The Worst Babyface Turns in Wrestling | Wrestling With Wregret

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  • @FrankieBlueEyes
    @FrankieBlueEyes Před 3 lety +336

    Hard to believe "Kane the good guy rapist" never made it on a t-shirt.

    • @WCWThunderRosa
      @WCWThunderRosa Před 3 lety +11

      Who would wear it tho? 😂

    • @TheBlackScatPack
      @TheBlackScatPack Před 3 lety +40

      @@WCWThunderRosa Vince McMahon

    • @aztn19
      @aztn19 Před 3 lety +20

      Or that “It’s The Magic Of Rape!!” hasn’t been made into a t-shirt or meme yet either

    • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
      @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před 3 lety +14

      I want a Yetay t-shirt.

    • @christopherstuart9190
      @christopherstuart9190 Před 3 lety

      Well, MDAC1012, did the phrase "Luke Spencer the good guy rapist" make it onto a substantial number of T-shirts circa 1981?

  • @mattdeakin1472
    @mattdeakin1472 Před 3 lety +151

    "Long before people stopped caring about Alberto Del Rio as a human being" 😂😂

    • @SegaDream131
      @SegaDream131 Před 3 lety +11

      All I ever got out of that guy was he was from Mehico....

  • @monkeyman5866
    @monkeyman5866 Před 3 lety +563

    "But the biggest disappointment of all: he started calling himself The Doinkster"
    Maybe if he called himself El Doinkerino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před 3 lety +336

    I came so early the monster trucks are still pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing.

    • @joshuahirst7218
      @joshuahirst7218 Před 3 lety +30

      And pushing the trucks back and forth it just keeps going on forever and they're not keeping score

    • @Matt1yu
      @Matt1yu Před 3 lety +21

      They just keep pushing alooong!

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao Před 3 lety +27

      _♪The giant feel off the ledge and it's presumed deeeeeeeeeeeeead....... 0★♪_

    • @Eminem200183
      @Eminem200183 Před 3 lety +9

      We need that and the WrestleRock Rumble on Spotify now. Lol

    • @technounionrepresentative4274
      @technounionrepresentative4274 Před 3 lety +3

      Absurdly humorous

  • @TheDoctaJS
    @TheDoctaJS Před 3 lety +113

    To be fair, pissing off Triple H during his reign of terror was pretty much what defined babyface status back in those days.

    • @Hillthugsta
      @Hillthugsta Před 3 lety +9

      or any of his runs as champ really. Even Brooklin Brawler got a pretty good pop from beating HHH.

  • @tonythepokemonguy751
    @tonythepokemonguy751 Před 3 lety +307

    “Shane O Mac Shane O snapped” such a word smith *chefs kiss*

  • @ItsStevieBoy
    @ItsStevieBoy Před 3 lety +438

    Imagine serving 2 years in prison because you were upset a McDonald’s was shut.

    • @toppingclover7561
      @toppingclover7561 Před 3 lety +27

      I lived in the area at that time. It was highly entertaining to watch the local news. Also, when this incident happened, IIRC, Patera and Mr. Saito were on the AWA roster.

    • @MightMouse2174
      @MightMouse2174 Před 3 lety +23

      No it waz definitely him fighting the police probably helped add on more of that time .....

    • @MovieEggman
      @MovieEggman Před 3 lety +11

      The 1980s were a different time, to say the least.

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Před 3 lety +5

      @@MovieEggman no twitter as an outlet for rage lmao jk

    • @BeeBumper
      @BeeBumper Před 2 lety +1

      Alcohol

  • @edward66703
    @edward66703 Před 3 lety +121

    Only took 7 years to get this video lol

  • @Imps603
    @Imps603 Před 3 lety +379

    I'm here so early Big Show is still a face... or a heel... or whatever

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 Před 3 lety +27

      here, I’ll help. I’m so early Big Show is still Paul Wight

    • @rayejohn79rj11
      @rayejohn79rj11 Před 3 lety +9

      @Yupify by the time you finished posting and hit send Big Show will be a face again...or a heel..whatever.. lol 😂

    • @elmagnificodep
      @elmagnificodep Před 3 lety +13

      @@MrCubFan415 I’m so early Paul Wight is still Andre the Giant’s son.

    • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
      @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před 3 lety +3

      Big Show is a wild card.

    • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
      @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před 3 lety +9

      I'm so early Big Show's monster truck is still pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing.

  • @jeremywilliams5141
    @jeremywilliams5141 Před 3 lety +317

    Mark Henry is a better heel than a face. As a heel, he was the European, ECW, and World Heavyweight champion. He was more of an indestructible badass in the ring.

    • @seanthomxx2694
      @seanthomxx2694 Před 3 lety +16

      Here's the problem: Stone Cold is legend because he didn't change his behavior when he turned face. The same with the Rock, Undertaker and (most of the time) Kane. It was working for Elias had it not been for bad booking. If Mark Henry and Miz kept the same persona and cut the same type of promos during their face turn as they did heels, they would have probably be more successful

    • @CallumDickson666
      @CallumDickson666 Před 3 lety +5

      As a face he provided your single & lonely grandmother some much needed lovin.

    • @shawnL2004
      @shawnL2004 Před 3 lety

      I think if mark henry beat john cena he'd be one of the best face simply by beating God like how cm punk was kinda the heel going into mitb 2011

    • @superstarthomas
      @superstarthomas Před 3 lety +4

      His heel run where he was breaking peoples legs with chair was his best heel run.

    • @erebustheslackerrr
      @erebustheslackerrr Před 3 lety +3

      Yea but Sexual Chocolate was entertaining

  • @michellemarty7510
    @michellemarty7510 Před 2 lety +91

    You slapping away the "It's the magic of rape" thing always makes me laugh. Thank you.

  • @BBoy4040
    @BBoy4040 Před 3 lety +128

    I never really looked at it like that. Heel Doink was a disgruntled clown who failed at making people happy and found the only thing makes him happy is seeing others be miserable. Matt Borne was amazing.

    • @theghostofthomasjenkins9643
      @theghostofthomasjenkins9643 Před 3 lety +29

      matt borne heel doink was incredible. it was one of those "only guy could ever make this work and he's currently the one in the role" gimmicks.

    • @mattjones5531
      @mattjones5531 Před 3 lety +28

      Matt Borne knew his in-ring psychology, i believe he once told Mick Foley that a good Heel doesn't do things such as eye gauges and low blows out of desperation but because he enjoys doing them, his mannerisms, his demeanor everything he brought to the Doink character was gold, you'd believe he could and would actually want to hurt you. Matt Borne was truly often imitated but never duplicated when it came to playing Doink the Clown.

    • @bashamd96
      @bashamd96 Před 3 lety +5

      Borne getting the ax is 100% why they turned Doink face the character was still over so it'd be a waste to just remove him but nobody could heel Doink like him so they had to hope a face turn could work and sadly the character is tainted cause that was equally shit as a post Borne heel Doink

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +12

      @@mattjones5531 it depends on the gimmick. Not every heel is a sadist some are just opportunists.

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +9

      Nobody seems to mention Bray Wyatt when talked about the influence of the heel doink character.

  • @michaelmythology
    @michaelmythology Před 3 lety +87

    The problem with The Miz's face turn is that they took away his greatest weapon, the microphone. Heel Miz is forever the the mic getting promo time to help build feuds but when he is a babyface, he never gets that chance. The most they let him down was host Miz TV to build OTHER people's feuds.

  • @mydogsnameislucy768
    @mydogsnameislucy768 Před 3 lety +101

    Look out for the best and worst "tweeners" coming in 2026.

  • @HandsomeSassage
    @HandsomeSassage Před 3 lety +123

    Miz’s 2019 face run just screamed wasted potential

    • @aamirkhan-iq9gl
      @aamirkhan-iq9gl Před 3 lety +18

      Ikr not his fault. Stupid booking, having him to shane on 3 different occasions! WTF!

    • @aamirkhan-iq9gl
      @aamirkhan-iq9gl Před 3 lety +10

      @My name may be Keith in 2018 i was behind miz and so were most of fans who began respecting him for ic runs he had since 2016. Yeah he is 100% better heel but that was the time for face miz to work

    • @Daxter-hl7dw
      @Daxter-hl7dw Před 3 lety +11

      Miz had better face moments when he was a heel going off on Roman and Cena.

    • @martinmortyry7444
      @martinmortyry7444 Před 3 lety +2

      @My name may be Keith i call bs. I loved heel Miz, his feud against Dolph Ziggler was the best midcard programme in ages. His face work is very awkward, but it's mainly due to his affiliation with the "bad guys" and serious mistreatment on WWE's side.

    • @martinmortyry7444
      @martinmortyry7444 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Daxter-hl7dw and Bryan. Don't ever forget the GM feud.

  • @MrBeardsley
    @MrBeardsley Před 3 lety +254

    I was surprised Charlotte didn’t make the list, but then I remembered she’s never really had a proper face run. Whenever they’ve tried to turn her it never seems to get off the ground usually because they just don’t commit to it. The one time it seemed like they were gonna really make a go of it, it completely backfired and they accidentally turned Becky Lynch into their most popular babyface since Cena’s peak.

    • @ralphjb
      @ralphjb Před 3 lety +22

      I was there that night at Summerslam 2018. We cheered the shit out of Becky. It was awesome.

    • @shaunelliott8583
      @shaunelliott8583 Před 3 lety +29

      And yet funnily enough, that's why she probably should have made the list. After all, it's the worst face turns, not the worst face runs

    • @TaliaIGhul
      @TaliaIGhul Před 3 lety +9

      I never looked at Charlotte's last face turn as a face turn....more like a tweener.

    • @shaunelliott8583
      @shaunelliott8583 Před 3 lety +7

      @@TaliaIGhul exactly. That's why it is a poor attempt at a face turn

    • @flamingythermit314
      @flamingythermit314 Před 3 lety +4

      Nonono the summer 2017-summer 2018 "who can I make magic with next?" Charlotte flair was most definitely a baby face and an atrocious one at that. They were still calling her "the queen", she still wore the fancy robes, but she was so incredibly wooden on the mic it was painful. Becky lynch catching fire was the best thing for Charlotte's career

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 Před 3 lety +23

    I just imagined a song "Kane the Good Guy Rapist" to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon."

    • @salvatorebigpussybonpensie3352
      @salvatorebigpussybonpensie3352 Před 3 lety +4

      Im gonna need the lyrics to this

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 3 lety

      hahahha Horror movies are shit

    • @Thundarr100
      @Thundarr100 Před 3 lety

      The thing is that Kane's face turn COULD have worked. If Lita had gradually appeared to have warmed up to Kane, possibly from Stockholm Syndrome, then Kane's face turn could have made at least SOME sense. But the way they handled it was too abrupt. I guess they kind of had to, because people would have noticed that Lita wasn't showing any signs of pregnancy. But they could have stretched it out at least another two or three weeks.

  • @seanthomxx2694
    @seanthomxx2694 Před 3 lety +48

    " the World Cup winner Shane Mcmahon, the wrestling world cup not the soccer one"
    *Please don't give Vince Ideas*

    • @VI_V2
      @VI_V2 Před 3 lety +7

      Actually TNA beat him to the punch.

    • @seanthomxx2694
      @seanthomxx2694 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VI_V2 I missed those, back when TNA maintained good relationships with Mexican and Japanese promotions

    • @jordanthomas7798
      @jordanthomas7798 Před 3 lety +1

      Messi is the Hulk Hogan of football

  • @shawnL2004
    @shawnL2004 Před 3 lety +150

    its weird how randy orton became a face in his later years by simply being him and rko'ing fools

    • @BmanTheChamp
      @BmanTheChamp Před 3 lety +19

      To be fair a lot of that was because of those RKO Outta Nowhere meme videos.

    • @shawnL2004
      @shawnL2004 Před 3 lety +2

      @@BmanTheChamp I still count that as how randy orton sells rkos. Wouldn't be the same if anybody else did it

    • @almightycinder
      @almightycinder Před 3 lety +12

      His entrance theme literally saw he's schizophrenic. Possibly bi-polar, and a bunch of things Vince doesn't understand. He doesn't need a reason to turn heel or babyface. The voices told him to.

    • @AngryIrishBenjamin
      @AngryIrishBenjamin Před 3 lety +9

      People could relate to a guy who just does what he wants when he wants, and in style. Who among us hasn't wanted to cut loose and smack the unpleasant people around us some at least once?

    • @shawnL2004
      @shawnL2004 Před 3 lety +2

      @@AngryIrishBenjamin agree. It's like a stone cold type deal just more agile And for longer

  • @Lunacorva
    @Lunacorva Před 3 lety +201

    Give Lucha Underground more flowers. They actually managed to book a convincing babyface Alberto.

    • @dieselx506
      @dieselx506 Před 3 lety +35

      FACTS, Lucha Underground is actually a top notch show, or it was

    • @1krani
      @1krani Před 3 lety +26

      To be fair, they booked him like that in a Mexican Godfather gimmick. Not exactly a typical babyface character to play an implied crime boss.

    • @barrodexteriit.9301
      @barrodexteriit.9301 Před 3 lety +26

      Lucha Underground, by far, is my favorite wrestling promotion ever. It's just phenomenal too bad it got cancelled.

    • @1krani
      @1krani Před 3 lety +19

      @@barrodexteriit.9301
      I blame lack of push. It was on a premium channel and the only reason I ever heard of it was because an internet reviewer I follow made a video about it. Even then, only watched it because it went on to Netflix.
      That was a show whose production demanded a better time slot and it barely made back its money. So, they canned it.

    • @talb4601
      @talb4601 Před 3 lety +8

      @@1krani NETFLIX should buy them out.

  • @supermario_49
    @supermario_49 Před 3 lety +170

    Nothing better than a Wrestling With Wregret “Worst” video!

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 Před 3 lety +6

      Nothing better than a Worst video?
      What about Zane's wonderful "Classic PPV Review" series? :)

    • @mrlaidback83
      @mrlaidback83 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kenterminateddq5311 especially with that old school west coast hip hop intro

    • @supermario_49
      @supermario_49 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kenterminateddq5311 That too! His Classic PPV Reviews are awesome, especially when he’s reviewing bad PPVs so it still technically falls in the “Worst” category xD

  • @evandemers3753
    @evandemers3753 Před 3 lety +35

    Kevin Owens as a babyface didn't exactly set the world on fire. Funny, considering the fact that his best buddy, Sami Zayn, who came into WWE as one of the biggest natural babyfaces one could ever imagine, is actually doing quite well for himself as a heel.

    • @reddeath5791
      @reddeath5791 Před 3 lety +2

      I’ll admit that Sami Zayn is a great heel, but I’m longing for him to turn face and be pushed to the moon. Sami Zayn just seems like more of a babyface and he deserves to become world champion

    • @chihollywood9379
      @chihollywood9379 Před 3 lety

      @@reddeath5791 i actually rather c him pushed as a heel

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 Před 3 lety +58

    Ahmed Johnson should be on both the Top 8 Worst Heel Turns video and this video.
    Ahmed joined the Nation, a group that he tried to take down for months. Then right after Ahmed joined and got injured, he got kicked out by the Nation and became a face again.
    WTF?

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 Před 3 lety +4

      @Jay Harv28 ....and then turned into a doppleganger of Abdullah The Butcher later on.

    • @Eminem200183
      @Eminem200183 Před 3 lety +3

      Good Point Ken

  • @SethColby69
    @SethColby69 Před 3 lety +250

    Honestly gotta say that drew mcintyre is probably the best babyfaces we've had in a while , he's excellent at promos , is smart in not falling for the most obvious heel tricks that every babyface falls for and he's just badass. seriously THAT'S how you book a babyface

    • @Venemofthe888
      @Venemofthe888 Před 3 lety +39

      Hes is probably one of the best performers all round that there is

    • @lynackhilou4865
      @lynackhilou4865 Před 3 lety +33

      Yeah I like he's the more badass babyface rather than the typical naive one wwe loves so much

    • @KitsuneRokaku
      @KitsuneRokaku Před 3 lety +24

      Maybe because he pulled those tricks as a heel. He would probably start to fall for it then realize "...Hey, wait a minute"

    • @scottnomore9489
      @scottnomore9489 Před 3 lety +15

      He is also a smart ass to a degree you can not only smirk with but also see potential for a later heel turn if they want to go that way in a few months.

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety

      Hes still too clean tho

  • @GloTheActivist300
    @GloTheActivist300 Před 3 lety +30

    I always hated how Vince and Kurt just turned heel the night after Survivor Series. Jericho nearly cost WWF that night yet other than forcing him to face Kane on Raw, Vince backed Jericho even helping him win the Undisputed Title.

  • @toptenguy1
    @toptenguy1 Před 3 lety +28

    3:55 : Did Owen CHOOSE to stay? I thought Vince refused to let him out of his contract, while he felt Bulldog and Anvil were expendable?

    • @MrTaylorAries
      @MrTaylorAries Před 2 lety +6

      He refused to release Owen with the others so he didn't have a choice really

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi Před 3 lety +82

    Del Rio as a face was crap, but his double turn with Ziggler was one of the best double turns I've ever seen.

    • @RyanPelley1
      @RyanPelley1 Před 3 lety +22

      Absolutely agree. It's just a shame that the fallout was Ziggler feuding with AJ and Big E.

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Před 3 lety +6

      There aren't that many

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi Před 3 lety +4

      @@standardofexcellence Also true. Not easy to do well all the same.

  • @trooper9249
    @trooper9249 Před 3 lety +18

    You know, I think Face Doink could've work if they had kept him as a darker character. Maybe turn him into something like the Boogeyman: a creepy, intimidating figure who makes heels wet themselves whenever they have to step into the ring with him.

  • @joshuaottley7902
    @joshuaottley7902 Před 3 lety +17

    "It's the magic of-"
    *smack*
    "NO! NO!"

  • @fernando.3692
    @fernando.3692 Před 3 lety +38

    I feel like people always ask for heel turns from wrestlers because being a heel is basically allowing more freedom in their promos
    as a badass- you have to take caution in what you say or do
    because those actions may not make you look like a good guy

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 Před 3 lety +3

      Other promotions do faces pretty well but WWE's faces either have no personality or character beyond good guy or girl, are gullible idiots who fall for whatever the heels do or are pricks who are more heelish than the actual heels. The way he acted in some storylines the John Cena character came off as a delusional heel who'd convinced himself he was a heroic face which the Firefly Funhouse match with Bray finally acknowledged.

  • @djpegao
    @djpegao Před 3 lety +35

    Poor Miz....
    He could be a semi decent face if he gave him a semi decent feud and a short stint, that's one of the worst things about his face runs they go way too long and have 0 endgame.

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +1

      Nah he's just too punchable. Shawn was too but he was good looking so at least female fans cheered him. Miz ist just a natural born douche.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 3 lety +2

      It wasn't even prime Shane from 20 years earlier that he was feuding with but rather bloated over the hill part timer Shane.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 3 lety +1

      BTW it's weird to think that Shane is now about as old as Vince was during the Attitude Era.

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Před 3 lety +2

      To be fair, his second face turn at least made sense. Unfortunately they booked him quite badly

    • @alienraven
      @alienraven Před 3 lety

      I agree, under the right circumstances Face Miz could be great. Keep his cockyness, but make it more of a chill, laid back, RVD kind of cocky. then put him up against a super intense monster heel like Lars Sullivan for example then i think it could really work..

  • @caseytune6433
    @caseytune6433 Před 3 lety +21

    I will never forget Del Rio running down Santa, then one segment later John Cena declares to avenge him. When he yells “For Santaaaaaaaaa!!!” I lose it every time.

    • @hhtptai
      @hhtptai Před 3 lety +4

      @@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Del Rio deserved it idc.

  • @thespongemonkey
    @thespongemonkey Před 3 lety +34

    I think miz's second face turn would have been fine had he not lost always.

  • @HeyLookItsTheGuy
    @HeyLookItsTheGuy Před 3 lety +20

    The miz from 2018-2019 could’ve actually have been a solid to even good baby face. They just fed him to every pet project in sight and he never got his comeuppance on Shane McMahon. After looking like a chump for months, fans just lost interest, and turning heel was the only logical thing to do at that point

  • @NexusFantismo
    @NexusFantismo Před 3 lety +65

    Zane I gotta tell you : Your videos are always right on time. I’m suffering through a serious battle with depression and anxiety and your videos help cheer me up. I know that may seem silly to some people, but that small glimmer of positivity, hilarity and sarcasm that only you can bring gives me that little fuel to help me get through a rough day. Cheers man

    • @graceannemorgan1035
      @graceannemorgan1035 Před rokem +1

      I went through the same thing my friend, The Lord hrlprf mr out of it so I'll pray for you and I'm sure things will get better.

    • @Michael-cz6ob
      @Michael-cz6ob Před rokem +1

      I feel ya. When I feel like that I find comfort in fun videos like these. Gives out nostalgia, laughs, sarcasm.. all good stuff

  • @GEM99Show
    @GEM99Show Před 3 lety +31

    FINALLY, YOU POSTED THE OPPOSITE VERSION OF THE WORST HEEL TURNS.

  • @ShinRyojin
    @ShinRyojin Před 3 lety +12

    Making Seth into a good face After his return from injury should’ve been a no brainer. They hyped up his recovery on 24/7 which fans have enjoyed watching and rooting for his recovery, people were anticipating when he would return, and got a huge pop when she showed up and pedigreed Roman reigns. The buildup was there all he had to do was for the next night shoot a promo in the ring where he admits that he fucked up and chose his career over his brothers. In the process, that decision cost him his title, his health, and most of all his best friends. There should’ve been a moment where he disavowed the Authority and tells everyone that selling your soul to them would only destroy you in the end which will anger Triple H and call Rollins an ungrateful SOB.

  • @JackDManheim
    @JackDManheim Před 3 lety +5

    That "Quarterback to Defensive Tackle" analogy was brilliant.
    Well said, good sir.

  • @redmangc1160
    @redmangc1160 Před 3 lety +26

    I gotta say an honorable mention for Hulk Hogans random ass Face turn IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NWO RUN

    • @aztn19
      @aztn19 Před 3 lety +4

      The WCW turn from the NWO, or the WWF/E turn from it?

    • @tylerboliver3428
      @tylerboliver3428 Před 3 lety +8

      If you mean his return with the Federation there is no way he was staying heel.

    • @freakfoxvevo7915
      @freakfoxvevo7915 Před 2 lety

      Tbf, the NwO elite was born to die when it formed after that fateful day of January 4th, 1999

  • @bloodguzzler
    @bloodguzzler Před 3 lety +10

    I was hoping you’d say the same thing about Kane as you did Big Show.
    “Which face turn? I don’t know. How about all of them?”

    • @Thundarr100
      @Thundarr100 Před 3 lety +4

      I don't know. Some of his earlier face turns, when he was still wearing the mask, were actually pretty good.

    • @EssexAggiegrad2011
      @EssexAggiegrad2011 Před rokem

      @@Thundarr100 His return in 2000 with Paul Bearer was legendary

  • @TheCrimsonOrchestra
    @TheCrimsonOrchestra Před 3 lety +5

    "Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat" -- Ken Patera, Wisdom of an Olympic Heel

  • @thealjohnsonshow2188
    @thealjohnsonshow2188 Před 3 lety +21

    1. (19:16-19:18)
    *Another rare f-bomb by Brian Zane*
    2. (19:36-19:38)
    *LOL* / #Classic

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 3 lety +43

    Stone Cold Soap's face turn was awfully. He became a Scented Facial Wash.

    • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
      @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před 3 lety +12

      Stone Soap Clean Austin.

    • @soupalex
      @soupalex Před 3 lety +8

      "if you want me to work up a fine lather and gently massage the soap into my skin, unblock my pores, and rinse… give me a heck yes"

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +1

      Which face turn are you talking about?

  • @georgewhite8242
    @georgewhite8242 Před 3 lety +27

    Edge in summer of 2010 was pretty bad as he kept on bullying wheelchair bound paul bearer

    • @MrDp115
      @MrDp115 Před 3 lety +9

      Considering Paul betrayed Undertaker for his sadistic son, is Edge really in the wrong?

    • @paulgarcia9682
      @paulgarcia9682 Před 3 lety +5

      Best part of Edge as a heel was Lita's 🍈 🍈

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK Před 3 lety +6

      Then he tried to get over a "spear" chant. Worst moment of his career.

    • @MrDp115
      @MrDp115 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SteRDLK that was earlier on the year but your right that was cringy as hell.

    • @sethstrattan7380
      @sethstrattan7380 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@MrDp115true. I enjoy that since that’s what Paul got what he deserved for that betrayal

  • @vampman87
    @vampman87 Před 2 lety +4

    I remember an anniversary episode on Raw (I think it was 2011) that had Lita on it. There was a backstage segment where she approaches Kane, they seem to fumble their words because they're both uncomfortable talking about their past, and the camera then pans to Ron Simmons, who just says "Damn" and storms off.
    Yup, glad they played off one of the most horrific and infamous storylines as just a one-off comedy gag!

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 Před 4 měsíci

      Makes a lot more sense now we know Vince was as much a rapist as his friend, Trump.

  • @shutinpaladin6811
    @shutinpaladin6811 Před 3 lety +11

    Re: Ken Patera. Lol, holy shit, they booked him like he was still a heel.

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Před 3 lety +1

      to be fair, Heenan had so much heel heat that anything remotely close to outright murdering him in the ring would have gotten a standing ovation lol

  • @dbone3356
    @dbone3356 Před 3 lety +14

    I kinda liked Face Miz in 2019, it might have worked better if he won his feud with Shane.

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi Před 3 lety +19

    The Miz's face turn in the mid 10s was awful. Not the face run itself - him using his arrogance and his bad attitude to stand up to heels was really cool, but it was the setup: there were actually loads of legitimately heroic-looking moments and brief flashes of actual gallantry earlier that year (his MITB leg injury followed by him wrestling clean the following night to reach the final of that tournament being a great example) that would've been an amazing set up for that but they flat out did not use any of it; just had him disappear for a little while, come back, squash Otunga and be all "guess I'm a good guy now!"
    And this is why I can't watch wrestling any more, because it makes me say shit like this and wonder what the point is in watching if all I have left is "well they should've done this."

  • @CHAOTIXMaddLass
    @CHAOTIXMaddLass Před 3 lety +9

    2 of my personal faves from mr. Zane
    1. The top 8 worsts
    2. Classic ppv reviews

  • @MaddMan621
    @MaddMan621 Před 3 lety +19

    It’s a huge shame that Owen was forced to stay (you know, aside from them making him do an unsafe stunt that ended his life)
    Vince was using him for revenge. Shawn was against him. Hunter was against him. Stone Cold was against him. His ceiling was effectively wacky heel tag team shenanigans with Jeff Jarrett.

    • @erickgarcia6379
      @erickgarcia6379 Před 2 lety +4

      From what I understand, Vince convinced Owen to stay and give him a shot at the WWF title, which never happened because Austin didn't want to work with him.
      And the funny thing is that Austin would also bury Jeff Jarrett although that issue of them is separate, since Austin would hate him more for Debra.

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 Před 2 lety +2

    Because hitting Santa Claus with a BMW 5 Series is the best way to get yourself over as a babyface

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 Před 3 lety +28

    Just imagine what the reaction would be nowadays, if Kane and Lita storyline happened today just imagine.

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +9

      Being already a wrestling fan at this point in time believe me: It was as weird back then as it would be today.

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 3 lety +5

      Imagine being called a snow flake or SJW for supporting the mistreatment of that story line where a man older than the girl...OH WAIT!!! (Aliyah and Murphy)...no, just dont put that Kane story to light. Lita was on some drugs because shes a damn fool and I remember interviews.

    • @FreddyJenkins
      @FreddyJenkins Před 3 lety

      Yeah but if it were roman reigns I'd like to see him job to Edge

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Před 3 lety +1

      oh man lol...pretty sure wwe would cease to exist
      i'm honestly surprised people haven't dug this shit up and tried to destroy wwe these days...but then again i think most people who don't watch wwe could hardly care less about wwe lol, let alone wanting to destroy it

  • @darrenlynch6122
    @darrenlynch6122 Před 3 lety +22

    I personally think Seth Rollins Face run really took a positive turn during his "Work horse" run. Working nearly an hour in some matches and really burned out after he won the universal title. Mainly due to WWE presenting him as the always smiling and joking face that some just can't get behind. Seth rollins getting the baby face momentum that lead him to a rumble win was a highlight for me from his entire run.

    • @vbadger1056
      @vbadger1056 Před 3 lety +6

      Unlike orton i will always say Seth was a great babyface. What really hurt him in 2019 was the bray feud. He was still liked and cheered by a majority of the fan base till the bray feud which was just a terrible idea

    • @Homerstar
      @Homerstar Před 3 lety +2

      @@vbadger1056 Well, that and his behaviour on Twitter.

    • @vbadger1056
      @vbadger1056 Před 3 lety

      @@Homerstar Tbh the twitter stuff didn’t effect his crowd reactions and he was still liked by a majority of the crowds after that. His twitter stuff that people were upset about were in June and July between stomping grounds and ER and he didn’t really start getting noticeably booed till the bray feud in October

    • @addi543
      @addi543 Před 3 lety

      Seth had the same problem Shawn Michaels had in 1996 when he won the world title. Everyone that Seth could’ve feuded with that had credibility was either gone from Raw or the company (Roman, Ambrose), injured (AJ), already feuding with someone else (Owens, Joe) or on hiatus (Brock) leaving him with scraps in the form of the human wet blanket of heat known as Corbin

  • @theghostofthomasjenkins9643

    i'm sorry, but the miz on talking smack and chewing out enzo are two of the biggest babyface moments in the past 5 years.
    but yeah, he shouldn't be a face beyond that.

  • @ChanManChewey
    @ChanManChewey Před 3 lety +11

    Yeah, that kane storyline was a weird time. The reason lita was the heel was she and edge had a fling behind matt hardy's back and when the internet finds out what u did they'll never let it go and matt got fired because of it and fans were really pissed so by proxy kane was matt. So yeah kane was the good guy after all that.

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 3 lety +1

      ????

    • @ChanManChewey
      @ChanManChewey Před 3 lety +1

      @@mychaeljones7526 the matt hardy/lita/edge love triangle happened during the kane/lita storyline

  • @Slick5150
    @Slick5150 Před 3 lety +25

    Randy Orton & The Miz just those type of guys where it's like they're ok at being good but they're Experts at being Bad

  • @kyleolson8977
    @kyleolson8977 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm glad you finally got back to some material like this. The "Wregret" recently has been a lot of Wregrettably cheap Wrestling material rather than Wregretable items from people who should know better. It's not that you aren't putting in good work, but I think this material is naturally funnier.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Před 2 lety +3

    Babyface Owen vs Shawn Michaels fresh off of Montreal was missed opportunity

  • @AJARyan-yn2uv
    @AJARyan-yn2uv Před měsícem +1

    Almost 4 years later and Orton, Miz and Rollins are thriving as faces.

  • @jll716
    @jll716 Před 3 lety +6

    14:51 - "It's hard to be portrayed as an uppity aristocrat one week and then play a relatable man of the people we the next. "
    It was exactly at this point that the video cut to a political ad featuring Donald Trump.

  • @jeromelancashire3278
    @jeromelancashire3278 Před 3 lety +31

    Brian Zane: We will be looking at the worst face turns in all of wrestling,
    Also Brian Zane: The list is entirely WWE superstars.

  • @KegOfMeat
    @KegOfMeat Před 3 lety +11

    And now Elias has turned heel again..Great. That’ face turn was a waste

  • @joeallan3706
    @joeallan3706 Před 3 lety +16

    doink brah, making kids cry brah!

  • @SethKasso
    @SethKasso Před 3 lety

    Been waiting for this for a long time. Much love, Bry.

  • @Zombiekilleryamato
    @Zombiekilleryamato Před 3 lety +5

    Shane turned on miz at the fastlane rematch and mania 35 was falls count anywhere

  • @HeyItsAJOmega
    @HeyItsAJOmega Před 3 lety +4

    Shoutout to 19:34 making me blow up laughing so hard I nearly fell off my chair.

  • @johnnykuhn9111
    @johnnykuhn9111 Před 3 lety +1

    I had never seen Del Rio hit Santa with the car before either. I was practically in tears. Hilarious!

  • @johnenigma8506
    @johnenigma8506 Před 3 lety +17

    Lacey Evans is a strange case. If you know her backstory, it would sound readymade to be a babyface but WWE can never seem to capture that.
    I will say Del Rio was a more likeable babyface in Lucha Underground. He brought more of a fire when he was there.

    • @philwill0123
      @philwill0123 Před rokem

      Problem is, Charlotte flair a natural heel, Sasha banks is a heel. Bayley is a heel. Becky is a great tween.
      But WWE have become obsessed with trying to make Charlotte a face champion for years, so everyone else has to be a heel. They forced Becky to be a heel, but she's too well liked. About 70% of the womens roster are heels, 20% are face who are bayley 1.0 imitations, and the other 10% have "quirky" gimmicks.
      As you said, Lacey would be the next patriot good guy. But whoever came up with the southern belle gimmick should be shot. Because it limits Lacey. And her finisher is rubbish

    • @johnenigma8506
      @johnenigma8506 Před rokem +1

      @@philwill0123 Here we are a year later and WWE botched Lacey Evans as a babyface this time. It's funny sometimes.

  • @eastsidereviews727
    @eastsidereviews727 Před 3 lety +7

    Nice! Now we have to get Zane's thoughts on the best heel and face turns!

  • @ecogreco
    @ecogreco Před 3 lety +4

    I think Erich Rowan's face turn was underrated. He was like a modern day version of Kane during his first face turn, where he was a misunderstood and mistreated outcast. I also think Charlotte Flair as a face doesn't make sense, because she is naturally a heel. I agree with the last entry, I hated how they turned Kane face and made Lita look like the villain afterwards. After Lita "betrayed" Kane, Lita was then stalked by Kane which is a disturbing real life mirror where women who leave abusive partners are then stalked by them. It's as if the creative staff comprised of ex-Taliban members and abusive husband who just lost their wives.

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 3 lety

      You mean old white dudes with an ego and misogny complex?

    • @pepito2847
      @pepito2847 Před rokem

      I honestly bought Rowan as a babyface more than Luke Harper
      No offense, but the Harper character never came off like he could pull the tall misunderstood babyface
      Plus those sheep masks of Rowan’s were pretty popular if I remember!!

  • @jonathansmith2638
    @jonathansmith2638 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for all the great content Bryan

  • @addidaswguy
    @addidaswguy Před 3 lety +1

    I LOVED the Two Man Power Trip, I was sooo bummed when he got injured, also I loved "What" when Austin was doing it lol

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 Před 3 lety +4

    When I was five years old I used to have nightmares about triple H turning on Randy Orton, and I don’t know why.

  • @hollywoodtre6098
    @hollywoodtre6098 Před 2 lety +3

    They gave up on Robert Roode waaay to fast. They give up on everyone way too fast. It’s about finding the right character and not giving up after 2 weeks and getting them wins. If he was a heel instead of face it would’ve gotten over because he could talk as a heel. We all know by now WWE has no patience and they don’t make the best choices lol

  • @yourtheresistance3870
    @yourtheresistance3870 Před 3 lety +2

    Just learned like a week ago that brians a legit wrestling talent, now im an even bigger zane fan, a ZANEAMANIAC!

  • @danielhess1082
    @danielhess1082 Před 3 lety

    Been waiting for this for a while. Now Brian you should do the best heel and face turns

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 3 lety +8

    Brock Lesnar's face turn in 2003 and Charlotte Flair's face turn in 2018 were weird.

    • @jackcarraway4707
      @jackcarraway4707 Před 3 lety +2

      I'm surprised Zane didn't list 2003 Lesnar. He cut an infamous promo with Michael Cole that showed why he needed Paul Heyman.

    • @addi543
      @addi543 Před 3 lety

      @@jackcarraway4707 agreed, but Brock was so red hot after beating Rock and Undertaker that they had no choice but to turn him face

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem +1

      Yes and no. 2003 Lesnar may not have felt like the hero but his love-hate relationship with Kurt Angle is what carried his babyface persona

  • @Dinobot2
    @Dinobot2 Před 3 lety +4

    Austin's face turn in 2001 was worse than his heel turn. Sure, it was great to have him back as a face, but they really could have done it over a period of like the next couple of months slowly and organically. Plus we never got a proper blowoff to the Austin-Rock feud with Rock as the face and Austin as the heel.

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem

      Heel austin wasn't as bad as people say it is. Austin needed reinventing and he couldn't change his gimmick so just being heel while maintaining his persona was the way to go.

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 Před 3 lety

    Any mention of Alabama Doink makes me think of Golden Corral hahaha...that match with Heidenreich and his duct taped gear was surely a classic!!!

  • @TheMTwinny
    @TheMTwinny Před 3 lety

    The timing of that chair shot and "Burn In My Light" at 8:11 was perfect.

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon Před 3 lety +9

    Let's be honest, The Miz face turn in 2018 was better than 2012. Sure he wasn't a singles champion but at least he and Shane McMahon held the SmackDown Tag Team Championships longer than 24 hours.

  • @robertmoore8821
    @robertmoore8821 Před 3 lety +32

    In Steve Austin's defense,he was never truly a heel in real fans eyes.He was still "Stone Cold" and he was very entertaining as a heel.

    • @mrnice162
      @mrnice162 Před 3 lety

      never truly a heel in real fans eyes ? sounds ridiculous

    • @robertmoore8821
      @robertmoore8821 Před 3 lety

      @@mrnice162 All the fake fans booed him when he turned heel.I'm sorry I don't play along and let the storylines get shoved down my throat.

    • @leostenbuck4194
      @leostenbuck4194 Před 3 lety

      @@robertmoore8821 They didn't boo him, they didn't care.
      He had X-Pac heat.

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Před 3 lety

      @@mrnice162 Not after '96

    • @mrnice162
      @mrnice162 Před 3 lety

      @@robertmoore8821 fake fans ??? now you sound ridiculous

  • @jleszuk
    @jleszuk Před 3 měsíci +2

    The Miz’s is actually more likable as a heel than as a face. And I remember his victory against Cena at wrestle mania was the first time i can remember a heel being the underdog.

  • @greatdaein6699
    @greatdaein6699 Před 3 lety +2

    I was in the crowd when they filmed the Christmas episode in 2013 in advance, I was 12 at the time, you know the ones who were supposed to be sad that Santa got run over by a car. Me and my friends still laughed.

  • @patricknguyen7530
    @patricknguyen7530 Před 3 lety +8

    Correct if I’m wrong about Owen here but wasn’t Owen essentially forced to stay in the WWE because Vince refused to let Owen out of his contract because I believe both Bret and Martha have confirmed that

    • @Slick5150
      @Slick5150 Před 3 lety +3

      That's correct, Owen wanted out but Vince said No

    • @Venemofthe888
      @Venemofthe888 Před 3 lety

      I think he also recently signed a new contract as well taking it till 2000 or 2001 end date.

  • @superrobz
    @superrobz Před 3 lety +10

    The Shane Douglas “teacher” face turn in wwf was cringeworthy compared to his ECW heel stuff

    • @monkeyman5866
      @monkeyman5866 Před 3 lety +4

      Always loved ECW Shane Douglas because he always knew how to be a prick.

    • @superrobz
      @superrobz Před 3 lety +2

      @@monkeyman5866 he wasn’t exactly wrong though with a lot of the stuff he said despite being a heel

    • @robbiesilverwolf
      @robbiesilverwolf Před 3 lety +8

      I’m pretty sure his teacher gimmick was a heel

    • @Baastilein31
      @Baastilein31 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol Dean Douglas was definetly a heel character. Do you folks even know what a heel is?

    • @madamefeast4824
      @madamefeast4824 Před 3 lety

      But that was a heel character. He wasn't a face as Dean Douglas.

  • @liumellowyellow666
    @liumellowyellow666 Před 3 lety

    Hyped you used Burn in my Light!!! Even though he hasn’t used it in years to me it will always more iconic of the Orton themes

  • @supershadoemellentin
    @supershadoemellentin Před 3 lety

    Love your videos i watch several of them more then once

  • @DaCaptainDerpy
    @DaCaptainDerpy Před 3 lety +17

    Hot Take:
    Sinn Bodhi is a much better clown than Doink. There, I said it.

  • @jcace13
    @jcace13 Před 3 lety +11

    The top 8 worst babyface turns are all Big Shows.

    • @ecogreco
      @ecogreco Před 3 lety +2

      I actually think the Big Show is much better as a face. As a heel he is a one dimensional monster, as a face he seems like a modern day Andre the Giant.

  • @WWEvsWCW4life
    @WWEvsWCW4life Před 3 lety

    The editing in these videos is top notch!
    👌🏾😂

  • @willyboi5985
    @willyboi5985 Před 3 lety

    That magic of **** bit killed me Brian. Thanks.

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 Před 3 lety +3

    I must point out that The Miz first face turn happened on Main event, because why not I guess.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před 3 lety +6

    I think Mox's WWE heel turn would make it on a revised "worst heel turns in wrestling" list. It should've been played as Dean/Mox waiting for the perfect opportunity and letting Seth build it all up for years after Seth's betrayal just to tear it all away when it would hurt the most so Seth would feel the pain Mox felt all those years ago. Instead it just turned out to be generic as all hell and never clicked at all.
    So yes, basically, Mox should've ended up being Akechi from Persona 5. Making a person who previously treated you like garbage think you're on their side only to rip it all away when it would hurt the most.

  • @CharmCityGamer
    @CharmCityGamer Před 3 lety

    Playing the banger known as Burn In My Light for the Randy/Seth segment gets an instant up. Love that music!

  • @themobilejockey2380
    @themobilejockey2380 Před 3 lety

    Its been a couple years since I watched but im glad to be back

  • @owen800xl
    @owen800xl Před 3 lety +4

    When I saw this video my immediate thought was Carlito. The face turn absolutely killed him and took away everything that was enjoyable about the character, even his reason for turning was awful (constantly betraying Chris Masters). I'm surprised he's not no.1 let alone not on the list at all. Did you simply forget him or did you not see the turn as being as awful as I saw it?

  • @monkeyman5866
    @monkeyman5866 Před 3 lety +5

    As a kid, I always tried to like the faces, but I could just never like Randall Keith.

  • @reillymcwriting
    @reillymcwriting Před 3 lety

    I’ve been waiting for this for years, Zane! Ever since worst heel turns! Heck. Yeah!

  • @user-ez5nh3yz1u
    @user-ez5nh3yz1u Před 3 měsíci +1

    "Kane the good guy rapist" is one of the funniest things ever said. The way I read stuff like this when I was a kid and watching WWE every episode was that once a storyline ends and a new status quo is set they don't want you to think about the old storyline anymore unless they specifically bring it up in the new storyline.
    So once Kane and took Lita and she was "pregnant" and they moved on to the story with Snitzky the whole issue of how they got together and how she got pregnant didnt count anymore because that was from the old story.