Kobo Elipsa vs Remarkable 2 Comparison
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- This is an epic showdown between two of the most important brands in the digital note taking sector, Remarkable and Kobo. In this video we will look at the drawing experience, reading ebooks and PDF files. You will really get a sense on what one is better, since we rank them.
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fantastic! was looking at the remarkable for awhile but just saw an add for the Kobo Elipsa which I already own a previous Kobo device. immediately looked up the review on here and 100% ready to get the ellipsa
Thanks Peter!!
The new way of presenting the review is more effective.
Yay. A showdown as I requested. Many thanks!
I actually think the Elipsa is very good looking. I really appreciate the "family" heritage with the Forma and Libra H2O. The slight tapering adds a sense of style and functionality with what I hope is better weight distribution for when you hold it in one hand to read books. To me it shows that Kobo is trying to make sure it doesn't make the reading experience inferior to their other devices while adding all of the note-taking capabilities.
Thanks for this review. Super helpful!
The BEST comparison review by far. I just got the Elipsa and I was still thinking about the remarkable as design and writing capabilities, however, the price put me of a bit.
Now I know that I have bought the BEST one for my needs. Thanks for the true and accurate review. Keep up the good work. You have a new dedicated subscriber 🙂
I feel the Kobo is more user friendly..But remarkable is more aesthetically pleasing :)
Nice review Peter! I liked your format and the energy during the video.
Thanks for the video. What about taking notes in the ebooks. Are the notes stored in the ebook itself? I mean inside the ebook file so you can read it including the notes on other devices? The reMarkable is not able to deal with this
If I were to buy a remarkable, it would only replace my notepad. I do use one for work a lot so it's an ideal replacement. Only the price puts me off!
You didn’t compare latency or writing feel. Two massive categories where nothing seemingly can match reMarkable.
except the Onyx Air/ Note 3, and even faster on X Mode.
So... I take notes with Elipsa. I draw on a pdf or other ebook, mark it up, highlight 22 pages in a 500 page book. What now? Is there a way to export those comment pages? Look them up or search through them? Export them for use elsewhere? Or are they just there somewhere in that 500 page book....? If I have 500 books, can I see which ones have notes in them? Can I toggle the notes on/off so they aren't distracting while reading? If I use a program like Calibre to manage my books, do the changes/markups synch back to Calibre as a 2nd version of the pdf/epub?
Exactly, review without details..
I want to know 2
Follow up video coming very soon as we said in the review :-)
Oh how I would love to be able to sync the notes you write on the Elipsa with the Libra so that I can read them from there.
Is there voice to text on Elipsa? Seems not. Like to see it against Onyx Air. Also I’ve heard there’s lag time with Elipsa pen? Any more info on that?
With reMarkable, can I take notes, then when that page is full, start notes on another page?
and then when It comes to using notes, is it easy to switch between pages of notes you have previously taken?
So should a note taking device that happens to awkwardly let you read ebooks be compared to an ereader that allows some note-taking?
Hi can there be a comparison between nova 3/nova 3 color vs kobo elipsa?
Thank you for this. Looking forward to kobo elipsa vs Onyx Boox note air too :-)
Will the Elipsa ever have other choices of Sleep Cover color? I pre-ordered, but i don't really like the color.
How is screen refresh between them? In the b-roll you used for each, there were noticeable refresh lags in the kobo video, but I didn't notice the same for the remarkable. How responsive is the stylus for both?
I'm surprised price and availability weren't in your comparison list! It would also of been nice to see how easy it is to generate a note, convert it to text, rename the file then store it somewhere within your own directory hierarchy. It would also be interesting to know how easy it is to back files up and in what country those files are kept. It also makes you wonder whether Amazon is going to produce an ewriter anytime soon.
As we stated in the video, you can see the individual reviews of each of these and there are links in the description to our store page
The price is very pretty drastically based on where you buy these units, that and the ellipsa isn't available for another month :-)
There are frankly only 2 reasons I will likely be getting the kobo over the remarkable. First of all, the backlight, because I want to use it as an e-reader and at night that is essential, and because the kobo has a dictionary and can translate words, which is helpful for me because I would like to use the kobo to help read and take notes to study other langauges. Unfortunately the remarkable 2 is so attractive that it makes the decision very difficult.
I've been a satisfied user of a Kobo Aura One for 6 years. It is simply fantastic and the openness is a great value. I use Calibre to synchronize library (even over the air with Calibre exposing a private website to let you browse and download ebooks on the fly) and reading experience is totally awesome in every light condition (from the complete pitch black inside an airplane to the sunniest day at the beach). I will stick with Kobo because It's constantly updated after these many years and because once I had firmware update problems that were excellently addressed and resolved by their dedicated an committed local (in Italian) helpdesk people.
What is the battery life like. My rm2 i get almost
A Months use out of
Could you do a comparison between Onyx Boox note air and Kobo Elipsa? Thanks
There's no comparison needed. The boox wins.
@@r0000g well accept for battery. I am one of all people that got problems with battery swelling after only three months and had to return it. I have never had that problem with any of the kobo devices (I have 4 of them now)
Good e-Readerさん、いつも分かりやすい動画をありがとうございます。
I think Kobo Elipsa is currently the only platform that allows you to leave handwritten notes on DRM books.(Sorry if there are others.)
I understand that DRM is necessary to protect copyrighted material, but it is also true that we are moving away from the convenience of paper.
Ideally, I'd like to see freely available e-books without DRM, but at the very least, I'd like to see companies provide handwritable platforms like Elipsa.
So far the Kobo seems to be more practical. Could you go over in detail it's note taking functionality and text conversion? Which is the whole point of this device.
There are individual reviews on his page
I like my book read to me while I read. Somehow, I remember when I see but process faster when I hear. So right now, my Alexa (accessibility feature) read the same books that are on my kindle. But Kobo doesn't seem to do that. Plus, I still can't justify it all with the price when I have a laptop, iPad pro and kindle.
I enjoyed this review. I will defentely buy the Kobo, as it's a bigger screen and that is all I wanted. Although I have a Kobo account already
I choose Elipsa, because of backlight and other functionalities.
The remarkable has no backlit? Jesus is that a joke
Can you write over ePubs in either? I read a lot of finance books and would love to write down notes on the book and export to my computer if needed.
Hi, thanks for your comparison. I've used Remarkable 2 for 2 weeks and now I'm using Kobo Elipsa, but I'm still undecided... In my opinion RM2 is more stable, more beautiful, more responsive, but is only useful to take note, that could be a good thing if this is your main scope. My doubt about RM2 are the following: the price and the connect feature: I don't want to pay every month for features that are standard in Kobo Elipsa. If I dont pay for connect, I will lose the text conversion, the dropbox feature, the send email feature. What do you think about this considerations? Thanks again.
You have expressed my concern. I want the limited scope of the remarkable but don’t want to pay forever for free functionality….
How about a comparison between KOBO Elipsa and onyx boox note 3, please? Thank you~
I can attest that the Microsoft stylus pen does work on the kobo elipsa and the kobo sage (which i have), although you don’t get the extra 2 button functionality offered on the kobo stylus. I also read that certain Samsung pens work as well, but I haven’t tested it myself.
That is a very good piece of information. Thank you so much :-)
Excellet! Kobo is the one I was waiting for since Kindle DX! Thanks
Same here, it sucked when my kindle dx's screen died. Reading technical books on a small screen is horrible.
What about the screen quality? The writing experience seems better on the remarkable (less latency), do you confirm?
I just want some for taking notes for class and work. ReMarkable or the Kobo?
Anyone know of websites that could be trusted to buy ebooks without any DRM?
Can you install your own app on Kobo? Why im asking is that in Poland we’ve polish book store (Legimi) where you can have a monthly subscription and read books with no need of buying them, which is really handy.
Can I read Kindle books on Kobo?
Now we need a Kindle version.
Is any of the two waterproof?
I have the Sony Digital Paper System DPT-S1, it’s a great note taker and I suppose the largest screen on the market (13.3”). I bought the original Remarkable 1 and tried to transfer all my notes from the DPT-S1 to the Remarkable, but they didn’t format properly. Apparently there are different formats of writeable PDFs and each tablet can use a different one and not support others.
Now I want to get the KOBO Elipsa cause it will convert my handwritten notes to text, but I still want to transfer all my Sony DPT-S1 handwritten notes to the Elipsa as well...do you know if the Elipsa will properly support PDFs from my Sony device. You guys must have both devices, can you check this out for me ? I would really appreciate it, thanks
You should add that the monthly subscription of Remarkable 2 costs 7.99 $. You can refuse it, but in this case you cannot use all the feathers of this device.
I really want to preorder the kobo, but I skeep having some very specific questions from a very individual use case perspective that I also find hard to explain. I wish I could have my hands on it for some short and quick tests on the note taking part, but I guess I’ll just take the bet and order it anyway because I’ve been obsessed with the Elipsa since the day it was presented 😁
How has your experience been with it?
I agree with over all review, but people tend to underestimate the value of the experience. I love using the Remarkable 2 for the full writing experience. It is this pleasantness that keeps me using it day in and day out. The Remarkable’s form factor, aesthetics, and writing capabilities trumps all the other functions that are missing. Would I like the additional functionality. You bet!. Would I give up my Remarkable 2? Only for the Remarkable 3!!
agree!
Agree! Maybe I will become a remarkable fan once the 3rd generation comes up🙂. Even if they help you stay focused on thinking and creating we live in a world where you need more functionality..and going to plane simple feels weard 😀.
The design and writing capabilities are amazing to be honest..but my elipsa is good for me now.
What about a likebook p10 vs elipsa?
I agree! Please could do you do a review? I'm in time to return mine to buy the elipsa. Thank you very much.
Umm. "Function" and "other" were the same category... True score? Both 3/4
Hey. Dont quite agree with you. Still great review you still helped me figure out what to buy. Thanks!
does elipsa read text?
I’m looking for an e-reader where I can make notes in the book itself as I read. The new Kindle won’t do it and Kobo elipsa does it, so it’s Kobo for me.
Let the 10 inch kindle rumors begin.
The Elipsa looks good, but honestly, the remarkable’s limitations are exactly what I am looking for. This is for an education environment where I do not want a browser or other apps. Not for bed time use (no tablet should be), so the backlight/glow light isn’t relevant. The only flaw I see in the remarkable is the requirement for subscription for basic functionality. If I can choke down the subscription fee, it’s perfect. Looking for another one/trick pony now….
What’s the notebook templates like on the Elipsa? Is there variety like the remarkable and can you create your own custom templates? Or does the elipsa just have lined templates?
Also how does the script to text functions compare between the elipsa and remarkable?
Hey guys! I currently have to read a lot of academic articles for school. I've been using a remarkable and the screen is a bit too small for my liking. I was wondering if you could do a top 10 list of the best 13 inch e-readers?
@Quintus Horatius Flaccus I think the Onyx Boox Max Lumi is 13 inch... As well as the Sony DPT spin off devices like the Papyr. I'm holding out hope that the new 13 inch DPT is going to have decent availability whenever it releases... But yah a top 5 would probably be more realistic
there are also plain 13 monitors (not devices). Two or three if you do your homework. Also 13 inchers with device functionality in the pipeline if you can wait. Also the NXT paper, not exactly sure of the technology. the musicians use Guido, there is also a 2 page 13 incher favored by musicians with strong income/assets, possibly on good e-reader site. Happy hunting!
@@skellymanz5084 also try to look into the color Reinkstone R1, they are taking pre-orders (locking in 31% off retail or something) for $1, you get updates and can opt out of purchase. It is getting ready for the crowdfunding avenue I think.
@@janicenunn8525 thanks I will!
Pueden hacer un review de los notebooks de la marca geniatech
Why you don’t talk about screen and contrast?
I don’t think having a web browser is that big of a deal but just my opinion. Everyone has a phone or computer for that. Remarkable is trying to replace the paper while others are trying to replace an iPad
Not having a browser is paramount to my search. This will be for my child and I want this to be with him as much as he likes. I do not want the internet available to him that much.
What about the battery life on both? 😅
Boyue Likebook P10 versus Kobo Ellipsa. I think the two lower priced options. Is the P10 still a good value given the poorer software and screen?
@Quintus Horatius Flaccus thanks. But almost twice the price... is it worth that? Hmm. I have a likebook muses. It works although clunky.
Finally!
"It is one hundred dollar more". More than what? Isn't $99-$49=$50...
Love my remarkable.
The POINT of the reM2 is that does nothing but e-paper. And it does that perfectly. No distractions, no internet, no extras. If I want bells and whistles I would use an iPad with a paperlike cover. So full marks for function to reM2!
Kobo Ellipsa vs ONYX BOOX Lomonosov please🙏🙏
Nobody reads PDFs on kobo with its stock software. Koreader is used for PDFs on Kobos. (To tell the truth, without pen...) Remarkable also runs koreader... On a 10" screen, serious user still cuts the margin cleverly and does multi colum and rotations (using gestures all the time, as a serious user can't live without gestures). Only the 13" screen won't require margin tricks (to make serious PDFs consumable).
Good comparison, although I’m not with you on the “more is more” viewpoint. The Kobo is getting closer to becoming an iPad, but then why not just use the iPad?
I use a Kobo Aura for reading books and the remarkable for work, and both give me exactly what I need for each task. Sure, having the kobo store and backlight on the remarkable would be great, and could eventually also replace my Aura, but “games”?!!! “web browsing”?!!! “audio”?!!! There’s absolutely no value in these since 1) they are really just noise when aí want to concentrate on reading or reviewing a doc; 2) I have my iphone with me for that and I’m sure does it better than the kobo.
I guess poeple like me appreciate being able to read on less-glaring screens such as the Kobo as compared to iPads
As a writer who wants to write handwriting to text, without distraction, ReMarkable 2 would be smarter, fewer functions to distract me with, and the handwriting to text function isn't as limited or strict as the elipsa from what I've gathered.
Guess what I'm saying is, I'm not looking for an e-reader, so I guess those functions and stats have no influence on my choice.
No dictionary/spellcheck is a big thing though.. and no backlight kinda sucks too.
Kobo all the way. Been with them 10 years.
Please, talk about pdf reading experience
please watch each individual ereader reviews
@@goodereader i'm referring to kobo elipsa, i saw the full review but there is no mention of the pdf reading experience, like zooming, scrolling between pages or moving from page to another distante page, the hyperlinks; and if it is able to handle large pdf files (>100mb). I'm interested in the product but i need to know if it is good for studying/accademic purpose. Thanks for the reviews and the answer, and sry for my english.
Given Kobo's record record up to now it will most likely be very baad experience.
The remarkable is focused on writing experience and is now gaining traction for illustration. The number one reason people buy remarkable, writing and drawing experience, is not even mentioned.
Great review - thank you. I have the first Remarkable, and it was disappointing from the beginning - beautiful to look at, but barely useful (for me) because they never came around with any integration with anything else. I was disappointed with the Boox Nova 3 because it couldn't *really* run any Android apps well - they were very laggy. Kobo might be satisfying because it doesn't have the burden of too many demands (full Android), but it still has some flexibility.
How much will it cost in India? I have been using Kindle for the last 11 years. How does Kindle compare with this?
Till now kobo is not released in india.
@@harshwardhanbahirat5692 Thank You. Do let me know. I liked this product.
I think that reMarkable's purpose is that you won't get distracted. They didn't want to present an all-rounder, they wanted to present a writing device. For me personally, the kobo Elipsa isn't the right thing. For anything else than reading and writing, I have a usual tablet and that's much better for this stuff.
Exactly, if they keep adding wifi features and other stuff, you might as well get a real tablet..... The porpuse of note taking devices should be focuss on note taking, and E-Reades on reading
Technically speaking, Remarkable 2 can transfer files using it's USB mode. It's not advertised, but it's in there.
And for the more technically inclined, you can SSH into it and dig around it's contents.
No offense but being distraction free isn't an excuse its a feature that made me know immediately I needed the remarkable over any other device. If you can watch CZcams you have a device that can do anything the kobo can do extra anyway
It is an excuse, they're trying to use it as a selling point. The Onyx books Note 3 and air are both just as distraction free as the remarkable, but with onyx, you get Google play, onboard audio, APK files, a glow light, and just about every other feature imaginable
3:18 Wait, Elipsa supports audio books???
yes, more on this in a future vid !
@@goodereader kobo told me it doesn’t 😕
@@yourlotusflower4414 well, they have bluetooth enabled on the device because it's capable to do so, but at lunch, it either will not do any audio, or only have a few markets
Koba Elipsa vs Boox Note Air and the Nova 3 (not color), please.
"No other pen is gonna work on the Kobo" - that's incorrect. The pens with MPP (Microsoft Pen Protocol) will work.
The review is misleading (or outdated): Kobo might be slightly better for reading, but Remarkable 2 is essentially a business tablet. Not only it integrates with OneDrive, DropBox etc. you can also share your tablet screen during zoom meetings via the companion app. The app is a good addition: you can write something on your tablet and then read on your phone (we do not always carry ereaders with us, do we?). As to ebooks, downloading them on my PC and then syncying via the app is not a big deal imho - it is easier to search and by on a desktop anyway.
Honestly, to me the kobo stylus has the cons of needing the AAAA. I think the remarkable 2's stylus with no charge needed and its universality is a much better solution, plus it is lighter that is very important about a pen when ypu need to write a lot! On the other hand, the lack of enlightening on the remarkable 2 is a very huge cons.
Shit... Elipsa just seems better. You are right with ReMarkable 2 its all about that marketing. I need to take notes on pdfs and then put them into a word document after i jot them down. If the Remarkable 2 did that it would be a no brainer... but its this missing function (can't copy/paste handwritten note from a pdf to a text document), and all the little things that its missing has really done it in. Goodbye Remarkable. Hello Elipsa.
In my opinion, comparing these two devices is a big mistake. They were born with different goals: the Remarkable2 has the goal to keep you completely focused on your job (just as a paper note taking does) and it's the best at doing this.
Other devices (like Kobo) have multiple goals, such as reading, listening to music, chilling.
Comparing these two categories is like comparing a Racing Car with a common one saying things like "You can just Race with a racing car!".
Each customer should know what he needs from a device and then compare devices with the same goal.
Given how expensive the remarkable is I’d hope it blows the kobo out of the water
Even some non-open devices like super note even allow the Kindle app
hey host guy what like ethnic background are you, sorry just curious (:
Peter is Canadian is of mixed descent :)
onyx note air is better than kobo elipsa
I said no to remarkable due to no adjustable light. Iove the kobo but no the case. too bulky
ReMarkable is like iPhone, not really the best at anything but looks nice.
Tcl nxtpaper will blow both of these out of the water
Proprietary pen is a hard stop no.
Ray William Johnson
You could say one is remarkably over priced. Ahhhhhhh you can’t say that.
Ten years later, e-readers still not even close to where I want them to be. And too much expensive compared to mobile phones that has ten times faster cpu, ram, storage and functionality. The only downside of the phones is the battery.
This tech hasn't advanced at all since 2010. CZcams commenters are still asking the same types of questions regarding functionality that should be in the device by now. Anyone remember vaporware such as Mirasol e-ink? Prices for these devices in general seem to have gone up as well despite not offering any significant improvement since then. It is now 2021. There is no excuse as to why the pdf software isn't perfect and allows users to have all options available. Really there is no reason why any company hasn't created the perfect eReader/pdf device by now. My only assumption is they purposefully keep making incomplete devices that are missing key functionality features so that can keep fooling consumers into buying their next "improved" product.
Kobo's PDF software Has always been a joke - it's abysmally bad and they have always been ignoring users' comments. They must be doing it on purpose...
@Quintus Horatius Flaccus I've heard this same reasoning back in 2010. But the issues confronting e-readers/ PDF are not hardware related but software. Software that should have been fixed a decade ago. In regards to hardware, this tech is at a dead end as the last decade has proven. It's all about the software now.
Elipsa does not have greatest reviews on Amazon.
I bought an elipsa some years ago, well major regret. it sucks arse to be honest, it's a glorified e-reader and does not live up to anything justifying a pen, I bought several kobo devices before but this is not what I expected and honestly I think me and kobo are done.
it seems writing is not so good....
Such a biased reviewer
That doesn't make any sense, we don't have any ties with either company. So you don't know what you're talking about.
And no one here at good e-reader is biased as we do not have any ties with anyone we feature on the channel
Even with the devices we create ourselves, we send them to over 10+ third party reviewers, so yeah, watch what you say. Thank you
How to contact you?
Store@goodereader.com
@@goodereader I mean private..
@@Akash-vs1yh you can email us there. I'm not sure why you want to speak with one of us privately. But we will put you in touch with the correct person to assist with your order or concern. Thank you
@@goodereader 🙂