19 Year Old Entrepreneur Shocks Dragons With Their Pitch | Dragons' Den

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  • čas přidán 8. 08. 2022
  • Christian Lane is one of the youngest entrepreneurs to pitch in The Den. He's only 19 and made 10K from his previous business which he used to fund Foldio. Christian is seeking an investment of £80,000 in exchange for 15% but what will the Dragons' think of his negotiation tactics?
    Season 4, Episode 4
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
    #DragonsDen #Foldio #YoungEntrepreneur
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Komentáře • 307

  • @MrAxelStone
    @MrAxelStone Před rokem +341

    amazing how much more mellow and less dramatic the Dragon's Den is than Shark Tank...no over the top acting cringy presentations, dramatic music only at key moments...quite refreshing change from watching Shark Tank.

    • @ExtraordinaryFate
      @ExtraordinaryFate Před rokem +11

      Shark Tank has much more enjoyable investors though. They add life to the show.

    • @billymabum3514
      @billymabum3514 Před rokem +27

      @@ExtraordinaryFate it’s scripted

    • @bounmiibeagle7550
      @bounmiibeagle7550 Před rokem +7

      I watched Cuban in action today in SS, shouting everyone down. It was a painful soap opera.

    • @chatcool74
      @chatcool74 Před rokem +1

      @@billymabum3514 Not quite ! but some parts are cut yes, to fit the show.

    • @12345ngb
      @12345ngb Před rokem +8

      DD is much better than SS any day. SS Australia is the only one that I liked so far

  • @NatalieCWilliams
    @NatalieCWilliams Před rokem +79

    Impressive and humble young man. Wish him so much success in his venture and life overall!

  • @gdog7391
    @gdog7391 Před rokem +117

    Probably the best panel on the group at any one time. All class.

    • @Hiya_Pal
      @Hiya_Pal Před rokem

      Replace Debs with James Caan 👍🏽

    • @gdog7391
      @gdog7391 Před rokem +5

      Pretty sure that’s Deborah is one of the OG’s. Also, my comment was more reflective of an actual group that has actually existed at once.

    • @noonegirl
      @noonegirl Před rokem

      What does OG mean?

    • @_u4ia_
      @_u4ia_ Před rokem +1

      @@noonegirl Original

  • @johnnyw2593
    @johnnyw2593 Před rokem +80

    That’s a perfect pitch. Short, right to the point without bells and whistles. What a smart young man.
    So many entrepreneurs are over sold their product. Performing such theatrical pitch and some won’t stop talking. Often, I find that when people keep talking is because they afraid of being challenged by the other party.

    • @TheEsotericProgrammer
      @TheEsotericProgrammer Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks a lot! I really needed that today: I am smart, and I know that now.

  • @randomtask9029
    @randomtask9029 Před rokem +37

    Should have jumped to 25% with a view to settling at 30%. 35% was too much too quickly.

  • @shmmazz
    @shmmazz Před rokem +70

    Honestly cruel of the other dragons to back out before Theo made an offer. Gave him all the leverage to ask for a bigger percentage

    • @nf6386
      @nf6386 Před rokem +4

      A bit of a D move by Theo to signal enthusiastic interest and then pause without making an offer.

    • @barobaro1
      @barobaro1 Před rokem +4

      You expected millionaires to be decent and considerate human beings???. . . I'm sorry but that's your own fault cuz they'll always disappoint you in that aspect.

    • @scienceevolves4417
      @scienceevolves4417 Před rokem +4

      @@nf6386 it's called "experience in business negotiations"

    • @hotsizler305
      @hotsizler305 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@barobaro1 Spoken like a bitter commie

  • @showbitz1
    @showbitz1 Před rokem +31

    I love how they helped him. And I noticed how theo tested him by asking him about percentage

  • @alirehman4858
    @alirehman4858 Před rokem +50

    First time seeing any dragon refusing to share with Peter Jones and that too so blatantly.

    • @jumble-1238
      @jumble-1238 Před rokem +7

      Had a feeling Theo wouldn’t budge. I think the comments all the others gave about his experience caused his arrogance to rise even higher than usual.

    • @bluerock9238
      @bluerock9238 Před rokem +3

      They were investing in the person more than his product......

    • @drnureini7538
      @drnureini7538 Před rokem +2

      @@jumble-1238 i actually think if peter went direct on sharing the money with Theo, then Theo would have accepted it. But the fact that he tried to negotiate and give 5% back on top of that for no clear reason when the pitcher is happy with the percentage was the reason Theo rejected it. It's like saying young man Theo is stealing you so me and him will join and we will give you 5% back lol.
      That's why you can also see Theo took his time to explain why he prefers to be alone and you can hint the reasons are related to the fact that peter acting like negotiating a good deal for the pitcher.
      I don't usually see Peter going wrong in negotiations but this one he went wrong , he should have either offered a competitive offer or just shared the percentage without the unnecessary blabla

    • @AbhishekSanyalTGV
      @AbhishekSanyalTGV Před 2 měsíci

      Peter back then was probably not the richest and most influential.

  • @tommydenato8863
    @tommydenato8863 Před rokem +116

    No show makes me happier than Dragons Den. Seriously.

  • @zainad3878
    @zainad3878 Před rokem +4

    Boy was so clever... He knew exactly what he was looking for

  • @codeXenigma
    @codeXenigma Před rokem +184

    Just read an article about Christian Lane, he's done pretty well. Nice to find success stories

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Před rokem

      @@zlatkostevanovic5891 Ok if you are going to secondee me, I ill Crocodile Dundee you, how about that

    • @marchumphreys3865
      @marchumphreys3865 Před rokem

      @@jessebella9322 why not ?

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Před rokem

      @@marchumphreys3865 Why not what not

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Před rokem +1

      @@marchumphreys3865 Thats true

    • @marchumphreys3865
      @marchumphreys3865 Před rokem +1

      @@jessebella9322 well before you deleted your first comment you asked why ? , so yeah I replied and said why not ? Lol Have a great day.

  • @stenkjellin1046
    @stenkjellin1046 Před rokem +21

    Patent: How to fold a paper.

  • @ck5404
    @ck5404 Před rokem +48

    excellent pitch, cool calm and collective, especially from a 19 year old.he will succeed

  • @perryrush6563
    @perryrush6563 Před rokem +5

    2:41 that is the sign of respect and appreciation

  • @keltiquewood
    @keltiquewood Před rokem +25

    Duncan declaring himself out is NOT a bombshell!!!

    • @butchcoolidge2445
      @butchcoolidge2445 Před rokem +1

      I'd agree with that. I do however think the bombshell was moreso him saying he didn't think it was a good product.

    • @Junaid-vw6zg
      @Junaid-vw6zg Před rokem +1

      @@butchcoolidge2445 he also said he could be wrong straight after

    • @butchcoolidge2445
      @butchcoolidge2445 Před rokem

      @@Junaid-vw6zg That's to save face in case it's a hit. They've been wrong before and missed out on big opportunities.

  • @carospinks
    @carospinks Před rokem +15

    Super smart, no b/s, loved how he said 35pct, see how Theo smiled and appreciated it. They will have a great working relationship. This was made a while ago and so I hope Christian is doing well under Theo’s mentorship.

  • @2strokepower
    @2strokepower Před 2 měsíci +1

    He was the best pitch going Theo didn’t even say anything bad and he usually does this the whole time

  • @stonecold6521
    @stonecold6521 Před rokem +47

    Peter should have gone for 25%. I thought that was fair.

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 Před rokem +6

      Undercutting another dragon would be too damaging to his ego.

    • @stonecold6521
      @stonecold6521 Před rokem

      @@dtz1000 I get that. That's why they very rarely undercut. It's just Theo is an expert in this area. I think 25% is fairly reasonable considering the intitial offer.

    • @davidhuckett5615
      @davidhuckett5615 Před rokem

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  • @ali-celebi
    @ali-celebi Před rokem +3

    Truly inspiring!

  • @aaronhurst4379
    @aaronhurst4379 Před rokem +7

    Apparently this guy is now CEO of smart home appliance company Smarter

  • @DeusExWhyZed
    @DeusExWhyZed Před rokem +8

    Peter was right to put that out there.

  • @cannibalfish2429
    @cannibalfish2429 Před rokem +4

    Good for him, he’s going places

  • @ianoliver7271
    @ianoliver7271 Před rokem +6

    Well done, laddie, a great performance!!

  • @pamelamckenzie2685
    @pamelamckenzie2685 Před rokem +56

    Fantastic young man, he will go far in life well done young man.

    • @itscatiooo
      @itscatiooo Před rokem +7

      keep in mind that this episode is from 10+ years ago

    • @Joe-Mama25
      @Joe-Mama25 Před rokem +3

      Well I’m pretty sure his company is dissolved now so I wonder how he’s doing.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Před rokem +1

      @@Joe-Mama25 He has another company.

  • @derekogilvie6942
    @derekogilvie6942 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely fantastic

  • @BigBundy82
    @BigBundy82 Před rokem +42

    I truly think valuing the business at 230k and investing 80k for 35% is quite fair for both parties…Theo is lucky to have such a savvy , up and coming business magnate- And the young guy is extremely lucky to have Theo onboard.. Awesome 😎

    • @alexcalhoun1382
      @alexcalhoun1382 Před rokem +7

      Bro this is 17 years old lol

    • @coldestbeer
      @coldestbeer Před rokem +3

      This was 20 years ago & i still see students from architecture carrying those black mega folders over this.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Před rokem +1

      @@coldestbeer His company dissolved because of cloud storage and tablets. He started a company that focuses on smart kitchen products which is apparently doing quite well.

  • @erepsekahs
    @erepsekahs Před rokem +7

    A VERY bright young man. He and Theo are fortunate to have met each other.

  • @jaywalkercrew4446
    @jaywalkercrew4446 Před rokem +19

    Obviously this teenager has had guidance by an elder. Take nothing away from the guy. Amazing achievements at such a young age.

    • @forhimbyher2689
      @forhimbyher2689 Před rokem +1

      Yes but also not always. I have a similar story. Started from nothing , no parents

    • @Dadaadad268
      @Dadaadad268 Před 2 měsíci

      @@forhimbyher2689😅

  • @TheMusicalElitist
    @TheMusicalElitist Před rokem +2

    He’s now the CEO of a company called Smarter that produces smart kitchen gadgets.

  • @leighpowley8410
    @leighpowley8410 Před rokem +1

    Goodness gracious! What a fantastic turn of events! 🤩💖🤩

  • @uriituw
    @uriituw Před rokem +3

    “…with _their_ pitch?”
    With _his_ pitch!

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 Před 3 měsíci

      I thought I was getting a bout of tinnitus but thankfully it was just the sound of all the bees in your bonnet.

  • @LV2UJC-FM
    @LV2UJC-FM Před rokem +3

    Impressive, to say the least.
    The adults going into the Dragons Den should be taking notes about the way this 19-year-old conducted himself with his mannerism and pitch to the Dragons, and learn how you can make a deal.

  • @WellOilBeefHooked
    @WellOilBeefHooked Před rokem +2

    I know nothing about carrying these things but what struck me was that it could possibly do with a tube of foam along the fold to prevent accidental creasing.

    • @getin3949
      @getin3949 Před rokem

      It's probably made of something fairly stiff but since we didn't really get to see it or test it, I agree with you.

  • @TuanJinnNguyen
    @TuanJinnNguyen Před rokem +5

    My lord, what a bright, incredible young man!

  • @edwardsnowdenofficial

    Peters face was a picture at the end lol!

  • @peteperry5712
    @peteperry5712 Před rokem

    What a star!

  • @thehop639
    @thehop639 Před rokem +8

    15% to 35% clever boy but that was a silly move.... could have easily kept hold of 10% there!

    • @cuilcaghboardwalk5585
      @cuilcaghboardwalk5585 Před rokem

      Totally agree. Theo couldn’t believe his luck.
      His whole lifetime ideas for 35%.!
      Also he had invested 18mnths and £10,000 in the business.
      Theo got a bargain

  • @Wuhlz
    @Wuhlz Před rokem +4

    Bottom line, Christian should have went to 25% and it would have been countered at 30%, he gave up 5% more than he needed to. Peter was simply trying to "correct" Christians mistake of offering 35%.
    Totally understandable on Christians part though being 19.

  • @djstrudy6053
    @djstrudy6053 Před rokem +4

    Why can I go through hours of watching these🤣

  • @thechanneloffun3760
    @thechanneloffun3760 Před rokem +3

    Theo has finally found his long lost son

  • @alonelywitch4042
    @alonelywitch4042 Před rokem

    It’s so funny to me to go from Dragons Den to Shark Tank. ST just *oozes* America😂😂

  • @stellajoseph3383
    @stellajoseph3383 Před rokem

    He is very impressive

  • @maszimz
    @maszimz Před rokem

    Wonder if it was re branded or if folio is a different brand.

  • @blackchalksounds5278
    @blackchalksounds5278 Před rokem +13

    But Theo owns him now. All his future inventions are now with theo and his kids.

    • @sambou6286
      @sambou6286 Před rokem +1

      to secure the inheritance ........😁😁

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Před rokem

      No they aren´t. His first company dissolved.

  • @harrisonsbookheaven835

    Duncan drops a bombshell…lol

  • @RTG1031
    @RTG1031 Před rokem

    Fair play Peter

  • @mmckenzie8085
    @mmckenzie8085 Před rokem +1

    I think because Theo was a hero of his it affected his negotiating skills. He jumped straight to 35% not really giving himself an out. If Theo had refused and not counter offered he still could have accepted. However glad to hear he is successful and yes Theo was the man for the job to fast track this. I still get the impression with this young man he would have made it anyway, it would have just taken longer.

  • @chriscurran7756
    @chriscurran7756 Před rokem +1

    When u don't have enough dips for your domino's....

  • @frankie3778
    @frankie3778 Před rokem

    ... sooo he reinvented the folder... gratz. flat, bent, folded, creased, i use them synonymously xD.

  • @RebinQaderi
    @RebinQaderi Před rokem

    The dirty look Theo gave Peter
    That blew me away😂

  • @pinayinuk
    @pinayinuk Před rokem

    Great

  • @seanjosephhayes
    @seanjosephhayes Před rokem

    Why wouldn’t people use the cylindrical tubes over these folders? Yes there isn’t a sharp, folded crease but when he demonstrates the folder you can see a slight bend/crease in the paper in the middle which doesn’t happen with the cylindrical tubes and the paper can be then rolled up the opposite way to undo any curling? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @b-dogs1038
    @b-dogs1038 Před rokem

    He only had eyes for Theo. & good on Theo for sticking to his guns @ 35%.

  • @mickharrison9004
    @mickharrison9004 Před rokem +10

    Just looking at the fella tells you he's a winner ,and will succeed .

    • @gerardford9706
      @gerardford9706 Před rokem

      Listen up MickTheDick, in this life you're either a smart fella or a fart smella

  • @murilogoulart4935
    @murilogoulart4935 Před rokem +5

    Brilliant, Christian and Theo can be a perfect combination.
    Greetings from Danmark 🤜 🇩🇰 🤛

  • @prizma45
    @prizma45 Před 11 měsíci +1

    you have to be born tall, jbw, iq to have the early bird start and major competitive edge
    all down to luck

  • @STEVELILLEY011117
    @STEVELILLEY011117 Před rokem +1

    Company status
    Dissolved

  • @XO43137
    @XO43137 Před rokem +4

    He could've offered 30%, not 35%.

  • @jamesmcintyre1675
    @jamesmcintyre1675 Před rokem

    The dragons probably discussed this pitch beforehand that Theo maybe best dragon to get his stationary invention off of the ground.

  • @SRPC21
    @SRPC21 Před rokem

    Please put these old/new series on Britbox !

  • @00Kuja00
    @00Kuja00 Před rokem +1

    Impressive, he would be around my age now I think.

    • @sebastiangranlund1357
      @sebastiangranlund1357 Před rokem +1

      It depends if you were the same age this year he pitched ;)

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 Před rokem +1

      @@sebastiangranlund1357 I was 20 when it aired.

  • @Conannnnn
    @Conannnnn Před rokem +10

    Impressive young lad. How is he doing now?

    • @zaidahmed9527
      @zaidahmed9527 Před rokem +5

      @Lee Claxton CEO of Smarter, smart kitchen appliances company generating £mm revenues

    • @barsnack7999
      @barsnack7999 Před rokem +2

      Selling 50$ wifi kettles for 129 pound

    • @zaidahmed9527
      @zaidahmed9527 Před rokem +2

      @@barsnack7999 lol yes wouldn't say its a company I'd use 😂

    • @patricktate4782
      @patricktate4782 Před rokem

      Batty boy

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Před rokem +5

    Jenny: Scissors beats paper. I'm out.

  • @Terranova339
    @Terranova339 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank god for peter for jumping in, and making greedy Theo squirm in his chair

  • @jf1341
    @jf1341 Před rokem

    Peter almost torpedoed it

  • @ivanriverooo
    @ivanriverooo Před rokem +3

    Love this show everyday more.
    First comment 🥇 yeah! 👏

  • @karimamadiaswad3413
    @karimamadiaswad3413 Před rokem +5

    Uploader, the word you're looking for is 'his'.

  • @mhondapineda1265
    @mhondapineda1265 Před 6 měsíci

    if you noticed he really wanted Theo by handling over sample first

  • @livingwithosteoarthritis.
    @livingwithosteoarthritis. Před 5 měsíci

    I never really watched it back then. It seems more more business like more scary like a dragons den should be

  • @patricktate4782
    @patricktate4782 Před rokem

    RIP Chris Kaba

  • @Moretti19728
    @Moretti19728 Před rokem +2

    " but Duncan bannatyne" that phrase is always followed usually by some downfall lol

  • @RyanGRyan1985
    @RyanGRyan1985 Před rokem +1

    Duncan pure jealosy 😂😂😂

  • @Marjopolo302
    @Marjopolo302 Před rokem

    Big future for that young lad... Not sure about the folder ..

  • @martincarr7486
    @martincarr7486 Před rokem

    The title says their, it should be his

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU Před rokem

    Why does it look like 200 pixels of resolution

    • @stuartcommon4651
      @stuartcommon4651 Před rokem

      Because you're watching on a Nokia 3310

    • @seanjosephhayes
      @seanjosephhayes Před rokem

      Because it was broadcast around 16 years ago apparently. Before the time of such good picture quality we have these days. Probably before the time of even 720p or 1080p.

  • @CheekyFest
    @CheekyFest Před rokem

    Incorporated on 3 November 2006 / dissolved 8 September 2015

  • @illuderebeliarh1260
    @illuderebeliarh1260 Před rokem +1

    And this, people, is how Theo the Phoetus became a millionaire. 😂

  • @veganvixenhelen
    @veganvixenhelen Před rokem +2

    I think that the Dragons have a secret code to tell each other what their intentions are. A sign for 'this is mine' or 'I'll go halves with you.' What do you think?

  • @christophersmith49
    @christophersmith49 Před rokem +4

    Well there was not really any 'export". Just import. Buying from China cheap and sell for more domestic.

  • @SpinradN
    @SpinradN Před rokem

    Back to the analog era, now all you need is usb flash drive.

  • @ruperttristanblythe7512

    Just roll it and put it in a tube

  • @Hutchyy
    @Hutchyy Před rokem

    That must have hurt Peter's ego lol

  • @omipower9389
    @omipower9389 Před rokem +3

    Our man be dropshopping but calling it import/Export from mainland china

  • @ricketymortmort
    @ricketymortmort Před rokem

    Unintentional ASMR

  • @hugoschkiglitz
    @hugoschkiglitz Před rokem

    Peter, ouch.

  • @courtney-ol9jx
    @courtney-ol9jx Před 19 dny

    if Peter Jones truly wanted to be competitive,he would have offered all of the money for 30 percent of his business. Why Peter was not more competive?

  • @thesubinejelly8764
    @thesubinejelly8764 Před rokem +1

    His*

  • @Misty_Mountains1
    @Misty_Mountains1 Před rokem +1

    Theo ripped him off blindly

  • @ethancampbell314
    @ethancampbell314 Před rokem

    I feel like this one was more an investment in Christian himself more than the product

  • @tashinatorgaming9674
    @tashinatorgaming9674 Před rokem +2

    RIP Staples. Atleast the branch where i am. I think the company is still going strong. Also, since when do Dragons care about experience in the field?! Isn't this all about money...?

    • @Paaraadox
      @Paaraadox Před rokem +2

      The experience part is basically this:
      Theo has immense competence in this field, meaning essentially any competitive offer some other Dragon could put forward wouldn't be worth it for them, because Theo would still be a preferred investor, even at let's say double the price. Now, if Theo chooses *not* to invest, that essentially means he doesn't see potential in the product, in a field where has lots of knowledge. So some other Dragon thinking "hey, this is a good product" now sees the most knowledgable person in the room not wanting anything to do with it. So why would someone who has *less* knowledge think to know better than him?

    • @tgchikukwa6947
      @tgchikukwa6947 Před rokem +1

      Theo owns stationery chain Ryman and Robert Dyas.

  • @pabbaditya
    @pabbaditya Před rokem

    This is just a binder.

  • @flockofwolves
    @flockofwolves Před rokem +1

    Apparently this guy works in McDonald’s now.
    Real name Ronald.

  • @STRATLOB
    @STRATLOB Před rokem

    I have this in China

  • @italgong
    @italgong Před rokem

    his pitch

  • @shaunohagan1491
    @shaunohagan1491 Před rokem +5

    Their pitch? more than one?

    • @samdam108
      @samdam108 Před rokem

      I think it’s meant to say they’re pitch? No wait, there pitch. Your welcome 😉

    • @benreeves6104
      @benreeves6104 Před rokem

      It's their own pitch, go back to school

  • @andrewwilliams7501
    @andrewwilliams7501 Před rokem

    His pitch

  • @crewrangergaming9582
    @crewrangergaming9582 Před rokem +1

    Say what you want Dragon's Den is always better to me than Shark Tank.. love the dark.. serious tone of this than its sister shows.

  • @mtd4577
    @mtd4577 Před rokem +4

    He gave Theo the product first before others... That's the signal

  • @AKhardcore1
    @AKhardcore1 Před rokem +1

    Not "their" pitch- HIS pitch

  • @iansmith9125
    @iansmith9125 Před rokem

    Reggae reggae folder