Ill be honest if I was to get a job like that Id actually bring one of those headlamps that you strap on your head because that would make things millions of times easier because you now got both hands free one to hold on to something and the other for actual operations
Elevator shafts are cool, but they are dangerous so be very careful. Do not attempt to play with them without permission or something because you can get hurt really bad always use caution.
I disagree. He’s going to get someone injured. You should not access an elevator cartop without an elevator license. There was no mention of engaging the top of car stop switch and verifying that the top of car stop switch works. What if the car takes off on you? Not a safe situation. This is incredibly dangerous.
@@Manco-gl9ol First of all, the power is off to the elevator. The elevator cannot move without power. Also, he's a firefighter. He has to be able to rescue people from elevators.
The general public does not need to use or be in possession of elevator door keys , speaking as a retired elevator mechanic state elevator inspector, also a violation of ASME code.
Hey guys…? I agree w/ the other mechanic, I am also IUEC Otis service mechanic. We realize u trying to help fellow firefighters. However this is actually very dangerous! You are supposed to give us opportunity to respond b4 u try to rescue. I have personally witnessed firefighters attempting to pick HW doors w/ the car in flight… causing entrapment bc they are simply not trained in actual procedure. Would u want 1 of us to attempt to operate your fire truck, hoses, or other equipment (at all)..? I think not! If u do not follow proper procedures u can actually make the situation worse. I am simply shocked to find all this info on CZcams. :(. As when we hire on w/ any elevator co, we are forced to sign sworn statement that we’ll never divulge what is referred to as “trade secrets”… We realize u trying to learn new things. But the fact that these vids are on here at all ( never mind PUBLIC for all the world to see!?) is simply unacceptable. Respectfully: PLEASE take this (and all others) down immediately. As licensed CCCM mechanics, we do have the right to instruct u to do so, and/or shut down & LOTO “any” means of conveyance (or practices thereon) we deem to be “unsafe”. This vid (+ others like it) are just about some of the worst things that fall into this category.. Again no disrespect! But please, take them down! Would u like us to post videos on how to do the more intricate procedures of “your” job…? I think not! - IUEC Sister, Local 8, SF
This comment is a little old but I’ll respond to it. In bigger cities it might be ok to wait for an elevator technician to respond but in my area we are always told it will be an hour and a half to two hours before a technician will be on scene. That’s unacceptable when most people are going to be panicking in the elevator and could cause the problem to be worse. What you and your field should be pushing for is proper training for first responders. Y’all should offer the training for how we can properly get someone out of an elevator. We don’t care about your trade secrets. We are there to help people and that’s what the public expects us to do. Not standing around waiting for a technician to get on scene.
@@elevator_satellite I know it's just a drop key. But it's complicated to open a door with it. In Europe we use the triangle key. Using a triangle key is very easy but still very safe as the keyholes are often so small that only a triangular key will fit.
@@damian-luginbuehl Yes I agree, triangle keys are easier and more universal. Here in my country the triangle key is also standard for hoistway doors...
@@damian-luginbuehl the Westinghouse/Schindler keys seem pretty simple too, they are just the half moon key that can be pushed in and release the lock.
Great demo, I'm not a technician, however I study elevators and I've noticed some don't have the hole on certain floors, it's weird and would problem make it hard on the people who might to open it when there's an emergency.
Whoever is stuck in the elevator has to open the door wide enough in order to depress the release plate on the inner part of the door(s). It does need to be far. 2-3 inches is enough to get your hand and press the release down
If you need this video for information you shouldn’t mess with elevators. IUEC pride. Firefighters wait as long as you can for elevator constructors a) they can usually get people out faster b) cost less damage c) usually they are in area and can be at elevator before or within a minute if you guys.
Yeah, we try to wait but the situation dictates our methods. If there’s someone coding inside, we aren’t gonna wait for a technician/repair person with an unreasonable eta to arrive;we’re going to try and get the doors open, which may include causing damage.
Really good instructions, Pal. I couldn't understand how the flexible key works. Thanks for explaining and demonstrating.
Thanks man. Was able to pop our elevator door with a site hanger to retrieve some keys that fell down the shaft.
Ill be honest if I was to get a job like that Id actually bring one of those headlamps that you strap on your head because that would make things millions of times easier because you now got both hands free one to hold on to something and the other for actual operations
Elevator shafts are cool, but they are dangerous so be very careful. Do not attempt to play with them without permission or something because you can get hurt really bad always use caution.
Top notch instructor right there
I disagree. He’s going to get someone injured. You should not access an elevator cartop without an elevator license. There was no mention of engaging the top of car stop switch and verifying that the top of car stop switch works. What if the car takes off on you? Not a safe situation. This is incredibly dangerous.
This man is an idiot, a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing, his ignorance is going to get someone hurt
@@Manco-gl9ol First of all, the power is off to the elevator. The elevator cannot move without power. Also, he's a firefighter. He has to be able to rescue people from elevators.
The general public does not need to use or be in possession of elevator door keys , speaking as a retired elevator mechanic state elevator inspector, also a violation of ASME code.
How many floors does that elevator you did the demo on serve Im just curious
I’ve seen in an elevator shaft before
Hey guys…? I agree w/ the other mechanic, I am also IUEC Otis service mechanic. We realize u trying to help fellow firefighters. However this is actually very dangerous! You are supposed to give us opportunity to respond b4 u try to rescue. I have personally witnessed firefighters attempting to pick HW doors w/ the car in flight… causing entrapment bc they are simply not trained in actual procedure.
Would u want 1 of us to attempt to operate your fire truck, hoses, or other equipment (at all)..? I think not!
If u do not follow proper procedures u can actually make the situation worse.
I am simply shocked to find all this info on CZcams. :(. As when we hire on w/ any elevator co, we are forced to sign sworn statement that we’ll never divulge what is referred to as “trade secrets”…
We realize u trying to learn new things.
But the fact that these vids are on here at all ( never mind PUBLIC for all the world to see!?) is simply unacceptable.
Respectfully: PLEASE take this (and all others) down immediately. As licensed CCCM mechanics, we do have the right to instruct u to do so, and/or shut down & LOTO “any” means of conveyance (or practices thereon) we deem to be “unsafe”.
This vid (+ others like it) are just about some of the worst things that fall into this category..
Again no disrespect! But please, take them down! Would u like us to post videos on how to do the more intricate procedures of “your” job…? I think not!
- IUEC Sister, Local 8, SF
This comment is a little old but I’ll respond to it. In bigger cities it might be ok to wait for an elevator technician to respond but in my area we are always told it will be an hour and a half to two hours before a technician will be on scene. That’s unacceptable when most people are going to be panicking in the elevator and could cause the problem to be worse.
What you and your field should be pushing for is proper training for first responders. Y’all should offer the training for how we can properly get someone out of an elevator. We don’t care about your trade secrets. We are there to help people and that’s what the public expects us to do. Not standing around waiting for a technician to get on scene.
The most complicated key ever. Great video! I like elevators.
It's just a drop key.
@@elevator_satellite I know it's just a drop key. But it's complicated to open a door with it. In Europe we use the triangle key. Using a triangle key is very easy but still very safe as the keyholes are often so small that only a triangular key will fit.
@@damian-luginbuehl Yes I agree, triangle keys are easier and more universal. Here in my country the triangle key is also standard for hoistway doors...
@@damian-luginbuehl the Westinghouse/Schindler keys seem pretty simple too, they are just the half moon key that can be pushed in and release the lock.
a nice how to own a Montgomery Vector
I like Vectors.
@@ex5138 glad u do
Great demo, I'm not a technician, however I study elevators and I've noticed some don't have the hole on certain floors, it's weird and would problem make it hard on the people who might to open it when there's an emergency.
Whoever is stuck in the elevator has to open the door wide enough in order to depress the release plate on the inner part of the door(s). It does need to be far. 2-3 inches is enough to get your hand and press the release down
@@SpaceMountainLarry That's true.
Then a really strange flat key is used. It's awkward because you have to guess where to insert it.
@@ex5138 Yeah I've seen those before, it's kind of ridiculous, why not just add a hole on every landing door?
@@Jamestube8439 I know, it would be much quicker and easier with a regular drop key.
Or if the door is still powered
If you need this video for information you shouldn’t mess with elevators. IUEC pride. Firefighters wait as long as you can for elevator constructors a) they can usually get people out faster b) cost less damage c) usually they are in area and can be at elevator before or within a minute if you guys.
Yeah, we try to wait but the situation dictates our methods. If there’s someone coding inside, we aren’t gonna wait for a technician/repair person with an unreasonable eta to arrive;we’re going to try and get the doors open, which may include causing damage.
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