How Trans Activists Are Trying to Redefine What It Actually Means to be a Woman, with Helen Joyce
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Megyn Kelly is joined by Helen Joyce, author of "Trans," to discuss how trans activists are changing the language to redefine women, the logical flaws and dangers in admitting trans men into women spaces, the silencing of women’s safety concerns, and more.
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What about Women’s rights?! Trans women are NOT women.
Male & female.The end.
Let's call them *"male trans"* instead of "trans woman" as a constant reminder that they are MEN.
Don't give them the pleasure of being called "woman" in any way.
It's not so easy. We have one lesbian in the workplace. She is not a woman. She doesn't talk like a woman, she doesn't act like a woman, she doesn't look like a woman, she doesn't have hobbies like a woman, she doesn't move like a woman. She was born a woman biologically, but she is a man. And she is NOT trans.
In her book, Helen Joyce wrote that a competitive trans runner, registered in a women's running competition, told her that he was a woman 'in his mind', Helen replied to him, "Sure, but in this race, it's not your 'mind' doing the running!"
In my vegan mind it is wrong to eat, use, or wear animals. But my thoughts govern MY actions, not yours. This is effing madness and it really hurts those of us who are also a niche and still get told to stfu and keep our beliefs to ourselves while the rainbow mafia takes over the entire world.
Damn!
Gotta love her.
Oh Helen Joyce! I love her. I just cannot stop nodding when I hear her talk
Keep your foot on the gas on this issue, Megyn!!!! Logic & reality must prevail!
Agree,
absolutely
I am so thrilled she joined us. We were just a bunch of mostly women with no following, and then she stepped up like the megaphone we needed.
How did we get to this? A conversation like this would’ve been unthinkable once. Thankyou Megyn for keeping up the fight.
Remember The Emporer's New Clothes? Talk about hoodwinking!
It wouldn’t have gotten this far if people stop calling men who identify as women, women. Stop calling them girls. They’re men.
You cannot take a broken man and make a whole woman,,,
Well said! 👏🏻👏🏻
love this. thank you
A doctor of pure mathematics, senior Editor across a range of issues at the Economist versus a bunch of blue haired lunatics.
Bring it on.
I love Helen.
And the ones with the green hair glue themselves to the street, pour tomato soup on invaluable masterpieces and wreck sporting events in the name of critical climate warming or some shit. The name keeps changing and I can't keep up.
Binary Math is 1's and 0's. True or false, on or off. Enough examples, so please go back to your hole and think for about 20 years.
@@billywilds1779
Binary is the best Humans can fathom.
Check out 4 digit, 4 dimensional, extremely advanced, living genetic code with gigabytes of digital information in the simplest cell on Earth, a protozoa.
Evolution is a fairytale religion. The blue hair men can be woman ape man religion.
The hair is a sign of autism. Every person I know who colors hair, including myself, does it because of neurodivergence. We are not the rainbow mafia, stop equating this to that. You're taking us backwards.
Bravo Megyn…please keep the hammer down on this issue! You are making a impact.
Maybe we should start saying trans women are male… because they are
I do, not playing make believe with them.
Or just call them trans identifying males.
Let’s make it happen.
But man just means adult human MALE!! I don't think we should play any of their language games. That's how we got here. They're men. If they want to keep up their bull$hit we could just start calling them failed men instead. Hands off OUR language.
They like to think they are.
Make Women female again!!!!
FJB and let's go Brandon.
Keep up the fire 🔥 Megyn
Women ARE female. Make all men men again.
Megyn’s hat said it all: Make Women Female Again.
I agree. But it's up to us women to make peace with femininity again. Not the twisted, misogynistic lawmakers, not the laws, not the men;.... We, the women. It is up to us to understand that femininity is not being inferior, not weak, not dumb, not incapable or incompetent, not seeing each other as rivals as we have been indoctrinated for centuries. It is in our hands and hearts to transform the way we perceive ourselves and other women, who are our sisters, not our enemies!
I went to the bathroom halfway through a movie, one that allowed both men and women, the left side being for women, the right for men, but only the sinks with mirrors dividing the two. I was the only person in there, so it was creepy anyway, but as I sat on the loo I heard the door open and someone came into the bathroom. I sat there wondering if it was a man and felt very vulnerable. Eventually I left the cubicle and my worst fears were confirmed, it was a man there washing his hands. The funny thing is that he obviously felt as uncomfortable as me and left quickly without drying his hands. Nobody is happy with shared bathrooms except predators and trans activists.
💯!!!
Very well said
Thank god for Helen Joyce. As I've written elsewhere I'm a 6'2" 210lbs alphamale. I wouldn't enter a womans competition and I would never go into a womans changing room. That said - why aren't we looking at the sort of people who *_will_* go into the changing rooms of the other sex and why are they doing it? Don't forget : "flashing" is still a CRIME. So why are we allowing men into the girls rooms?? What sort of people *_want_* to do this???? I think we need to look at it _that_ way around. Helen Joyce comes along and says it TO YOUR FACE - what others think but dare not utter because the nutters are being given way to much leeway. It needs to stop. What also happens here is that it now becomes way more difficult to establish exactly *_where_* or *_when_* a crime has been commited because all the lines are now blurred. A parent once said to me : "A boy will ALWAYS find a way to get to the ..... [you know] , no matter what". So true.
Helen is AMAZING. Have been looking forward to this all day. We need more Helen everywhere!
“This movement is entirely linguistic”. So true.
This discussion reminded me of something I had forgotten about. When one of my sons turned five, he could no longer go into the women's locker room with me to get ready to go swimming at the local YMCA. This was quite stressful for me because I didn't know who was in that mens locker room. They didn't offer any escort through it. I actually only did it a couple of times because it was so stressful that we just stopped and went somewhere else. When I think about that now, I don't even know what to say. He was 5 years old. He was not allowed in the women's locker room. That was only a couple of decades ago.
What has happened to our world?
I think your past situation was not handled correctly. He was a little boy and needed to be with his mother for safety reasons. He wasn’t a threat to other women in the locker room because he was only a child, as opposed to teens/adult men who claim they can go into a woman’s locker-room because they “identify” as women. 😖There are usually changing areas that aren’t in the open for any woman to go in either alone or if she has to bring her child in with her.
What did they expect you to do, send him in the men’s locker room alone with a bunch of strange men? Just wrong! 😡
@@user-hx7mi7ml8uAnd now they have no problem with grown men in female locker rooms but made such a big deal about a little five year old boy back then.
I did not allow my son into men only spaces by himself until he was 12 years old. He went into women’s restrooms with me if a family restroom was not available. I only had one woman ever have a problem with it. I remember reading about a little boy that was allowed to go into a mens restroom by himself at a campground and a pervert in the restroom sexually assaulted and nearly beheaded him. There was no way in hell I was letting something like that happen to my child. My husband quit taking him into the locker room at the Y because some jerk would walk all over the locker room with his junk hanging out even though the signs said no nudity. Can you imagine what the perv would be doing if there was an unattended little boy in the locker room.
@@kencurtis2403 I’ve never understood women who would have an issue with mothers taking their little boys into washrooms with them. Why wouldn’t any parent want to protect their child.
When my son was a little boy, I always took him into the women's restrooms with me. No way was I going to send my little boy into a male restroom not knowing what kind of person would be in there. When he got to be 9 or 10, he insisted on going to the men's restroom, but I stood right outside that door and made sure he came back out very soon after going in. I always liked the stores that had family bathrooms so there was nothing to worry about.
I LOVE this woman. I am definitely going to read her book. Transbullies have had their way for too long and have destroyed families and individuals with their stupid, nonsensical rhetoric. Like spoiled children, they want and want and want and do not think of the consequences of their actions. So typical of North American young and youngish people these days. Even Trump does not accept responsibility for his actions, Wow what a leader !!!
That's all they know. Destruction. All for their own selfish aims
I believe they do think of the consequences but either they don't care or they positively relish the discomfort and anger of women. Look at the violence that Kellie-Jay Keene faced in New Zealand. They wanted to kill her and they would have felt justified in killing her because she was fighting back against their crazy ideology. It's a new form of misogyny. Read Helen's great book.
Ever notice that the trans movement is entirely fixated on redefining women and not men?
Not entirely true. They are trying to say men can be pregnant
Exactly!
Coz men are very competitive and they envy bio women for being real and they want to erase them in order to give straight men no other option except dating fake women. They are very radical and they are coming for us as they been doing for generations
@@Sdewebb That is so wild and unreal ... O_O
@@SdewebbTrue, but the insult is still felt by real women, whereas men just laugh at them.
Keep SPEAKING TRUTH, Megyn! ❤ I admire & respect your courage.
JoJo
Thank you Helen Joyce!!!
Helen Joyce is a real voice of reason, as is Megyn. ❤
Ladies, you’re doing the right thing, don’t give up! We’re with you!
Thank you for this critical conversation. Love to you both.
Your guest is absolutely right
Helen Joyce you are the most logical person I have ever heard. You go Megyn don't stop 😮
There's no such thing as a trans-woman or a trans-man.
Funny how nothing on the male side is changing. We don't see women who say they are men going into a male locker room and changing. I don't see their words or definitions being redefined. Why was lesbian changed to a non man. Nothing was changed to describe a gay man. Vigina is now a bonus hole
Yes they are crossdressers.
Correct, just frankenstein drag kings and transvestites.
It's just a fantasy. It's not real. Thus, no one has to play along. NO ONE.
As a woman the portrayal of women by these fellows has nothing to do with what a real woman is. It’s a bad act. Fancy dress, makeup, flashy hand gestures and fake nails, etc. does not make a woman. We don’t all love shopping or cry during Meg Ryan movies.
Most of us do love Jane Austen, and these gay guys will never understand that.
Yeah, being in 'womanface' and acting out stereotypes does not make one a woman.
Most of them aren't even gay. They're straight men with a fetish. There are of course the old school gay transsexuals, some of them probably transitioning out of self-hate, some in delusion about getting a straight man.
But today's brigade, I'd go out on a limb and say they are mostly straight perverts.
❤this is Awsome! Statistics that can’t be argued
Thank you ladies! Helen, you explain things so beautifully. Trans women don’t act like women. They are aggressive as Hell! And, that’s just what I’ve seen on the internet. I also think most transwomen are misogynistic. For example, all the transwomen chasing Riley Gaines; aggressive and misogynistic.
Why are there no conversations about transmen invading men’s spaces & men’s sports. The answer this this proves this is a WOMENS issue!! I’m so over this conversation about transwomen being able to take up women’s space & women’s sports.
Exactly 🤷🏻♀️
A 'trans-man' wouldnt participate in men's sports because they would mostly have no chance of winning. But I do agree it is a women's issue. I am a guy and it offends me that they let men into women's sports, I can't imagine how women feel.
Great conversation! Let’s keep this dialogue going and get it out in the public. A war on culture through languages/linguistics. 🎉❤🎉
There is no such thing as a trans "woman".
"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
Yet this is a battle of linguistics.
Is that Orwell?
I refuse to change the way I talk it makes sense it always has I refuse to change the way I talk for some evil regime!!! Love always Kelli
Nailed it. Ownership of Language.
Trans women are MEN
To quote a fellow I like, “facts don’t care about your feelings”!
Right on (GIRL) keep it coming
Well done both.... Great interview.
There has never been a single human that can choose between being a man or woman. The choice is not available.
Very well said. Human!!
This is explained so well! Love your channel and stance on this subject
This movement is very sinister.
Excellent guest.
They can “define” whatever they want, however, they want, but not around me. Chromosomes, not fantasies or behaviors, define the woman and the man and there is no arguing the point.
True. Men can pretend to be women all they want behind closed doors. But when they step out and deal with other people and the world's realities, they should leave their fantasies behind. Because in the real world, we deal with facts and are guided by truth.
Thank You Helen and MK. Such a clear and concise dialogue on the heart of the issue.
“Trans Athletes” should compete with other trans athletes. They need to have a special Olympics for trans athletes. That would be fair.
And no one would care who won, nor watch to find out. Soon, no one will care about women's sports for just the same reasons.
@@AZLorie-kl5ow Newsflash! The only people screaming for “trans rights” are trans activists; nobody else cares🤣
That’s the only fair and reasonable way. Let trans compete against trans. Wow! Trans Sports.
AND their own locker rooms too!
@@cynthiawildman4385 yes!😉👍
Helen, pls put your book on your shelf so that people can see what it is called.
May god bless Helen Joyce…. She just made so much sense… so true… I wish here wealth n happiness
Helen Joyce I love you .thank you for speaking out for us women and not the he/ she’s out there 💕💕💕🇬🇧
We need to keep pushing back against the agenda! Protect the children, and women!!
Years ago I'm at a restaurant, and I have to GO Bad. The men's room was taken, the owner said go ahead and use the women's room. I did, but it felt really REALLY strange/weird being in there. It just didn't feel right.
It’s become an issue at the bottom of the South Island of New Zealand at our local swimming pool. Our councils solution was to make the family rooms unisex which still doesn’t exclude trans women from the female changing room, there will be those that think they are still fully entitled use them and don’t care how it affects others.
So does this mean that biological men that calls themselves women can voice opinions on that’s like abortion and not get shouted down for being men?
Basically 🙄🤷🏻♀️
One day ago, a TransAthlete set the American women's record in the 1 mile run at the Diamond League meet in Monaco in 4:16.35. Prior to this the same TransAthlete won the USATF and then the Sir Walter Miler meet. I have rooted for women in the sport since Sarah Mae Berman unofficially competed in the Boston Marathon in the early 1960's . And I think the women competing today are incredible athletes. I have to believe that women experience the same joy in distance running that I did. I mention this because I am saddened by how easily women's distance running is now being diminished the inclusion of TransAthletes.
The world record for the one mile run by a xy man is 3:43:13...There is now a 23 second difference between the xy men's and xx women's world records. What that suggests to me is a large difference in muscle mass, speed and endurance between those born with xx as opposed to xy chromosomes.
We see this acceptance of xy competing against xx here in the US and now also internationally. Personally, I think it is tragic for the sport and it diminishes the xx women in the sport. Distance running as a sport is beautiful to watch but allowing an xy to compete against many xx's is wrong and devalues the competition immensely. There is an obvious large advantage to an xy vs an xx.
I am Irish so I'm a pretty pale skinned person, I also live in Florida and get a pretty good tan most of the year. Now if I wanted, could I then identify as Mexican, Middle Eastern or a light skinned Black? How do you think that would go over in the leftist echo chambers?
The formerly gay rights activists had to find a new issue to fund raise after the SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage, even if it conflicts with the rights of those that they advocated for. Heaven forbids that they have to get a real job and make a living.
You know, when they dig up bones, the archeologists say, "we found the bones of a woman...or man," so, the proper pronoun might not be used when faced with forensic evidence.
Never stop this fight, please, Megyn!!!
Great to see you have such a wonderful and educated feminist.
What a great Conversation and so through. I am a Man (77) and one thing that I can't understand that there are Women who either don't care or just to like to help them. I can't understand that. I think there should be a lot's more Women like you two the get this points you getting out will be heard.
So I work with a lot of (confused) gen z’ers and there’s one I work with who’s a biological female, she’s 20 years old, she likes men and women and is a tomboy. She goes by he/him pronouns because she thinks it’s fun because she likes to wear men’s clothes and have male haircuts. She knows she’s a girl and uses the girls bathroom because she knows it’s her reality, but yet if I misgender her, she says it’s hate speech and am being offensive.
I'd hazard at guess that she's an immature attention seeker.
Try to only call her by her name or whatever name she has now chosen to go by.
I am out of the workforce now, thank goodness, because I would not have been able to deal with this.
@@sbffsbrarbrr I do and it’s a fake name. 🙄
@@BrettD2013Just do your best to avoid her. She sounds like she is lying in wait for someone to "offend" her.
Call her by her surname
The best response I’ve seen to “trans women are women!” is “labradors are doors!”
Ha ha ha because that’s how ridiculous they are 😂
Man who trans are transman.Stop calling them transwomen
I love Megyn Kelly!🤗
Nope they’re dna is male
You’re the only one out there that calls Trans women men. THANK you! They are MEN.
I'm a seventy three year old woman and I don't want a man in a dress to com into the bathroom if I'm in there he wouldn't like it either if I laughed and made fun of him because I think I most likely would.
Helen Joyce 💪
Helen explained things in one of the most clearest ways I’ve ever heard. How can do many people be so deaf and blind to this issue? It baffles me as it’s just common sense!!
“And if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a wagon” - Montgomery Scott
excellent choice of guest. Helen Joyce is the clearest voice I have found on this topic. And she is not afraid to call this madness out for what it is.
This just tells me that everyone needs love and to be cared for.
Can we just acknowledge how perfectly Helen Joyce responded to that first question, and how much this horrid concept of 'trans' and gender ideology relies on making everyone else use it's newly made-up words or definitions...
"The sky is green and the grass is blue. Prove me wrong!" What a clown world... lol
I change no words in the bidens regime!!! Love always Kelli
Thank you both. Reality will win.
Thank you Megyn for continuing to pursue this issue. Like you, I was tolerant for too long but they pushed me too far. Linguistics really is the issue. If the Trans community simply said they wanted all restrooms to be unisex, there would be an outcry. Same with sports. So they have to redefine what a woman is and try to shame anyone who doesn't agree with them. We have to keep fighting back because this is nonsense.
HELL IS ETERNAL, ONE WAY IN, NO WAY OUT!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
How long will it be before women are told it would be discrimination or a hate crime, not to undress in lockerroom with a person based on the fact they are trans.
How long will it be before one of them trans lot get beaten to a pulp by a group of women pissed off with all this bullshit ?the countdown starts ,NOW!..
If genatalia dont confirm your identity, then how does removing genatalia affirm ones identity?
If pople said NO when they started telling people to call men who pretends to be women for "she/her" instead of going along with their delusions & trying not to hurt feelings, this would not be the issue it is now.
Thanks Helen!
Truisms vs Logic.. a much needed distinction 👌
Tangentally related to this, my wife and I recently did a trip taking in 3 continents. Many places had only male and female restrooms. My lovely wife has dementia and needs bathroom assistance. In some places I met some resistance, they didn't want me to enter a woman only space, some were more sympathetic. It's something I'd never considered before.
Friend that is a different story, we all would have offered to helped you.... we are ladies.
Two formidable adult human females talking FACTS
Trans women are men! Facts over feelings. Thank you Megan and Helen.
Thank you Helen and Megyn. I still struggle to understand how this has ever become a topic. Very concerning
The right response to "Trans women are women" is: "In what way?"
A trans-woman USED TO BE a woman who "transitioned" to a male...
At what point that got swapped, I couldn't tell you.
It's been referred to as "micro tyranny"
Don't give into other people's obsessions that a mammals sex is variable!
Thank you both .❤🙏🙏
What pisses me off is that they're saying that God is fallable, wrong and imperfectthey should thank their mothers for just not swallowing them
Love love love that color on you!!! Love always Kelli
Food for thought!! women are attracted emotionally to men and men are attracted to women physically! Food for thought!!
Where did you get that silly piece of reductionist nonsense from? 🤣 Your brain needs better nutrients, instead of this daft pap.
They are not women.. any bloke that fancies one of them is one too.
More people, especially us Christians, need to stand up, be loud, and rebuke these satanists in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Fully on board with this. It's also true that men only clubs and gathering places need to be preserved. Not because of sexual assault but because belonging-to-the-men and standing with them is a vital masculine need; when it's denigrated over time the men forget who they are and become less able to be all the things we've traditionally loved men for. Men, in our own way, don't feel emotionally safe, without some men only spaces.
I realize that these have been eroded so much over generations that most men aren't aware of it.
How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words. Samuel Adams
Adding the prefix "trans-" to a word denotes a completed task, to be on the other side, to have crossed over, etc.
Therefor, a man can never be woman, simply because it is physically impossible for a man (or a woman) to mutate to the opposite sex/gender, especially taking into account DNA.
A more appropriate description would be faux-man or faux-woman. In other words, a person that attempts to present him- or herself as a person of the opposite sex/gender, as a facsimile of the opposite sex/gender, but never to be a member of that sex/gender.
Just a thought from a gay man.
[Oh, and most LGB people don't agree with or associate with the rest of the alphabet soup of deranged "communities" that have latched on to us, acting in our name and doing us a great discredit.]
Then the LGB need to denounce and disassociate from the rest of the alphabet army....with lesbians...you know what you have...with gays..you know what you have....with Bi...you know what you have.......the rest....you can't tell what you have as they change from second to second. LGB need to find a way to separate themselves from the rest of the letter people.
Blair White, a transwoman who is a conservative and fully acknowledges that she is NOT a woman, recently put out her definition of what a trans woman is.
She termed them * "a type of man" * - they are biological men who identify as women, like to present as women, and some have surgery and take hormones to do their utmost to present as successfully as possible as a woman, but they are a type of man, who happens to be doing this compared to other biological men who are not doing these things.