Right lmao like wow, dude. I would hate going to the movies with someone like this guy. Pointing out every stupid little detail and so-called “mistake”. Like STFU and WATCH THE MOVIE, or F*CK OFF… Seriously.
What got me - which was such a simple oversight was the American flags - to a Oppenheimer 1945 post-drop speech - had 50 stars. In '45 there were only 48 stars on the flag of the U.S.A. as Hawaii and Alaska didn't reach statehood and their subsequent stars on the flag until the late 50s. Good eye on spotting the nixie tubes!
I mean, didn't Christopher Nolan's 'Dunkirk' have 21st century building facades in the town's scenes, modern shipping container cranes, a modern steelmill & its chimneys, and 1960s-era train carriages?
As a kid in the 70's messing with electronics I got some of those from a surplus shop. Couldn't get them to work or understand them. No internet back then 😳😳 would be so easy now.
@@clown134 anyone who wants to keep at least 3/4 of their IQ points should stay far away from that movie so I'm not sure who the intended audience would be.
They have a five minutes preview of the movie, and in it they were talking about Soviet spying. So, maybe the movie doesn't stop in 1945 with the trinity test.
@@Alexander-the-ok I'm watching CBS Sunday Morning's video, called "Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb." Here's the description **SPOILER ALERT** "In his latest film, "Oppenheimer," director Christopher Nolan examines the efforts of physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer in the race to build the atomic bomb that ended World War II. What happened after the war proved to be an entirely different power struggle, as Oppenheimer was accused of being a Russian agent...." So, it seems very likely that the movie will go beyond the trinity test, all the way to the red scare. *OR*, knowing Nolan, he will splice up the movie chronologically, maybe even open the movie in the future, and then we go back to see how everything ended up to where the movie begins. Hahahaha.
Film makers dont do their research. In the dire film, First Man, some of the digital displays in the Apollo command module were red LED instead of blue/green electroluminescent. How the hell they got that wrong is a mystery. NO command module ever had red displays like that.
The first stable and well-functioning nixie tube construction was invented by Haydu Brothers Laboratories, which was founded by two Hungarian brothers namely George Haydu and Zoltan Haydu in 1936. They fled to America during WW2 and their company was bought by the Burroughs company who started mass producing nixies in 1955. The nixies in "Oppenheimer" are most likely in12 tubes because they have the flipped number 2/5. The Russians however started producing nixies tube after 1950. So yeah, nixie tubes could have been used during the Trinity test, but not these tubes.
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" Words that Oppenheimer would not speak until his bbc interview in the 60s His statement immediately after the trinity test "Well that worked" Lol
I'm not sure tbh. I don't think digit displays were even used at all in the '40's as the hardware to drive them barely existed. If there was indeed a big dramatic countdown, it may have just been a mechanical stopwatch.
@@SomeKidFromBritainwell, depends on what this timer was for. Was it used as part of the timing system in the tests or the actual weapon? Or was it just for humans to understand a count down? If it's just humans it could have easily just been setup like a stop watch with the hundredths of a second dial like used in old sporting events. Idk. But them tubes sure are pretty.
There is a 5 part docuseries on youtube called "nuclear secrets". I think its part 2 and 3 that made Oppenheimer unwatchable for me. I truelly dont understand decisions made..
CZcams: "Ah, I see you're an Alex the OK fan, cool... I'MMA REALLY NEED YOU TO WATCH THIS SHORT HE MADE ABOUT A MOVIE THAT CAME OUT A YEAR AGO. HAVE YOU WATCHED IT YET? I NEED YOU TO WATCH THE SHORT.
Oppenheimer may have struggled morally or ethically with what he helped develop, but any objective review of the historical facts surrounding the deployment of Little Boy and Fat Man must inevitably reach the conclusion that, as horrific as their effects were, they saved millions of lives. Those weapons are the only reasons Japanese culture still exists.
The CZcamsr Shaun has a 2.5 hour video explaining why this is not the case which genuinely changed my mind on the topic. We nuked them because we wanted to. Not because we had to for any strategic purpose.
@@Frommerman Not even 20 minutes in and we have some very selective, and deceptive, quotes used to appeal to authority. "A general said it was unnecessary 20 years later," is not an actual argument. Reviewing internal Japanese documents, those that for various reasons survived or were chosen to survive for self-serving reasons, does not make that information available at the time the decisions were made by US leaders. Lastly for this comment, the Japanese still refused to surrender after no less than 60 cities were firebombed into ash. It was the additional industrial damage of the atomic bombs, combined with the sudden shock of having cities vanish under single bombers, that brought half the Japanese leadership to the point of surrender - while the other half tried to murder their divine emperor to avoid surrender! The only alternative to invasion or the bombs was continued blockade and firebombing, which would have continued to slaughter far more civilians. The actual human cost of this solution is massively, naively downplayed by that CZcamsr.
@@asureaskieI mean hell, more people died in the fire bombing of Tokyo. But add on that many Japanese civilians threw themselves off cliffs to avoid being 'tortured' by the 'evil' Americans during our campaign in the Pacific - the civilian death toll would have been so much higher if we had to invade their main island. That's not even including military deaths. The nukes saved many many innocent lives.
@@asureaskie Every one of those issues is addressed by the video, so I'm assuming you got as far as the first thing you disagreed with and turned it off. It's far, far more than just "a general said we didn't need to do it." The invasion would have been catastrophic for both sides...which is why it wasn't going to happen, and everyone knew it. Japanese leadership, including the Emperor, were holding out for Soviet interdiction in their talks with the US, hoping for better terms than immediate unconditional surrender. Because of some happenings which are described in detail in the video, they didn't know (or were in denial) about the impending Soviet declaration of war against them. The argument is that once the Soviets entered the war against them, and once Japanese leadership knew that, their only hope for better terms evaporates and they have no choice but to surrender unconditionally regardless of the bomb. Continuing the war at that point guaranteed every one of them, especially the Emperor, died horribly in the near future. Surrender at least had the chance of preserving the Emperor (as indeed it did), as the Americans still needed him to pacify the populace and military. Please watch the rest of the video. It's that long for a reason.
@@p0xus Imagine that two bombs out of 3 (3rd one wasnt even ready yet), that didnt even destroyed their intended targets, made more impact then destruction of japan industrial and agricultural base in mere months by never ending incendiary bombardments. Crazy, right? Japanese already saw their cities evaporate in flame tornado before, not a new sight. They were almost certain that it was just another bomb raid initially.
apparently, doing only a minutes research, they were developed in chicago in the late 20's by a man named Henninger, maybe the movie used russian made ones for this because they couldn't get original parts. But i'm sure they were easily obtainable by US Gov for use as displays, seeing as gas stations were using them in the early 40's.
I made this video as a silly joke, so don’t read too much into it but I’ve never seen a photo of a nixie tube pre-1950s, short of experimental setups in a lab. For gas station displays maybe you are thinking of numitrons?
Genuinely was distracted by the nixie tube clock when I watched the film. Didn’t know the detail about them being from the 50’s or those specific ones being from the ussr, it just seemed out of place
@@Alexander-the-ok’Yo Stalin, we’re testing this secret bomb you don’t know about and we need a countdown display.’ ‘Da comrade, we are years ahead of the public, have our electric tube lights. By the way, what exactly is this bomb you speak of?’
@@mahekorvenoges550 ancient technology usually doesn’t scream precision and when I’m thinking about nuclear bombs the last thing I want is equipment that isn’t precise.
*gets up and storms out of the cinema ranting and raving about a hexagonal 2*
Right lmao like wow, dude. I would hate going to the movies with someone like this guy. Pointing out every stupid little detail and so-called “mistake”. Like STFU and WATCH THE MOVIE, or F*CK OFF… Seriously.
Quite right. Send them a stiff telegram of complaint.
I am become Death, destroyer of historically inaccurate clocks
...creator of anachronistic...
What got me - which was such a simple oversight was the American flags - to a Oppenheimer 1945 post-drop speech - had 50 stars. In '45 there were only 48 stars on the flag of the U.S.A. as Hawaii and Alaska didn't reach statehood and their subsequent stars on the flag until the late 50s. Good eye on spotting the nixie tubes!
Noobs. Worst movie ever
I mean, didn't Christopher Nolan's 'Dunkirk' have 21st century building facades in the town's scenes, modern shipping container cranes, a modern steelmill & its chimneys, and 1960s-era train carriages?
Unwatchable, immersion absolutely destroyed. Now if you don't mind I'm going to watch Michael Bays 100% historically accurate documentary Pearl Harbor
Not to mention the Spanish 109's with Merlin engines
Thanks yt for recommending me this 7 months later
Sloppenheimer lmao
ngl im tryina get some sloppenheimer
Good one! People are going to be wondering why I'm going to be laughing at random all week!
Why not both? Barbie and Oppie can be friends ❤
My wife refuses to come with me and see the Barbie movie
@@Alexander-the-okunbelievable, some people don’t appreciate the work of art that is Barbenheimer 😂…it’s like Doom and Animal Crossing all over again!
Plus, both their products were initially released in Japan...
@@TheNefastor
Ouch.
@TheNefastor Wait, Oppenhaimer was Japanese??
[Enters Japanese-run anime chatroom to find out more]
1945 electronics are expensive
As a kid in the 70's messing with electronics I got some of those from a surplus shop. Couldn't get them to work or understand them. No internet back then 😳😳 would be so easy now.
I wouldn’t even be able to begin using these without the internet
_[Laughing with my dad, a 1980.-graduated Soviet republic's video engineer]_
Barbie also faces an ethical dilemma so definitely go and see that.
What dilemma being the worst movie ever made or just almost the worst movie ever made. 2nd to birdemic lol
@@carboncollapse8435 I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy it. What made you go in the first place?
@@clarewillison9379 my daughter likes barbie dolls and I hadn't been to a drive in movie theater in a long time.
@@carboncollapse8435have you considered that you might not be the intended target audience
@@clown134 anyone who wants to keep at least 3/4 of their IQ points should stay far away from that movie so I'm not sure who the intended audience would be.
Stoppenheimer with the out of period set pieces. Good catch bro!
They have a five minutes preview of the movie, and in it they were talking about Soviet spying. So, maybe the movie doesn't stop in 1945 with the trinity test.
I kind of hope this turns out to be from a scene set a couple of decades later in the soviet union. It’ll be really funny if I’ve got this wrong!
@@Alexander-the-ok I'm watching CBS Sunday Morning's video, called "Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb." Here's the description **SPOILER ALERT**
"In his latest film, "Oppenheimer," director Christopher Nolan examines the efforts of physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer in the race to build the atomic bomb that ended World War II. What happened after the war proved to be an entirely different power struggle, as Oppenheimer was accused of being a Russian agent...."
So, it seems very likely that the movie will go beyond the trinity test, all the way to the red scare. *OR*, knowing Nolan, he will splice up the movie chronologically, maybe even open the movie in the future, and then we go back to see how everything ended up to where the movie begins. Hahahaha.
@@Alexander-the-ok Pretty sure it's not supposed to be the SU because the writing on the device should be Cyrillic.
You haven't even seen it yet. What a stupid video.
it wasn't, but this scene specifically was from the 1945 trinity test so yes the nixie tubes are out of place.
I thought you said "WOAH!" at RDJ having aged so much lmao
Nixie tubes: last time I saw one was 1977 at a college open house. I had no idea how they worked. 2023 and. I have little idea of how anything works.
Spoiler Alert - the bomb blows up.
The flags also have 50 stars rather than 48.
Literally unwatchable.
Film makers dont do their research. In the dire film, First Man, some of the digital displays in the Apollo command module were red LED instead of blue/green electroluminescent. How the hell they got that wrong is a mystery. NO command module ever had red displays like that.
The advisors knew. The also know how many people among their audience are going to be triggered by it.
I bet the Barbie movie is more realistic. 👁️👃👁️🙏
The first stable and well-functioning nixie tube construction was invented by Haydu Brothers Laboratories, which was founded by two Hungarian brothers namely George Haydu and Zoltan Haydu in 1936.
They fled to America during WW2 and their company was bought by the
Burroughs company who started mass producing nixies in 1955. The nixies in "Oppenheimer" are most likely in12 tubes because they have the flipped number 2/5. The Russians however started producing nixies tube after 1950. So yeah, nixie tubes could have been used during the Trinity test, but not these tubes.
I literally tried watching this short but CZcams crashed on me :(
Fucking love this as a tube nerd IN-8s do look cool tho
Also a HF radio receiver, B-41 possibly, what is that doing there?
wow...this ruins everything and shatters my suspension of disbelief...
Glad I'm not the only one to notice this.
Turns out the flags didn't have 50 stars back then either.
Hey now, you can see both Barbie and Oppenheimer, they aren't mutually exclusive XD. Nuclear physicist Barbie makes a cameo im sure.
Those tubes were invented long time before top secret duhhh
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"
Words that Oppenheimer would not speak until his bbc interview in the 60s
His statement immediately after the trinity test
"Well that worked"
Lol
So what did they use? those little flipping flat slabs of bakelite that had numbers printed on?
be a good question for Franlab
came up empty on the Internet
That's nothing, Indiana Jones's rocket sled countdown clock in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull a had huge red LED display in the early 50s.
I was hoping it could possibly be Dekatron tubes but they werent invented until 1949 DANG IT. It is cool though.
What could they have used that would have been more accurate?
I'm not sure tbh. I don't think digit displays were even used at all in the '40's as the hardware to drive them barely existed. If there was indeed a big dramatic countdown, it may have just been a mechanical stopwatch.
@@Alexander-the-ok Just a guess, but perhaps rotating disks with numbers on them? Like at on the bombe at bletchley park?
@@SomeKidFromBritainwell, depends on what this timer was for. Was it used as part of the timing system in the tests or the actual weapon? Or was it just for humans to understand a count down? If it's just humans it could have easily just been setup like a stop watch with the hundredths of a second dial like used in old sporting events.
Idk. But them tubes sure are pretty.
@@SomeKidFromBritain mechanical gauges? like clocks
As as I'm aware everything was analogue prior to Apple producing the iPhone.
There is a 5 part docuseries on youtube called "nuclear secrets". I think its part 2 and 3 that made Oppenheimer unwatchable for me. I truelly dont understand decisions made..
THAT FOOL!
CZcams: "Ah, I see you're an Alex the OK fan, cool...
I'MMA REALLY NEED YOU TO WATCH THIS SHORT HE MADE ABOUT A MOVIE THAT CAME OUT A YEAR AGO.
HAVE YOU WATCHED IT YET? I NEED YOU TO WATCH THE SHORT.
Oppenheimer may have struggled morally or ethically with what he helped develop, but any objective review of the historical facts surrounding the deployment of Little Boy and Fat Man must inevitably reach the conclusion that, as horrific as their effects were, they saved millions of lives. Those weapons are the only reasons Japanese culture still exists.
The CZcamsr Shaun has a 2.5 hour video explaining why this is not the case which genuinely changed my mind on the topic. We nuked them because we wanted to. Not because we had to for any strategic purpose.
@@Frommerman Not even 20 minutes in and we have some very selective, and deceptive, quotes used to appeal to authority. "A general said it was unnecessary 20 years later," is not an actual argument. Reviewing internal Japanese documents, those that for various reasons survived or were chosen to survive for self-serving reasons, does not make that information available at the time the decisions were made by US leaders. Lastly for this comment, the Japanese still refused to surrender after no less than 60 cities were firebombed into ash. It was the additional industrial damage of the atomic bombs, combined with the sudden shock of having cities vanish under single bombers, that brought half the Japanese leadership to the point of surrender - while the other half tried to murder their divine emperor to avoid surrender!
The only alternative to invasion or the bombs was continued blockade and firebombing, which would have continued to slaughter far more civilians. The actual human cost of this solution is massively, naively downplayed by that CZcamsr.
@@asureaskieI mean hell, more people died in the fire bombing of Tokyo.
But add on that many Japanese civilians threw themselves off cliffs to avoid being 'tortured' by the 'evil' Americans during our campaign in the Pacific - the civilian death toll would have been so much higher if we had to invade their main island. That's not even including military deaths.
The nukes saved many many innocent lives.
@@asureaskie Every one of those issues is addressed by the video, so I'm assuming you got as far as the first thing you disagreed with and turned it off. It's far, far more than just "a general said we didn't need to do it."
The invasion would have been catastrophic for both sides...which is why it wasn't going to happen, and everyone knew it. Japanese leadership, including the Emperor, were holding out for Soviet interdiction in their talks with the US, hoping for better terms than immediate unconditional surrender. Because of some happenings which are described in detail in the video, they didn't know (or were in denial) about the impending Soviet declaration of war against them. The argument is that once the Soviets entered the war against them, and once Japanese leadership knew that, their only hope for better terms evaporates and they have no choice but to surrender unconditionally regardless of the bomb. Continuing the war at that point guaranteed every one of them, especially the Emperor, died horribly in the near future. Surrender at least had the chance of preserving the Emperor (as indeed it did), as the Americans still needed him to pacify the populace and military.
Please watch the rest of the video. It's that long for a reason.
@@p0xus Imagine that two bombs out of 3 (3rd one wasnt even ready yet), that didnt even destroyed their intended targets, made more impact then destruction of japan industrial and agricultural base in mere months by never ending incendiary bombardments. Crazy, right? Japanese already saw their cities evaporate in flame tornado before, not a new sight. They were almost certain that it was just another bomb raid initially.
That old film where they blow up the heavy water plant in Norway is a bit off too!
Barbie movie I was pretty immersed into
c'mon,maaaaaan....
That was funny 😂
I picked up on that too!
53:00 correct about different ethnicities
apparently, doing only a minutes research, they were developed in chicago in the late 20's by a man named Henninger, maybe the movie used russian made ones for this because they couldn't get original parts. But i'm sure they were easily obtainable by US Gov for use as displays, seeing as gas stations were using them in the early 40's.
I made this video as a silly joke, so don’t read too much into it but I’ve never seen a photo of a nixie tube pre-1950s, short of experimental setups in a lab. For gas station displays maybe you are thinking of numitrons?
lmao
Can Shanny please do the Fresh and Fit Delusion Calculation on air
Genuinely was distracted by the nixie tube clock when I watched the film.
Didn’t know the detail about them being from the 50’s or those specific ones being from the ussr, it just seemed out of place
How did Oppenheimer and the Barbie movie get connected? Any reference to one movie seems to include the other - what's up with that?
Maybe Burroughs developed them early but Klaus Fuchs stole the design then Stalin's peeps made the INs then we stole a batch of them😂
C'mon dude, it's a movie
Nolan is like everyone in Hollywood, ever : claims authenticity, but always succumbs to the "rule of cool". Movies are lies, after all.
u could always pirate the movie. I would never pay that kind of money to go see a movie in theaters
Implying the government wasn't years ahead of the public and wasn't open to taking products from any source possible.
The government did not develop fancy lights and keep them secret for years lol
‘We need to display a countdown. Darn, we dont possibly have that kind of technology! Better get Stalin on the phone!’
@@Alexander-the-ok "Yo lil Oppie you lookin fo some nixie tubes?"
@@Alexander-the-ok’Yo Stalin, we’re testing this secret bomb you don’t know about and we need a countdown display.’
‘Da comrade, we are years ahead of the public, have our electric tube lights. By the way, what exactly is this bomb you speak of?’
@@mahekorvenoges550 ancient technology usually doesn’t scream precision and when I’m thinking about nuclear bombs the last thing I want is equipment that isn’t precise.
Those Russians ..always messing with the weather!!
“Literally unwatchable”? Only if you have A. No eyes. B. No electricity.
To bad they cast Matt Damon - his acting is awful
It was a great movie
Well that’s that movie ruined then. Thanks😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boycott.
😆
That's it! Movie Ruined! :P To be fair, historical inaccuracies in films and shows annoy me more than they should.
There is no ethical dilemma to the creation of atomic weaponry.
Oh. The nitpicker come out of their holes....
Like all CN films, oppenheimer is also shit.
One of the most boring movies of all time.
Asperger intensifies
terrible movie anyways
Nixi tubes were available for government military use way before hoi polloi could buy them........
Soviet ones were most certainly not
Most of Nolans movies' are boring
You are correct. Massively overrated.
Boy I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder 🤓
yawn
lmao