Druids For All Races... Why 10.2 Is The Best Chance We'll Ever Get

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • Head to squarespace.com/taliesinevitel to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALIESINEVITEL.
    World of Warcraft Dragonflight Patch 10.2 is the best chance we will ever get at druids for every class in the game. Taliesin takes a looka t what we know about the Winter Patch (which will soon be revealed) and why it's now or never
    ART
    Satsuki Blood Elf Feral Druid
    kagesatsuki.wordpress.com/202...
    VenneccaBlind Blood Elf Bear Form
    www.deviantart.com/venneccabl...
    Starnob Forsaken Feral Druid
    www.deviantart.com/starnob/ar...
    Draenei Guardian Druid
    dancinghare.wordpress.com/201...
    ► Our Second Channel: / channel
    ► Twitch: / taliesinandevitel
    ► Taliesin & Evitel Twitter: / taliesinevitel
    ► Taliesin & Evitel Patreon: / taliesinandevitel
    ► T&E Merchandise: taliesin-evitel.creator-sprin...
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:51 Druids For All!
    08:44 The Lore Problem
    11:43 The Form Problem
    12:29 Human Druids
    12:42 Blood Elf Druids
    13:51 Orc Druids
    16:59 Void Elf Druids
    18:42 Vulpera Druids
    20:07 Forsaken Druids
    21:04 Pandaren Druids
    21:43 Nightborne Druids
    22:16 Dwarf Druids
    22:56 Dark Iron Druids
    23:23 Draenei Druids
    24:20 Ad
    26:19 Mech Suits
    26:53 Mecha-Gnome Druids
    27:25 Gnome Druids
    27:54 Goblin Druids
  • Hry

Komentáře • 1,3K

  • @CrabCrow
    @CrabCrow Před 11 měsíci +153

    20:35 You were so close to embracing the coolest theme for Forsaken druids. Druids of Decay, where all their forms are mushroom themed because that's a natural force in the world.

    • @tftg458
      @tftg458 Před 11 měsíci +28

      Circle of spores druids around the world rejoice!

    • @Lockecole81
      @Lockecole81 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Smaller version of the fungal giants from outland for a tank form? :P

    • @dieselsandwich42
      @dieselsandwich42 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Oh I like this one a lot

    • @wraithflaire1639
      @wraithflaire1639 Před 11 měsíci

      If I hadn't drop WoW already that would have done it.

    • @Lockecole81
      @Lockecole81 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@wraithflaire1639 How come? Don't like the idea of all classes being available to all races?
      I think decay as a theme for undead works very well as it's a very important part of nature, if things didn't decay, it'd be pretty bad :P

  • @PazOfficial
    @PazOfficial Před 11 měsíci +84

    Missed opportunity to model the Pandaren forms off of the August Celestials. Chi-Ji, the Red Crane (travel form), Niuzao, the Black Ox (bear form), Xuen, the White Tiger (cat form), and Yu'lon, the Jade Serpent (flight form).
    C'mon Tali, that was an easy win. How'd ya miss that!?

    • @SylvieMoon
      @SylvieMoon Před 10 měsíci +2

      maybe the appearance will be in the shop

    • @isawilseabrooks
      @isawilseabrooks Před 7 měsíci

      Pandaren should've had druid from day one T_T.

  • @solry9099
    @solry9099 Před 11 měsíci +177

    Feels weird applying actual humanoids as forms for a class that is all about nature. Orc shapeshifting to arakkoa is like suggesting Night Elves shapeshifting to Tauren.

    • @warling5042
      @warling5042 Před 11 měsíci +28

      ye4ah, half of these are terrible suggestions, especially the ogre one haha xD. Like why would a belf druid turn into a phoenix and not a dragonhawk???

    • @veronique9823
      @veronique9823 Před 11 měsíci +9

      tbf Zandalari Troll moonkin form is essentially the corrupted arrakkoa from HFC

    • @camaradacomissario9641
      @camaradacomissario9641 Před 11 měsíci

      There are humans concerned about nature in the World of Warcraft.

    • @solry9099
      @solry9099 Před 10 měsíci

      @@camaradacomissario9641 epic brain fart man.

    • @Norex7777777
      @Norex7777777 Před 10 měsíci

      zandalari already use the same rig and like 99% of the model

  • @davykuro
    @davykuro Před 11 měsíci +42

    For goblin as druid, we may have a hint in Dragonflight : in Valdrakken we have a female goblin from Venture Co. Who have the duty to make a report about ressources in Dragon isles but she was moved by the sights that she's not want Goblins destroy this nature. Maybe she will be the first druid and will start a ecology market in WoW.

  • @Sharjo29
    @Sharjo29 Před 11 měsíci +323

    I feel like Void Elves should be a traditional take; the standard animals, but Void-twisted in some ways. Multi-eyed tentacle bears are a must

    • @SleepySloth2705
      @SleepySloth2705 Před 11 měsíci +36

      Their moonkin form could be a Faceless One

    • @iananelson8256
      @iananelson8256 Před 11 měsíci +11

      Sign me up for multi-eyed tentacle bears!

    • @marvelfan281
      @marvelfan281 Před 11 měsíci +18

      Really, I think Void Elves and Blood Elves forms should mirror each other. Blood Elves have sun-based forms and Void Elves have more moon or void-based forms.

    • @Dante1920
      @Dante1920 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I like the idea of Cat Form being one of those Void flavored warp stalkers.

    • @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660
      @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I don’t like Druid’s

  • @TheSpoegefugl
    @TheSpoegefugl Před 11 měsíci +144

    I feel like, when it comes to dwarves, your yeti suggestion would function much better as a balance form rather than a bear form

  • @Khadharphak
    @Khadharphak Před 11 měsíci +51

    Sorry but as much as I love the kul tiran and zandalari druids being different things, I do love the whole "how can we make a bear into this humanoid race?" thing going on with traditional druids, and I think goblins are perfect for that. You give them varying shades of green or browny-green fur, with colourful spiky hairdos and coiffed styles, they of course sport those big old goblin ears, and their snouts take on a slightly more goblinesque shape as well, smoother and more sharklike, and they all sport big pointy goblin grins. And then on top of that, you deck them out in the scrap armour style they love, I feel like in the animal forms they'd be real dirty fighters, equipping their animal forms with extra stuff to put the hurt on their enemies harder.
    Bear would have big leather bracers with heavy metal strips like splintmail for blocking, and maybe some on the hind legs with kneepads.
    The cat could be bandaged up past the elbow and fitted with metal-clawed gauntlets to add that extra hurt over their natural claws, and metal rings outfitted with hooked spikes to turn their tail into a horrible flail type thing.
    Travel/flight forms *obviously* have a set of driving goggles and a scarf.
    Aquatic form's an alligator, with scuba goggles and more scrap armour round the wrists and on it's back.
    And moonkin's more crowlike, with all sorts of good luck charms dangling off the patchwork bits of scrap armour it's wearing, this moonkin stuff's screwy, ya know? Goblin's gotta lean on ol' lady luck to make this kooky caw caw stuff go right.

    • @tnecniw
      @tnecniw Před 11 měsíci +3

      Is it weird that I also imagine the druid forms with like... machinery / chemicals added?
      Or is that a bit too much into forsaken?

    • @Khadharphak
      @Khadharphak Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@tnecniw Totally yeah, I could see the travel forms maybe having the classic goblin rockets strapped to them, for "extra speed" and perhaps cat and bear having vials of anticoagulants to improve their bleeds. I feel forsaken druids would lean more heavily into the natural rot and decay of life and not lean so heavily on their alchemical side.

    • @tnecniw
      @tnecniw Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Khadharphak Tho it would be badass to go into the apotharcy side or at the least have that as an skin option for forsaken druids.

    • @TheRaimundis
      @TheRaimundis Před 11 měsíci +8

      Aquatic form goblin shark, anything less is just a missed opportunity

    • @Khadharphak
      @Khadharphak Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@TheRaimundis I didn't even think of that, brilliant

  • @GenuineJulian
    @GenuineJulian Před 11 měsíci +107

    Side note for the Vulpera: Hyaenas are not dogs, they aren't even canines. They're actually more closely related to cats, which works better for the cat form, but Hyaenidae is its own family.. ok carry on.

    • @Zectifin
      @Zectifin Před 11 měsíci +13

      i just want a bunch of foxy forms. fox cat. fox bear. hell for the boomkin do something similar to the zandalari, take the arrokoa rigging and have the model be based on the slyvern.

    • @animusqt
      @animusqt Před 11 měsíci

      Canines are wolves and dogs lol if it's related to cats it's felines just wanna correct that part

    • @alexanderclark7916
      @alexanderclark7916 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah mate, let me just hop off my dimension travelling dragon I got from killing a world ending dragon with all my blue friends to explain how those furry people aren't actually related to dogs :)

    • @GaleHUN
      @GaleHUN Před 10 měsíci

      Yeen science about the funny giggle frens

    • @calamity0.o
      @calamity0.o Před 10 měsíci

      I could see hyaena for feral vulpera, with big fox ears added. What other predators exist in their home zone? The scaled lizard/carapace things in the zone could be their bear form.

  • @Juniper_Rose
    @Juniper_Rose Před 11 měsíci +78

    I would love the idea of Druids coming about the same way Blood Elf Paladins did; some greater entity (Cenarius) deciding "I am not abandoning them. I am going to save them". That was one of my favorite parts of the Blood Knight questline; finding out that the Naaru was not "trapped"; it was trying to purge and clean them.
    I could see Cenarius pulling for that. Yeah, the Undead or Goblins or even Dwarves and Gnomes are probably antithetical to the Druidic ways, but what better reason than for Cenarius to decide "No, I am not turning my back on them".

  • @Jucimon
    @Jucimon Před 11 měsíci +116

    I like to imagine the animal forms that the Draenei would adopt as ghostly forms of the extinct animals of Argus. Draenei druids would be preservers of the spirits of the fauna and flora of Argus.

    • @nigelhirth2181
      @nigelhirth2181 Před 11 měsíci +9

      That would be fantastic!

    • @cxfxcdude
      @cxfxcdude Před 11 měsíci +4

      Lore loving Draenei stand here: yes please…also please stop cutting onions under my eyes

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Since we're likely going back to Argus in 10.1.7 for the Draenei/Man'ari questline:
      I want to see them pop to Eredath at some point and take some of the native species back with them too. Talbuk, Marsuul, Mana Ray, Panthara. And let them loose in the Azuremyst Isles so the populations can grow and it can become like a mini-Argus!
      I really hope they invite the Krokul back with them too.

  • @Jobjobbable
    @Jobjobbable Před 11 měsíci +25

    For goblins I always thought it would make more sense if we got the gil goblins as the main connection to druidism.
    So nazjatar wildlife as their forms, and gil goblin customization for goblins aswell

  • @Snuzzled
    @Snuzzled Před 11 měsíci +6

    Nightborne already have druid forms: when you go into Suramar as a druid in form, your form changes to a disguised one. They already exist.

  • @Tyindris
    @Tyindris Před 11 měsíci +65

    For Pandaren druids I would personally like it if they take direct inspiration from the august celestials for their forms even making them glowy and stuff like the originals.
    Cat Form - Xuen/Ban-Lu
    Travel Form- Niuzao the Ox
    Balance Form- Chi-Ji (specifically the crane humanoids from the MOP Concept art book on page 170 just use the Zandalari balance forms but reskin them)
    Flight Form- Yu'lon the jade serpent (obviously micro, maybe a bigger model of the baby dragons)
    Bear Form- Obviously a turtle I think that they could either stick with the august celestial designs or go for Shen-Zin Su (maybe involving the pandaren heritage armor quests *cough cough*)
    (Just take the zanadlari bear form and get rid of the spikes on the back)
    Then Finally Aquatic form should be a Koi fish
    Also technically in the lore the August celestials are wild gods and I think blessed by Freya, so like both Zandalari and Darkspear trolls they have every reason to learn a form of druidism from them.
    For Dwarves I think the Wild hammer have more of a reason to learn druidism then so a gryphon flight form would be pretty cool.
    For Orc/Maghar Orcs they also have the Botani to draw power from which I think could make for some pretty interesting forms but I think the Gronn Idea is too cool not to use and the Zandalari trolls already use the Arakkoa skeleton it may not be to difficult to reskin that to suit whatever race it needs to.

    • @MrCarrotbadger
      @MrCarrotbadger Před 11 měsíci +1

      Absolutely agree with the Orcs should have botani-flavour as druids!

    • @samuelsimpson7452
      @samuelsimpson7452 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Nah, the tank form has to be the Ox. The swim form could be a turtle. Just so long as they stay far away from the "bears that turn into bears" joke.

    • @Tyindris
      @Tyindris Před 11 měsíci

      @@samuelsimpson7452 "bears that turn into bears" was stupid even when they said it back then. But it would be way harder to make the ox model work for bear animations then it would be to reskin the ZTroll form. Even though I agree Niuzao makes way more sense for guardian then a stupid turtle does but it would be harder to pull off.

    • @SkylerDraike
      @SkylerDraike Před 11 měsíci +3

      I would love if the pandaren bear form was just them getting down on all fours

    • @fallhayv8470
      @fallhayv8470 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Pandas:
      Xuen feral, since Xuen is the celestial of Might.
      Nuzhao bear since the whole Nuzhao's shtick is Protection.
      Yulon for moonkin, she is the Wisdom
      Chi-ji for heal spec, he is the Hope.
      Those are main basics that MUST be upheld. If you are gonna do Panda druids do it right.
      The rest can be based on literal Pandaria fauna - travel form turtle (pandas travel on turtles, why not become one?) variation of the crane or serpent dragon for flying, that is all you need.
      I am saying this as that exact guy who plays WoW only for Pandaren and their lore, who leveled all pandaren classes and waits panda druids since MoP.

  • @godlygamer911
    @godlygamer911 Před 11 měsíci +24

    You're not wrong, for gnome druids. It's just the baby forms that we already have as non-combat pets. I've been wanting this since cataclysm!

  • @nbcal8
    @nbcal8 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I think if Druid is the next class to be made playable by all races, they will probably get something similar to what Warlock pets got last patch, a few more generic forms for eatch role, and some color variations of those, leaving the current races with Druidic culture more cosmetic options, while expanding the lore to include the rest of the playable races with generic models.

    • @Nathanyel
      @Nathanyel Před 11 měsíci +3

      I believe this is the way it'll go, with more race-based forms later on, but of course it will be decried as "lazy" to implement Druids for all races now instead of two years down the line 🙄

    • @calamity0.o
      @calamity0.o Před 11 měsíci +3

      I'd be fine with using generics now with unique forms as they become available. Most people use artifact forms with feral and guard, or stars with moonkin anyway.
      Plus, it gives me time to level each race as their forms release. Probably need to reuse a few names.

  • @lonesomecowboy76
    @lonesomecowboy76 Před 11 měsíci +5

    great video! I actually think the best pandaren stuff would be tying their forms to the august celestials, so crane as travel, white tiger as feral, green serpent as flight, and most importantly the black Ox as bear form. I think it would be another good example of using their own culture to create their own form of druid stuff.

  • @Skollshorties
    @Skollshorties Před 11 měsíci +113

    For Orcs I'd prefer to keep things still pretty beasty:
    Guardian: Clefthoof
    Feral: Wolf
    Balance: Arrokoa
    Air-Travel: Kaliri
    Ground-Travel: Another Wolf?
    Water-Travel: Fungal Orca (get it cause ORCa?)

    • @FancyTophatDude
      @FancyTophatDude Před 11 měsíci +6

      still: Arrakoa are like turning into a pandaran for your bear form. They're made clearly distinct from the "wild things" by the lore. I can actually see some sort of spore themed creature work as their balance form. Or literally anything from Shadowmoon Valley.

    • @williamzacarias8828
      @williamzacarias8828 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@FancyTophatDudeit could be like the zandalari balance form i guess since it appears to be the same model for the arakoa

    • @azahel542
      @azahel542 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@FancyTophatDude Yeah, Arakkoa are not animals

    • @mikey13086
      @mikey13086 Před 11 měsíci +1

      A frost wolf if you are mag'har, or other variations like that.

    • @Taygon094
      @Taygon094 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Not sure why Orcs should get Clefthoof or any of the hoofer beasts while Tauren has bear, when the Tauren has a close relationship with Kodos. Mm.. makes no sense.

  • @Lornda
    @Lornda Před 11 měsíci +17

    Gnome druid forms need to be
    balance= sparrow or small birb
    feral= kitten
    guardian= Koala bear
    resto= bonsai tree
    Swimming=otter
    travel=small owl/jack deer for ground mounts
    This is all thank you for listening to my TED talk
    Edit: no wait Honey badger for guardian

    • @Stalkingwolf
      @Stalkingwolf Před 11 měsíci

      the problem will be. druid will all look the same. when blizzard would doing something like this. it will end like this.
      like every class has now the same animation.

    • @Willbotx
      @Willbotx Před 11 měsíci

      Gnome/goblins would have mechanical forms

    • @Vaishino
      @Vaishino Před 11 měsíci

      Gnomes mounts scale up to the same size as a tauren's mount. If anything gnomes should have *big* druid forms

    • @katrinkarose175
      @katrinkarose175 Před 11 měsíci

      This is what I want and would 100% get me back into the game (I haven't subbed for ages).

  • @Scrufflelump
    @Scrufflelump Před 11 měsíci

    Getting over a cold and sitting here in my room, sipping a nice coffee. Feeling very comfy, especially thanks to this video. Thanks much, Tali!

  • @njalthemighty5378
    @njalthemighty5378 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I always thought the wildhammers wouldve been a great way to introduce dwarven druids.

  • @Dragon-Doxin
    @Dragon-Doxin Před 11 měsíci +6

    21:24 I always wanted a Yak for Pandaren's tank form. Like respecting the August Celestials forms. Cloud Serpent for travel form, white tiger for feral, Crane for balance... And if you think about it, Pandarens use turtles to navigate the seas. They could use Turtle forms, but for swimming!. I loved this video, Tali! Super hype!

  • @Locomotror
    @Locomotror Před 11 měsíci +18

    Every class now will be druid, no more class balance issues

    • @poundsofslothcigars
      @poundsofslothcigars Před 11 měsíci

      race*

    • @Marqrk
      @Marqrk Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@poundsofslothcigarsit’s a joke, the original title had a typo that said “class” instead of “race”

  • @camocanine64
    @camocanine64 Před 11 měsíci

    Legitimately the only in video sponsor advert that I will NEVER, EVER skip past!

  • @eltrew
    @eltrew Před 11 měsíci +2

    Draenei would definitely get their druid forms from the broken/list ones cuz they already have druids.
    Maybe lost ones/broken customisation options for draenei aswell.

  • @patrickmeyer3420
    @patrickmeyer3420 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I have suggested in the past. Druids could "empath" their forms from game creatures as a form of transmog. You would have to find a creature you want to empath from (and it'd have to be rigged). Then, all new druid races would just be taught to empath. Forms are way more limited than gear, so opening the whole world of models would be the best... then Blizz wouldn't have to create one for each race... just rig up new creatures each xpac that can be "captured" like hunters do.

  • @JasenHeffner
    @JasenHeffner Před 11 měsíci +6

    i have wanted an undead druid since i made mine 16 yrs ago. Good time for then to update all the "undead beast" skins and use for undead druid forms.

    • @anevilstripper6095
      @anevilstripper6095 Před 11 měsíci

      Same! I always wanted to use that blighthawk as a flight form

  • @psxanarchist
    @psxanarchist Před 11 měsíci

    I didn't expect to like this video, but I did, & I thank you for making it & entertaining us with such great Warcraft lore & concepts!

  • @TheDeekins
    @TheDeekins Před 11 měsíci +1

    a Lightforged Warlock said to me "you enslave demons to wield their power; I enslave them to make them suffer. We are not the same."

  • @joshualogan84
    @joshualogan84 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I think Draenie and Orcs fit Demon Hunters very well. Both have a history with the legion and demons and I think being around BE/NE enough, at this point should get them, even Void Elves and Nightborne woud make sense.

    • @Lockecole81
      @Lockecole81 Před 11 měsíci

      Man'ari, Fel Orcs, Naga, Broken, and more would all work quite well.
      Playable Naga and Broken needed to be playable across the board and fel orc options would be awesome.

  • @howardhavardramberg7160
    @howardhavardramberg7160 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I can't wait to be a druid warlock!

  • @DemethVLK
    @DemethVLK Před 11 měsíci

    That was a fun video!

  • @hmercer44
    @hmercer44 Před 11 měsíci

    Haven’t played wow in a while. Glad to see you’re still doing well. :)

  • @mechanicobra
    @mechanicobra Před 11 měsíci +4

    I think that even if we don't get druids for all in this patch, or even this expac due to all the work it'd take I do 100% agree that this patch will likely be the big lore reason used to allow those new druid/race combos in the future when they are added.

  • @sackless1
    @sackless1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Goblins and gnomes should get mechanical forms. A goblin riding a mech bear is a very fun thought.

  • @Ferril21
    @Ferril21 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The forms of druids are related to which school of druidism are they practicing. Some forms are Wild gods, like the bear, cat and stag. Kultiran forms look so different because they have been taught by Ulfar. I think the races introduced to Cenarion circle would shapeshift to the same forms old druid races have. More interesting are the races that would learn druidism from other sources. For example Pandaren forms could be based on August celestials. Orcs could be taught by Tauren, but you could also talk to spirits, since Orcs worship them. Shamans can summon spirit wolves and even transform into one, and i think lore behind this could be greatly expanded.

  • @leroylol
    @leroylol Před 11 měsíci

    HELLO can i get the song thats being played at 14:00 ! ive heard it before in game but i cannot find it anywhere! cheers

  • @TheWideMurloc
    @TheWideMurloc Před 11 měsíci +6

    When they do the universal pass for paladin, I’d hope they update the models for human/blood elf chargers to catch up with the quality of the other races

    • @Khagrim
      @Khagrim Před 11 měsíci

      Forsaken paladin is a cool concept. Using the Light and hurting yourself in the proccess like a true martyr

    • @TheWideMurloc
      @TheWideMurloc Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Khagrim I’d love to see the divine steed for forsaken, too. Prolly have gold light shining out of its wounds or something cool like that

  • @evilsammich
    @evilsammich Před 11 měsíci +3

    COME GET YOUR TYPO TALI

  • @BLKwyvern
    @BLKwyvern Před 11 měsíci +1

    I would love to see the pandaren turtle and the rest, I love the idea of pandaren and vulperian druids your ideas are great! Would love to see a serpent fly form but the balance for pandaren doesn’t really fit with the rest however it is still very cool. Great video :)

  • @RPZSTA
    @RPZSTA Před 11 měsíci +1

    Goblin druids are one of TWO things. They summon mechanical mounts and just sit ontop of it like a mount which would be a laugh OR... OR...
    Imagine if it was just oil spill victims.

  • @liamgloryosyoung3601
    @liamgloryosyoung3601 Před 11 měsíci +14

    as much as I'm looking forward to the many different forms of druids, I kind of like to think of it as one of the, if not the last class they make playable for every race. Maybe before Evoker but after DH.

    • @th3grimreap3r69
      @th3grimreap3r69 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Thing is, I actually dont see demon hunters becoming playable for every race. I don't see it personally.

    • @christopherdaffron8115
      @christopherdaffron8115 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I don't see Druids being made available for all races all at once because of the sheer amount of work that would be involved. However, Blizzard could take one race an create a Druid class for it to demonstrate that it can be done and to signal their intent of giving the Druid class to additional races in the future.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@christopherdaffron8115 I think druid and DHs (because of unique forms) will be added piecemeal rather than universal like shamans (because totems just require 4 asset recolors) and paladins (nothing new to add).

    • @pepepicapinto543
      @pepepicapinto543 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Evoker, DH and druid should never be available for ALL races. I'll go even further, Evoker and DH should never be available for any other race other than Dracthyr / Elves. Yes, I'm dying on this hill.

    • @aniuwuc
      @aniuwuc Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@pepepicapinto543same. makes no sense whatsoever.

  • @BurningFreesias
    @BurningFreesias Před 11 měsíci +3

    I so hope this will be the case. I've wanted a human (and belf/velf) druid for so long. Not a worgen one, because I don't want to look like a blue sparkling worgen when I shift into balance/moonkin form with the star glyph. There already has been two human druids in the canon books (Lucan Foxblood from "Stormrage," & Aramar Thorne from "Traveler"), so they're definitely possible to have. It's about time this reaches the playerbase.

    • @Zectifin
      @Zectifin Před 11 měsíci +1

      would love for human druid forms to all be Lion themed.

    • @callumharper3075
      @callumharper3075 Před 11 měsíci

      I haven’t finished the traveler series didn’t know he was gonna be a Druid :( rip

    • @BurningFreesias
      @BurningFreesias Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@callumharper3075 To be fair, it's listed as his class on Wowpedia. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So you shouldn't let that fact spoil your enjoyment of the books.

  • @Kriskat6
    @Kriskat6 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks, this made me smile.

  • @MikeloPool
    @MikeloPool Před 11 měsíci +2

    The best way to do new forms would be getting the Dracthyr treatment of highly customizable forms to compensate the lack of exclusive forms for each new race, and races included onwards. Same with shaman totems and paladin mounts.

  • @michaelc777
    @michaelc777 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Undead druids would be hilarious.

  • @oshawhat87
    @oshawhat87 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I think the tropical island forms for Goblins is better because those islands would be the first time most goblins would have been fully immersed in nature

  • @Zhienerich
    @Zhienerich Před 11 měsíci +1

    I was surprised you didnt bring Dragonhawks up in blood elf forms, nor even a hint towards the druid of flame forms of spider and scorpion.

  • @Squab83andTRULIFE316
    @Squab83andTRULIFE316 Před 11 měsíci

    Haha, what a Great job on this video guys! It's been a while since I've even cracked open Retail as its been Classic all the time for me lately but maybe it's time to give it another look 😊 Tali does make it sound exciting 😂

  • @Azkriels
    @Azkriels Před 11 měsíci +3

    For nightborne balance form i would use those half spider half nightborne creatures in the ruins thats used as an instance, dont remember their name

    • @courtneya9731
      @courtneya9731 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Tha fal’dorei! Which would be interesting as their creation was from an exploding Arcan’dor, which was a tree meant to be a perfect balance between nature and arcane magic

  • @Exloar
    @Exloar Před 11 měsíci +8

    For Draenei forms, you have a bunch of animated armors to pull from. Heck, Auchindoun is essentially a factory for hem. Perfect Boomie form. Bears would be Elekks, because of course they would.

    • @rabpanz6145
      @rabpanz6145 Před 11 měsíci

      Elekk are from Draenor, but yeah, they made such a tight connection with them I 100% agree

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Holy shit, an exarch construct moonkin form.

  • @13samfootball
    @13samfootball Před 11 měsíci

    Lol I missed this channel man. Used to watch it a lot during Legion. Glad I got to see 5 seconds of Evitel in the beginning and ad 😂😂

  • @Thromash
    @Thromash Před 11 měsíci +2

    Not that I am against the idea as I do love the Wolves there are a few issues.
    First being a Wolf form already exists in the lore. Though it was outlawed by Malfurion, I could see other races trying to use it again. But that is kinda how we got the original Worgen.
    Also a key difference between Dogs & Cats which is important to the model working with abilities. Dogs cannot swipe. Yes they can move their arms around, but they don't have the correct claws nor are the muscle & skeletal systems set in a way to give power & strength in that movement like a Cat. Dogs attack abilities come from the mouth & jaw, Cats are front arms, paws & somewhat jaws. So Dog models would look weird doing a swipe animation.
    However I am sure they could do some flavor text & a few small changes so that yes the ability is basically swipe but it is more attuned to a K9.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Před 11 měsíci +3

    20:01 Pretty sure Elune is from the yet unseen and yet unmentioned Pantheon of Life. Titan-Adjacent like the Eternal Ones at least (Winter Queen is mentioned to be Elune's sister so they're probably all the same species (or "race" as they're incorrectly known in WoW) but Odyn apparently got in the way of us finding out more about that.... [AVGN impersonation] Odyn? More like Oh'd*ck)

  • @Zeigler_
    @Zeigler_ Před 11 měsíci +3

    I think they could rename the forms instead of Bear Form call it guardian from then they could go wild with the forms like Tali did here

  • @EpicMathTime
    @EpicMathTime Před 11 měsíci

    Can anyone understand what is said at 23:59? "Instead of bear, they have [???]"
    It just shows a picture of a Draenei so I am not sure what form is being proposed.

  • @nekovet69
    @nekovet69 Před 11 měsíci +2

    As a druid main, I've wanted undead druids since vanilla.

  • @avstzn
    @avstzn Před 11 měsíci +9

    druids for all races😭

  • @gengoron4519
    @gengoron4519 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Your ideas for the non-Azerothian races (orcs and draenei) are really cool and I like them. For all Azerothian races though, I think they should hold to Cenarian Circle forms. They are after all being blessed by Cenarius.
    Those forms are also not arbitrary as they are designed after Wild Gods to emulate some of their power.
    Kul'Tirans and Zandalari are different as explicitly gain their druididic powers from different areas. For everyone else, if they gain the power from Cenarius, then I think they should use Cenarian Circle forms.
    Two addendums:
    Pandaren have a strong connection with 4 other Wild Gods so I think their forms could/should reflect that.
    Darkspear are an exception as Gonk gave them their power but they learned how to use it from the Cenarian Circle thus, Cenarian forms.

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I was very against the idea of all classes being available to all races at first, cuz there is a reason some races can't be certain classes. But lore-wise it makes sense that anyone can study any magic they choose, even if it's against their race's culture, or even if it hurts them physically.
    Also, wielding two different magics isn't anything new. Priest can wield both Light and Void magic, two fundamentally opposing forces, and Warlocks wield Fel and Void as well. So surely beings infused with one magic (Lightforged and Void Elves) can wield an opposing magic despite their biology.

  • @Interactivehearts
    @Interactivehearts Před 11 měsíci

    I really really really want the gnome druids, WITH THE BABYFORMS! So happy u said that!

  • @smalldam
    @smalldam Před 11 měsíci

    i've been wanting blood elf druid for such a long time now, lynx cat form colors and patterns could look so fking cool man

  • @davidcalhoun3235
    @davidcalhoun3235 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great Video. As a person who had leveled up every druid class, I had been only hoping for Panda to be added. But love your take on them..

    • @Lycroth
      @Lycroth Před 4 měsíci

      I haven't played in a while. But Druids didn't get any new races, did they?

  • @kylinsky
    @kylinsky Před 11 měsíci +1

    The horde goblins come from tropical islands. Clearly their flight form should be a Parrot. Tank form should be a Pig (with a greased customization). Melee form a snake or scorpion. And Balance form should be a boomkin, but with a grass skirt.
    Also, don't sleep on bugs. I think Vulpera and even Undead could have a whole suite of bug forms. And Void elves could draw from some of the silithid models.

  • @CrabCrow
    @CrabCrow Před 11 měsíci +1

    I would love Night Elf and Forsaken Paladins. I've always been an advocate that an undead soldier using the light to protect others despite it making him feel discomfort or pain is a pretty badass character and shows the kind of personal sacrifice a paladin is supposed to embody. Plus Night Elf paladins of Elune that pick up arms to defend the new world tree after the burning of Teldrassil would be awesome.

    • @Lockecole81
      @Lockecole81 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I feel like worgen should get the Elune paladin theme as an option as well. A werewolf paladin serving a mood goddess just sounds awesome. There's a ton of paladin themes that could be made as cool options for our characters.

    • @CrabCrow
      @CrabCrow Před 11 měsíci

      @@Lockecole81 Right? That would make perfect sense! Plus if Blood knights can be a thing, Moon knights can be one too.

    • @Lockecole81
      @Lockecole81 Před 11 měsíci

      @@CrabCrow There's been a ton of great concepts. Keyboardturn/Simaia and Lost Codex had a great proposal they'd made covering a bunch of themes and types I loved it. It'd be another great layer of customization to be able to pick which cosmic power you want to ally with /represent.

  • @LPcrazy_88
    @LPcrazy_88 Před 11 měsíci

    This was such a fun video man, well done on like 85% of your picks. Playable arakoa would be so freakn cool and I would actually go back to Boomkin for!

  • @lycos94
    @lycos94 Před 11 měsíci +1

    i just want some more unique forms for existing druid classes, i get a big jealous when i see those new high-res kultiran and zandalar forms

  • @PsychKenn23
    @PsychKenn23 Před 11 měsíci

    I really feel that this is possible, but in the short term I see Blizz making it connected to finishing some questline gate and then it's account wide so you only need to do it once. Reason for this being that the forms for all other races that aren't currently druids would be some sort of Emerald Dream forms that all of them share, at least until the art team can slowly trickle out a small "attunement" quest for (insert race here) and that would unlock that races forms on your account afterwards. Great idea I just think it'll happen slowly over time or have a generic shared form pool at start that slowly gets replaced over time. And maybe if you like the "Emerald borrowed form" make it a barber shop option for anyone at some point too.

  • @BellaRainDrops
    @BellaRainDrops Před 11 měsíci

    Human Druid has been my dream since Tbc, I hope for this so much !

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish Před 10 měsíci

    4:40 I saw that horn option and realizing I could potentially be a draenei warlock with the horns sawed off like Hellboy has me *sold.*

  • @ArgerasCZ
    @ArgerasCZ Před 11 měsíci

    I still wish we would get class race skins idea you had Tali years ago, it was my favorite video idea you ever had, for example light forged draenei would have shadow priest spec reskin to light stuff etc etc, Kultiras priest would have more water based skin priest or shamans I don't remember exactly, it's years since I saw that video :D

  • @tamz7474
    @tamz7474 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm glad you didn't suggest mech forms for the gnomes/goblins. I'm still on the hopium train for Tinkers at some point.

  • @resplendentobscurity
    @resplendentobscurity Před 11 měsíci

    "And for bear form, they have T'paartos" 😂😂😂 that came out of no where and got me good

  • @aethercosm
    @aethercosm Před 11 měsíci

    I've been waiting for more Druid race options to play them and the day Druid options open up to everyone is the day I go boomkin and never look back

  • @Soldruid
    @Soldruid Před 11 měsíci

    🎉OMG..... i freaked out while at work reading " druids for all races" do you know how long I've been complaining about wanting MORE DRUID RACES???!!!!!! THANK YOU❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @scottfredericksen6211
    @scottfredericksen6211 Před 11 měsíci

    I've been holding out for Forsaken Druids!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Před 11 měsíci +1

    7:47 Shamen are the next race being prepared to be universal? I can't wait to play as a Shaman Paladin!

  • @Serothil_and_stuff
    @Serothil_and_stuff Před 11 měsíci

    Dear Tali, to Vulpera getting Hyenas as their Feral Form, you are actually spot on. That Hyenas are dogs is a common misconception, they are actually more closely related to cats than to dogs. ^^

  • @victor_schroder
    @victor_schroder Před 11 měsíci

    I would love the baby gnome forms. I've been wanting that for years and years now

  • @eboethrasher
    @eboethrasher Před 11 měsíci

    The best way to pick out forms for most of the races is to look at what is in their starter areas. That's why as others suggested, Dragonhawk for Belf. They have cats prowling around their starting area, too.
    Cat form isn't really called cat form, it is feral. So you can cross-pick it from Ferocity hunter pets, and that would work. A there are wolves that would work. And a spider is under the Ferocity category. Warp Stalker is under Cunning but it also fits the Cat/feral concept. Slash, invisible/hiding etc,
    My main question is, who gets a platypus as a aquatic travel form? I think that should be a race that seems fun but has a bite.

  • @sarahparrish7206
    @sarahparrish7206 Před 10 měsíci

    when i was a kid, i had a ton of cool ideas for druid forms for the races that didnt have them (this was back in wrath) and i told my parents about them and they explained to me that it didnt make sense in the lore and races like forsaken dont have a connection with nature and cant be druids… i am glad that someday (hopefully soon) i may get to see some of those childhood dreams realized

  • @foncon9642
    @foncon9642 Před 11 měsíci

    They can just use the same basemesh/rigs for bear forms, cat forms, (probably travel forms), and moonkin depending one the design route. It would just be the added details/textures that need to be added and parented/merged to the basemesh. They often do this with mounts. edit: grammar edit 2: okay nvm you went way deeper with the forms this might not work as well lol.

  • @Bliss467
    @Bliss467 Před 11 měsíci

    I always felt it was exactly in the Draenei MO to forgive and that welcoming the Man’ari back into the fold would be the ultimate expression of that.

  • @hoojibvideos6628
    @hoojibvideos6628 Před 11 měsíci

    Hyenas are actually more closely related to cats than dogs so you're right on the money with that Vulpera cat form, Tali!

  • @CarterArts
    @CarterArts Před 11 měsíci

    High Arrakoa also works as the Zandalari boomkin form uses the same skeleton/animations

  • @fnordcinco
    @fnordcinco Před 11 měsíci

    I've always loved the idea that the undead burn while being priests constantly and that misery is how they function.

  • @jenetikitty
    @jenetikitty Před 11 měsíci

    yes give me druids for everything!
    I sadly would go the more difficult route and focus a little more on "bear, but with tusks" because I think it's neat seeing the spin on things 🥺

  • @joshwills2228
    @joshwills2228 Před 11 měsíci

    Loved the video! I'm sure that Blizzard have already thought about the potential to sell druid skins on the Trader's Post in the future, and by expanding the classes that can use them they'll sell more tokens etc. So yeah I think it'll happen, and I cannot wait tbh!

  • @voidred9963
    @voidred9963 Před 10 měsíci

    for Draenei on Argus there are Scalehides to use as bear forms

  • @funkygroovejunkie2687
    @funkygroovejunkie2687 Před 11 měsíci

    If the DEV Team made the class "Machinist" - the class would have "Mech Form" for Tank, "Mech-Suit Form" for M-DPS, "Robo-Turrets" for R-DPS, and "Field Medic" as Heals. Anyone could be a "Machinist" with many class options; and fill the need for a Druid.

  • @Craig_Tucker48
    @Craig_Tucker48 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing your opinion on pvp silhouettes. I agree completely with you on this. So annoyed they took observer warlock pets based on this argument.

  • @kryptofreak4059
    @kryptofreak4059 Před 11 měsíci

    "Older than my graduation sweater" hit hard...

  • @vickystrudwick3939
    @vickystrudwick3939 Před 11 měsíci

    27:46 As a Gnome, I can attest that disappearing in a crowd is par for the course haha. Now where do I sign up to be a baby bear drood?

  • @suokkis
    @suokkis Před 10 měsíci

    I would add unique race specific Druid forms, for each race like weve seen for the Kul Tiran and Zandalari. Here are my suggestions for the races that can be druids now:
    Night Elf (The basest of Druid forms)
    Night Saber (Dps) Black Bear (Tank) Moonkin (Ranged Dps) Giant Owl (Flight Form) Stag (Travel Form) Leopard Seal (Swim Form)
    Worgen (Tried to go with something Gilneas/werewolf vibe)
    Dire Worg (Dps) Wolf/bear beast (Tank) Raven Humanoid (Ranged Dps) Raven (Flight Form) Wolf (Travel Form) Wolf Eel (Swim Form) - similar to the Nazjatar boss but smaller
    Darkspear Troll (Heavy Jungle theme here in forms)
    Tiger (Dps) Gorilla (Tank) Bat humanoid (Ranged Dps) Bat (Flight Form) Cheetah (Travel Form) Crocolisk (Swim form)
    Mulgore Tauren (Forms that are associated with Tauren, Barrens and their beasts)
    Lion (Dps) Kodo Beast/Thunder Lizard (Tank) Hawk humanoid with horns (Ranged Dps) Hawk (Flight Form) Zhevra/Plainstrider (Travel Form) Giant Salmon (Swim Form)
    Highmountain Tauren (Very native american/canadian bestiary theme)
    Puma (Dps) Grizzly Bear (Tank) Eagle Humanoid with antlers(Ranged Dps) Eagle (Flight Form) Moose (Travel form) Giant Beaver (Swim Form)
    Each comes with multiple color choices, which can be changed at the barber shop.

  • @Carson_Van_McUber
    @Carson_Van_McUber Před 11 měsíci

    During vanilla I got hit with the wand that makes you look like a goblin and I played as a druid. Ever since then I thought it would be awesome to have a goblin druid. I hope my dream comes true.

  • @Alwyn_Menril
    @Alwyn_Menril Před 11 měsíci

    All I want is more options for druid form customization, the option to choose any model of bear/cat/bird/water creature to suite our desire.
    I always wanted a simple, normal bear form on my druid elf.
    And add more were forms.

  • @dustypoo2209
    @dustypoo2209 Před 11 měsíci

    the first goblin druid should be like a freak show attraction like "come to my shapeshifting show" and he just gets paid to shapeshift

  • @the1tigglet
    @the1tigglet Před 11 měsíci

    Technically @Taliesin spiders actually do have paws and claws, that's how they grapple their prey but they are so small it takes a special microscope to see them.

  • @Emcron
    @Emcron Před 11 měsíci

    I lol'd at the penguin gnome balance druid XD

  • @mark0211
    @mark0211 Před 11 měsíci

    Druids with all unique forms would bring me back. For the dreanei tank you could do the kurken. It comes from the azuremyst isle even

  • @xarnir5840
    @xarnir5840 Před 11 měsíci

    yes that would be awsome!