SCIENTIFIC Reasons behind GOTRAS ‼️
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- In Nepal, for generations, ancient wisdom has guided marriage decisions through the concept of Gotra (#Gotra). But in today's modern world, does Gotra still hold significance?
This video delves deep into the age-old beliefs surrounding Gotra in Hindu marriages (#HinduMarriage #HinduTradition). We'll explore the traditional perspective and uncover the science behind this practice (#Genetics #MarriageCompatibility).
Is Gotra a way to ensure genetic compatibility? Join us as we weigh the cultural significance against scientific considerations to answer the question: Does Gotra Really Matter?
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Presenter: Aayush Pokhrel
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Thank you for the sweet words
Yeah he ll be no. One one day
@@LONGSTORYshort18 gotr ta matr barahmin le matr follow garx re 😂😂 i am atheist but i am don't accept any risk ...our gotar is more than popular Kasyap the Rishi Kasyap famaliya ❤...
@@LONGSTORYshort18 sabai bhanda badhi intercast marriage barahmin nai ho ta😂😂 pasuram barahmin by karm and there wife is daughter of xetrya & King....in great past history and more than barahmin marriage with xetrya girl & tribal community... .
gotar change garne ak apkhand nai thewo aab China ko scientist le yew kaam scientific tarika bata garna sakx 😁😁
This channel is seriously very underrated. Thanks for making such informative videos.
Keep pushing brother, you'll be among the top content creators of Nepal in no time.
नमस्कार !! यहाँ केहि अपूर्ण तथा केहि गलत जानकारी फैलिन गयो जस्तो लाग्यो मलाइ । गोत्र (clan) को अवधारणाले मात्र आनुवंशिक भिन्नता वा दुई व्यक्तिहरू बीचको पुस्ताको अन्तरलाइ निर्धारण गर्दैन। फरक-फरक गोत्रभित्र विवाह गरेर मात्रै सधै आनुवंशिक विकारको(Genetic disorder) प्रसारबाट बच्न सकिन्छ भन्ने चाहि हुदैन । कहिलेकाहीँ, निश्चित गोत्रहरू बीचको निरन्तर विवाहको सिलसिलाले ले वास्तवमा पुस्ताको अन्तरलाई नजिक पारेको पनि हुन सक्छ र यसले आनुवंशिक विविधता कम गर्न सक्छ र पूर्णतया फरक गोत्रका व्यक्तिहरू बीच पनि कहिले काही आनुवंशिक रोग निम्त्याउने गरी एकदमै थोरै मात्र पुस्तान्तर हुन पनि सक्छ। तसर्थ, आनुवंशिक विकारहरू रोक्नको लागि आफ्नो गोत्र बाहिर मात्र विवाह गर्नु वैज्ञानिक रूपमा ग्यारेन्टी दिने अभ्यास भने होइन।
सबैभन्दा राम्रो दृष्टिकोण भनेको कम्तीमा सात पुस्ता भन्दा धेरै अन्तर सुनिश्चित गरेर विभिन्न जाति र भौगोलिक क्षेत्रका व्यक्तिहरूसँग विवाह गर्नु हो जसले आनुवंशिक विविधतालाई बढावा दिन र आनुवंशिक विकारहरूको जोखिम कम गर्न सक्छ।
And most importantly, the statement you made saying "the mother has no contribution to the transfer of traits to the offspring just because females contain only X-chromosomes and not Y" is completely wrong. There are hundreds of traits carried by the 22 pairs of autosomes (non-sex chromosomes) in addition to the sex chromosomes (X and Y). The Y chromosome primarily carries genes related to male reproductive health and male characteristic development, affecting only male offspring. For example, eye color is not determined by the Y chromosome but by chromosome 15. Furthermore, your claim that hair color is not transferred from the mother, or that the mother has zero contribution, is incorrect. Hair color is determined by multiple genes on different chromosomes, including the X chromosome, which is inherited from the mother. Therefore, the mother significantly contributes to the hair color of her offspring, as both sons and daughters inherit an X chromosome from the mother, while sons inherit their sole X chromosome from the mother. Additionally, mitochondrial DNA is always transferred from the mother and never from the father.
Therefore, I urge you not to spread misinformation in the name of science, especially when relating religion and tradition to science. Speaking with extra confidence does not turn incorrect information into fact. Ensure you conduct thorough research, including reading numerous credible articles and scientific papers.
Before wrapping up, I want to add one more thing. The topic of inter-clan marriage is not as important or serious and is not a foolproof practice for genetic health. In contrast, the issue of first-cousin marriage is a much more serious matter, prevalent in Nepali communities such as the Gurung, Magar, and Tamang, where people marry the son or daughter of their paternal aunt (fupu) or maternal uncle (mama). This practice is a more relevant and critical topic in the context of genetic disorders and the transmission of genetic diseases.
Who thinks the love story is of himself 😂
Mera hai bhai😂😂
I believe that this is his true story😅
म उच्च जातको बाहुन भएकोमा गर्व गर्छु।
Lol@@srzsrz2049
@@srzsrz2049 hora k ho name?
Ancestral lineage Y chromosome ley matra carry garcha? ??Where did you get that information from? Teso bhaye ta ama chori jasto dekhnai nahune Y chromosome nai hudaina chori ma, chori buwa jasto dekhnai bhayena y chromosome nai hudaina female ma . Ani females haru ta transparent huna parne y chromosome nabhaye pachi hair color, eye color nai nahune bhayo.
I was thinking the same 😂
We cannot avoid paternal as well as maternal lineage because we're connected, sharing a common gene pool.
But, at least we can avoid paternal lineage reducing the risk of genetic anomalies to 50% if we avoid marrying within same gotra or surname.
But, maternal lineage is difficult to trace for more than 5-7 generations as surnames and gotra vary, thus potential maternal lineage above 7 generations are accepted.
At least the risk of genetic defects is avoided by more than 50% if paternal lineage is completely avoided, and the material lineage is avoid for at least 5-7 generations.
4:43 bro didn’t even hesitate 😂
yas ma ke ho ta hesisiatate kas lai bhane 😂😂 ke tapai apni abarahimic ho ta tension na Linus 😂😂 kin ki family S*x is normal'... check all abarahimic book official reference
I just loved how he connected his unfinished story form the beginning at the end.😂
I am not sure how factual your arguments are, first The concept of gotras, and Rishis, Isn't it flawed, I don't think only 7 gotras are enough to explain the variability of Hindu genes, also what is the evidence that backs the assumption-Same gotras belongs to similar genomes, even if we accept the seven gotras, I think it is not good source to track our genes, In history There may have many clashes, mutations and changes, Yes the offspring with similar genes
is mostly defective, or has many mutations, but for that even at 2nd degree relative the chance that something happens is 5%, so if we are seeing a such a huge group I mean gotras, it is very less likely that you are close to 2nd degree, The best way to know if someone is suitable for mating is finding if there are any point of intersection in their family tree and how much generation ago was it, as I already said gotras try to do that I mean track the genes but Hinduism is vague, so making choice on behalf of that is plain stupidity,
tracking the family is hard job but is not impossible, like we have that in records (probably),most of us know three generation of our ancestors, also seeing the location and place where you are from or migrated and where she is from and migrated, could also give you good conclusion, but #myopinion if the person you are seeing is not your relative, and no connection between the family is found, I'll say it's pretty safe, same gotras can be considered as a factor I mean it could denote that there is probability of you being related, but it isn't 100%, am I saying it is safe, No, but I can say the risk is very low. BTW I appreciate your video, but it could have been better if you gave sources and research.
thats the reason 7 gotras has expanded to more than 100 gotras now if we consider all Indian sub-continent gotras...
@@sahilajha4179 100 is also not enough(probably) the population of hindus is 1.2 billion, divide that by 100, it give 12 million, or let say a large number, considering the growth rate with the compound % growth, (compound cause the family tree grows exponentially)a family has 6 members and it gives 5 at frist then the rate of change in the fertility rate as -00.2, and since each member has a son that will have son, so the growth is exponintal, how longwill it take to reach 12 million, running this gives initial_population = 6
fertility_rate = 5
rate_of_change = 0.02
minimum_fertility_rate = 2
target_population = 5000000
generation_span = 10
population = initial_population
generation = 0
while population < target_population:
new_members = population * fertility_rate
population += new_members
fertility_rate -= rate_of_change
if fertility_rate < minimum_fertility_rate:
fertility_rate = minimum_fertility_rate
generation += 1
years = generation * generation_span
print(years)
print(population)
it takes 80 years to reach 9 million, and 90 year to reach 50 million, see where am I going, this is very unfair calculation, I know, but see the Time and population, with this numbers + migrations + inbreeding and another factors 100 is too less, sorry if My calculations are wrong, I also sus the Way I did it but I thing that least gives a plain Idea
In Nepal atleast, I can confirm that all people of घृतकौशिक गोत्र share the same paternal ancestor named अनुक्रम द्विवेदी (दुबे) as per modern ancestral research as well as lineage texts (वंशावली). This gotra's history is just ¬600 years old in Nepal. They still share a lot of genes together. So, the risk is not negligible. It is still present. Please try not to promote inbreeding.
nice video brother, nice new concept, informative ,video style keep making content keep growing
Your channel is sure to grow my boy 🎉🤞🙏
Really bro ❤ huge respect to your content and hard work.....i really support to your efforts 👌 😊
i thought you will say these all as nonsense but you just nailed it! kudos!
Very precisely and accurately explained Keep it up ❤
Keep the great work going on
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Ramro jankari
New generation like us needs to know about those type of things thank you so much myan for the video🙏
आफ्नो ज्यान जोखिममा राखेर हामीलाई यस्तो महत्त्वपूर्ण जानकारी दिनुभएकोमा हजुरलाई कोटि कोटि प्रणाम 🙏🙏🙏
Jyan kasari jokhim ma bhayo?👀
My class teacher told us this all factors in explained and we are thankful to him.
Good explanation ❤keep it up bro ..
Content is just awesome 💯
Biological factor ko explanation chai jyadai man paryo.
you gained a subscriber.
Pragati gardai jaau bro...👏👏👏
Loved it brother keep going ❤
Very informative video bro, keep it going. Few things you might like to amend next times
A. Sex chromosomes X and Y do not fuse, they just come together to form babies.
B. Bloodline traits are only carried by Y chromosome is not correct at all. If that was the case then no daughter will inherit character from parents or they pass to offspring. Traits you've mentioned like hair color, eye color, these are determined by autosomal (22 pairs) chromosome other than X/Y
Love this video❤
The way you present💯.
Lots of wrong information brother.
Blood line traits are not only transmitted by Y chromosome. Please provide citation for this information if it is true.
self contradictory points
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New to your channel.. But you've done amazing job! Keep going bro.. Way to go😊
Loved it.
Your fact about maternal gene not being transferred is totally wrong. It's 50%-50%
great brother....
The video is great but the concept of Y chromosome only carrying the ancestral trait is completely incorrect. I hope you would take it positively rest of the video is greatly presented.
Very Interesting and informative 😂❤
thanks brother ma dherai confused tiye gotra barema ke ho gotra bhanera aaja clear vayo .keep going .
Keep going dai❤
Gotra and caste must not to be same🤣🤣
Take it to the unknowns dear CZcams 😂😂. ❤ you gained a subscriber herre
Good content
Ani yo ta gotra sambandhi kura lai manera follow garera jane kura ma bhayo but aba ysto kura follow naagrne country pani ta chha ni testo ma janmeko bachha ma defect aauchha ki aaudaina?
man ma utheko prashna?
Interesting want you to made a vedio regarding gans also
Science haina Pseudoscience failairanu bhako cha tapalie . Scientific evidence Dinus na gotra ko barema . Ani hami pattauchau .
Genetic Compatibility Test should be done before doing Marriage in order to avoid Genetic Disorder issue.😊
Muslim religion ☯️
Crying in the corner 🤗
Another rising star here
There is no direct relationship between the Y chromosome and eye color. Eye color is determined by autosomal (non-sex) chromosomes, and both males and females inherit these autosomal genes. The Y chromosome does not carry genes that influence eye color.
ekdam ramro dai hamlai hamro sir le ni yehi vannu vako ko thiyo
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Righ Ved actually mentions a standard about 10 pushta and 10 kosh distance
Keep going
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Bhai ❤❤
Bro even Mongolians and aryans have same gotra and many people at turned into Hindu many years later ,they aren’t the generation of sapta rishis but still they have gotras . Yeah it may be problematic if you have same surname but if even surname is different then it has higher chance of minimum 8-9 and even more generations difference cause caste system has has a long long history .
Learned something new
4:32 the moment that I laugh
keep it up
thumbnail and video controversy didn't match on this video.
Wrong example, height is the polygenic trait and does not follow Mendelian genetics.
Lovely
You can't reveal your gotra actually 🤦🏻
I want you number 1 in the future. You confidence level and delivery of voice is huge ❣️
Khareni African hera ketaho tension nai hudaina 😎
I just shared your video to Aegon Targaryen >>> He must learn it.
Female bata kunai pani character offspring ma aaudaina vanna mildaina hai vai
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Just landed on your channel and saw your content. Please check facts before using the word "scientific" for whatever thing our ancestors came up with. The hair color is determined by MC1R gene, which is an autosomal gene, so it's not present in any of the sex chromosome. Also, even if it was, the markers for the gene are expressed as an effect of both the sex chromosomes.
The Gotras phenomenon is just to avoid interbreeding, but it doesn't make sense after multiple generations. I know a couple of people and friends who've married into the same gotras but have perfectly fine children.
Light content
ramro kura uthayeu. new generation should know about this(gained 1 sub)
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X and Y chromosomes have nothing to do with this. The genetic disease manifest in genes expect the X and Y chromosomes i.e autosomal genes. Suppose your family line has a faulty gene...the faulty gene usually gets supressed by the normal gene variant...now if your parents had a consanguineous marriage..the probability that you inherit that faulty gene from both of your parents increases. ( Because yr parents belong to same family line). If ur father was of a different family line, the normal gene variant of your father would supress the faulty gene or the recessive gene, in medical terms.
Thus explains many such autosomal recessive disease in countries like Pakistan, where there are hugh consanguineous marriage.
And yes, the entire concept of we, being the descent of Sapta Rishi is not factually proven. Consanguineous marriages resulting in genetic disorder is scientifically proven.
Great video, otherwise. Subscribed.
Y chromosomes को बारेमा हाबा गफ नदेउ, धत्। फॅाडी हान्नू को पनि सिमा हुन्छ नि । x-y chromosome le lineage carry garcha re, उफ्। X chromosome fuses with Y chromosome re! Guff. गोत्र को महत्व सामाजिक र धार्मिक ज्यादा हो। बैज्ञानिक महत्व भनेको नजिकका आफन्तहरू बिच बिबाह नहुनु र अन्य गोत्र संग बिबाह गर्दा जन्मिने सन्तान मा genetic diversity धेरै हुन्छ । जसले गर्दा वंशानुगत रोगहरू कम देखा पर्छन भन्ने हो।
well explained.. !! superb 😍
Imagine how advanced rishis were back then😮
The biggest issue with gotra system is the concept that the maternal genes do not play any role in inbreeding depression, which I can see that you failed to address correctly. I like the way you have selected the topic and presented the content and so, I hope factual mistakes like this will be carefully scrutinized in the future before you post new videos, because when wrong information is presented in such an informative video, it is even more harmful to the educated class.
Brother please go to college, attend lectures, read some books in genetics and may be also some of our history too, not mythological ones.
And then make youtube videos.
There was some truth in ur video but the whole concept of genetics was wrong and lets not go into the debate of ancetral history of Nepal. So, it doesn't make sense at all..
Just for a head start into ur leaning: read about autosomal chromosomes and x linked chromosomes and the inheritance patterns i.e dominant and recessive in different conditions.
Also, don't let someone u love go away just becoz of gotras and fear of genetic conditions, the probability of becoming disable by accident is far more high than being born disabled due to sole genetics but that will not stop you to let your kids go outside, isn't it? It is about being careful, not stupid.
We are same gotra vai 😊
Genetic defects mother ra father dubai ko tarfa bata transfer huna sakxa. Yo video ma tyo kura galat vayena ra?
Ani k aba bihe nai nagarnu
@@DeusEstAmor________137 , bihe nagarnu kasle vaneko xa ra!? Video ma genetics defects father side bata matra inherit hunxa vaneko galat ho matra vanna khojeko. Sakesamma variable gene pool hune gari bihe gareko ramro.
Newar ko lagi ekdamai knowledgeable
which nowadays people say it as the rhesus system of blood group😆
Yo arkai kura ho
3:40 . Yo biasayama kunai pani scientific evidence chaina ra tapaile yesko barema kei pani evidence nai nadiyepachi , tapaiko kura kasari pathauni ?
Tyo tile ma tapaile science lekhnu bhako cha , khai science ?
❤ jaya sanatan❤
HUH BRO LE KATA BATA Y CHROMOSOME LE MATRA GENE CARRY GARXA BANERA PADE CHA
Why are you adding the background music on your videos , its deteriorating your content. The content is good and presentation is also commendable but the addition of background music had made it irrelevant.
The first story was kidney touching 😆😂😂
My liver intestine pancreas all were touched😂😂
अब गोत्र कै कुरा गर्दा र सप्तऋषि ब्रह्मा भगवान सन्तान हुन् र ब्रह्मा भगवानको जन्म विष्णु भगवानको नाभी बाट भएको हो र यस अनुसार हामी सबै विष्णु भगवानका सन्तानहरू हौ।
त्यसैले विवाह हैन ब्रह्मचर्य धर्मको पालना गर्दा उचित होला ।😂😂😂
channel down bhayexa ta sathi
Tyesto ho vaney kina ama ko traits pani bachha ma auxa? Like red haired mother, ra black haired father ko baccha red haired kasari hunxa?
Like he said strong genes le dominate garxa ani weak lai replace garxa, overall average ma women ko hudaina average ma bhaneko ho, there are exceptions, mutations bhanne ni sunekai holau, it's explainable
Break up ko reason balla bhete, thanks bro…
Same gotra brother 😂😂
नमस्कार !! यहाँ केहि अपूर्ण तथा केहि गलत जानकारी फैलिन गयो जस्तो लाग्यो मलाइ । गोत्र (clan) को अवधारणाले मात्र आनुवंशिक भिन्नता वा दुई व्यक्तिहरू बीचको पुस्ताको अन्तरलाइ निर्धारण गर्दैन। फरक-फरक गोत्रभित्र विवाह गरेर मात्रै सधै आनुवंशिक विकारको(Genetic disorder) प्रसारबाट बच्न सकिन्छ भन्ने चाहि हुदैन । कहिलेकाहीँ, निश्चित गोत्रहरू बीचको निरन्तर विवाहको सिलसिलाले ले वास्तवमा पुस्ताको अन्तरलाई नजिक पारेको पनि हुन सक्छ र यसले आनुवंशिक विविधता कम गर्न सक्छ र पूर्णतया फरक गोत्रका व्यक्तिहरू बीच पनि कहिले काही आनुवंशिक रोग निम्त्याउने गरी एकदमै थोरै मात्र पुस्तान्तर हुन पनि सक्छ। तसर्थ, आनुवंशिक विकारहरू रोक्नको लागि आफ्नो गोत्र बाहिर मात्र विवाह गर्नु वैज्ञानिक रूपमा ग्यारेन्टी दिने अभ्यास भने होइन।
सबैभन्दा राम्रो दृष्टिकोण भनेको कम्तीमा सात पुस्ता भन्दा धेरै अन्तर सुनिश्चित गरेर विभिन्न जाति र भौगोलिक क्षेत्रका व्यक्तिहरूसँग विवाह गर्नु हो जसले आनुवंशिक विविधतालाई बढावा दिन र आनुवंशिक विकारहरूको जोखिम कम गर्न सक्छ।
And most importantly, the statement you made saying "the mother has no contribution to the transfer of traits to the offspring just because females contain only X-chromosomes and not Y" is completely wrong. There are hundreds of traits carried by the 22 pairs of autosomes (non-sex chromosomes) in addition to the sex chromosomes (X and Y). The Y chromosome primarily carries genes related to male reproductive health and male characteristic development, affecting only male offspring. For example, eye color is not determined by the Y chromosome but by chromosome 15. Furthermore, your claim that hair color is not transferred from the mother, or that the mother has zero contribution, is incorrect. Hair color is determined by multiple genes on different chromosomes, including the X chromosome, which is inherited from the mother. Therefore, the mother significantly contributes to the hair color of her offspring, as both sons and daughters inherit an X chromosome from the mother, while sons inherit their sole X chromosome from the mother. Additionally, mitochondrial DNA is always transferred from the mother and never from the father.
Therefore, I urge you not to spread misinformation in the name of science, especially when relating religion and tradition to science. Speaking with extra confidence does not turn incorrect information into fact. Ensure you conduct thorough research, including reading numerous credible articles and scientific papers.
Before wrapping up, I want to add one more thing. The topic of inter-clan marriage is not as important or serious and is not a foolproof practice for genetic health. In contrast, the issue of first-cousin marriage is a much more serious matter, prevalent in Nepali communities such as the Gurung, Magar, and Tamang, where people marry the son or daughter of their paternal aunt (fupu) or maternal uncle (mama). This practice is a more relevant and critical topic in the context of genetic disorders and the transmission of genetic diseases.
I don't believe in casteism but i believe in gotra
म उच्च जातको बाहुन भएकोमा गर्व गर्छु।
Gotra k hone tmro ?
Must ask question
If Gotra important hunxa bhane mero mummy ko Maiti ko Gotra ko kti pani ta bihe garna napaune hola ni bhanne sochthe ,
Thanks for the Clarification on that❤
Mom ko lay farak pardaina Ladies carry only x chromosome only but Male carry XY tei bhara kt manxe ko maa teti farak pardaina.
Interesting but people of different gotras have been marrying for thousands of years. So, I don't buy into the theory that people of one gotra will have the same kind of defect. It was a societal construct that perhaps made people safer. If 100 years ago, someone migrated to another village and found people of the same gotra, then they must have felt relieved thinking someone knew their caste, culture, etc. In the past Hinduism was known as a culture which embraced different ideas but now we are taking those ideas as if they were written in stone and it's sad to see it.
Love garnu vanda aagadi गोत्र sodnu parnya vayo aba vanya paxi 😂❤
Vai le vane jaso defect same gotra pardaina farak gotra ma ni huna sakxa ....nepali samaj ma farak gotra kai vaye ni manxe 4,5 generation vitra ko nata ma parxa vane tha hunxa, ani 4,5 generation agadi dekhi ko disorder persist vako manxeharuko ek arka sanga bihe vayera disorder aaunu ko vanda besi chance ta farak gotra kai koi 2 manxe ko bihe vayera tya kei karanle gene disorder aaune chance nikai besi hunxa, for eg: Rh- girl ra Rh+ boy ko first child Rh+ vayo vane second child ma disorder hune chance nikai nai besi hunxa, aru ABO incompatibility , kell antigen incompatibility , dherai kura huncan ...WHAT I MEAN IS, GOTRA KO ARU KEI significance HOLA, I DONT DOUBT THAT, TARA YO VIDEO MA VANE JASO CHAI MALAI CHAI LAGENA PERSONALLY
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Female chromosomes also have the same importance as male
Traits are equally transferred
Have you ever noticed the proportion of differently abled children in Muslim community and the rest of the world?
Maw ani mero girlfriend ko gotra same xaw aba how do i know that is it safe or not to get married?🙄
100% safe bro. 5k years pahile ko gotra ko kaam chhaina. Mero kaakaa le garyaa chhan same gotra bihe. Bhaai full scholarship maa M.E. garne brilliant niskyo.
🚫I smell misinformation. Could you provide references?
Relatable 😂
Mongolian me watching it curiously 😂
Mongolian ko magar community ma cousin marriage allow xa haina?