My mom's boyfriend's parents had two of these out at their lake home when I was a kid in the early 1990's. They were a retired couple and us kids always begged them to let us ride their gas powered peddle bikes, but they never did allow us to try them out.
My very first motorcycle, way back in the early 70's. Went from that straight to a Honda CB250 k4. Wish I still had both of them....happy early motorcycling memories from when it was all much simpler lol
Nice! That's quite a jump from that to a CB250 LOL. I don't see as many of those around - are you located in the United States, or what country out of curiosity?
We had one with the same colors in the Philippines circa 1967. We had a bracket and seat installed on top of the gas tank to accommodate a passenger. I rode it around town as a very young teen. We gave it away to relatives in 1974 when we returned to the U.S.
That's really cool! I personally think the blue is a really cool color on these and favor it over the red. I cannot imagine riding a passenger on one - it's a torquey little moped but still a moped! Although I suppose skinny little teenagers are a bit different also! I don't definitely don't see very many of these around in the US, and am betting they were more plentiful at that time in the Philippines
@@retro_grade My next door neighbor in the Philippines bought the red one. My Dad was so impressed he bought the blue one. One night in 1971 he was riding it in a dark road, ran into a pothole, crashed and broke his collarbone.
They are very, very unique and odd designs and super cool if you're into that! We don't have this one anymore, but our friend we bought it off of (in Kentucky) has another red one for sale....
While the Honda P50 was technically a moped, meaning it had both a motor and functional pedals, it's four stroke engine made it somewhat slow and undesirable. Honda did not get the moped concept right until the mid '70s with the PA50 "Hobbit" with a 2 stroke engine. I have owned 17 mopeds since 1975, including Peugeot, Motobecane, Puch, Tomos, Solex, Vespa, Sears Free Spirit and JCPenney Pinto (both made by Puch/Kromag) a Garelli, and yes, a Honda PA50. I have modified mopeds to reach over 50 mph. I currently own a Puch Newport II, a Tomos ST, and a Solex 3800. While mopeds are small bikes, they are huge fun.
Yeah, not as easy to push to 50 mph and make those kind of gains on a 4 stroke. Honestly on the PA50 though, I wouldn't have wanted to go much faster on it. 25 mph or whatever the top speed it reached was enough for me on something that felt like an old bicycle suspension, brakes, and wheel wise. Moreso on that even, than other mopeds that I've been on. I had a Jawa back when I was 14 years old and still think I've got it stashed back home, somewhere lol.
@@retro_grade Very cool! My buddy's mom still has her little "Indian Scout" motorcycle that her dad bought her brand new when she was a kid. I think it they have it in their quancet buried under a bunch of stuff, kind of like my uncle still has our family's Ford Model T that buried in the corner of their shop.
@@retro_grade Yep. They should start making the Honda FIT again. It was sure nice having a little vehicle that you can use as a pickup truck that still gets 36 mpg on interstate.
For 50cc bikes the Super Cub is the benchmark but some countries allowed these bikes tobe operated without a license if they had pedals and restricted top speed.
Several states in the US (Kentucky included) allow mopeds and scooters under 50cc to be operated without a license as well currently. So, the P50 falls into this category but obviously the Super Cub (as it shifts gears) does not :)
Yep. I still see brand new Honda Super Cubs on the showroom floor at the Honda dealerships in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. The salesman said you can order them in 50cc, 70cc or 90cc and people in the community said they are really reliable.
I thought they made them longer, no wonder I can't find one in decent shape. Same with the PC50 I'm looking to add. None of my friends from the racing days understand what happened to me.
I have 1 and When you try to pedal to start IT, IT acts like it's not grabbing enough to spin the engine over, It makes a grinding or skipping noise, You can pedal it by hand and it spins the engine over, but if you spin it any faster it makes a clicking and the engine quits catching to turn over to crank and run, Any thoughts on what could be , anybody,
That's interesting, not sure. Maybe the clutch is slipping? Or sounds like something could be stripped. Do you use the compression release lever when peddling?
@@retro_grade Thanks for your reply, Very smart I never tried using the compressor release, I also have a PC50 the engines not on the back wheel , has a compress release but it doesn't matter if you use the compress release or not to crank IT, IT never strips, There is some type of spring clicker on the back sprocket but I haven't never took it apart and kind of scared to take it apart, You can spin it by hand on the pedal real slow and the engine will spin over , but as soon as you try to put any force pressure to crank IT, IT just strips and and won't catch to spin the engine over, I can't find nothing on CZcams about rebuilding the engine or the rear wheel nowhere, Also like to say I like your videos, Also I ordered the manual and misplaced the manual , There is a free download on the internet, But I still can't understand that either, On the manual it talked about a secondary drive gear , and it had these little spring tensioners 2 of them on each side of each other , and it ratcheted, I believe that's what makes it crank up and then when it's running it free spins and doesn't ratchet anymore, that's probably what's wrong with it, It may not be anytime soon, but when I do fix it , I'll respond just to let you know what it was, thanks again for your time, My son has 1 P50 and 4 PC50s Only 2 of them,
@@retro_grade The little spring tensioners is when you pedal it backwards you can hear them click, its like on 10 speed bicycle , but when you pedal it the other way it should catch to crank the motor up, That's the springs I'm talking about,
@@retro_grade I believe luckily for me, my heart is super cub. Tires are tubeless so lately I’ve been a lazy person and I have been having the shop put the tires on the rims for me and then I’ve just been switching the rims out because I have two rims for the front and two for the back and it’s not too bad if the tires are already on the rims for me
@@MyLifeThai371 well I have an update for you on my tire changes so unfortunately it cost $40 per tire change and it just wasn’t sitting well with me. I’m used to having my tires changed for free because the shop if I buy the tires there for my car, they just changed the tires so I did some math and I bought a tire changing machine that is purely manual and basically works like a giant ratchet like a socket set and I can now change my own tires now my coworkers think I’m crazy, but I bought the one with all the bells and whistles or the extra accessories and adapter so if I ever get another motorcycle I will very likely be able to change the tires of that motorcycle. In fact I would buy motorcycle that I could use this machine for if I was to get another one, but what happened was the smallest or skinniest adapter that would go through where the shaft would go through is actually too thick so I had to buy a round of steel rod to make it work but I can make it work now. The whole get up was like $800 but I think would like changing 26 tires it would be worth it and I’m sure I will. I only get 3 to 4000 miles out of rear tire. I now have my third tire on there and I still have the original front tire so for my independence and convenience and saving money over the long long-term I opted for this option, but I am still glad that I have those extra rims.
Maybe the microphone placement magnified it (I didn't think it sounded that loud after review). It's a pretty quiet engine overall. You hear the whine of the transmission more than the motor. I also suppose for any engine that small, you can probably kill most noise with a good enough muffler.
The P50 burned out Exhaust Valves frequently the Lack of Suspension caused lean running as the Carb. was jiggled around too much. the Later PC 50 was a much better design.
Makes sense, did not know this! One of the many reasons the P50 likely never really caught on. In addition to things like having to remove the motor to change an inner tube, LOL. Thanks for the comment!
Ha! I did not know that! What a PITA....it's not like it's the end of the world to pull it, just really annoying to have to do for such simple tasks....
My mom's boyfriend's parents had two of these out at their lake home when I was a kid in the early 1990's. They were a retired couple and us kids always begged them to let us ride their gas powered peddle bikes, but they never did allow us to try them out.
Nice! They were actual P50 four strokes? That's pretty cool, as there don't seem to be a whole lot of these around. I've only seen a couple of them.
You meet the nicest people on a Honda 🛵
I bought one new around 1966, at $139 as I remember, and loved it! 😊
Wow, that's really cheap. I think at the time for comparison a cub was just under $250?
My very first motorcycle, way back in the early 70's. Went from that straight to a Honda CB250 k4. Wish I still had both of them....happy early motorcycling memories from when it was all much simpler lol
Nice! That's quite a jump from that to a CB250 LOL. I don't see as many of those around - are you located in the United States, or what country out of curiosity?
We had one with the same colors in the Philippines circa 1967. We had a bracket and seat installed on top of the gas tank to accommodate a passenger. I rode it around town as a very young teen. We gave it away to relatives in 1974 when we returned to the U.S.
That's really cool! I personally think the blue is a really cool color on these and favor it over the red. I cannot imagine riding a passenger on one - it's a torquey little moped but still a moped! Although I suppose skinny little teenagers are a bit different also!
I don't definitely don't see very many of these around in the US, and am betting they were more plentiful at that time in the Philippines
@@retro_grade My next door neighbor in the Philippines bought the red one. My Dad was so impressed he bought the blue one. One night in 1971 he was riding it in a dark road, ran into a pothole, crashed and broke his collarbone.
Great video showcasing yet another great Honda machine! This channel deserves way more subscribers than it is currently at.
Thanks for the compliments, we agree as well! Hopefully the subscriber count picks up with more quality content being posted!
I would love one of these 😍
Currently rebuilding a 1978 PA50II
Riding a 91 Tomos A35 around town
They are very, very unique and odd designs and super cool if you're into that! We don't have this one anymore, but our friend we bought it off of (in Kentucky) has another red one for sale....
While the Honda P50 was technically a moped, meaning it had both a motor and functional pedals, it's four stroke engine made it somewhat slow and undesirable. Honda did not get the moped concept right until the mid '70s with the PA50 "Hobbit" with a 2 stroke engine. I have owned 17 mopeds since 1975, including Peugeot, Motobecane, Puch, Tomos, Solex, Vespa, Sears Free Spirit and JCPenney Pinto (both made by Puch/Kromag) a Garelli, and yes, a Honda PA50. I have modified mopeds to reach over 50 mph. I currently own a Puch Newport II, a Tomos ST, and a Solex 3800. While mopeds are small bikes, they are huge fun.
Yeah, not as easy to push to 50 mph and make those kind of gains on a 4 stroke. Honestly on the PA50 though, I wouldn't have wanted to go much faster on it. 25 mph or whatever the top speed it reached was enough for me on something that felt like an old bicycle suspension, brakes, and wheel wise. Moreso on that even, than other mopeds that I've been on.
I had a Jawa back when I was 14 years old and still think I've got it stashed back home, somewhere lol.
@@retro_grade Very cool! My buddy's mom still has her little "Indian Scout" motorcycle that her dad bought her brand new when she was a kid. I think it they have it in their quancet buried under a bunch of stuff, kind of like my uncle still has our family's Ford Model T that buried in the corner of their shop.
Honda, should start making them again.
There's ALOT of things Honda should start making again!
@@retro_grade Yep. They should start making the Honda FIT again. It was sure nice having a little vehicle that you can use as a pickup truck that still gets 36 mpg on interstate.
For 50cc bikes the Super Cub is the benchmark but some countries allowed these bikes tobe operated without a license if they had pedals and restricted top speed.
Several states in the US (Kentucky included) allow mopeds and scooters under 50cc to be operated without a license as well currently. So, the P50 falls into this category but obviously the Super Cub (as it shifts gears) does not :)
Yep. I still see brand new Honda Super Cubs on the showroom floor at the Honda dealerships in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. The salesman said you can order them in 50cc, 70cc or 90cc and people in the community said they are really reliable.
@@MyLifeThai371 That's cool the original classic is still available. Here we only get the 125cc retro Cub.
I thought they made them longer, no wonder I can't find one in decent shape. Same with the PC50 I'm looking to add. None of my friends from the racing days understand what happened to me.
The collector we bought it from had a red one too for sale recently. I want to say around $2500 asking. With title and manual.
What mpg did they do. Thanks for the video
Honestly I have no idea but I'm willing to bet/guess they'd do around 100 mpg?
No problem, thanks for the comment!
I have 1 and When you try to pedal to start IT, IT acts like it's not grabbing enough to spin the engine over, It makes a grinding or skipping noise, You can pedal it by hand and it spins the engine over, but if you spin it any faster it makes a clicking and the engine quits catching to turn over to crank and run, Any thoughts on what could be , anybody,
That's interesting, not sure. Maybe the clutch is slipping? Or sounds like something could be stripped. Do you use the compression release lever when peddling?
@@retro_grade Thanks for your reply, Very smart I never tried using the compressor release, I also have a PC50 the engines not on the back wheel , has a compress release but it doesn't matter if you use the compress release or not to crank IT, IT never strips, There is some type of spring clicker on the back sprocket but I haven't never took it apart and kind of scared to take it apart, You can spin it by hand on the pedal real slow and the engine will spin over , but as soon as you try to put any force pressure to crank IT, IT just strips and and won't catch to spin the engine over, I can't find nothing on CZcams about rebuilding the engine or the rear wheel nowhere, Also like to say I like your videos, Also I ordered the manual and misplaced the manual , There is a free download on the internet, But I still can't understand that either, On the manual it talked about a secondary drive gear , and it had these little spring tensioners 2 of them on each side of each other , and it ratcheted, I believe that's what makes it crank up and then when it's running it free spins and doesn't ratchet anymore, that's probably what's wrong with it, It may not be anytime soon, but when I do fix it , I'll respond just to let you know what it was, thanks again for your time, My son has 1 P50 and 4 PC50s Only 2 of them,
@@retro_grade The little spring tensioners is when you pedal it backwards you can hear them click, its like on 10 speed bicycle , but when you pedal it the other way it should catch to crank the motor up, That's the springs I'm talking about,
Wouldn’t ride it across the street? It’s a cool moped, what’s not to like. It’s like 😊me of those people that you can’t get or stay mad at😊
Oh it's definitely unique! I'd personally ride it across the street. Andrew, well....he just won't admit that he would :)
Oh, the things are four stroke nice
They are nice, refined little mopeds for sure. Nice until you have to change out that rear tube or tire LOL.
@@retro_grade I believe luckily for me, my heart is super cub. Tires are tubeless so lately I’ve been a lazy person and I have been having the shop put the tires on the rims for me and then I’ve just been switching the rims out because I have two rims for the front and two for the back and it’s not too bad if the tires are already on the rims for me
@@charleshunt3806 That's a smart idea!
@@MyLifeThai371 well I have an update for you on my tire changes so unfortunately it cost $40 per tire change and it just wasn’t sitting well with me. I’m used to having my tires changed for free because the shop if I buy the tires there for my car, they just changed the tires so I did some math and I bought a tire changing machine that is purely manual and basically works like a giant ratchet like a socket set and I can now change my own tires now my coworkers think I’m crazy, but I bought the one with all the bells and whistles or the extra accessories and adapter so if I ever get another motorcycle I will very likely be able to change the tires of that motorcycle. In fact I would buy motorcycle that I could use this machine for if I was to get another one, but what happened was the smallest or skinniest adapter that would go through where the shaft would go through is actually too thick so I had to buy a round of steel rod to make it work but I can make it work now. The whole get up was like $800 but I think would like changing 26 tires it would be worth it and I’m sure I will. I only get 3 to 4000 miles out of rear tire. I now have my third tire on there and I still have the original front tire so for my independence and convenience and saving money over the long long-term I opted for this option, but I am still glad that I have those extra rims.
Apakah part nya tersedia,saya punya honda p50,apakah bisa di bantu?
Sorry, I don't have any extra P50 parts.
Try looking on CMSNL, www.Cmsnl.com, I think I had to buy a couple of parts off it there for mine.
Says Honda wanted something quieter than a 2 stroke but this thing sounds like a god damn biplane in the video compared to my tomos.
Maybe the microphone placement magnified it (I didn't think it sounded that loud after review).
It's a pretty quiet engine overall. You hear the whine of the transmission more than the motor.
I also suppose for any engine that small, you can probably kill most noise with a good enough muffler.
The super Honda.
Yep!
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Спасибо!
Are u selling it
Ziggy already sold it!
I got one in Calgary ab Canada if you want it runs and drives
@@relaxhealanddrive523 Any chance you'd be down to ship it to New jersey?
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Thanks for the compliment!
Can't you you go faster if you use the peddles?
You probably could peddle about as fast as the motor would push this bike lol
@retro_grade eh I ment like asist the motor with the pedals to increase the speed
The P50 burned out Exhaust Valves frequently
the Lack of Suspension caused lean running as the Carb. was jiggled around too much.
the Later PC 50 was a much better design.
Makes sense, did not know this! One of the many reasons the P50 likely never really caught on. In addition to things like having to remove the motor to change an inner tube, LOL.
Thanks for the comment!
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Thank you!
They didn't change much through the years. On the late 70s early 80s Hobbits, step 2 for anything is to remove the whole engine/subframe hahah
Ha! I did not know that! What a PITA....it's not like it's the end of the world to pull it, just really annoying to have to do for such simple tasks....
Not a good looking machine, but it's part of moped history I guess.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Robert :)