This Poor Vintage Gibson Guitar...
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- On the recent trip to Texas, I found a great example of a 1964 Gibson Melody Maker. A week later back home in Florida, I found a VERY different 1964 Gibson Melody Maker...
I try to pick choice examples or quality player's grade vintage guitars usually for the shop, but sometimes when you find something interesting and different you gotta grab it. Join me as we take a deep dive into this vintage Gibson guitar with a Kahler Tremolo??
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00:00 Finding Two 1964 Gibson Melody Makers
00:54 Comparing the Two
02:29 Let's Take Things Apart
11:17 The Electronics
13:35 Setting Things Up
16:13 Clean Tone Demo
17:16 Distorted Tone Demo
17:58 Pricing This Guitar - Hudba
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Something about your videos that I really like is that you don't shred. Instead you play something that is cool and interesting that I would actually like to play. Rock on.
I like it. I wouldn't buy it, but I like that someone did their own thing to it and really made it their own.
The vintage Kahler, thats what I thought that was. I had a Kahler factory Kramer that had to take the lock nut off to get to the truss hole, as well. Thats no big deal. Crazy that you like that kind of unique stuff, which is why I love your channel.
Thank you so much!! 🙏
@@aflashfloodofgear You bet. I had to buy that book you had, as well. Thats a cool book to learn from. They had one on the Zon.
That poor Melody Maker! what a shame!
This might sound crazy but that body can actually be saved. All a guy needs to do is cut a straight surface where each "horn" used to be, cut a mortice then sister on two pieces of identical wood (hopefully aged) with a tenon and glue. With good finish skills a guy could either stain it or repaint if burst (which would hide any joint seams).
Add vintage pickup/s and harness and return this great instrument back to its original glory.
great to hear you play! more of this
I would just part that out . But someone will love it the way it is .. $650 all day
Sounds a lot better than the original weak single coil pickup. Those Dimarzio's sound awesome.
I am glad thar you went over the guitar and showed the mods made on it. I am sure the player made it fit his needs and likings. I liked it, I think its cool!
Thank you! Yes I'm sure they did!!
What "needs" would you think he would have to cut the horns off?
@@Jeremya74 Pure style of the era I am thinking Jeremy.
Yes indeed that ol gibson deserves some tlc, this is why i love your channel so much !
The funky MM reminded me of a smaller, and completely different version of a Musicraft Messenger. Just by looks really. If I liked the way it played, I'd want it just for the aesthetics.
I would use a nut driver to remove and tighten the tuner post nuts. Crescent wrench could slip and do damage. Love the old guitar. Love your videos.
I'd put that in the cool/vibey category. Way unique and the finish looks well done, even if that, and the reshaping, brings it down to player grade. Nothing wrong with a well-excecuted one of a kind!
The clean demo didn’t have to go that hard 😭
I couldn't find the listing.. was curious what was the price on this beast?
Love it!
Cheers
Reminds me of a double cut melody maker I found at a local music store.
Someone had put dual humbuckers and a tune o matic with a stop bar instead of the wrap under all in one.
I much preferred that set up so it didn't bother me that it had been changed.
I bought another guitar that day and just didn't have money for both.
I begged my dad to loan me the money but he started in on "That's not a work of art. It is a picture frame that used to contain a work of art and that has been removed. It is worthless now. Besides you will find another one before too long."
Did I mention this Gibson was $350? (early to mid 1990 money)
That was the first and only sub $500 Gibson I ever found.
Oh well.
I didn't really care it was worth less because it was not original.
I cared that it was a Gibson with 2 humbuckers so I could get Les Paul sounds out of it.
I would have never sold it but if I wanted to I am sure I could have gotten my money back.
It's cool as the funky piece it is. If it were mine and I decided to go all out I'd do this: Recreate the horns, fill the trem route and all extra routes other than to make it HH with those dimarzios. I'd put a tune o matic bridge on it and refinish it. I'd come up with a custom pickguard for it. Oh and plug all the extra holes in the headstock and put vintage style tuners on it.
That is a wicked cool case, which looks like alligator, is it? Check out that bridge. That is bad to the bone so cool. No doubt have to have it.
Yes that is correct!! Definitely cool to see it so well preserved.
Are you saying you have to have that guitar?...or case?...and how much would you pay if you have to have it?
@@Jeremya74 Hi Jeremy, if your asking me I was commenting on the reaction to unique vintage gear not neccassarily that guitar or case. Both I thought were unique and when I see something like that or a good deal like Marshall lowering Handwired amp prices I "JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT." The Kahler is very interesting on the bridge problem JR. I have thought about putting a Floyd Rose Rail Tail on one, but it would take a luthier to get it perfect. I put one on my Fender Custom Shop which a vintage Fender Bridge it fit perfect no holes or mods required and can be reversed without ever knowing it. I have never seen one like it. If I had another Custom Shop I would put the Rail Tail on it, as well. Its my best playing Strat that never goes out of tune. Its sort of like the Vega Trim. Anyways all that unique kind of gear I have a problem wanting it really bad as its a lot of one offs and I just have to try it. I think the guitar is listed for around $1400 give or take. Thats a fair price I think. Its Vintage with issues and some plusses. The Dimarzio Pickups are wicked cool, as well. Take care and Rock N Roll to ya.
You made check Reverb for value of my Melody Maker Flying V Anniversary ( only Gibson I own but I have a couple unique Epiphones). I'd never sell it but DANG! those Melody Makes have gone up in value.
Sockets dude I almost started crying!
Alex. I’m thinking the dude that owned this many years ago was a Grand Funk Railroad fan. Mark Farner played a 67 Musiccraft Messenger that looks a lot like your extremely modded Melody Maker! Just a thought.
😊 man you're pretty smooth with that guitar nice job cleaning and polishing it up it looks a lot better after you got it all shined up. I would definitely let you work on my babies your very gentle and know how to take care of them. No scratches no din. Keep up the good work really enjoy your videos
Hey, like your videos. Please tell me what color is the Strat behind Alex.
I love these videos ..thank you 👌👍
With refinish, body pieces hacked off, electronics modded, routing, and bridge, etc,. I would pay about $700. I would put a black pickup cover on the single col and black knobs.
Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful weekend Alex also gang ❤😊
Are the strap buttons original?😮
I think it looks amazing, kinda Red Special vibes. Sometimes body modified Gibsons are cool (like this) other times super awful
Definitely has that vibe!!
It tripped my trigger with what I though was a 60s vibe style guitar shape and a 70s vibe bridge and Dimarzios. Not often do you see a blend of those two decades with equipment and gear.
The Gibson Tweety Bird! going by the body shape it's almost identical to Tweety birds head!! I love all your videos but this was almost too painful to look at😄🙈
Awesome!!!
I have sat down and played this sin, and it plays so well. Too bad it’s been defanged but someone is ganna rock that look. It’s so ridiculous it’s kinda sick god bless
Amputee Guitars! Never owned one. Trogoly has a cool video on some. I saw a hondo star a while back and someone had cut off each horn crazy
Oh no!!! Absolutely wild
Ooooh the stories that guitar could tell
Stories of abuse and neglect.
I knew precisely those were dimarzio super distortions the very moment I saw them..
Where do you live … we sound super similar guitar players and i’m actually a drummer first and foremost so let’s start a band like yesterday
I think it looks better than the original.
Excellent video. Q: Does one buy a guitar for how it sounds or how it looks...or the name on the headstock ? It will look the same on your next hit CD ! I would love a real Tele or an SG with a vibrato, but my Westones probably sound better and I can still afford to eat.
Deke Leonard cut the holes in his Bullseye vintage Tele (qv) and it sounded great and looked cool (it was stolen).
That Melody Maker will find a home, it's famous now 😉!
I actually love it, leave it like it is
Oh, that's nothing - ever heard of Wild Jimmy Spruill? He was guitarist on loads of stuff, most notably the wonderfully scratchy solo on Kansas City by Wilbert Harrison.
The Gibson Les Paul Personal is a rare guitar - only 370 were made between 1969 to 1973.
Google 'Wild Jimmy Spruill guitar' and have a look at what he did with his!
That’s thing is rad! It reminds me of a best friend’s little brother: kinda cool but kinda needs to get cut off.
It reminds me of someone who was a teenager in the 60s where that design is 60s for sure with it trimmed up symetrical. I think there is a guitar shaped like that that was popular in the 60s. Maybe a VOX? Then the Pickups and Bridge is very early 70s. It is RAD for sure.
I kinda like it, but would also keep on changing it.
What's your Harbor Freight discount code?
Firewood
A Mark Farner fan going for the Musicraft look on the cheap.
I was going to say the body shape reminded me of the Messenger guitar he played in GFR’s earliest days.
I can sympathize with someone wanting an upgrade from the original single coil pickup - a P90 or PAF would be a big sonic improvement. But good heavens did someone do a number on that poor instrument. Wow. Interesting video.
I knew precisely those were dimarzio super distortions the very moment I saw them..
Where do you live ?… we sound like super similar players and i’m actually a drummer first and foremost so let’s start a band like yesterday
The black paint on the heel is kinda suspect.
You should you it as a give-a-way. Anyone who buys over $4000 in gear gets it free.
Over $5.00.
I would rock it. But I would only pay $600 tops
Hey guys this was a really awesome video! I and I'm sure many others appreciate that you guys decided not to attempt any shenanigans "restoring" a piece like this! A lot of vintage guitar enthusiasts will have this common sentiment that they love guitars with a story or history, but whenever they find one that was unique or didn't have the right history, then they go on about how it was ruined and many attempt to destroy such examples by "restoring" it to more generic, period-correct specs. I personally find this practice to be VERY distasteful, as it is quite frankly extremely disrespectful to the guitar itself and it's history, and in general to the notion itself of cool vintage guitars with a story. Such a shame that the same folks who claim to love vintage history would destroy it without a second thought, because undesirable examples are better whitewashed from history it seems... Anyhow, keep Rocking guys! \m/ I subscribed because of this video, awesome demo btw...
I’m onboard with all those mods except the previous owner’s decision to saw off the horns of the double cut. What in the world would posses someone to mutilate a vintage guitar like that? Such a shame.
I remember seeing an SG that had the same thing done by a religious man who didn't like having "devil horns" on his guitar.😈
@@hangingchad_ proving you don’t need to be a smart man to be excessively religious.
If I had $1200 to offer for it, I would. I would have to get new tuners, and remove the Kahler because I do not use any bars.
I am sort of the same way except I like a Floyd Rose but I never use the bar. I block it down and its the best tuning bridge around. I stay in tune with it blocked, and with it blocked changing strings is a super breeze.
Cool😮😮😮
I would rock it😂
Are there swap meets in Orlando?? Where?
They had one a few months ago in Mt Dora flea market. It looks like they do a few events a year.
Our Swap Meet is on the Second Sunday of every September, November, January, March and May.
@@LCMSMthanks for the info, is it vintage only or open to everything?
@@LatentPoet our Swap Meets are open to everything
all the mods are fine except for the body shape
I mean......it's kinda a vibe.
Just as pretty as a new Theadore. If that’s your thing.
Q-tips are our friends
Looks like someone liked the look of an Ovation
You did all that fret polishing etc but never serviced the kahler trem by pulling the roller pins and lubing the rollers and replacing the springs. This why people always bitch about Kahlers no maintenance. 1500 lol 😅
Not everything makes the final cut in the video. This really wasn't supposed to be a setup video and more just focusing on the weirdness. We back Kahlers though and maybe we'll make some more in-depth cleaning and setup videos in the future? 🤔
Man that thing is hideous. Haha I’m sure somebody will love it though
People get their panties in a bunch over guitars modded like this, but at the end of the day when it was born it was a "student model" guitar - not a collectors piece. Look at the legendary Bursts - NOBODY WANTED THEM at the time, to the degree Gibson stopped making Les Pauls. What these guitars were to their original owners is a country mile away from how a cork sniffing blues lawyer sees them today.
Looks like someone was going for an Ovation Viper kind of vibe… A bit of an ugly duckling but ya know back around ‘84 that would have been a pretty bitchin’ axe…
Just sayin’.
What's the deal with the CME shirt?
More power to you for trying to save that poor guitar, but an eviscerated mid-60s Melody Maker? I am NOT the "one buyer" you are looking for. I wouldn't pay $50 for it. That said, best of luck finding someone to play and love it.
This is a piece of wood with strings and stuff. That's what all solid body guitars are.
At least the people who did this were not some brand worshipping idiots with a vintage fetish.
I have 3-1961 Melody Makers and all of them are fabulous and in great shape! But yours is a giant piece of crap-ola! These use to be $100.-250. Guitars, but now it’s out of this world.. good luck with this!
Whoever did that to a beautiful '64 Melody Maker deserves to go on trial for crimes against humanity!
The background music is off put. Don't you guys play guitar?
Savage destruction of a classic.
Its worth nothing.
I’m more interested in what you paid for it, I don’t think I would want to sell something like that , just throw it in the fireplace.
Why would he tell you what he paid for it when some fool will buy it?..I hope not more than $50 for parts
Sounds like garbage
If you got it cheap, than cool
To me that is not a gibson anymore. Part it out .
It's a custom! 🤪