understanding how the global economy works. Why is the US involved? That may have something to do with debt. Debt is GDP, debt is power. Debt will make dignified living impossible.
“Real News Network” loses all credibility with their coverage of Venezuela. Nobody wants Maduro anymore.
Nobody wants Kier Starmer aka kid Starver but we are stuck with him for 5 long years.
Maduro won the election cry all you want cry harder louder!🤖
@@therealrobertbirchallThere is no dispute regarding that he won but that the electoral system has him at so many seats. Not the same thing.
The ignorance is free. This is not about the right or the left. It is about what is right and what is wrong. It is a shame that you invite to your program a reporter that is clearly a Maduro supporter. You cannot analyze this election just in the day of the event. You have to see the campaigns for both parties one that had to take by hundreds of buses people, mainly employees from the public service from one city to another, because they didn’t have people, and the other party where hundreds of thousands of people assisted willingly and spontaneously to see Maria Corina and Edmumdo. The day of the election those million of people went out to vote and defeated the current illegitimate President. Last election, the Company that made the voting machines, Smartmatic confirmed that the information reported by the electoral authority did not match what was reported by the machines. This election the Carter Center who for years has approved the integrity of the elections in Venezuela, this week reported that that the reports given by the electoral college were not accurate, and reported that the data confirms that Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia is the new president elect of Venezuela. Even if you may don’t like it, Nicolas Maduro was defeated and have to go
So the last five coups were fake. But this one, this one is real.... Like im not entirely convinced the election wasn't stolen. Waiting on more evidence. But if you can't at least have major questions with the US fingerprints all over it again. You support the empire's coup regime more then you stand for democracy
Why leftists assume that just because your anti west you are pro indigenous and human rights? How come no one asks any indigenous community what they think about Maduro or why leftist don't talk about Maduros extractivist practices that endanger indigenous communities? The Bolivarian revolution is no different then the US revolution against the British empire... both are Criollos that care less and do not represent any indigenous people and often use them as political pawns. Both fought for who gets the right to exploit the land... and here again all you are debating is who gets to exploit the land and commit further violence against indigenous communities. Pretty shameful! and misguided dialogs you people have on this platform.
@@mosca4380 yes and in this video they start up lie! Like 2 seconds of double checking and you can see not even the State media is making claims this bold!
You went from Marxism to Socialism under a dictator Chavez. It took Chavez 3 coop attempts to overthrow the ruling regime. He did make strides to improve his people's lives but it turned into a power struggle and his death. Maduro is his replacement and the people have done nothing but suffer.
@@jeffashcraft2388 YES!
Rightists really have a good history with indigenous people!
@@ResistEvolve criollos left and right dont care about indigenous people, at least the right does not hide their racist intentions while the left loves to use and appropriating indigenous identity while being outright racist towards these first nation communities. That is my point and the difference. And this happens all over South and Central America. Ask the mayas whose ALMO has blood on his hands from.
What kind of alternate reality do you live in? . You went where they wanted you to go and only saw what they wanted you to see.
And you know SO much more about it because you didn't go there at all.
Stupidity is curable, and so is ignorance.
@@gordoncarino5876 I disagree. I mean, yeah, those things are curable, if you know how to think properly. But you have to know how to think _properly_ and you have to be taught that, bc few ppl can figure it out on their own. And American schools stopped teaching most critical thinking skills decades ago (I blame the giant sucking sound known as H. Ross Perot). So very few Americans today know how to think properly, so most of them remain stupid, or ignorant. And they don't even know that they should know better, nor do they care.
Which is, ofc, exactly how the ruling elites like it to be.
`I too have heard from the opposition that voting went relatively smoothly. What went wrong was the vote counting by Maduro's CNE and the absence of any details of the vote counting. My guess: Venezuelans will never see that, except for what the opposition party legally collected and published.
@@gregmark1688 but you were🤔
Wow, this channel is just a mouthpiece for Maduro.
Is it wrong though?
@@mdhamerly Yes. Where are the actas? Did CNE lose them down the sofa?
Brazil and Mexico will decide the winner.
What kind of disinformation bs is this ..bs
Nope it's the truth.🤖
"Real news" takes an L for this garbage lie.
Chris Hedges
#VIVAVENEZUELA #VIVAMADURO
#LONGLIVERESISTANCE
Excellent video. Will share on the socials... 😎
I don't know how many people understand that the sanctions are illegal. Legal sanctions have to go through the UN and get Security Council approval I believe. I'm not sure what other methods (if any) there are that make sanctions ok/legitimate under international law.
"Fuck you, U$A! ... Why won't you trade with me?!!1"
I really enjoy this channel’s work exposing dirty cops and police brutality. And then they bend over backwards to defend authoritarian dictators. Make it make sense.
Yeah I'm having a hard time too, the "reporting" in this segment has blatant lies about what information the Venezuelan government has released. Skips that they made an amateur mistake with their percentage and ended up releasing an improbably round number. Then act like the Supreme Court is in an independent arbitrator, not packed by the government like 4 years ago. I had to turn it off when the one idiot mentioned "invasion" seriously the US hasn't even stopped buying the oil, the people here are frauds.
Do they ? Tell me what is the proof that the chavistas lost?
What kind of Authoritarian dictators would you like the Real News Network to defend, the Fascist Right wing creating violence, Maria Machado and the opposition has been funded by the US State Department, since 2002, America wants the election results to produce the outcome that it has in Syria, to pump and steal it's oil and not pay for it. You still living in the time of Imperial Colonialism.
@@patrickbuchler686 yeah that's not how this works and also not the claim! The Chavistas Government has the complete information and refuses to release the data! The data that we have had released either shows them losing or is mathematically improbable! This also ignores that they have repressed state media and stacked the courts!
@@patrickbuchler686 open your eyes and you will see
open your eyes
Unsubscribed.
@@Chazzmatazz same! I even tried giving it a chance but it was all hyperbolic bs and made up apologetics! I don't consume "mass media" literally I only get my information from independent sources and pay for it. If anything my sources skew socialist and even communist but this destroys our credibility!
Any foreigners opposed to Maduro wouldn't be safe to watch elections in Venezuela.
But the questions that everyone wants answers for, not even mentioned…
@@davidcruz8057 it's like this is just government propaganda!
Facts 💯
You are insane
Exon. Was there for the exploitation of your oil for his own interets like they do every where not for the people or government of the owner of the country.
@@fatmanour4006 so the current contract that maduro has with chevron is different? Please explain
Why you want to know did this happen was because Chavez wanted a bigger cut of the oil profits. 80% of oil proceeds going to Chavez drove oil companies out of the country. Exon bult the refineries before Chavez and Chavez wanted it all. Greed is the answers here.
Chavez wanted it to benefit the People, but US sanctions prevents this from happening. US wants it for US Corporations profiteering, so yes - US greed is the reason behind.
I think you're giving Maduro too much credit, he's just really dumb. He was used by Chavez b/c his stupidity prevented him of overthrowing Chavez
@@far-middle so kill him?
Is this click bate or do they really think Nicolas El Taco Madura won?
😂😂😂
Well said Mr. President we need to start working together. If we love our family we would want a great future for them. With progress we will have changes. Some times you have to be uncomfortable to get comfortable. Imagine if all able - bodied citizens start cleaning their surroundings what a different mind set we will have and a safe place to dwell . If you have stall, a table where you sell your food, clothes etc. when you start making a profit. Paint it upgrade it so you will attract more business. Stop tossing your garbage , feces, urine in the drains, rivers , trenches. We need to stay healthy. Roaches, rats spread diseases.
Venezuela, home to the world’s largest oil reserves, is a case study in the perils of becoming a petrostate. Since it was discovered in the country in the 1920s, oil has taken Venezuela on an exhilarating but dangerous boom-and-bust ride that offers lessons for other resource-rich states. Decades of poor governance have driven what was once one of Latin America’s most prosperous countries to economic and political ruin.
Your "explanation" completely ignores the intense interference of capitalist nations, primarily the US.
@@gregmark1688 I'm not ignoring it there's just no proof that's happening that I've seen. I'm the Google Chrome research wizard and for event history and facts in writing. People making comments on a subject without proof proves nothing. Disinformation Misinformation lies just make me want to research more. Before Chavez the United States companies and Venezuela worked together. Then came socialism corruption in the government and the people being driven down. The government took control of all businesses even the Venezuelan buisnesses .Much more going on in Venezuela than we could ever explain on here but you should keep looking.
yeah dude totally
First
I'm an American learning about communist theory and history. I'm sick of our oligarchs and the corrupt politicians of the USA. Russia and China care about working class people. The US government is the bad guy of the world today.
@@Ziaoe Bless your heart.
Good thing you are unbiased and objective regarding the events of the Venezuelan election, the practicing of democracy in Venezuela. And of course your ideal democracies of socialism/communism gave their rapid approval and congratulations to Maduro's win. None of them think democracy is important. Social/economic ideology is much more important, whether the people want it or not.
I am not as big a hater of Russia as it is not communist but China literally locks up a million of it's minorities and forces them to work and you are on about worker's rights? Bruh! Taiwan had free Trade-Unions before China.
This woman can very easily fall in the hands of a cult.