Is Yamaha CK61/CK88 Worth Buying Today?
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15:38 that's a good singing voice!
The piano sound is so awesome! Thanks Jeremy, not only for the sharing but also for your wonderful demos and performances! 😊
That electric piano patch at the beginning of the video sounded very rich and lush. The Piano sound you played had lots of punch and realism! Another plus is the full sized MIDI din plugs.
Winner winner!
And here we are again, I paired this with my go piano 88 by Roland and I could not be happier. small clubs and bars are my wheel house....This is great, awsome stuff ,man.
this year has been exceptional for Yamaha both in the home keyboards and performance keyboards. Here in India on the amateur front the PSR-E473 is on backorder, it is probably the only time such a thing has happened, and funnily being assembled here for a change.. I am hoping to get a CK88 before it runs out
As usual, an excellent review. I Love your videos. I'm hoping you can do a review of the Roland FP E50 in the near future.
This is a compelling instrument and looks like a home-run for Yamaha. If it had aftertouch I would be tempted to replace my Kurzweil SP6, but would miss the arpeggiator. Excellent demo!
Yes, this homerun is so good that Yamaha is abandoning the CP61, CP76, and CP88. Those users are getting screwed, it is pretty funny. Good thing I'm not one of them. 🤣🤣
Thank you for uploading the video. It was very helpful.☺
Having owned a Yamaha PSR SX700, I can completely agree with you that the FSB Key Action strikes a very good balance between Synth Action keys and for Piano Playing as well
One of my biggest gripe in the PSR E series was the key noise, wasn't really quiet during home playing no matter if using headphones, the FSB keybed is just so quiet, it's really a breeze to play...
And about Casual Live performances, it's definitely one of the best actions for almost every scenario like you said, really happy with the keyboard!
Great video as always Jeremy, Your content never disappoints!
IMHO the keyboard action of the SX700 and SX900 leaves a lot to be desired for how much they cost, particularly the SX900.
Hey just want to ask , is psr sx700 suitable for live performance? In terms of saving preset for each song and, amplification, can the built in amp active while the keybaord connect to output line to speaker?
la unica diferencia entre el fsb key action es solo el ruido ???
I have a ck88 and i absolutely love it. I have a 3 tier stand full of synths, and i desperately wanted an upgrade over the psr e473. I now use the 473 as a midi controller only. The CK is absolutely beautiful and covers so many bases. Amazing value!
Only 80 sounds?
Love the way you play the keys. Reminds me of my younger years.
Thank you so much for your effort and a lot of details you put into these videos.
I wqtched at least 10 if not 15 other videos of this keyboard and non of them showed (not even mentioned) the speakers' On/Off button for example.
Glad you like them!
That's funny - I've had one for a while now, and I never noticed it. I got in the habit, with the P-115, to stick a 1/4" adapter in the headphones output when I wanted to shut the speakers off. So, I just kept doing that with the CK88🤣.
It's not the keyboard that's amazing, but your hands on every keyboard that are amazing. You're awesome, my friend !
Thank you for your kind words, buddy. 😍
Such a bunch of regulators on the panel is just a dream! The display is too small, once it was the reason for my rejection of MOX, now it also makes you think... Thanks for the feedback.
Nice review Jeremy, looks like Yamaha has a winner with this one- great review.
Love your honesty Jeremy!
Thanks buddy.
This video along with a few others convinced me to pull the trigger on this awesome keyboard. Itll compliment my modest synth collection well and integrate perfectly. Tomorrow ill put my order in.😊
Finally... you got the chance to get this. So far, I'm loving the CK 61, together with my PsR Sx900.
If you had to pick just one, CK61 or the SX900?
I just wanted to thank you for this review! I've been trying to figure out what would make a better organ-style keyboard (I'm a guitar/drum guy currently) and no review even mentioned it. You've actually got video of the action of the keyboard. My hero!
Jeremy - great coverage of this awesome keyboard!
Very helpful video, thanks!
Thank you Jeremy for the review I have very recently purchased the 473 and would have definately done the jump to get this one. Andre SA
Hey Jeremy, I've been a 'beginner' keyboard player for MANY years and watching your videos just got me interested in fine tuning my skills at it again. I started out with an old Yamaha DGX205 (which I still have, and it still looks, works, and sounds pristine). That little 76 keyboard is from back in the day when Yamaha used to load up their instruments with all sorts of gimmicky 'sounds' and 'voices' (most of which no one ever used...perhaps except me).
JMO, but it seems to me that though the modern day onboard features and outputs on the keyboards are fancier (and in some cases, a bit more professional) the sound is basically the same---and it is a good sound. I plug mine into an audio interface that's hooked up to high-grade speakers, and this cheap old keyboard sounds like a Baby Grand. Well, not exactly...key noise. I'm looking into upgrading to a new 88 key model, but I still love this old one.
For the record, yamaha's home keyboards still do include the random uncomonly used, sounds. Many of these are xglight voices to make things compatible with standard midi systems, but for that end of the spectrum, most of the sounds even in the panel voices are still xglight voices but slightly better. This is beginning to evolv with the lastest of the 2 higher end psr-e models, but still holds true for the most part. Same goes with the accompanyment styles. They have added some new ones over time, but the bulk of them are ones that have been revamped and ported from keyboards dating back to the 2000s if not earlier. This along witht eh sounds is a factor that puts some picky people off the home keyboards from them, but I don't mind. Would I like the better sounds from the higher end keyboards to be brought down? Yes. Do I really care that much to tell people to get something else? No I don't. I guess it let's them really show the difference by putting mostly old sounds that are going on 30 years old onto the home keyboards and better sounds that still sometimes date back a while on the higher end ones.
Not sure I’d pick this over a YC but it is a better value. I have the Reface DX and combining the them of sorts into the CK was a good idea a few years ago. The Refaces hit the market back 2016 or so. Now it seems like Yamaha isn’t really trying anymore in 2023. MODX -> MODX+. No updated Montage yet. Genos is long in the tooth.
That piano sounds great. I appreciate you and your Honesty explaining things.
I appreciate that!
Hey Jeremy, great review as always! May I know what is the difference of this from the psr e473? I'm planning of buying a keyboard for home use for the most part. Thanks!
I agree on what you concluded in what is really missing in this keyboard👍😏
You do great reviews. Thanks for the info!
I'm happy to share what I know.
Couldn't agree with you more about what's missing in such a tempting package. Like 73 keys etc Just the same you made it very tempting Jeremy. Thanks❤❤❤❤
Excellent review Jeremy. The CK61 is the one I’ve had my heart set on. However while saving up for one the price has recently jumped up by £150 here in the UK 😳. Thanks a lot Yamaha, I’ll have to live with my (brilliant) little Casio CT-S1 for longer.
You're the 1st l've heard mention this keyboard is the Reface series in one. That's an eye opener. Seems like it takes a few keyboards to learn what you can live with, and live without.
Just bought a ck61. I am thoroughly satisfied.
I wanted to add that Yamaha was brilliant in coming out with this. The N-word Keyboard that those with deep pockets are buying are financially impractical for the rest of us, particularly if we are trying to be good stewards over the finances that we have.
This keyboard is great for the public musician that has little experience and for those like me that have been playing for quite a while. The worst part is that with so many controls at your fingertips one must settle themselves to not get addicted to "over-tweeking". 😁
I got mine before I saw your video, but your video confirmed my impressions. Great Job again, Sir. Be Blessed. 🙌 & 👐🙏.
Thanks for the great review. I’ve been wondering about this one. Currently getting by with an AKAI Mpk 249 but I have to haul my laptop around for the sound engine
It's a pain to haul laptops for sounds. Nothing beats power on and play. 😍
Wow, that's EXACTLY what I wanted Yamaha to do. Genius. They brought in all the CP, YC, FS, _and_ DX sounds plus customizations with full-size keys. That CK61 seems like it would fit nicely above my DGX-650 on a two-tier stand, or that CK88 could just replace my DGX.
Me too I'm thinking of replacing my DGX-650. Did you end up swapping?
@@daniroade Nah, I can't justify it. I'm not a stage performer. I'm barely a home performer. The DGX is more than good enough for my living room, and it needs to stay in my living room because it's heavy as hell! Maybe someday, I will supplement it with a CK61, but I would have to find a killer deal on a used one first.
its not the full reface series. It's more like the YC, CP (not sure if 1:1), but only some sounds from DX and CS, as they are standalone synthesizers
I switched to a CK88, from a P-115 and Reface CP, because I wanted more and higher quality sounds in addition to keeping the same basic piano sound and same keys as the P-115 had, and the wurli and clav from the Reface. I think the DGX has the same keys and basic grand piano sounds as the P-115. I'm not sure if the modeled damper resonance is included with the CK88 though. I think Yamaha tends to include that in the "home" models but not the "stage" models. I haven't noticed when playing it, but I think I read that somewhere.
Besides more good sounds, I wanted better layering capabilities, with volume sliders for each layer. I wanted fx with knobs, like the Reface has, but more of them. I also wanted better organ sounds, with more control, than the P-115 has. And I wanted DIN MIDI connections, because I got so frustrated by the P-115 having only USB, so I couldn't connect it directly to the Reface, which requires a weird adapter, which Yamaha included with the Reface. Finally, I needed to keep the board as light as possible... pretty much under 30 lbs. Anything above 40 was non negotiable. I'd have preferred a Montage M88x, I think it's called? I mean the new 88 key Montage, which has even more detailed pianos and Rhodes and clavs than the CK88, and actual FM and VA synth engines (the commenter above is correct about CK88 only having sampled sounds from those synths). However, the 88 key Montage is like 60 lbs, and I wouldn't dare carry something that expensive without a solid case, which adds more weight. I'd love one, but I wouldn't be able to carry it, and I'd need to. That's a core requirement. The CK88 (and previous DGX and P, not the very newest ones) have my favorite piano keys in its weight class. I prefer the CP/YC88 piano keys, but those keyboards weight about 20 lbs more. For context, I'm not a pianist. I'm a keyboard player, but I just happens to like these keys. I tried the CK61 and the YC61, and I prefer the piano style keys of the 88 models... but I'm not a "pianist", so, try them out yourself, if you can.
The way I like layering different sounds, and using fx on everything, the control panel is great for me. If someone's really into getting the best piano sound and feel, and cares about escapement and fuller resonance modeling, then I'd say check out the P-525. Or, for something more stage oriented, in between that and the CK88, check out the even more expensive CP88. Of course, both of those are heavier and pricier. For someone like me, CK88 is almost perfect.
I mean, a USB MIDI digital piano cant work directly with the Reface, even with the Reface's weird adapter. You still need a keyboard like the CK, which has DIN MIDI output (in addition to USB)
Thank you Jeremy See, I always enjoy watching and listening to you demonstrate keyboards and pianos.
Jeremy makes any keyboard sound so nice!😊. this does have great features, and so light-weight!
Then I buy it and sounds like crap😂😂
Hey, Jeremy. Nice to see a new video from you. I hope all is well with you and your family.
Big changes at work, on back on the midnight watch working overnight again after five years as I relocated to the bigger store, since my old store was closed down.
This is an incredible keyboard!!! I want one now, and will probably get it later, in addition to the Roland FP-E50. And I think this time, it will be all the keyboards I ever need, replacing the Roland RD 88 and V-Combo VR-09B.
Masataka Kono has reviewed and has been currently featuring this keyboard for a while on his current videos.
To me, my two 61 note keyboards are great for what they are at that price range, you know which ones, but I still wanted at least three of the 4 Reface series keyboards, but like Roland, the hit the ball out of the park to complete my wish list.
This is the best pro level 61 note keyboard, and is very affordable at $1000, and is the same price as the FP-E50. But at the price, you have a choice between the smaller, more portable format with battery power, or a full 88 note expandable stage pianos with incredible, innovative auto arranger functions. But both together are still affordable for the perfect two keyboard pro studio or gigging rig.
They are both a bargain, but realistically, if they were both sold at the price they are with, the CK61 should be at least $1500, and the FP-E50 should be at $2000. But we're glad they are not.
The FP-E50 will be great for my church keyboard with the CK61 a great second keyboard for more versatility, but also by perfect to tote and have at home with more limited space. The graphics, design, controls, sounds and features are excellent.
Things keep getting better, and with my pay raise, and planning to kick in my Social Security checks a few years early, I will have more accessibility to these keyboards and peripheral gear, including a ln iPad Mini and a loaded new Mac Mini Desktop computer later.
I agree that the CK61 should have a music holder, and a 73 key version for those that would want and could use it. A major reason I want the 88 keys.
I gotta go eat dinner and get ready for work, and may comment more later, but I think I mention most of what I wanted. Great review of this keyboard, as always.
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Always a pleasure to have you share your vast experience with us buddy. We live in exciting times. Loads keyboards for us to choose at competitive prices.
@@JeremySee You can't get much better for these two keyboards in the general use category, but who knows what's coming in the future?
Haha, I just started picking out colors of the wind a week ago. Great review as always.
The CK-61 has got my vote. Thanks!
Hello! I'm always watching your videos and I am planning to buy one soon. Nice keyboard!
me to. I have the reface CP I got for christmas, and I like it for what it does, but eversince I heard about the CK61, I wanted it. I just hope they have it at the music stors where I live in canada.
Wow!! Your voice is great! It’s the first time I’ve ever heard it. 😮
The CK61 would be a great unweighted compact lightweight battery powered keyboard used in combination with my Roland RD88.
wow, amazing performance! I know this video is about the product, but you've also got some serious skills on the keys!
looks great. wish it was red though.
I would really like to know more about the keyboard feel. Can I play precise classical on it or is it more a compromise of electric keyboards and organ?
Hello Jeremy and thanks for this wonderful review ! Just one question : is the onboard set of speakers sound booming or distorting anyhow , i mean during your tests did you notice any distortion or other annoying behaviour from the onboard speakers ?
This sounds perfect! The drawbacks are pluses to me. I already have 76, 88 weighted & 37 keys, so don’t need that. Just a simple light-weight versatile keyboard for playing with my rock band is fine. I don’t wanna pay for a workstation I’m never gonna use because I already have music production tools up the ying-yang.
Hey Jeremy, Love your Channel. I'm wondering if at some point you can take a look at the NUX-20 (the piano came out very recently)? It's an updated version of the NUX-10, and looks very promising. I can't decide between it and a Korg D1, I lean towards the D1, but there's just far too little information out there, and virtually no reviews regarding the quality of the action in the Nux-20. Thank you!
Jeremy, thanks so much for introducing me to this keyboard! It really does seem like (nearly) the best of all worlds, as a kind of Swiss Army Knife of stage boards. Can't wait to go get my hands on one and try it. I have been schlepping around a Korg SV1; love the sounds and key action, but it's HEAVY - and somewhat limited. Also a Hammond XK-1 for organ. Hmmm - maybe this board might replace both?? We'll see. Keep doing what you do!
A 76 key version would probably have sold me on this. It sounds great and looks fun to play.
I agree, it's essential to have this 61 key version, but a no brainer to have a 76 key version if this, maybe even instead if the 88 keys. Since I have two 61 key instruments, I would get the 76 if available.
Yes, I agree Beauc. This keyboard would be fantastic if only there were 76 keys.
YES! I even play a lot of classical piano and I can certainly live with 76 keys for portability!
There's probably not enough demand for a 76-key version.
Or we might see one introduced very late, like Juno-DS76 which came out many years after Juno-DS61 and 88 were released.
IKR ?! Why not...
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Does is support soft pedal like the s90-es does? Also for a midi controller it needs more knobs,fades and a few pads for drums. I love the sound of Yamaha pianos No I am not a keyboard or piano player. I think Toto for Yamaha Pianos.
Hi. Which portable keyboard with built in speakers has the most authentic, best grand piano sound? thanks for all the work you put in.
Really nice job on the review--you covered a lot of ground! Out of curiousity--what song is being played at 6:30 it's hauntingly beautful!
Hello, Jeremy! I would like to ask if how can you convert Styles that are in prs file into a sty file? Thank you so much.💙
Nice!!!! Will this Keyboard play midi files and audio files?
Jeromey i use a direct box from the headphone jack for recording and i have to say it brings the impedence to low so PSR E ,WK,CS any cheezy keyboards types as well to bring it to professional sound quality. Try it some time. Clean sound. Keyboard with speakers work in my studio
Pleasantly surprised to hear your cool voice in this demo.
This sounds like such a nice keyboard. Does it come with a music rest? If not, can it use a Yamaha music rest?
Stunning performance keybaord. The feel is amazing this is the best overall keyboard outside of a 4-5k Nord range.
Hey Jeremy, can you tell us about the Yamaha's brand-new I-300 , and also a comparison with e373 , i personally own a e373 , is it good to get a i300 or stay with e373
Excellent message Sir What is the price of the Yamaha CX 600 Cheers Best' Wishes 🌹 Ozzie
Sounds nice!
Question, how many layers can you put on each, lower & uper part, & how many of your own sounds can you edit & store in it, thanks Jery, 🕊️.
👍♥️ nice review
I'm quite impressed with this keyboard. I abandoned Yamaha long time ago but this is a great keyboard, no secuencer though
Very nice...how does this compare with the Yamaha DGX 670 (besides of course the CK cost much more)
I was about to go RE-BUY a Yamaha yc mini. Then I looked at the YC full size board but no speakers and no batteries. I mainly want organ. So would you say that this CK61 is the perfect balance at this point for organ, better then or should I say more playable then the mini 37 yc, yet with more features and playability?. IS THIS THE PERFECT organ keyboard for price and options.?. Thanks.
You are a wonderful Muscian !!! I loved it thank you.
Thank you for your kind words. ♥️
I just got my Yamaha CK61 today! I've been using Yamaha MM6, which I love, for about 10 years but it's slowly breaking down. I was thinking of getting Yamaha MX61, but I visited Guitar Center and tinkered with the CK61. It feels solid and polished, with nice sounds, so I decided to get it.
Sir, how good is Yamaha DGX 650 or newer version… pls advice…
great sound
Thinking of trading in my Roland FA-08 for the CK88. I think the Roland would be fine if I did more studio work, but I only play occasionally with other people, so I find the CK88 one-to-one control attractive. Any thoughts?
I was watching Yamaha and Casio keyboard videos lately, and it seems like Casio makes a home run with Casio CT-S1, and Yamaha makes a home run with Yamaha CK61.
(Of course they are not the same leage keyboards, but both keyboards took some suggestions from customers, which seems to turned out a nice move, beneficial for both Casio/Yamaha and their customers respectively.)
What a time to be alive, my wish list in this price range would be a Yamaha ck-88 for creativity, and a Casio PX-S6000(or 5000) for piano keys
What would you recommend. The dgx670 or the Kawai es120, and what’s the decider?
Love your videos, extremely informative. Could you compare the Yamaha DGX670 88-key Arranger Piano and the Yamaha CK61 61-key Stage Piano. I am at an impasse and need guidance.
Greetings from Mexico, I still have my PF 2000 and i like it very much, it was very interesting because i always trusted Yamaha´s technology.
I hear rhythms while your playing? what are you using for those?
Good review, but you have 3 links to 88 keyboards, so I don't know whcih one you recommend with the best action weighted keys.
Excellent presentation. I’ve been on the fence w this keyboard, as I already have the Casio Pxs-3000 and I have the reface cop and the red reface organ mini keyboard.
This will replace all your reface(s)! 😍
@@JeremySeeDefinitely something to think about. How are the speakers being underneath though?
Since the Yamaha CK88/61 models don't have a built-in arpeggiator, could you create an arpeggio effect in real time, while still using the voices on the Yamaha CK88/61, by adding an external device like a USB midi keyboard controller that has an arpeggiator function? Thanks! 🙂
Does this have a built in rhythm section like an arranger keyboard?
Does this have an arpeggiator? Thanks!
Arturia Keylab essential 61 midi keyboard is local brand or high brand.... which brand is better
Yamaha CK88 USB flash drive problem please help!!!
this is a great keyboard besides one thing that drives me absolutely crazy! i want to save my live set sounds to a usb flash drive because the 160 live sets are not enough for me. i tried to connect several usb flash drives but the keyboard doesn't recognize any of them. in the manual it says only "some usb flash drives may not work" but not which ones and what are the requirements for a usb flash drive to work. i cannot buy hundreds of usb flash drives and try them all!!! anyone can help me???
Roland rd2000 or Yamaha ck88 or cp88? I’m looking for heavy keys with rich acoustic piano pad strings and ep.
The feel is important and the quality of the sound.
Suggestions?
I noticed that the Akai MPC Key 61 was not a part of your selection, is there a reason why? Thank you.
Any recommendation what i need to buy -portable piano. I play in a small church (30-50). Many thanks.
So it or not possible to attach a separately purchased music rest to it at all?
Thanks for the great detailed review, Jeremy! And the excellent playing!
Do you know of ANY 61-key or 73-key,or other
This P121 but fewer sounds and configurability czcams.com/video/nurtlSZLha8/video.html
@@JeremySee Thanks, Jeremy!
Good to know there's actually one 73-key with weighted keys! But...
After listening to the CK in your most recent video, it's hard to get excited about the P-121 sounds. 😞
Indeed! That's what I explained at the end, there should have been a 73 keys weighted version.
Have a look for used Studiologic VMK161 (no internal sounds) or more recent Roland RD64.
I'm a guitarist and i'm learning piano to put more sensibility in my creation. I have buy studio one and now i'm searching a keyboard with hp to start in my musical compositions for listening and very good conectivity to go after in my computer to register. What models do you advise me to look for who coud be the goodest for me and wich i will keep for a very long time
Thank you Jeremy.
Great Song, Professor Jeremy! 🕺
Sir,is this keyboard is suitable for Indian styles and tones.
Can you review this keyboard "CASIO WK-6600 - KH29"?
Is Yamaha DGX 650 good keyboard?
To this date I believe nothing beats the Kawai MP7se, which truly is still just one of the best overall stage piano`s out there..
Its nice. Its also costs more than double than this and weighs 9kg more than a CK88. It fits nicely between the Yamaha CK and the absolute best (Nord Stage). For someone who wants improved sounds over the CK and is willing to pay for it it's a great option.
Since the ck 61 doesn't include styles, where did the auto accompanyment parts for some of the demos come from? I've been trying to find a reasonably priced keyboard from yamaha that has the higher quality sounds than the psr-e473, but can't find anything in that form factor. When I refer to higher quality sounds, I'm refering to non xglight sounds, such as the high quality drum kits, pianos, etc that are on dgx and psr s/sx series instruments.
I am a huge fan
Looks similar to Roland FA-06 except FA-06 also has Sequencer and Arpegiator, while Yamaha provides FM synth sounds (probably in PCM).