This PLAT Tank Always Blames His Team... So We Made Him Prove Himself (In a MASTERS Lobby!)
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- čas přidán 24. 12. 2023
- What happens when you put a Platinum Tank in a Masters lobby in Overwatch 2 (OW2)? Can they hold their weight and get out of elo hell? 🤔
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overwatch 2 but with proximity voice chat so you can hear the other teams reactions to you missing your pulse bombs
best comment here.
Honestly, this dude played waaaayyyy better than I was expecting. The overconfident tank reveal at the end was probably his biggest slip-up, though; kinda spelled doom for the team lol
Otherwise, good stuff 😊
I mean his most played hero on his profile was doom, and his doom is absolutely terrible. It's not really suprising.
AHHH IM RAIDEN/BQUI 😭 THIS WAS SO SICK THANKS FOR HAVING ME! 12:50
I was the tank Elo hell ty for playing With me❤
@@aliaskarrahimi7367loved playing with you man you were awesome🚨🤲🏽 let’s run it back some time
@@bqui_ much love man you hyped me up when we were playing Ty Ty ❤️❤️❤️
so wholesome T-T
RAIDEN LET'S RUN SOME GAMES BRO
maybe he's nervous, but honestly, he plays pretty normal for plat. It also feels like he was playing against gold in the first game.
copium overdose
@@user-um2sj7ur6k what part of that was copium? He plays like a plat
@@Hietakissa factually wrong tbh
jay said he definitely wasn’t plat
@@Hietakissahe’s trolling just don’t respond
Jay, you should put 5 people who think they're Masters vs 5 Master's
5:22 the ragdoll and the robot kicking him 😂😂
He plays pretty well overall, a problem he has is assessing threats before reacting to them, like when he sees a rein fire strike at 18:14 he shields it automatically, and at 21:18 the sigma was completely cut off from his team and instead of ulting and killing the sigma, winning the team fight he got distracted by the shield like a kid who had keys shaken in front of him, essentially wasting the hanzo ult opportunity and costing the round. Overall I think he’s better than a plat, and probably better than me
Ok
sig wouldnt have died ur not him
I like these videos, mostly because it does offer the opportunity to highlight your problems more, in a plat game its harder for him to see what he does wrong when everyone else is equally making mistakes, so when you feel like you make the least mistakes then its easier to say you feel like you deserve a higher rank. His ability usage, positioning, decision making and awareness in the game is his weak points. His Comms and hero pool are his strengths
Hog - Wasting hooks (Maybe ping hurt a lot for them) or hooking orisas into better positionings, dropping trap somewhere but not actively trying to hook people into it or use it in a hook combo.
Rammatra - Doesn't block a lot or consider extensions on nemesis form as well. He'll use nemesis form then panic use ult a second after which drops his nemesis form time lower if anything isn't in his range (dva jumping off end of attack for example although this time is fine considering people are jumping into him to stall payload) and throws his slow without thinking about whether its going to be useful or not.
Zarya - His comms are good for his zarya bubbles and he does actively think about his teammates but I doubt many of his teammates in plat would ask for them so its good that he looks for those opportunities but will have to consider at times being more selfish with them, I would see he throws both shields on people getting slightly tapped near their spawn then has no bubbles to push in with.
Doom he played in last fight scenarios to get back quicker and Rein was bashed in and swapped off early to really judge what he was doing with those heros.
Positioning - When someone says my teammates hold me back, the first thing you look to see is how well they position. And in most cases he does remember not to overextend and feed, and run back to objective but in the most crucial moments like that last fight for example, playing too forward on other side of statue when you see an orisa coming at you is flat out suicide and it was a miracle how he lived it. Always consider where your team is set up and fall back to them or the objective.
Decision Making - He reminds me of an off tank in OW1, great assister and peeler, good comms but no initiative of his own at times and relies on others to call the shot and the plays. Sadly the tank role in ow 2 forces the tank player to be more assertive and decide quicker on the fly. Staying on point while bastion is being killed by sigma while he can see the enemy team pushing in and wants to push but cant decide what to do is how opportunities are wasted or given to the other team. Thankfully then it didn't go too bad but these mistakes is what will get him punished in higher ranks.
Awareness - Plays against mei all game in kings row and still runs in past those walls in Point A without thinking of trying to bait the wall first. Going in when half of his team are dead, leaks his hero on defence after a 3:3 scenario, forgets about some of his abilities (trap, blocking), where his team is playing, or if people are coming behind him from spawn etc
Tldr - He needs to try think about his abilities more to make better use of them, rather than just using it off cd for the sake of it. Needs to consider where he's playing and his team so he knows where to fall back to. Needs to remember or read kill feed and bait things out of the enemy and be more assertive on tank. He's good and will climb easy once he tidies up these mistakes. Apology for essay but finishing dinner so writing a lot for entertainment.
Merry Christmas Everyone!!
I was Bronze S25 of OW1. Having climbed from bronze to GM on several accounts learning multiple tanks…here’s my advice: master one or two tanks and learn as much as you can about outplaying with strategy over character selection. Don’t even bother with voice chat until Master 3, because people don’t really know what they’re talking about until you get to mid-high masters. Don’t tilt first fight or first round, be patient and turn off match chat and team chat if it gets under your skin. Never flame anyone.
That’s actually good tips
He needs to relax on his space bar, half the time he moves he is just jumping for no reason
this guy was really good with his hog primary fire. if he hit about a 1/4 more of his hooks this guy would CLIMB
I would suggest having the same type of mode for first game and second game (when change team), like start with push, the other one is also push but on different map, so we can properly see if the person really do well properly or not
Or maybe just because I've been in the lab for so long that my brain thinking of the experiment rules stuff 😂
Merry Christmas, Jay3! 🎄🎁
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merry chistmas Jay love you big dawg
I was so invested in this one dude plays amazing
bro didn't care about Zarya bubbles at all lmao
Would not have made it that far on 1st point without broken Malga.
This was so fun to play in thank u 😂🙏
Merry Christmas 🎄
Ik immediately it was a team diff just from the 1st 10min
He fits right with them.
Plat's teammates from the first game played so much better (and better heroes) than the enemy team.
Huge take but, plat to masters is relatively the same in OW2 in OW1 there was a huuuge difference between the ranks but not so much anymore
If this guy jumps for no reason one more time i stg lol
The genji was really cool, would like to see more of him
thank you man! I hope I can feature in another video soon, I do twitch if you'd like to see me on my own tho, merry christmas!
@@bqui_ I hope you can too! Unfortunately I’m not on twitch because of the sheer amount of ads, but if you uploaded videos here I’d give them a watch I’d reckon. Merry Christmas to you too!
@@Gunnar754 ah I get you, well I do multi streams so I’m live on YT and Twitch! if you ever find free time then I’d love for u to join and chat!
yeah it was realy entertaining watching u and the tank talk , mery xmas !@@bqui_
As a grandmaster tank I think I deserve bronze. Why won't ow2 put me in bronze games? Matchmaking sucks!!!
satire
The reverse proving would be a hilarious series. GM thinks he's Diamond and such
@@Shift.Ratchetlike me on dps, i genuinely don't know why im plat 1 when i suck on anything else that's not Tracer/Phara/Echo, and if the enemy is remotely good, i can't do anything
very good tank player
This is probably the only dude in elo hell
You ever have those insane and ass games? The plat is having a good day while the d/m are having bad days by their playstile
I think he should use more hog’s trap to kill and not just throw it praying for someone to step on it
He easily could be diamond level based on this video, but the other thing to consider is that plats usually tilt -- a lot.
Masters players are pretty much plat players that got boosted in recent Overwatch 2 seasons (plat just makes a few more mistakes). Explains why he's performing well.
There are worst masters players who just placed a new account than plats
cope
@simivalleycrew I have nothing to cope about. I'm top 10 🤣
So much cope! I’m guessing your plat (not you @emacliftsalot)
I love the thumbnail
I was Plat 1 tank season 7 I feel like this guy would kick my ass
Im still sceptical about first game, he did get a lot of kills but i noticed supports cared a bit too much to keeping him alive, i have no doubts most dps in masters can be on their own sometimes but im daring to say he got carried there, and in the second game he was too aggro for his healers, i use my pins and voicelines like a madman to compensate i dont have a mike, i didnt see any pins of him regardless of having a Mike and that also helps specially when everyone talks at the same time, but he has good communication overall
A good thing would have been seeing a game with people in his rank to see how he does then putting him in the masters game
Got out of plat in 5 games leveled a rank each game
For a second I thought it was my schoolmate from Japan with the same name etc but then he said he's Canadian so nope, but close lol. 4 days in back from Japan and I already miss it so much ☹
I think I ran into this dude but he was on tracer he was d2 or M5 at the time
He's doing well
Had a very fun time doing this 😄
but girls think OW is borin tho..
I have an addiction @@crazynugget7526
Im around his rank in tank and in all honesty I don't really agree that he deserves a higher rank. First round while they obviously won and rolled for most of the game I honestly just felt like it was a support gap. His supports bailed him out of so much he kept being far too aggressive on mauga and you can really see so many moments where in all honesty he should've been dead.
How should I submit to this?
if this guy is plat, I definitely deserve to be high diamond low masters
All this proves is anyone can climb on mauga cause he’s that brain dead
Are you top 500?
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@@windthugness I'm top 10. Got multiple games tonight against a masters 5 doom OTP that's now gm1. I'm sure he just got better though, despite playing 500 games a season on tank and NEVER being higher than masters 5. Most of the time he was diamond.
Get him outa there
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5 gm vs 5 master but the master are playing only counters to gm heros
He was asking a ps4 user what was better, a decade old console or state of the art 😭
This is like watching a gold plat player honestly
waaaaait i actually think I played with shinigami LOLLL
He played well enough that the enemy team which is a bunch of master had to counter pic a Plat tank. Reverse the rank cause this tank could be master and the enemy team plat.
They are just countering the tank
He's making it work because he's better. Like cyx
He's valid. Definitely deserves it.
Hmmm I haven’t watched it yet but based off of “I switched to pc 3 months ago” is the first red flag. I was top 500 on overwatch 1 Xbox since 2017 and when I switched to pc it doesn’t mean you deserve the same rank it’s a whole different playing field
Notice in the beginning everyone in the game is a level 1 endorsement. Plat-masters is so toxic it’s not even funny
hes ass, first game they were just countering their tank, and hes playing mauga a fundamentally overpowered hero
mauga really isn't overpowered though???
holy, r u for real?@@Hietakissa
@@qwer202082 yes? Everytime someone picks Mauga it ends with them either switching or losing
@@Hietakissa It seems like most players don't play Mauga correctly. If you look at t500 and streamers' opinions, they all agree that Mauga is busted. The prediction that Mauga would be especially strong in low ranks has turned out to be wrong, not because he's harder to play in low ranks, but because he is very easy to punish if he makes a mistake (e.g. charging in). This all seems to be evidenced by more gold players than ever talking down to masters and higher elo players who complain about Mauga being OP, saying that people who complain must be bronze. I find it all pretty amusing actually...
@@loekhabets8698 I'm a masters player myself, and have yet to see a successful Mauga player.
It's also funny how few Mauga players there are on the Top 500 leaderboards for a "busted" hero. It's mostly Hog, Sigma and JQ (with Winston replacing Hog in Asia, for some reason).
There are a total of 5 Mauga players in Top 10 across all regions. With the majority being Sigma (24), Winston (11), JQ(10) and Doom(10)
It’s so annoying when the lower rank players think the key to everything is counterswapping
wadahell is this
honestly, hes good, his reaction time is better than i thought but his game notion is plat, but in my opnion, you cant have much more playing with plat, but still not master, hes maximum diamond
These comments are funny but everyone speaking like rank’s don’t have sub ranks within them, he’s definitely not plat more like low gold
This is a shit comparison if you let him play mauga. It should have been banned from the rip. Mauga is too unbalanced to be able to tell since he's an incredibly easy and the strongest tank too.
Sigma/DVA and hog are better atm. Mauga is easily countered by any kite out burst dmg or high defensive mitigation/plus dmg.
@@emacliftsalotthat’s flat out wrong as proven by how high his win rate is across all tanks. I’ve seen maugas getting pocketed by one support and his self heal 1v1 bastion turret and win. Something that no other tank can do. Sigma is ok but Mauga with kiri/Ana is going to roll a poke comp in most cases.
@BetaNurse68 We are talking about top 500 here.
He barely played mauga at all for the duration of the video
bqui the goat
Haha much love man🤲🏽 Merry Christmas!
No no it's SUPPORT, not healer
He’s def at least diamond. I’d climb so fast outta if this is my tanks played
I think one of his issues may be that he spreads his skills on a large hero pool, which can work somewhat well in a higher rank lobby where being flexible means you can fit in and play more meta counterswap styles - but he also then relies on his allies knowing what they're doing and not feeding their brains out. In lower ranks like low plat, you can't just counterswap to establish yourself as a dominant factor, in reality the opposite can often be the key. Learning one or two heroes extremely well, also how to play them into their counters, will give you an advantage because when the low-rank enemy players try to counterswap against you to gain an advantage since they don't have the playstyle skill to outplay you -then what happens when their counterswap doesn't work cus you are simply so good that you outcounter your counter? Then they are shit out of luck. They can't outplay you by skill, they can't outswap you either. THAT is how you become a dominant force in low rank lobbies where your team is unreliable and you can't just be "a piece in the puzzle".
Also everyone here were playing like a low diamond lobby, idk if it was ping or nerves but nobody really seemed to know what they were doing relative to the supposed rank skill of the lobby. Solder not taking high ground, supports wasting important cooldowns, people not grouping well.. didn't appear like a masters lobby but may just be outside factors messing things. Dude from Japan was chill
Low elo is the exact opposite to high elo. All gm is is 1 tricks typically of meta or high skill cap heros.
You assume way to much of masters players. Diamond and masters is a rank of new account mmr and mercy pocket duo que boosting. There's lots of people there that don't deserve it or were boosted to it. This goes up to gm 4 and 5 too. But the thing is once an account has that mmr they don't drank even if the problem goes 2 and 28
His supports carried him kind of
I think he deserves like diamond 3-1
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He has decent game sense but his ability usage/cooldowns are kind of sus. Like on hog he would just throw his trap and forget about it or on rematra just randomly using his vortex or his shield.
The chatter being like tank players always swap. Try being the one player that has all the pressure to make space while the enemy team always swap to counter you because that all they know how to do. Pisses me off bc everyone always says tank diff and no one ever goes mei for your rein, reaper for the enemy monkey, sombra for the ball, ana for the hog. Supports are good at realizing a tank needs help but dps barely ever try to help tank
Jay3 do you think you would be interested in trying to learn to play piano
merry christmas btw
I dont think he proved himself, he did not blame his teammates
Dude you don’t understand I’m sigma main and when dps and healers don’t give a good team you get hard stuck bronze also because no one has coms in bronze it’s a team diff having a cheeks team h gives a cheeks rank but I’m a dps main bug turned into a sigma main because tank always ass and then dps is ass I’m 13 and should be in gold but by the time I’m 55 ima still be in bronze
He isn’t looking behind him because even on pc he hasn’t unlearned that he isn’t a console player anymore, went through the same thing first few times on pc. GUYS WHEN YOU SWITCH OVER YOU HAVE TO PLAY DIFFERENT THEY ARE NOTTTTTT THE SAME. pc players are more aggressive, they pay attention more yet they tunnel vision and tend to not think about plays, console players tend to only look forward, they’re less aggressive but they’re normally grouped more so their defense is great. In pc try to pick off ppl out of position, on console try to force people out of position so you can pick them off. Console players are scared to be alone, pc players think they thrive alone, know the difference 👌
How do we sign up for these?
On Jay's discord maybe
For ELO Hell and the like, it's done in The Hard Carry Club: discord.gg/CoachKoby
Roadhog into Zarya isn’t that good? Tell me you don’t play tank without telling me you don’t play tank
If you dont feed her charge you're set
@@something9318 and if your team doesn't. I'd rather not make the bet that 4 other people also know not to shoot the bubbles
@@Hietakissa tbf thats also a problem for every other tank
@@something9318 but more so for hog since she can also block the hook with a bubble
@@HietakissaIf all 5 of you shoot her she dies lol
Some of these gamers really need to touch grass because they clearly don't see potential and wanna nitpick things that they themselves would fall into. Tank already plays way better than what some of the metal ranks offer
Diamond I say he’s not bad
Yo jay3 nice vid keep it up can I be part of your vid sometime I would really really enjoy and appreciate it
What he mean by “LOS his healers”?
LOS = Line of Sight; means he broke line of sight with his healers, making it difficult for them to support him.
@@SamiSalamiGER thank you thank you
16:55 he was high energy as zarya and ulted 3 people. He did not right clicked once. Jumped predictable instead of strafing to extend his survival. Yeah he is platin alright.
asia plat = eu plat = na master
Bro I'm so sick of people saying (maw-ga) it's (m-ow-ga)
I think Jay needs to spectate some plat games... Would be surprised how well most plat players can play if put in the right circumstances. The gap from bronze-silver-gold is really small compared to the gap from those ranks to plat. Plat players are frequently matched up against diamonds or higher. I think he has the skill, but he deserves plat until he plays enough games and gets diamond. Everyone else does it, he can do it too. And if he can't, he isn't playing well enough when it matters.(Comp, where your supports aren't masters and babysitting you because you're the stream guest for the day)
All I can say is that old heads are still playing the game acting like the game hasn't changed so they think they big brain when reality it's out dated
Jay3, may I suggest banning Mauga in this type of content? Mauga, as everyone knows, is kinda brainless now that even a Silver who just picks Mauga can just point and shoot and win. If we wanna see his skill, let him play his other Mains.
no way he deserves masters or even diamond he just not very good
This dude isn't plat at all, what are u talking about?
Nah hes a plat player
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I wouldnt say diamond or masters. Looks like high gold gameplay with the aiming and needless callouts
He can blend in but to say he deserves it is a no you need to be a difference maker yo be master not just a person that can blend in
He blocked shatters, cancel punched the tank, rolled first game. I'd say he was a difference maker.
@@emacliftsalothe's plat
@@emacliftsalotand his support held his hand keeping him alive every time he made a mistake. And he did those a bunch. Only reason he performed as good as he did.
@marxmanw3877 every high elo support does that. They were doing it on the other side too. The enemy tank just died more due to what?
@marxmanw3877 getting help from a support is their job 🤣 it's not like masters players don't make mistakes too. They make a lot of them you think too much of high elo players.
As a console player I completely agree that pc is better, console is just shit, when i play with my friends im in about silver pc lobbys wich feels like diamond console
Anything below T500 console is worse bc the player base is more casual. T500 console has beaten T500 PC in every tournament they've done. The only team console lost to was an OWL contenders team
Xbox is better by far