Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Chinese Grand Prix

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  • @iiTsFaded_
    @iiTsFaded_ Před měsícem +1472

    Don’t lie, you’re here for the lambasting of Lance stroll

    • @gaminggenerationz
      @gaminggenerationz Před měsícem +5

      hi faded

    • @iiTsFaded_
      @iiTsFaded_ Před měsícem +3

      @@gaminggenerationzhello! ❤

    • @quintuscrinis8032
      @quintuscrinis8032 Před měsícem +24

      And they still scored him too high.

    • @randar1969
      @randar1969 Před měsícem +4

      actually i was here to see if Max got another 10...

    • @duuudde12
      @duuudde12 Před měsícem +11

      100%. But if lance doesn't get -16 ima be pissed😂

  • @ricksgamemisc10
    @ricksgamemisc10 Před měsícem +719

    My favorite bit of commentary on the broadcast, "Bottas out with an engine issue. Tsunoda out with a Magnussen issue."

    • @armanshahbaz7130
      @armanshahbaz7130 Před měsícem +14

      Magnussen became pretty nasty in this season

    • @Alucard-gt1zf
      @Alucard-gt1zf Před měsícem +11

      Hes literally always been like this, he just took a break in 2022​@armanshahbaz7130

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      @@armanshahbaz7130 He always had it in him. 😄

    • @EthanKlassen00
      @EthanKlassen00 Před měsícem +5

      Most sporting driver on the grid

    • @pederslothzuricho7685
      @pederslothzuricho7685 Před měsícem +1

      @@armanshahbaz7130 You are delluded this one is 100% Kmags fault, for misjudging Tsunodas line, but the rest of "incidents" this year even by the other drivers involved clearly vindicate Kmag of all blame. Calling him nasty is just NBA-fandom making it into racing.

  • @Wmskamananrnr
    @Wmskamananrnr Před měsícem +468

    Stroll ratin is at 12:44

  • @AlexmacKnotty22
    @AlexmacKnotty22 Před měsícem +491

    I think after all of his shenanigans stroll deserves -1 as a new grade to the system

  • @vogel2077
    @vogel2077 Před měsícem +265

    someone from the fia need to explain me why alonso got a harsher penalty than stroll his weekend

    • @burritoomg
      @burritoomg Před měsícem +49

      Or why Logan got a penalty at all instead of just being directed to surrender the position. I understand that the FiA is trying to be more consistent with its rulings, but when everyone thinks you've got it wrong... geez.

    • @ZaniReviews
      @ZaniReviews Před měsícem +10

      Daddy's Money

    • @DaHitch
      @DaHitch Před měsícem +6

      @@burritoomg Because FIA/Race Director/Stewards don't interfere with that anymore. It's up to the driver/team to figure out if they are entitled to keep the position or not. The Stewards will not ask them to do the right thing but will go straight to penalising if the teams don't figure it out themselves.

    • @tjayk9127
      @tjayk9127 Před měsícem

      Daddy Stroll can hedge the FIAs pockets that’s why.

    • @Morganox09
      @Morganox09 Před měsícem +1

      Because Alonso did it on purpose and they dont want him to do it again while Stroll was just stupid

  • @ramirovillarreal5666
    @ramirovillarreal5666 Před měsícem +125

    I gott a 10/10 for the theam of mecanics of RedBull chainging tires...

    • @lukasgraesslin
      @lukasgraesslin Před měsícem +14

      yeah that was pretty insane. 1.9, 2.0, 2.0 and 2.1

  • @cholatepnabangchang4834
    @cholatepnabangchang4834 Před měsícem +46

    26:33 That red 0 feels so satisfying, even though we know there is nothing we plebs can concretely do to dislodge that man from his seat.

    • @czechvirusS
      @czechvirusS Před měsícem

      the more aston has to deal with hate the more it could potentialy impact them
      also telling the sponsors could impact them since sponsors getting hate for a driver in a team they sponsor might sway their opinions and either pull out or put pressure on aston

  • @JustVallas
    @JustVallas Před měsícem +102

    stroll just want to lead the championship for most bratty f1 driver

  • @saint.vitus.7775
    @saint.vitus.7775 Před měsícem +24

    It's so true - Everyone would be willing to cut Lance Stroll some slack - if head had only said, "My bad. Sorry about that Danny Ric."

  • @jamithon4227
    @jamithon4227 Před měsícem +39

    Stroll being stroll took the heat off Kevin because wow, Kevin’s mistake was also diabolical.

    • @tomk5066
      @tomk5066 Před měsícem +7

      The difference is that Kevin’s mistake was at least during the proper part of the race. Lance did Lance things behind the safety car

    • @ehrlichgesagt863
      @ehrlichgesagt863 Před měsícem +2

      ​@tomk5066 that doesnt make it better. Both misjudged there opponent if anything kmags is more terrible because it's deliberate

    • @tomk5066
      @tomk5066 Před měsícem +4

      @@ehrlichgesagt863 it’s definitely not deliberate. There is no benefit for Kevin to intentionally punt someone out of the race. Just rubbish driving from Lance and Kevin

  • @GuyInc0gnit0
    @GuyInc0gnit0 Před měsícem +21

    Not giving us the averages over the season at the end of each video is a crime!

  • @RaxCrow
    @RaxCrow Před měsícem +39

    I made it a point to vote on the polls for this race just to grade Stroll at 0. Glad that was the general consensus from fans.

  • @crazycjk
    @crazycjk Před měsícem +16

    I firmly believe that the only reason Magnussen and Stroll didn't crash when racing is because each driver fears the other equally

  • @Lachlancopeland
    @Lachlancopeland Před měsícem +8

    The problem is the boys sometimes look at where the car finished and sometimes look at where the car should have been and score that. If Yuki and Danny’s weekends were swapped it would have been a 3 for Daniel if not a 2 and a 7-8 for yuki.

  • @louneissen1603
    @louneissen1603 Před měsícem +26

    Even with battery and DRS they could not overtake Max when he did not have both. That was the scary part.

  • @sejhnly
    @sejhnly Před měsícem +19

    I wonder what race the fans watched to give a 7 for Bottas

  • @ZEROxFUSIONZ
    @ZEROxFUSIONZ Před měsícem +122

    I feel the grade for Daniel is a bit low.
    Had a great qualifying both times and could have gotten points too. He was put on a sub optimal strategy however he closed an 11 second gap to Bottas to 5 seconds in 5 laps and had lots of pace in hand.

    • @jesseyoannidis1274
      @jesseyoannidis1274 Před měsícem +27

      Agreed. Pulled more than half a second out of Yuki in sprint qualifying and 3 tenths in race qualy. Worthy of a 7/10 I reckon.

    • @RaZor921
      @RaZor921 Před měsícem +26

      If Piastri gets a 7/10 for losing positions and being pretty far off Lando all weekend (which I think is a fair score for him honestly) I think Daniel deserved at least a 7 for being the stronger RB driver all weekend and at least running in the points before Stroll decided to do Stroll things. We don't know how screwed over he'd have been by the incredibly questionable strategy RB put him on but his pace was strong.

    • @ZEROxFUSIONZ
      @ZEROxFUSIONZ Před měsícem +6

      @@RaZor921without the safety car he was rapid on the fresher tyres as he went longer so would of pit later than the others towards the end and be rapid again.
      With the safety car his mediums were still pretty fresh so probably could of held 8th for a while and then pit and be far quicker than everyone else on old hards so again could of made up lots of positions.
      I think points were on the table for sure but unfortunately stroll happened

    • @Duval-In-The-Wall
      @Duval-In-The-Wall Před měsícem +14

      It’s very low, he made overtakes on Albon, Tsunoda and was chasing down Hamilton on pure pace. Fair to criticize him for the first 4 races but he should get some credit IMO

    • @fallenshallrise
      @fallenshallrise Před měsícem +1

      I think it's fair. It's hard to give a driver who DNFs a higher rating for what ifs. I think the ratings get interesting when/if Danny Ric finishes a race ahead of Yuki. Will he get a 10/10 like Yuki did or more like a 7/10 because the expectations on him as a race winner are a lot higher.

  • @Ozeneu10
    @Ozeneu10 Před měsícem +9

    One thing I want to say is Ferrari probably has the best driver pairing of the bunch, because whichever driver is on top that day, the other driver is not far behind. We don't have the inconsistency like Merc drivers, Max's domination of Red Bull, or the Aston Martin Stroll debuff.

  • @raunakroy1738
    @raunakroy1738 Před měsícem +34

    Man, the fans are so biased against Ocon.. My man dragged that tractor Alpine to 11th ahead of Albon, yet they gave Albon 6, and Ocon 5😅

    • @abbofun9022
      @abbofun9022 Před měsícem +6

      He’s not very likable, doesn’t help

    • @Milkywayboy
      @Milkywayboy Před měsícem +1

      He is a tool box
      He doesn’t help his case

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem

      I think it's more the opposite, they usually overrate Albon.

    • @darrylaz3570
      @darrylaz3570 Před měsícem

      Also Lance being 0 is neigh impossible for me, you're telling me somehow all your fans voting which I'd imagine is in the hundreds all collectively gave a 0 and not plenty of 1s and 2s?

    • @aliiirxsa4235
      @aliiirxsa4235 Před měsícem +1

      ⁠@@juuikonah a lot of ppl don‘t vibe with him from what i‘ve seen
      me too, can‘t rly explain why
      i still think the rating was unfair tho

  • @jonathannovak2881
    @jonathannovak2881 Před měsícem +32

    Don't know how you can give Sainz only one point lower than Leclerc, when you give Gasly 2 less than Ocon for actually being closer in the race than Sainz to Leclerc

    • @gabriel-mariearnault1762
      @gabriel-mariearnault1762 Před měsícem +6

      And Ocon had the upgrades, for me Gasly technicaly did a better weekend when taking the circumpstances into account

    • @Duval-In-The-Wall
      @Duval-In-The-Wall Před měsícem +8

      Sainz also binned it in quali

    • @Arshmathur12
      @Arshmathur12 Před měsícem +1

      @@Duval-In-The-Wall spun didn't bin it if he had he wouldn't have qualified next to leclerc

    • @Arshmathur12
      @Arshmathur12 Před měsícem

      towards the last stint sainz was just nursing his tires ti bring it home because there was no threat to his position nor did he have to overtake leclerc ahead of him so the gap may seem a lot but it wasn't like he couldn't have shorten it

    • @jonathannovak2881
      @jonathannovak2881 Před měsícem +6

      @@Arshmathur12 sorry but thats bs. His tyres were 2 laps older that doesn't make a difference of 10 seconds. Not to mention on the mediums in the first stint he was ALSO 10 seconds behind Leclerc

  • @husse7300
    @husse7300 Před měsícem +40

    Gotta disagree with the ratings of Bottas and Ricciardo.

    • @bobsyfant7289
      @bobsyfant7289 Před měsícem

      Explain

    • @Sem5626
      @Sem5626 Před měsícem +12

      @@bobsyfant7289 he had a fair chance at points which normally gets yuki an 8+ at least until stroll decided to take him out of the race
      he out qualified his team mate twice... by a long way
      to give him a 6 while stroll, the dude who took him out got a 3???

    • @radiantvalor
      @radiantvalor Před měsícem +9

      Bottas should be at minimum a 9, imo Alonso too but that is a bit more debatable. Ricciardo should definitely be around a 7 or 8 as well

    • @husse7300
      @husse7300 Před měsícem +5

      @@bobsyfant7289 Ricciardo was consistently faster than Yuki all weekend, and was fighting for points until Lance did what he did. Bottas was mopping the floor with Zhou in that shitbox Sauber and was fighting for points. The fact that he got the same rating as zhou is unbelievable.

    • @ind-tamilgangsters1956
      @ind-tamilgangsters1956 Před měsícem

      Ignore this rating part. They're so biased and personal in this. Just enjoy their other podcast

  • @epic2owls
    @epic2owls Před měsícem +5

    What i think would be fun is if you also had a section that grades the team as a whole (basically strategy, pit crew etc etc)

  • @milnez
    @milnez Před měsícem +33

    Lance Stroll discovers negative numbers…

    • @ehrlichgesagt863
      @ehrlichgesagt863 Před měsícem

      I mean sry but why? He made a error its not like it's impossible to get caught in that. We had drivers like George losing it under SC while warming up his tyres.

    • @bram5825
      @bram5825 Před měsícem +6

      Errors can be made. But this wasn't an error. This was blatant Idiocracy. This is like a normal person trying to park the car but hitting the gas instead of the break. It's someone veering off to the right because of a distraction.
      And on top of that blaming the people around him.
      He has no place on track.

    • @Alucard-gt1zf
      @Alucard-gt1zf Před měsícem +1

      ​@@ehrlichgesagt863it wasn't an error it was stupidity

    • @stijnvandenheuvel8117
      @stijnvandenheuvel8117 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@ehrlichgesagt863the main part isn't even the incident, that can indeed happen. It's his reaction afterward and his complete inability to admit his mistake that lowers him to a 1/10

    • @razick0
      @razick0 Před měsícem +1

      @@ehrlichgesagt863 he blames EVERYONE else when he screws up. The mistake was bad, but his handling of it is even worse.

  • @xZocker212x
    @xZocker212x Před měsícem +125

    7 for Bottas? What are you people smoking?

    • @lloyd8965
      @lloyd8965 Před měsícem +51

      Yeah, 8 or 9 imo, he was on for point(s) for the 3rd race in a row with that car as his teammate is struggling. Im just furious if he loses his seat for next year even with this form

    • @ThereMayBeLions
      @ThereMayBeLions Před měsícem +3

      ​@@lloyd8965I feel like, given Sauber's form or lack thereof, the only way Valteri's seat is at risk is if somehow they manage to get Carlos Sainz into that seat (which, why at this point - he's not desperate now) and court Nico Hulkenberg from Haas. Zhou would be the first to go, unless Bottas is just done with racing.

    • @lloyd8965
      @lloyd8965 Před měsícem

      @@ThereMayBeLions well yeah but im afraid because they have been talking about so many drivers, sainz, hülkenberg, ocon, gasly, mick

    • @ralphe5842
      @ralphe5842 Před měsícem +1

      Bottas was driving quite well considering his team is a disaster

    • @malvinelpinnoy
      @malvinelpinnoy Před měsícem

      ​@@ThereMayBeLions it's a hilarious fantasy that you considering a possibility of Carlos moving to Kick Sauber 😂

  • @walover165
    @walover165 Před měsícem +4

    Sargeant getting a 4 for a pretty clean and tidy race but Magnussen getting a 5 for crashing into Tsunoda is fucking wild. Did the guy turn you down for an interview or something?

  • @thecompanioncube4211
    @thecompanioncube4211 Před měsícem +26

    3 is way too much for stroll who takes a piss on everyone who strives for betterment

    • @sean7412
      @sean7412 Před měsícem +1

      @@christofferrsnes9508Tommy gave stroll a 3 and Matt gave him a 1

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Před měsícem +1

      @@sean7412 still too high, should be a 0

    • @sean7412
      @sean7412 Před měsícem +1

      @@RhomasTotevenaar oh no yeah i agree I was just tryna clarify

    • @ehrlichgesagt863
      @ehrlichgesagt863 Před měsícem +1

      So you rate his race on the person? Nice to see that people arnt understand the hole idea of that. I mean if we are at that point why not let the fantasy vote before the race? It's obviously in no world a 0 or 1 it would be if he just lost the car while warming up his tyres but getting caught in 4 cars breaking in a place where you start Turing and rolling is not a terrible mistake

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      3 is a fine reflection of his weekend if you remove the antipathy for simply being Lance Stroll.

  • @BelegCuthali0n
    @BelegCuthali0n Před měsícem +13

    7:30 The Sprint Shootout wasn't fully wet though, only SQ3 was wet and since Ricciardo was knocked out in SQ2, he couldn't do anything to shake things up in the wet for SQ3.

    • @Arshmathur12
      @Arshmathur12 Před měsícem +2

      true 4 for yuki qualifying 19th both times and 6 for daniel doesn't seem fair

  • @Duval-In-The-Wall
    @Duval-In-The-Wall Před měsícem +17

    Let me get this straight, on the earlier podcast it was agreed Piastri was a “clear flop” but here he gets a 7?
    How does that work?

    • @Wolfywolf7
      @Wolfywolf7 Před měsícem +2

      I think he was more of a flop result-wise, given the damage he carried throughout the race. It doesn't mean it was his fault, but that's their definition of a "flop" I think.

    • @Marine_bln
      @Marine_bln Před měsícem +1

      I agree I think he should have gotten a 5 or 6 at best

    • @JC-lu4se
      @JC-lu4se Před měsícem

      @@Wolfywolf7 Oscar said himself 5th was possible without the damage but he was something like 12 seconds behind at the first pit stop. He's having some slow weekends.

    • @Wolfywolf7
      @Wolfywolf7 Před měsícem +1

      @@JC-lu4se P5 would have been a solid result.
      I strongly believe that Oscar will be a force to be reckoned with on the grid in a few years time. His cool composure is going to really help him under high-pressure racing scenarios.
      People are putting too much expectation on him too early, I feel like. I don't think he should be expected to match or be super close Lando like a lot of people are saying, especially considering Lando is one of the most talented drivers on the grid, and very in tune with his car and his team.

    • @greenfj1466
      @greenfj1466 Před měsícem

      ​@@Wolfywolf7I mean Oscar was 1.5 seconds a lap slower than lando before the damage so I'm surprised he didnt get rated 5

  • @shenight80
    @shenight80 Před měsícem +14

    Ocon had a new chassis and floor that Gasly did not have. His car is more than 4kg lighter than gasly this Week end. He should be more ahead.

    • @ronan1686
      @ronan1686 Před měsícem +7

      He was as close to the points as possible, not like he could stay ahead of Hamilton and the Haas and Sauber were clearly still faster than Alpine

  • @TnnR03
    @TnnR03 Před měsícem +3

    7:28 Ricciardo waving right in front of a Stroll picture is just pure comedy😂😂

  • @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter
    @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter Před měsícem +104

    7 for Hamilton is interesting - as much as he really overperfomed in the sprint he was bailed out from a Terrible performance on the Sunday by lucky SC timing and stroll playing bowling infront - I think 6 is reasonable

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před měsícem +23

      Either is understandable but George was better this weekend overall tbh.

    • @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter
      @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter Před měsícem

      @@gameofender4463agreed

    • @kimi88cz
      @kimi88cz Před měsícem +8

      Absolutely. They gave him same grade as Perez..he should be 6

    • @PjXu98
      @PjXu98 Před měsícem +10

      He didn't overperform in the sprint, he did just a good job. He already started 2nd, did a great job battling Lando at the start and from there he only let Max by.

    • @Weezy10580
      @Weezy10580 Před měsícem +13

      5 at best. They always tippy toe around Hamilton for fear of being called racist

  • @supawavyrecords523
    @supawavyrecords523 Před měsícem +50

    Daniel Ricciardo 6/10?
    Did you guys watch his race? Had a shocking start, but his race pace was rapid and was storming back through the field after his extended first stint. He passed Tsunoda and was about to catch Hamilton as the safetycar came out. He was absolutely on for 9th or 10th without a doubt. Honestly could well have been 9th he was on it. His extended first stint put him in a really big advantage for the rest of the race.
    Not just that but in the sprint he damn near went from 14th to 10th if it wasn't for Kevin's last lap defensive kamikaze moves.
    In the races he was the best of the rest without a doubt. Such a shame the Stroll punt and safety cars ruined his race. Considering Yuki was near the slowest guy on the track all weekend that deserves some extra credit imo.
    He was consistently 3-5 tenths faster than Yuki all weekend. If it was the other way round you would have given Daniel a 2-3 and Yuki a 9. Really biased or just unaware frankly.
    I think many have also glossed over the fact he finally got his new chassis he's been calling for, and straight away he's had his best weekend by far and slam dunked Yuki. Miami will be confirmation but it's entirely possible he was racing with a faulty car the first few races.

    • @chewtoffee5912
      @chewtoffee5912 Před měsícem +6

      Are you smoking? Ricardo still needed to box, he didn't box under Safety car so he had older tyres he would've been swormed by the first lap

    • @supawavyrecords523
      @supawavyrecords523 Před měsícem +10

      @@chewtoffee5912 Disagree he only did like 4-5 laps on them after pitting. The rest were like 7-8 laps slow behind VSC/safety car. He would have had a good 5-10 laps pushing while others on new cold hard tyres.
      See what Alonso did at the end? Ricciardo would have done the same more or less. We will never know though Stroll punted him into next week. Would have been fun to see him in 9th in clean air and then pitted for fresh soft tyres for the last stint.
      Safety car did ruin his race though overall. Without any safety car, I think he had guaranteed 9th or 10th.
      Regardless of all that. Point is Daniel was on it this weekend. To me it looks like the chassis issue was a real thing. He looked like his real self for the first time this year. Absolutely spanked Yuki all weekend.

    • @chewtoffee5912
      @chewtoffee5912 Před měsícem +2

      @@supawavyrecords523 What? So hypothetically if there was no Saftey car does that mean hypothetically Bottas doesn't DNF? Then from P10-8 would be between Stroll, Bottas or Hulkenberg. This was Riccardo's best race but he wasn't getting points

    • @ZEROxFUSIONZ
      @ZEROxFUSIONZ Před měsícem +12

      @@chewtoffee5912ricciardo closed down Bottas from 11 seconds to 5 seconds in 5 laps all while overtaking other cars.
      He easily had the pace to be fighting around Bottas who was in the points

    • @supawavyrecords523
      @supawavyrecords523 Před měsícem +2

      @@chewtoffee5912 Yes his race pace and tyre offset would have played a huge advantage without any safety cars. Most of the pack behind the top 8 cars pitted on lap 6-7. They were going to be fucked by the end. They were saved by having like 12 or so laps behind the safety car.

  • @duckman6403
    @duckman6403 Před měsícem +60

    the fact ricciardo has a 3 place grid penalty for miami because he re-overtook hulkenberg who went past after strolls shenanigans is just not fair.
    fia's rulebook is biting them.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib Před měsícem +5

      It's all on him though... he asked on radio and before they could reply back, he just went for it. You can't blame anyone but him.

  • @VestigeV47
    @VestigeV47 Před měsícem +45

    Lance stroll -10

  • @luvya1560
    @luvya1560 Před měsícem +11

    Lando now has the record for the biggest pole margin in the turbo-hybrid era + was the only person this year so far that beat a Red Bull without them having issues (Australia) he deserved that 10/10 this weekend despite his error in the sprint, because in that McLaren with zero performance updates thus far this is insanely impressive

    • @christofferrsnes9508
      @christofferrsnes9508 Před měsícem

      2. best margin actually. Hamilton Styrian gp quali was bigger i think
      10/10 is way too much.
      That mistake cost him a firm 3rd place and instead got 6th

    • @epicgamerchannel6230
      @epicgamerchannel6230 Před měsícem +6

      Even as a lando fan he didn't deserve the 10. Excluding the sprint, this is probably his best weekend in his career. But factoring in the sprint you just can't give him a 10. Even if he just gave up the position and held p2, or even p3, it would've been an easy 10. But it was too big a blunder to overlook imo.

    • @andrewf9423
      @andrewf9423 Před měsícem

      ​@@epicgamerchannel6230 Landos best weekend was austin 22 imo

    • @adamheddle430
      @adamheddle430 Před měsícem +1

      Lando deserves a 9. Coming from a lando fan. That sprint start costed him. Would have been 10/10 if he stayed behind Lewis at start. But 9/10.

  • @Duval-In-The-Wall
    @Duval-In-The-Wall Před měsícem +94

    Ricciardo 6 is harsh, out-qualified his teammate twice and his race pace was superb, he was moving so fast the broadcasters actually showed him on TV

    • @sarperdogan6454
      @sarperdogan6454 Před měsícem +10

      He wasn't getting any points all too likely and was out in q2

    • @nadialittle5821
      @nadialittle5821 Před měsícem +3

      EXACTLY - especially when giving lance a 3!

    • @Sykretts
      @Sykretts Před měsícem +12

      @@sarperdogan6454 What are you smoking? He was in 9th on the mediums and ahead of Hulk on that safety car, before stroll ended his race. There was still a 3rd of the race to go at that point.
      I swear people have all kinds of blinders on just so they can put him down. Its very weird and pathetic behavior, even from these 2 hosts.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib Před měsícem +7

      ​​@@Sykrettshe was only 9th because he didnt pit, if he did, he would be behind Tsunoda. Ricc still has to do another pit, while the others dont.... and he can't do an Alonso and take back positions because the RB isn't a podium car.

    • @ferdimond5781
      @ferdimond5781 Před měsícem +8

      Its crazy especially when yuki got a 4/5. He was very comfortably ahead of him all weekend, and one point difference?

  • @quikesteve
    @quikesteve Před měsícem +10

    Great video as always. I would like to propose a team rating as well. Where you guys take in to consideration, pit stops, strategy, team orders, etc.

    • @abbofun9022
      @abbofun9022 Před měsícem

      You want another list lead by RB? 😅

  • @emmamontgomery5391
    @emmamontgomery5391 Před měsícem

    The photo of Dany with the giant smirking Lance face in the background is hilarious.

  • @lepeejon2955
    @lepeejon2955 Před měsícem +6

    Stroll is the Nikita Mazepin that won't go away.

  • @TechandLegobySohumPulekar
    @TechandLegobySohumPulekar Před měsícem +2

    22:51 The sarcasm!! 😂😂🤝

  • @ohdearabier8280
    @ohdearabier8280 Před měsícem

    Hii, just a suggestion but it would be lovely if you guys could recap all your driver ratings halfway through the season when there's the summer break! Like a 'How do the drivers fair rank-wise for the first half of the season'! I think it would be nice for us to see and also obviously is an easy video for you guys during a time where (probably xD) nothing much happens in the world of F1!
    Cheers! ^^

  • @Miguel-yf4yc
    @Miguel-yf4yc Před měsícem +9

    Gasly basically matched ocon all weekend without upgrades and he gets a 5

    • @AlexP-sh5vr
      @AlexP-sh5vr Před měsícem

      they hate the french, nothing new

    • @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts
      @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts Před měsícem

      5:0 in quali what else do you want😂

    • @AlexP-sh5vr
      @AlexP-sh5vr Před měsícem

      @@RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts stupid argument, Gasly had gearbox problem in the first 3 races in qualy (couldn't even make it to Jeddah race start)

  • @devashishrakshit1
    @devashishrakshit1 Před měsícem +2

    7/10 for Ocon?
    Dude outqualified his teammate and finished P11 in a literal Golf Cart. A 9 if I have ever seen one!

  • @Thick_Strawberry
    @Thick_Strawberry Před měsícem

    Low grip circuits are a double edged sword, we get better wheel to wheel racing due to there being multiple lines you could potentially take (example was turn 2 in china) and it was wild seeing overtakes in high speed corners such as the eases in Japan or the sweepers in china as well. But when everyone has low grip the red bulls (specifically max) have time warm up and or prep on lock cause he just drives away in these low grip conditions

  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity Před měsícem +3

    Stroll getting a 0 is 100% justified, maybe even too generous.

  • @stuartbowlerwell2845
    @stuartbowlerwell2845 Před měsícem

    7:22 - love the graphic of Danny Ric giving Lance a high 5 in the face 😆

  • @oysteinsoreide4323
    @oysteinsoreide4323 Před měsícem +4

    Actually Stroll deserved -10 for that lack of taking the blame for the incident.

  • @valecasini
    @valecasini Před měsícem +3

    20:13 well his jumber is 55 so it makes sense 😂
    Just saw a Ferrari post on X... Charles is the only driver to have been consistently in top 4 and still people are saying "bad" things about him 🤦😂

  • @karthikbalasubramanian3713
    @karthikbalasubramanian3713 Před měsícem

    Tommy living dangerously. I am loving it

  • @GreenoidAdventure
    @GreenoidAdventure Před měsícem

    7:27 love the pic - Danny Ric smacking Stroll in the face 😂

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      Ah, someone else noticed... 😂

  • @bobsyfant7289
    @bobsyfant7289 Před měsícem +12

    The disrespect for bottas from the fans is insane

  • @Trebuchet48
    @Trebuchet48 Před měsícem +3

    Can we rate the FIA? I give them a two, for the utterly bungled safety car issue when Bottas stopped and the ludicrous penalty for Ricciardo.

  • @chasing-liberty
    @chasing-liberty Před měsícem

    12:42 for the start of the Stroll 'not my fault' savaging.

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry Před měsícem

    15:55 Aston didn't make a mistake on the strategy. The only other alternative was putting on a set of mediums which would mean he'd have to pit again anyway.

  • @Vinny_919
    @Vinny_919 Před měsícem

    Mmmmm yes I’ve been waiting for this

  • @hugolouessard3914
    @hugolouessard3914 Před měsícem +3

    Do you guys even know that Ocon had the upgrades and not Gasly, and still Pierre qualified ahead in the sprint and was very close? Pierre deserves at least a 7, his main race was fantastic with a very long pitstop and only 1 hard tyre left (like Alonso)

    • @alexp2327
      @alexp2327 Před měsícem

      These 2 are clueless, they look at the result without even knowing basic context

  • @pbutok
    @pbutok Před měsícem

    The RB’s were both running low df rear wings all weekend. I’m fairly certain that was a pretty large part of thier wet qualifying performance.

  • @richmanricho
    @richmanricho Před měsícem

    Tommy was just on fire in this EP :D

  • @kelvin97233
    @kelvin97233 Před měsícem +10

    "Im not watching Formula 1 but this Max verstappen guy seems pretty good" - My mom.

    • @abbofun9022
      @abbofun9022 Před měsícem +2

      She obviously has a quick grasp . . . . .😅

    • @greenfj1466
      @greenfj1466 Před měsícem

      Well new fans don't know the cars are unequal and only really care about p1,I'm not saying max is bad or anything I think he might end up as the greatest ever when he retires but if the cars were equal its possible that someone like leclerc might beat him

  • @tak086
    @tak086 Před měsícem

    19:35 while a valid point, Oscar did get a sprint win - on merit - against said "man and machine that has broken every record"

  • @yerriff8115
    @yerriff8115 Před měsícem +4

    I think we should start giving Oscar less lenience for having significantly worse race pace than Lando, he's not a rookie anymore. 6/10 for me.

    • @walover165
      @walover165 Před měsícem +4

      Most experienced people say rookies need two years. Additionally, Piastri was one of the four drivers who'd never driven Shanghai which is notorious for tyre deg.

    • @greenfj1466
      @greenfj1466 Před měsícem

      ​@@walover165Piastri has been far off lando everywhere other than Saudi,Idk how much better he will get but I've seen so many better drivers like leclerc who was beating seb in his 2nd year while Oscar is majority of the time finishing miles behind lando

    • @huh4206
      @huh4206 Před měsícem +1

      it's only his second year, and had significant damage. let's not forget he has more wins than lando

    • @JC-lu4se
      @JC-lu4se Před měsícem

      One whole season....geez let's take Oscar to the cleaners now. Shows how much you know about F1.

  • @DavidCaddock
    @DavidCaddock Před měsícem

    Wheel Knowledge episode on the the new proposed points system

  • @pmor4272
    @pmor4272 Před měsícem

    Matt, well said regarding Charles and Lando. They're producing excellent performances and one mistake doesn't a washed make.

  • @timothyheimbach3260
    @timothyheimbach3260 Před měsícem

    You should rate the sprint and race separate than average then for the weekend with double weight on the race

  • @nicksurface3513
    @nicksurface3513 Před měsícem

    LOL. Love the reactions Stroll is generating. Think I'm turning into a fan of Sir Lancelot.

  • @myschevious11
    @myschevious11 Před měsícem +1

    "Magnussen doing Magnussen things" LOL oh wow, that one hurt. XD

  • @amethyststarr5669
    @amethyststarr5669 Před měsícem

    7:29 not stroll being in the background with danny ric

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak Před měsícem +1

    Giving Stroll anything above a 1 is silly. The 1 was generous. He doesn't belong in a race car, period, let alone the 4th best car on the grid at the moment.
    He didn't just destroy Ricciardo's car, he damaged Piastri's as well. Then to take no responsibility at all and immediately blame the person he wrecked?
    Lawrence Stroll needs to pull him from the car. He won't, but he could at least sit him out for a race and put a young driver in there.
    In fact, I say go for full publicity and put either Abbi Pulling or Doriane Pin in the car and make Lance watch. Can you imagine if either one of them is faster than him?
    Hell, they're all in Miami next race, do it there. At a minimum they'll take the racing seriously and own up to any mistakes they make.

  • @aquaspire7671
    @aquaspire7671 Před měsícem +1

    5:33 "I think he would be world champ if we had nore low grip tracks while he was in mercedes."
    2020 Turkey flashbacks

  • @mediocredan8194
    @mediocredan8194 Před měsícem +2

    Lance is taking up and wasting a perfectly good seat.
    He is not just running his dad's bank account, but also getting in the way of all the F2 drivers careers that are clearly more capable than he is.

  • @knivess3
    @knivess3 Před měsícem

    12:38 to the day I die. I’ll never ever understand that gasly switch. Like bro was better off retiring then going to alpine tbh.

  • @TheMissiIe
    @TheMissiIe Před měsícem +16

    Lance deserves a 10/10. Just because the memes and content has been hilarious

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Před měsícem +4

      Nice account mate haha. 10/10

    • @stijnvandenheuvel8117
      @stijnvandenheuvel8117 Před měsícem

      THE NERVE!

    • @Sem5626
      @Sem5626 Před měsícem

      lol your account is funny, meanwhile if i say that term in youtube comments my comments get deleted

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe Před měsícem +1

      @Sem5626 I think user names get more of a pass since someone *could* have window as a first name and licker as a last name

  • @wizkiddyami3636
    @wizkiddyami3636 Před měsícem +1

    8:45 logie went into the gravel in qualifying q1

  • @jarrodparker760
    @jarrodparker760 Před měsícem +1

    Daniel was 2 seconds behind Hamilton going into the safetu car who finished comfortably in the points. RB just had to pit him like Merc did with Hamilton. To say he wasnt close to points is unfair I think

  • @vayush08
    @vayush08 Před měsícem

    did tommy forgot first 2 sessions in SQ were dry? few times he said drivers should capitalise on wet SQ, but only SQ3 was wet

  • @sleepysalamander4291
    @sleepysalamander4291 Před měsícem +41

    How can Zhou get a 7? Even a 6 is ridiculous. He was thoroughly outperformed by bottas in every metric bar a sprint race where his wing was broken. He was like 7 seconds off the pace in sprint qualifying and was out-qualified by like 5 tenths in the same session by bottas in Saturday qualifying. This is just home race washing a pretty shocking performance

    • @Xeleko
      @Xeleko Před měsícem +2

      and at the same time Ocon get 7 with an Alpine... lol

    • @sadikurrahman4833
      @sadikurrahman4833 Před měsícem +1

      its the chinese tax coming into effect. +10 for giving him a 7

    • @Ronny999x
      @Ronny999x Před měsícem +1

      Pity points because he most likely drove his first and last Home Race😅

    • @pavulon5000
      @pavulon5000 Před měsícem

      +200 social credit points for Matt and Tommy

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 Před měsícem +5

      To be fair, Bottas broke his wing on Zhou's rear wheel. If anything, it was on Bottas in the sprint.

  • @Jacedives
    @Jacedives Před měsícem

    Was the image for Danny Ric at 7:22 on purpose? 😂

  • @portfolioteam319
    @portfolioteam319 Před měsícem +1

    KMag had 1 qualifying attempt in Q1 vs Hulkenbergs 3. First attempt he was ahead of Hulkenberg. Second attempt he missed because he was on weighbridge. Third attempt he hit Sargeant yellow flag. Then had a horrible starting place and had to gamble on some hards. Obviously a 3/10 to fit the narrative ...

  • @Maverick21491
    @Maverick21491 Před měsícem +2

    Stroll -1 points , the fact that his team tried to blame this on Verstappen is just ...just....I dont have words for that ....

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Před měsícem +3

      Verstappen's response to the crash tells me how serious he took it lmao.

    • @huh4206
      @huh4206 Před měsícem

      also haas team principal blaming yuki too

  • @bil5479
    @bil5479 Před měsícem

    how do the points work in the sprint race ?

  • @geo.m1639
    @geo.m1639 Před měsícem +1

    How do I do the fan vote?

  • @AlexP-sh5vr
    @AlexP-sh5vr Před měsícem +17

    5/10 for Gasly who finished P13 and was driving an Alpine tractor without upgrades (unlike Ocon) is insanly harsh. He would have got a 7/10 if he was british and not french

    • @bill4665
      @bill4665 Před měsícem +1

      You do realise guys are both fans of non-British drivers. And regardless, we dont know how much of a difference those upgardes actually made. For all we know, it could have made little/no difference. So with that in mind, they gave him the correct rating.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před měsícem

      It's always cute watching people desperate to go "you overrate British drivers" when it's quite clear that out of desperation people underrate British drivers so they won't be accused of such

    • @alexp2327
      @alexp2327 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@bill4665yeah sure, having an heavier Alpine car must be better for Gasly 😂

    • @bill4665
      @bill4665 Před měsícem +1

      @@alexp2327 you do realise that just bcs its lighter, it doesnt make it 1 second a lap better. He was still comfortably behind Ocon. We don't know how the upgrade effects the cars performance. Just bcs its lighter, it doesnt make it quicker necessarily. You dont know what advantages they may have reduced to complete the weight reduction. Stop being oblivious to the most obvious flaws. For all we know, Gasly could beat Ocon by 15 seconds in Miami and all of sudden their back to square one. There was 0 definitive evidence that they were separated by the upgrade, as the gap wasnt significant, just consistant.

    • @AlexP-sh5vr
      @AlexP-sh5vr Před měsícem

      @@bill4665 what make you think that those upgrades were only weight related ?

  • @ronbally2312
    @ronbally2312 Před měsícem

    Which were the teams that had setup problems due to the sprint weekend and only FP1? Certainly not Red Bull nor McLaren, but Ferrari, Racing Bulls ???

  • @omeshsingh8091
    @omeshsingh8091 Před měsícem +3

    Did you guy take into consideration that Ocon had the upgrades on his car and Gasly didn't have upgrades?

  • @kimi88cz
    @kimi88cz Před měsícem +37

    Perez 7 just like Hamilton, doesn’t seem fair.

    • @christofferrsnes9508
      @christofferrsnes9508 Před měsícem +9

      Its fair imo, he got 3rd in both races and does what red bull expect of him. Maybe a 6 would be better?
      Hamilton 7/10 is perfect i think. Over achieving with the car in the sprint quali and sprint race, but under achieving in quali and feature race.
      Perfectly fair

    • @billypilgrim1
      @billypilgrim1 Před měsícem +6

      @@christofferrsnes9508 Im not a Pérez fanboy but didn't he was screwed by his own engineer and by the safety car?

    • @jazztryppyn8445
      @jazztryppyn8445 Před měsícem +6

      @@billypilgrim1 Should have been given an 8.

    • @Abu1421
      @Abu1421 Před měsícem +2

      Fr ,even though i am a checo fan he didnt have a bad race. He ended up on the podium which is great and maybe stratagy could have got him 2nd. I personally think they just dont like him tho

    • @brennanconway19
      @brennanconway19 Před měsícem

      @@christofferrsnes9508the only reason Hamilton got 2nd in the sprint is because Alonso helped him

  • @arposkraft3616
    @arposkraft3616 Před měsícem

    Unpopular opinion; without drs one may have less overtakes on average but more of those laplong wheel to wheel fights

  • @AaronShenghao
    @AaronShenghao Před měsícem

    To be honest, I think many forgot it's Zhou's first time race on the Shanghai Circuit. And for the first Chinese F1 driver on home Grand Prix, not crashing out is enough. (And thank god Sauber didn't f-ed up his car, imagine the outrage if he had engine trouble just like Bottas...)

  • @lochecec
    @lochecec Před měsícem

    24:25 it’s crazy how Perez said in Australia that max probably wouldn’t have one that race due to tire deg/low grip yet on another track low grip max still out paces everyone. I fully believe he would’ve won in Australia

  • @TheRaya09
    @TheRaya09 Před měsícem

    now i can see a world where nico hulkenberg warming the seat of kimi antonelli in mercedez.. he is good and he we'll accept a one year contract with extension as an option.

  • @GabPou87
    @GabPou87 Před měsícem +2

    Lance Stroll is the kid at school who gets pieces of eraser thrown at him

  • @Tyrellle
    @Tyrellle Před měsícem

    I didn’t mind Stroll as a driver. He’s had some really good days when he’s switched on but he has no pressure to perform while he’s driving for his father’s team. China proved this for everyone.

  • @nillieable
    @nillieable Před měsícem

    I think you guys have the most reasonable fanbase in the entire F1 podcast arena..

  • @gechuzhao2178
    @gechuzhao2178 Před měsícem

    7:22 I see what you did there lol

  • @michaelwilkie35
    @michaelwilkie35 Před měsícem +1

    The comment section is in for a wild ride here

  • @FarmerEnvoyXtreme
    @FarmerEnvoyXtreme Před měsícem +2

    12:42 for the best part of the video

  • @ludacrips76
    @ludacrips76 Před měsícem

    Next race I have to submit the Bottas traditions meme with the caption "submitting a 0/10 rating for Lance Stroll on Matt and Tommy's driver ratings poll".

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 Před měsícem

    I gave Valtteri extra points for his championship photo-bomb of his fellow Australian Danny Ricciardo.

  • @danielw9710
    @danielw9710 Před měsícem

    Why not do separate ratings for the sprint and race and then weight the sprint scores as less important at the end of the season?

  • @katief2806
    @katief2806 Před měsícem +4

    Why does Bottas get an actual score for DNFing, but Max got an N/A in Australia?

    • @hideouspatje
      @hideouspatje Před měsícem +2

      Because a 7 would increase bottas's average while a 7 for max would distort nax's average I'm guessing

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Před měsícem +1

      @@hideouspatje bottas actually had runtime, max had his issue right at the start. not much to comment about

    • @bill4665
      @bill4665 Před měsícem +1

      Bcs in Aus, Max didnt get a chance to show his race performance so essentially missed an entire session. Here tho, Bottas was racing comfortably in his position and showed 0 sign of losing while racing. So its significant enough to give him a rating.

    • @ryanshek4101
      @ryanshek4101 Před měsícem

      Because it is a Max fan boy page..

    • @bill4665
      @bill4665 Před měsícem

      @@ryanshek4101 Get a grip pal.

  • @Scavs_Inc
    @Scavs_Inc Před měsícem +2

    ‘Peres is doing what he needs to do’ let’s give him a 7.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před měsícem +1

      He finished behind a Mclaren and couldn't even get close to him in the last 10 laps. Solid weekend but he needs to be P2 in order to get an 8 or 9.