"From here, it doesn't look like they're playing by your rules. Maybe its time to play by theirs." Ian is excellent in this role, very cold and calculating.
Fassbender really showed the passion and emotion of the young man whereas Mckellen was the old man in a profession that men die young in. Experienced and professional
@@matthewschwartz6607 He did, but he's old and bitter and Charles has an opposing view to his. Magneto was radicalized young and only got deeper into hatred and bitterness, but you can still see that he respects and cares for Charles.
I love the moment at 1:32. Magneto knows that Charles will be fine, but he also knows that Charles will never forgive Magneto for what’s about to happen.
The way Magneto whips his cape around Jason as he leaves makes me think that, in an earlier take, it got snagged on the wheelchair and probably all four of them broke character laughing at it.
Nah. It’s Ian’s brilliant way of portraying how low magneto thinks of the man who manipulated Charles into doing this. You’re not even worthy of my clothing touching your chair. Good day sir.
Magneto doesn’t see Stryker as the Big Bad, he only sees him as one evil human in a sea of billions of other evil humans. Despite all the torture he went through as a child because of people like him, Stryker wasn’t even worth his time. Magneto is one of the greatest supervillains of all time because his enemy is all mankind, and he works constantly towards the goal of eradicating them even when he’s an acting as an ally towards the X-Men. Even when he’s being friendly he’s doing so in bad faith.
@@matthewschwartz6607 He’s friendly in bad faith, helping Professor X with the intent of using him to achieve his goals. He has opinions about Charles but they still remain friends, Charles visiting him in prison for example. None of the evil things Magneto does detracts from his like of Charles; he’s still Charles’ friend, but his hatred of mankind is all-consuming
IKR? It’s awesome! But I have never been able to find the sound effect(s) used to create it. Every magnetic sound I have come across is nothing like what is used in the movie. ☹️
I don't see much respect in forcing his so-called friend to commit genocide on the entire human race... If Magneto's plan had succeeded, Charles would suffer horribly for what he did and I have no doubt that he would hate Erick with all his soul for forcing him to commit such atrocity.
The look of absolute awe on Mystiques face at Magnetos power as he rises up and his genius is a beautiful moment you can tell she knows and respects what he's truly capable of and id even say she loves Eric very much ❤
@@LordMarvin1993 They didn't switch off he just got lost in trying to save all of mutantkind. And she stayed loyal when she lead the government to the fake camp
@@LordMarvin1993 It's to emphasise how deeply he resents humans. As soon as she became human, it didn't matter that she was once a Mutant, not even the closest to him in the Brotherhood. Above all else, Erik cares about the cause.
@Jim Harrington X3 has its problems for sure but that scene isn't one of them. It's very in character for Erik. It's like she died to him at that moment. How she was born is irrelevant to him if she can no longer relate to other mutants or their struggle to belong.
Am I the only one who thinks 0:16-0:18 is the funniest thing ever? Erik’s smile as he taps his helmet cracks me up every time! He’s literally telling Jason “Can’t touch ‘dis!” 😆
"From here it doesn't look like they're playing by your rules........maybe its time to play by theirs" * magnetic powers engage * SO deadly!!!🔥 One of my favorite line deliveries of all time! Huge props to Ian McKellen💯✊🏿
At this point in the narrative Erik is 120% Shaw's son. There is no going back. Like Poirot once said, " Do not let Evil into your heart. It will make a home there.
The weight of this scene hasn’t hit me until long after I saw it in theaters as a kid. I was 9 when this came out. Magneto was the only one able to withstand the attack because of his helmet, but decided to fight fire with fire. You tried to exterminate all of us by manipulating my old friend. You miscalculated. I helped build the original cerebro and know exactly how to reverse the circuitry and panels. Beautifully done.
It’s weird that magneto just leaves the base after this. He knows the x men have a teleporter with them and could do exactly what they did in undoing what magneto did.
It’s not weird at all when you unpack it. He’s not the hero, but he’s a tad merciful. He was the only one able to stop what was happening. You can only imagine the rage he must’ve felt knowing striker tried to kill all the mutants at once by manipulating his old friend. He’s not settling at just stopping the attack. He’s going to reverse the attack onto the attacker. Force striker and all humans to feel what was just inflicted on all mutants. If he were without mercy he would’ve prevented the x men from entering until all humans were dead. He succeeded in responding to an attack and sending a message.
Magneto/Erik: "how does it look over there, Charles? Still defending a good to defending? From here, it doesn't make they by your rules. Maybe it's time to play by theirs rules!" "Goodbye, Charles."
The best character and extremely intelligent, wise to calculated decisions or infringe pain to Cerebro when it's necessary or even the Infrastructure Telecom Red and the Elite who cause harmful to other mutants like him.
Long time ago in the arcades, he was my main character in marvel vs capcom series fighting games. He allowed me to express and experience what its like to play god in the video games. He is and always will be my bad boy childhood love. 😍😍🤩
Ian kills it in this role. But Magneto leaving Charles to die never sat well with me. And him trying to wipe out the whole human race honestly made Magneto just as bad as Stryker.
The plan is to kill all non mutants. Charles would be fine. (Emotionally fucked though.) The Xmen are in the visinaty, they would just break him out. With all the proto humans dead.
@@matthewschwartz6607 when it comes to magneto it’s not surprising Although he would never want to hurt Charles or kill him doesn’t mean he’s against using him to further his goals of mutant superiority even though Charles would be guilty af as long as it doesn’t kill him he’s fine with using him
Xavier's argument: humans and mutants can learn to coexist for mutual advantage. Magneto's argument: our two peoples are never going to get along, so your side needs to die.
Ah i love the subtle things like this scene. How Magneto smirks while tapping his “ dorky helmet” the clear awe as Mystique watches. People wondering how Magneto knows which panels to move must remember that both Magneto and Prof X built Cerebro together. Also th fact that Magneto was willing to let X die is totally in character. Yes Magneto has great respect for Charles X but he was hurt to many times by humans and this pushes him to win no matter the cost. Here X is just another sacrifice for the cause. This is what’s missing from today’s stories.
xmen 3 : Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live. x2: good bye charles
This is different than from the 3rd movie, if he had succeeded, there would only be mutates, magneto would have won, but in the third movie, Charles dies at the hands of another mutant (Jean), Erik wouldn’t want that to be his friend end, but if Charles death leading to mutants salvation, he’s gladly accommodate
@@rafiqalim I never thought that Charles would die by doing that. I took it to mean that Erik knows their friendship will be over for good if it really happens. Can you imagine how Charles would feel when the illusion wore off and he saw he had been used to murder a few billion people? Would he have ever forgiven Erik? I think that’s why Erik was saying goodbye, he was acknowledging that he’d crossed a huge line in using Charles as a weapon.
@@hopejaworski9097 there’s a reason y they call either old friend, though what they fighting for are similar, neither will sacrifice their values for the other, Charles won’t allow Erik to kill people for the good of mutants, Erik won’t stop what he’s doing when Charles go against him.
Just b4 this clip, ALL mutants (including Mystique) were about to die...Magneto shut down Cerebro with his pwrs. *THEN he opens the door and we get this
As he helped build/engineer cerebro, he knows how to rewire it so that it can find humans instead of mutants. I don't think it would have worked as effectively if it was configured in the original format to find mutants. Also this is an incomplete cerebro so its possible the real cerebro never needed this rearrangement and could be in both modes. But the main reason is that it looks cool
@@IronicSonics I find it strange that certain panels have to be in certain places for Cerebro to locate humans vs. mutants. It's not like each group is entirely in the directions that their panels correspond to.
He was lobotomized. Who knows how much he was able to comprehend, and he didn’t see Mystique at any point. He saw Magneto, then he heard and saw his “father” saying there was a change of plans.
@@terminallove3531 because he drove his mother insane with his powers and she committed suicide. Grief stricken, Stryker decided to weaponize him. A running theme in Xmen is that humanity actually has every reason to fear and even hate mutants....they are inoridinately DANGEROUS...power manifestation can range from harmless to deadly, and from deadly on a local scale to "Who set off the nuke?" and that's before you factor in that level of power warping the psyche of the pubescent mind that manifests it. In some cases (Wither comes to mind) it can even come with a specific HUNGER to consume others. And Wither was a kid that WANTED to be good, but eventually his sanity just collapsed. and there's never really any way to tell by looking what you're going to get. Nevermind (this is canon, and is actually being indirectly addressed for the first time in decades in the recent AXE *Avengers vs Xmen vs Eternals* storyline), Mutants are a result of Celestials mucking with early human DNA to create three new subspecies of human..Eternals, Deviants, and Latents. Eternals are living gods, Deviants mutate wildly with each new entity, and latants are basicly deciants who START human, but can manifest in any number of ways. and then ther'es a small percentage of unaffected humans that know deep down on a genetic level that they have competition. Meanwhile the Celestials and thier machines guide species on a worldwide level telepathically. in previous confrontations with the Eternals, when the Celestials were actually paying attention, they simply made the Avengers forget why they were confronting the Eternals and peacefully go home to leave them about thier business just by THINKING about it. In the current storyline though, the Celestials as a whole aren't doing that..but the erstatz Progenitor that was created is casually mentally scanning and judging EVERYONE ON THE PLANET simultaneously and seperately. and that's just ONE of them. So the great irony is, Xavier's and other mutants'spiel about mutants being "natural evolution" is and has always been utter BS, and the belief is likely being FORCED on him.
Genetics is among the most powerful forces in the universe even from our small planet. You see the strength of gorillas, the speed of cheetahs, the stamina and intelligence of humans, the mysterious gifts of snakes, spiders, and other creatures from nature alone. With that power infused into people with their regular anatomy, they are unstoppable. We should praise such development.
@@BlackDiamond2718 which has nothing to do with the "fact" that in this fictional universe, gnatural evolution isn't involved so much as interferance form giant space aliens, messing with people's bodies and minds.
If everything in the marvel universe was connected. When Stryker and Magneto had Charles try to kill the mutants and humans, would the avengers and other heroes (the ones with actual powers) fall into the mutant category or the human category?
Some are debatable, but most are not mutants, all original movie avengers are humans, with one enhanced human and one asgardian, later on Maximoff could be considered a mutant, and i honestly don't know about wanda. vision is neither, so there's that, and Carol danvers is human, so is quill, even as half human. Not sure what would happen to Rocket or Groot, but i would guess All enhanced individuals would survive, so thor, loki, gamora, the hulk, etcetera, they are pretty resistant.
@@victorlosadahernandez7125visions an alien robot,quicksilver and Scarlett witch are mutants like their father Eric Magnus lensher. Captain America is a creation. Thor is a god like Phoenix (not jean grey)
@@victorlosadahernandez7125visions an alien robot,quicksilver and Scarlett witch are mutants like their father Eric Magnus lensher. Captain America is a creation. Thor is a god like Phoenix (not jean grey)
The Avengers and other heroes would mostly fall into the human category. Even if Hulk and Captain America are enhanced humans, they are still human nonetheless. The only ones who wouldn't be affected by Charles's psychic attacks are Thor, Loki, Valkyrie, Korg, Vision, and the Guardians of the Galaxy since they're not mutants nor are they humans. Although, i'm not sure about Star Lord because he is half human and I don't know if his half celestial genes can shield him from Charles.
That’s why Magneto wants Cerebro. Because when combined with a telepath like Xavier, he can commit literal genocide. Xavier can kill all mutants if he wants to using Cerebro
@@emorynox5395 The issue i always had with this scene is less with could he do it and more could he do it on the fly without looking at a configuration schematic for reference. He is taking unmarked plates and moving them to specific but still unmarked locations. Unless his mutant power includes an eidetic memory it does stand out as an example of "because its cool/dramatic for me to do it this way."
for some reason the xmen ip has more interesting stuff than the avengers or orther groups of heroes, you got giant killer robots, a special computer used by a psychic, a school for muntants the concept of mutants themselves in constant conflicts with humans, idk
This Cerebro is specifically designed by Striker for Charles to find and kill only mutants, not humans. So, if they want Charles to find humans too, it is necessary to make changes to this Cerebro, and that is precisely what Magneto is doing in this scene.
In a later scene, Jean talks about how Magneto reversed Cerebro to not target the Mutants, but everyone else (IE, the humans) instead. So, those panels and their placement on the walls of Cerebro must have some effect in amplifying or directing Charles' powers.......
Because if Magneto ever killed Charles, no mutants would ever follow him He would be a pariah. It would most likely be the equivalent of Malcolm X killing Dr.King.
Honestly, at this point Magneto became a moustache twirling villain. Using his old friend to commit genocide, much like the nazis but bigger scale is just hardly a complex antagonist anymore.
Yeah I'm going to be honest I don't like how they did magneto in this scene this scene in fact it wasn't was originally supposed to be magneto saving proffser x but for some reason they decided to change it I mean don't get me wrong I like x men 2 it's my favourite x men film next to days of future past and logan and the deadpool movies
The dam the base that housed the dark version of Cerebro was hidden in was ruptured, and Magneto was leaving him there to die after killing the humans......
@@matthewschwartz6607 Depends on the version. Generally speaking, though, not really.......The way they showed this version, though, is to be a colder, more calculating person.......Likely due to the traumas he experienced while he was younger. And yet, not incapable of learning and growing past that coldness, as shown by his actions in _Days of Future Past._ In many scenes, he showed a deep regret for the deeds he carried out, and was shown trying to atone for them.
@@leeholman3964 So it would target humans instead of mutants. Why not just watch the movie? It's a fictional science fiction device - the people calling out "how it works" are... idiots.
Incomplete Cerebro. One with full plate stacked walls would detect every being worldwide. Original X Mansion Cerebro can detect everyone worldwide. Back under lake, it was built like that on short announce and time and to speed up the game to reach mutants. For Magneto's plan to kick off he needed rearranging from only mutants (1st plated walls design) to only humans (2nd plated walls design) to go for the kill. And it worked to an extent.
it doens't block telepathy..only the helmet on MAGNETO'S head does that. the rig on Xavier's head AMPLIFIES telepathy. so if anything it's making him that much more receptive once you get past his normally formidible defences. In the comics, he once used Cerebro to telepathically connect with every mind on earth, human and mutent, to use thier collective mental power to fend off an alien invasion. The effort left him in a coma for months, but it worked. It should also be mentioned that this was back in the days where Xavier was delibrately editing his own mind to repress his baser instincts..and his dark side would pop up and manifest itself as a seperate personality now and again. You've heard of Onslaught, right? that only happened when Xavier's dark side also happened to mix with MAGNETO'S, creating a gestalt entity. but it wasn't the only time something like that happened, and even without magneto's added abilities, he was a handful. If they ever do revive xmen, tha'ts actually something i would LOVE to see Patrick Stewart play...Dark Xavier...gleefull, malicious puppet master.
@@alexsolomon7991 I'm afraid Multiverse of Madness was his last time in this role...But if it doesn't block his telepathy, how couldn't he mind control Striker in the scene where he introduces his son?
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p they said that for Logan too...but you're probably right. And remember that the senior Mr. Stryker was using a drug derived from his son's cranial fluid to mind control people.
The drug, combined with the illusion of the little girl asking Xavier "find them, help them". Was enough to manipulate Xavier to acting as a battery for strikers version of cerebro without being consciously aware of what he was doing. Magneto who helped design the original version of cerebro, knew how to recalibrate the device to affect humans and then using mystique to assume the role of striker's father use the addled but quite powerful striker Jr to further manipulate Xavier again. Basically, he was caught off guard and slipped a mickey.
It's the same corruption, the other way around. It makes no sense to kill the humans that are not trying to kill the mutants, even if one belives in capital punishment.
He was pretty much lobotomized to only do what daddy told him to. If he had been in full control of his faculties I'm fairly certain he would have been mind screwing everyone.
Jason doesn't directly do mind control. He puts images in people's heads and those images can be persuasive. He most likely did not know Mystique was there.
Oh, he could.......Thing is.....Mystique disguised herself as his father, who had held him captive and tortured him into submission for decades, bending him to his will. So, all Jason saw and heard was his father telling him to make Charles target the humans instead. Not Mystique.
"From here, it doesn't look like they're playing by your rules. Maybe its time to play by theirs." Ian is excellent in this role, very cold and calculating.
I like Fassbender a lot, but even he can't match the excellence that is McKellen's Magneto. Absolute perfection.
Fassbender really showed the passion and emotion of the young man whereas Mckellen was the old man in a profession that men die young in. Experienced and professional
@@leojamesclune1730 - Did this Magneto really care about Charles? They don’t seem to allude to it that much.
@@matthewschwartz6607 He did, but he's old and bitter and Charles has an opposing view to his. Magneto was radicalized young and only got deeper into hatred and bitterness, but you can still see that he respects and cares for Charles.
@@uuiam i- It was alluded to in the THIRD movie! Magneto just leaves him here to ; what, die?
I love the moment at 1:32. Magneto knows that Charles will be fine, but he also knows that Charles will never forgive Magneto for what’s about to happen.
Would Magneto just leave him there trapped like that? That seems kind of sociopathic .
Uh, I think that he was leaving him there to die . I thought that they were friends .
Erik doesn't have any friends. Like America- he has " interests ". The rest is quite immaterial.
@@tatianalyulkin410- Didn’t he call
Charles his old friend?
@@matthewschwartz6607 Nope, he just used the guy behind him to brainwash Charles into killing all non-mutants.
The way he flicks his cape at the end
That Sir Ian McClellan is a genius!
McKellen** lol
The way Magneto whips his cape around Jason as he leaves makes me think that, in an earlier take, it got snagged on the wheelchair and probably all four of them broke character laughing at it.
Nah. It’s Ian’s brilliant way of portraying how low magneto thinks of the man who manipulated Charles into doing this. You’re not even worthy of my clothing touching your chair. Good day sir.
The difference between magneto and Stryker, is that magneto didn’t throw the first stone, he fights back
Magneto doesn’t see Stryker as the Big Bad, he only sees him as one evil human in a sea of billions of other evil humans. Despite all the torture he went through as a child because of people like him, Stryker wasn’t even worth his time. Magneto is one of the greatest supervillains of all time because his enemy is all mankind, and he works constantly towards the goal of eradicating them even when he’s an acting as an ally towards the X-Men. Even when he’s being friendly he’s doing so in bad faith.
Very true.
@@MeanAndPristine - Still, isn’t he kind of using his old friend as a weapon? Isn’t he kind of taking advantage of him?
@@matthewschwartz6607 He’s friendly in bad faith, helping Professor X with the intent of using him to achieve his goals. He has opinions about Charles but they still remain friends, Charles visiting him in prison for example. None of the evil things Magneto does detracts from his like of Charles; he’s still Charles’ friend, but his hatred of mankind is all-consuming
@@MeanAndPristine - Yeah, I mean, but he just LEFT him trapped in Cerebro , and used him to kill humans! He could have rescued him .
I love how the hum of magneto's powers are used as an auditory riff, indicating menace or an emotional release almost.
IKR? It’s awesome! But I have never been able to find the sound effect(s) used to create it. Every magnetic sound I have come across is nothing like what is used in the movie. ☹️
0:31 “Maybe it’s time to play by *🤠Theirs🤠”*
I love how x and magneto always respect each other somehow.
They both fight for the future for mutants Charles fights for equality and Erik fights for supremacy.
@@Will.Flavell
i think charles side but sometime magneto part
I don't see much respect in forcing his so-called friend to commit genocide on the entire human race...
If Magneto's plan had succeeded, Charles would suffer horribly for what he did and I have no doubt that he would hate Erick with all his soul for forcing him to commit such atrocity.
@@Blasckk Agreed. Charles would've been disgusted with himself.
@@Blasckk Agreed. I prefer his previous idea of turning a hateful senator into sludge
The look of absolute awe on Mystiques face at Magnetos power as he rises up and his genius is a beautiful moment you can tell she knows and respects what he's truly capable of and id even say she loves Eric very much ❤
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I can't believe how his feelings for mystique just switched off on x3
@@LordMarvin1993 They didn't switch off he just got lost in trying to save all of mutantkind. And she stayed loyal when she lead the government to the fake camp
@@LordMarvin1993 It's to emphasise how deeply he resents humans. As soon as she became human, it didn't matter that she was once a Mutant, not even the closest to him in the Brotherhood. Above all else, Erik cares about the cause.
@Jim Harrington X3 has its problems for sure but that scene isn't one of them. It's very in character for Erik. It's like she died to him at that moment. How she was born is irrelevant to him if she can no longer relate to other mutants or their struggle to belong.
Am I the only one who thinks 0:16-0:18 is the funniest thing ever?
Erik’s smile as he taps his helmet cracks me up every time!
He’s literally telling Jason “Can’t touch ‘dis!” 😆
X-Men First Class made that moment age even better with explicitly revealing the helmet keeps telepaths from entering.
No, you're not, man!
Was it revealed in the first two movies how Magneto created his helmet?
@@matthewschwartz6607 Erik didn’t create the helmet; it was originally Shaw’s, but Erik took it for himself before killing Shaw with the Nazi coin
@@charlielucas3386 - That was shown in First Class. But was it ever addressed in the first two movies ? I don’t remember it being discussed .
1:39- I love what Mags does with his cape here. Just hilarious
"From here it doesn't look like they're playing by your rules........maybe its time to play by theirs"
* magnetic powers engage *
SO deadly!!!🔥 One of my favorite line deliveries of all time! Huge props to Ian McKellen💯✊🏿
I remember seeing this at the cinema,I love this scene it still holds up, And despite deep down Magneto cares for Xavier he is willing to kill him.
DOES he care about Charles, though? It doesn’t seem like he does here.
Was Charles going to die here?
At this point in the narrative Erik is 120% Shaw's son. There is no going back. Like Poirot once said, " Do not let Evil into your heart. It will make a home there.
@@matthewschwartz6607Jason was about to deepfry his brain after manipulating him, so yeah
For Magneto, the end justifies the means.
1:39 you are welcome.
Magneto is hands down my favorite X-Men character.
Yeah, he’s the best mutant character and really one of the best villains ever
Me too❤
1:39 that is all.
Yep. With all due respect to Jennifer Lawrence, she ain't got nothin on Rebecca Romjin.
Rebecca Romjin = real mystique
Jennifer Lawrence = wannabe cosplayer
that thang is thangin'
Much agreed
@@PistolSovereign I cant stand Lawrence as superhero Mystique
0:14
Great scene.
Magneto's dorky helmet
blocks any kind of telepathy. 😆
Not against Jean's telepathy in the comics.
Q
If there's one thing the series got right, among others is how regal Magneto is and how he is one fantastic villain
Villain?
Him just leaving Charles like that felt- Wrong!
@@swaminathanbalakrishnan1399 ya villian, bad guy...
@@matthewschwartz6607 I know, it's diabolical
@@Joecbg100 - Is that in character for Erik? He didn’t seem all that genocidal in the first movie .
In 2003 this movie came out. Even back then it was VERY impressive.
1:39 Thank You Filmmakers
The weight of this scene hasn’t hit me until long after I saw it in theaters as a kid. I was 9 when this came out.
Magneto was the only one able to withstand the attack because of his helmet, but decided to fight fire with fire.
You tried to exterminate all of us by manipulating my old friend. You miscalculated. I helped build the original cerebro and know exactly how to reverse the circuitry and panels.
Beautifully done.
"How does it look from there, Charles? Still fighting the good fight?"
0:43-0:46 this shot is glorious
“From here it doesn’t look like there playing by your rules, MAYBE IT’S TIME TO PLAY BY THERE’S…!!!”
0:18
Magneto: Nice try jason!
Mystique😏😉🇺🇲🔥
It’s weird that magneto just leaves the base after this. He knows the x men have a teleporter with them and could do exactly what they did in undoing what magneto did.
It’s not weird at all when you unpack it.
He’s not the hero, but he’s a tad merciful. He was the only one able to stop what was happening. You can only imagine the rage he must’ve felt knowing striker tried to kill all the mutants at once by manipulating his old friend.
He’s not settling at just stopping the attack. He’s going to reverse the attack onto the attacker. Force striker and all humans to feel what was just inflicted on all mutants.
If he were without mercy he would’ve prevented the x men from entering until all humans were dead. He succeeded in responding to an attack and sending a message.
I know he was a genius and helped to build this kind of device but still, that was impressive.
1:39 bakery
Magneto/Erik: "how does it look over there, Charles? Still defending a good to defending? From here, it doesn't make they by your rules. Maybe it's time to play by theirs rules!" "Goodbye, Charles."
Good... good.... but now try again.
@@Marzano15 He's making a joke about the captioning.
The best character and extremely intelligent, wise to calculated decisions or infringe pain to Cerebro when it's necessary or even the Infrastructure Telecom Red and the Elite who cause harmful to other mutants like him.
Long time ago in the arcades, he was my main character in marvel vs capcom series fighting games. He allowed me to express and experience what its like to play god in the video games. He is and always will be my bad boy childhood love. 😍😍🤩
X2 had my favorite live action Magneto.
Ian kills it in this role. But Magneto leaving Charles to die never sat well with me. And him trying to wipe out the whole human race honestly made Magneto just as bad as Stryker.
The plan is to kill all non mutants. Charles would be fine. (Emotionally fucked though.) The Xmen are in the visinaty, they would just break him out. With all the proto humans dead.
Not everyone's going to know how to deal with people born with superpowers, and this is the result.
Yeah, this was kind of weird .
@@vidarthorsby2052 - He’s still taking advantage of him and using him as a weapon.
@@matthewschwartz6607 when it comes to magneto it’s not surprising
Although he would never want to hurt Charles or kill him doesn’t mean he’s against using him to further his goals of mutant superiority even though Charles would be guilty af as long as it doesn’t kill him he’s fine with using him
Xavier's argument: humans and mutants can learn to coexist for mutual advantage.
Magneto's argument: our two peoples are never going to get along, so your side needs to die.
1:37 solid "mind the cape" moment!
Man I love the sound of Magneto's power!
When flips the script is a character: "Ladies and gentlemen i present to you Erik Lensherr, Magneto"
who's here after Deadpool 3 announcement?
A deep shame we'll never get to see him onscreen with the likes of Tom Hiddleston's Loki, Elizabeth Olsen's Wanda, Josh Brolin's Thanos, etc.
Iconic Actors and Character Marvel 😍
wanda, lmao
wanda? rly?
@@egeerdem8272 Why wouldn't he be with his daughter?
@@egeerdem8272 wether you like it or not, Elizabeth has done a great job as Wanda
Magneto is the best for me.
YO THIAACCCC
This is how powerful xavier is bruh
When I see Magneto trying to avoid genocyce of Mutants by trying to do the same with humans, I see a certain character of AOT. Guess Who?
AOT?
YEAGERBOMB!
0:10, the only moment in the trilogy where Charles and Raven appear together
Ah i love the subtle things like this scene. How Magneto smirks while tapping his “ dorky helmet” the clear awe as Mystique watches. People wondering how Magneto knows which panels to move must remember that both Magneto and Prof X built Cerebro together. Also th fact that Magneto was willing to let X die is totally in character. Yes Magneto has great respect for Charles X but he was hurt to many times by humans and this pushes him to win no matter the cost. Here X is just another sacrifice for the cause. This is what’s missing from today’s stories.
I don't think Xavier was going to die. I think Magneto was saying goodbye because he knew Xavier would never forgive him.
On the thumbnail he is about to dab...
Mystique got a booty
xmen 3 : Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live.
x2: good bye charles
This is different than from the 3rd movie, if he had succeeded, there would only be mutates, magneto would have won, but in the third movie, Charles dies at the hands of another mutant (Jean), Erik wouldn’t want that to be his friend end, but if Charles death leading to mutants salvation, he’s gladly accommodate
@@rafiqalim I never thought that Charles would die by doing that. I took it to mean that Erik knows their friendship will be over for good if it really happens. Can you imagine how Charles would feel when the illusion wore off and he saw he had been used to murder a few billion people? Would he have ever forgiven Erik? I think that’s why Erik was saying goodbye, he was acknowledging that he’d crossed a huge line in using Charles as a weapon.
@@hopejaworski9097 there’s a reason y they call either old friend, though what they fighting for are similar, neither will sacrifice their values for the other, Charles won’t allow Erik to kill people for the good of mutants, Erik won’t stop what he’s doing when Charles go against him.
He said goodbye as in leaving him with his final task.
@@BlackDiamond2718- I took it to mean as he was LEAVING him to die! He didn’t seem to have plans to come back to rescue him.
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at 0.25 is what you came for.
I remeber watching as a kid this scene, seperate from the movie and thought to myself „oh no, celebro is ugly now"
Good thing I remembered the human killing configuration from when Charles and I practiced
magneto number 1
Wow😍
So I get how Eric is able to stave off the effects of Jason/Leech, but why wasn't Mystique affected?
I think Jason needs to make direct eye contact to start the manipulation.
It’s why she kept her distance from him
Just b4 this clip, ALL mutants (including Mystique) were about to die...Magneto shut down Cerebro with his pwrs. *THEN he opens the door and we get this
I always thought he did that to show off
Why did he have to rearrange Cerebro? Couldn't Mystique just give him the new orders regardless?
As he helped build/engineer cerebro, he knows how to rewire it so that it can find humans instead of mutants. I don't think it would have worked as effectively if it was configured in the original format to find mutants. Also this is an incomplete cerebro so its possible the real cerebro never needed this rearrangement and could be in both modes.
But the main reason is that it looks cool
@@IronicSonics I find it strange that certain panels have to be in certain places for Cerebro to locate humans vs. mutants. It's not like each group is entirely in the directions that their panels correspond to.
@@kjhuang Its just for cinematic effect.
@@kjhuang I assume they showed panels for effect but more realistically he probably moved some wires around and whatnot
@@kjhuang it's like switching jumpers on a motherboard. Depending on the jumper position, it'll have a certain effect.
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so did magneto completely retool cerebro by moving a few metal panels?
That was the closet mystique came to seeing Charles again.
So Jason can't understand that it's the Mystique who gave him order lol ? Jason was savage Tho.
He was lobotomized. Who knows how much he was able to comprehend, and he didn’t see Mystique at any point. He saw Magneto, then he heard and saw his “father” saying there was a change of plans.
@@hopejaworski9097
Stryker lobotomized his son?
Why?
@@terminallove3531 because he drove his mother insane with his powers and she committed suicide. Grief stricken, Stryker decided to weaponize him. A running theme in Xmen is that humanity actually has every reason to fear and even hate mutants....they are inoridinately DANGEROUS...power manifestation can range from harmless to deadly, and from deadly on a local scale to "Who set off the nuke?" and that's before you factor in that level of power warping the psyche of the pubescent mind that manifests it. In some cases (Wither comes to mind) it can even come with a specific HUNGER to consume others. And Wither was a kid that WANTED to be good, but eventually his sanity just collapsed. and there's never really any way to tell by looking what you're going to get.
Nevermind (this is canon, and is actually being indirectly addressed for the first time in decades in the recent AXE *Avengers vs Xmen vs Eternals* storyline), Mutants are a result of Celestials mucking with early human DNA to create three new subspecies of human..Eternals, Deviants, and Latents. Eternals are living gods, Deviants mutate wildly with each new entity, and latants are basicly deciants who START human, but can manifest in any number of ways. and then ther'es a small percentage of unaffected humans that know deep down on a genetic level that they have competition. Meanwhile the Celestials and thier machines guide species on a worldwide level telepathically. in previous confrontations with the Eternals, when the Celestials were actually paying attention, they simply made the Avengers forget why they were confronting the Eternals and peacefully go home to leave them about thier business just by THINKING about it. In the current storyline though, the Celestials as a whole aren't doing that..but the erstatz Progenitor that was created is casually mentally scanning and judging EVERYONE ON THE PLANET simultaneously and seperately. and that's just ONE of them.
So the great irony is, Xavier's and other mutants'spiel about mutants being "natural evolution" is and has always been utter BS, and the belief is likely being FORCED on him.
Genetics is among the most powerful forces in the universe even from our small planet. You see the strength of gorillas, the speed of cheetahs, the stamina and intelligence of humans, the mysterious gifts of snakes, spiders, and other creatures from nature alone. With that power infused into people with their regular anatomy, they are unstoppable. We should praise such development.
@@BlackDiamond2718 which has nothing to do with the "fact" that in this fictional universe, gnatural evolution isn't involved so much as interferance form giant space aliens, messing with people's bodies and minds.
If everything in the marvel universe was connected. When Stryker and Magneto had Charles try to kill the mutants and humans, would the avengers and other heroes (the ones with actual powers) fall into the mutant category or the human category?
Some are debatable, but most are not mutants, all original movie avengers are humans, with one enhanced human and one asgardian, later on Maximoff could be considered a mutant, and i honestly don't know about wanda.
vision is neither, so there's that, and Carol danvers is human, so is quill, even as half human. Not sure what would happen to Rocket or Groot, but i would guess All enhanced individuals would survive, so thor, loki, gamora, the hulk, etcetera, they are pretty resistant.
Probably not .
@@victorlosadahernandez7125visions an alien robot,quicksilver and Scarlett witch are mutants like their father Eric Magnus lensher. Captain America is a creation. Thor is a god like Phoenix (not jean grey)
@@victorlosadahernandez7125visions an alien robot,quicksilver and Scarlett witch are mutants like their father Eric Magnus lensher. Captain America is a creation. Thor is a god like Phoenix (not jean grey)
The Avengers and other heroes would mostly fall into the human category. Even if Hulk and Captain America are enhanced humans, they are still human nonetheless. The only ones who wouldn't be affected by Charles's psychic attacks are Thor, Loki, Valkyrie, Korg, Vision, and the Guardians of the Galaxy since they're not mutants nor are they humans. Although, i'm not sure about Star Lord because he is half human and I don't know if his half celestial genes can shield him from Charles.
Does anyone else wonder how he knew what panels to move where?
Magneto helped Prof X build the original Cerebro.
That’s why Magneto wants Cerebro. Because when combined with a telepath like Xavier, he can commit literal genocide. Xavier can kill all mutants if he wants to using Cerebro
He helped Charles build Cerebro.
@@emorynox5395 The issue i always had with this scene is less with could he do it and more could he do it on the fly without looking at a configuration schematic for reference. He is taking unmarked plates and moving them to specific but still unmarked locations. Unless his mutant power includes an eidetic memory it does stand out as an example of "because its cool/dramatic for me to do it this way."
Wasn’t it said that he helped him build it?
Remind me - it´s been a while since I watched X2 - How is Jason able to mind-control Professor X? Xavier is supposed to be OP af.
X has suppressors applied by Stryker from earlier. They lower his ability to resist being mind controlled.
Did Mystique understand what was going on here? Because without any protection from the professor, wouldn’t she have died as well??
Adictos a f12
He didn't save him? Uncle Erik's love and loyalty and $ 2.25 will get you on the bus.
for some reason the xmen ip has more interesting stuff than the avengers or orther groups of heroes, you got giant killer robots, a special computer used by a psychic, a school for muntants the concept of mutants themselves in constant conflicts with humans, idk
If he had succeded.it would have been a desolate world. No food maybe and internal mutant strife.
Not sure. Even a minute % of the population is enough to form a self-sustaining colony
Is this Mastermind?
Why didn’t he rescue Charles?
Still don't understand why magneto change the panels
This Cerebro is specifically designed by Striker for Charles to find and kill only mutants, not humans. So, if they want Charles to find humans too, it is necessary to make changes to this Cerebro, and that is precisely what Magneto is doing in this scene.
LOL Magneto gave Jason a shit eating grin!
I don’t understand. Why did Magneto even have to rearrange the metal wall panels? What effect did that have on the use of Cerebro?
In a later scene, Jean talks about how Magneto reversed Cerebro to not target the Mutants, but everyone else (IE, the humans) instead. So, those panels and their placement on the walls of Cerebro must have some effect in amplifying or directing Charles' powers.......
I wish they would have took Jason with them
Magneto is already paranoid with Charles being able to enter his mind at any time.
They didn't really know Jason. But, they needed Jason to be there to persuade Charles to find the humans.
I could never understand the logic. Why didn't they off Striker and Xavier and make things easier for themselves in the first place?
Because if Magneto ever killed Charles, no mutants would ever follow him He would be a pariah. It would most likely be the equivalent of Malcolm X killing Dr.King.
I don't really get Magneto moving parts of the walls I mean what does it do?
What's the point of placing those metal pieces back?
Won’t Magneto feel bad about Charles?
A reprograming?
That‘s not how circuits work 😄
It's a bit silly but not as silly as you calling BS on a science fiction macguffin
Honestly, at this point Magneto became a moustache twirling villain. Using his old friend to commit genocide, much like the nazis but bigger scale is just hardly a complex antagonist anymore.
Yeah I'm going to be honest I don't like how they did magneto in this scene this scene in fact it wasn't was originally supposed to be magneto saving proffser x but for some reason they decided to change it I mean don't get me wrong I like x men 2 it's my favourite x men film next to days of future past and logan and the deadpool movies
What did he mean when he said “Goodbye.”?
The dam the base that housed the dark version of Cerebro was hidden in was ruptured, and Magneto was leaving him there to die after killing the humans......
@@19TheFallen - Is that in character for Magneto? It seems pretty cold .
@@matthewschwartz6607 Depends on the version. Generally speaking, though, not really.......The way they showed this version, though, is to be a colder, more calculating person.......Likely due to the traumas he experienced while he was younger. And yet, not incapable of learning and growing past that coldness, as shown by his actions in _Days of Future Past._ In many scenes, he showed a deep regret for the deeds he carried out, and was shown trying to atone for them.
He meant that their friendship was over. If Charles survived after killing every human, he and Magneto could never be friends again.
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Rearranging the tiles made no sense. But was spectacular nonetheless.
I never understood why he did that
@@leeholman3964 So it would target humans instead of mutants. Why not just watch the movie? It's a fictional science fiction device - the people calling out "how it works" are... idiots.
Incomplete Cerebro. One with full plate stacked walls would detect every being worldwide. Original X Mansion Cerebro can detect everyone worldwide. Back under lake, it was built like that on short announce and time and to speed up the game to reach mutants. For Magneto's plan to kick off he needed rearranging from only mutants (1st plated walls design) to only humans (2nd plated walls design) to go for the kill.
And it worked to an extent.
Magneto helped Charles build Cerebro, so he knew how to work it .
So why did Magneto move the walls again?
To redesign the Cerebro to target the humans instead of the mutants
@@OutCast907 Thanks!
@@OutCast907 OK, but was it really necessary? I never got why this wall moving makes any difference on cerebro functioning.
@@mailson4526 *rewiring
@@mailson4526 it's mainly done because it looks cool in the movie.
If the thing on Charles's head blocks his telepathy, how doesn't it block Jason from entering his mind?
it doens't block telepathy..only the helmet on MAGNETO'S head does that. the rig on Xavier's head AMPLIFIES telepathy. so if anything it's making him that much more receptive once you get past his normally formidible defences. In the comics, he once used Cerebro to telepathically connect with every mind on earth, human and mutent, to use thier collective mental power to fend off an alien invasion. The effort left him in a coma for months, but it worked. It should also be mentioned that this was back in the days where Xavier was delibrately editing his own mind to repress his baser instincts..and his dark side would pop up and manifest itself as a seperate personality now and again. You've heard of Onslaught, right? that only happened when Xavier's dark side also happened to mix with MAGNETO'S, creating a gestalt entity. but it wasn't the only time something like that happened, and even without magneto's added abilities, he was a handful. If they ever do revive xmen, tha'ts actually something i would LOVE to see Patrick Stewart play...Dark Xavier...gleefull, malicious puppet master.
@@alexsolomon7991 I'm afraid Multiverse of Madness was his last time in this role...But if it doesn't block his telepathy, how couldn't he mind control Striker in the scene where he introduces his son?
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p they said that for Logan too...but you're probably right. And remember that the senior Mr. Stryker was using a drug derived from his son's cranial fluid to mind control people.
The drug, combined with the illusion of the little girl asking Xavier "find them, help them". Was enough to manipulate Xavier to acting as a battery for strikers version of cerebro without being consciously aware of what he was doing. Magneto who helped design the original version of cerebro, knew how to recalibrate the device to affect humans and then using mystique to assume the role of striker's father use the addled but quite powerful striker Jr to further manipulate Xavier again. Basically, he was caught off guard and slipped a mickey.
He is doing a sexy pose in the air...btw, how does he fly if he clearly isn't standing on his metal shoes, his legs are hanging? Metal underpants?
I thought he had metal in his clothes.
Idk if he is magnetic himself. Could be like dr doom in F4. There might be metal or something that allows him.
@@gregorymoore2877 in third movie Beast stabbed him with plastic darts through his clothes.
He doesn't actually fly. He uses the magnetism to create a force from the ground that pushes him up, so he's like hovering
@@heisenberg8083 He isn't metal, how does that work?
Tamuz pryect
Does Magneto actually have the scientific know-how to reconfigure Cerebro?
he helped build it
@@sawmorebuttz In First class Beast did it
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p In X Men (2000) Professor X says that Erik helped him build Cerebro. X men: First Class came later and retconned that.
@@danlower7834- Didn’t they build it together in that movie, too?
Why did he have to levitate himself? 😂
Law of coolness
That was Ian Mck Ellen’s idea, dramatic effect
Is this in character for Magneto?
Yes. He loves Charles but he would sacrifice even him to protect mutant kind. Just like he did with Mystique in DOFP.
Magneto was not wrong for that, they were going to use a mutant to kill all mutants so he just reversed it 🤷🏻♂️. Fuck that !
It's the same corruption, the other way around. It makes no sense to kill the humans that are not trying to kill the mutants, even if one belives in capital punishment.
@@jaimeduncan6167 🤷🏻♂️ oops my bad, will never do it again 😁, oh wait 🤣 (Mission Complete).
Thanos can kill Magneto
Jason couldn't mind control Mystique?
He was pretty much lobotomized to only do what daddy told him to. If he had been in full control of his faculties I'm fairly certain he would have been mind screwing everyone.
Jason doesn't directly do mind control. He puts images in people's heads and those images can be persuasive. He most likely did not know Mystique was there.
@@gregorymoore2877 yup. that plus the drug his dad made form his cranial fluid=mind control.
@@gregorymoore2877 I guess he was focused on Charles and Eric...
Oh, he could.......Thing is.....Mystique disguised herself as his father, who had held him captive and tortured him into submission for decades, bending him to his will. So, all Jason saw and heard was his father telling him to make Charles target the humans instead. Not Mystique.