Rick Suddeth: USSR: Moscow 1989 Grocery Store
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- I'm not sure when this was filmed.. I visited Russia several time on productions. Coming from LA LA Land (USA) I was amazed by the condition of the country... The people are some of the most hard-working, industrious, talented you will ever find. But they are in a system where you're not rewarded for their hard work... I hope it's much better now!
Boris Yeltsin visited an American grocery store in 1989 as well. He said if the people back in Russia could see it, they would've overthrown the government for capitalism.
The store was the Randall's Grocery store on Eldorado Blvd in Clear Lake City, a suburb of Houston, My high school girlfriend was working the deli that day.
If Yeltsin had visited skid row in LA or downtown Gary he woulda felt differently.
@@youtubesketches110 It would've looked like just another Soviet Gulag to him.
Well, that was the kind of world they thought communism ould bring to them but in the end they got the opposite
2 million Russians immigrated to USA since 1991 after they saw American supermarket
Back in the late 80s, I had a Russian language teacher at the University of Georgia by the name of Dr. Popov, and he told us of how he cried the first time he visited an American grocery store. He had never seen so much food in his life.
@@user-yk2mz1ie9c quit your bullshit. I'm Russian. I experienced the same thing.
@@NikolaiSinkov Nikolai Sinkov This means that you and I lived in different countries. I lived in the Soviet Union, and you are in another state. There was no shortage of food in the USSR in the 80s, I was 20 years old then and I know about it firsthand. They chased for jeans, for women's cosmetics from Poland. Everyone wanted something imported. Now everything is there, "eat to get out", but everything is not the same, products with artificial additives, synthetic clothes, no natural fabrics and so on. Society was divided into rich and poor, human values have been lost. For me, the Soviet Union was the best time in my life. Если вы, русский - перевод на русском языке: Значит, мы с вами жили в разных странах. Я жила в Советском Союзе, а вы в другом государстве. Дефицита продуктов в СССР в 80-е гг не было, мне тогда было 20 лет и я не понаслышке знаю об этом. За джинсами гонялись, за женской косметикой из Польши. Всем чего-то хотелось импортного. Теперь все есть, "ешьте, чтоб повылазило", но все не то, продукты с искусственными добавками, одежда из синтетики, нет натуральных тканей и все прочее. Общество разделилось на бедных и богатых, утраченны человеческие ценности. Для меня Советский Союз был самым лучшим временм в моей жизни.
@@NikolaiSinkov Николай Синков! Я также не для вас пишу, а другим людям, чтобы не верили таким, как вы. Я счастлива, что родилась в СССР!!! Советский Союз - моя Родина!!! СССР - самая лучшая страна в мире!!! Запад признал СССР величайшей сверхдержавой. В Советском Союзе было: бесплатное обучение, медицина, давали бесплатное жилье, строились заводы, фабрики, ГЭС, Атомные станции, промышленность, сельское хозяйство, экономика - все было на высшем уровне!!! Сильная Армия!!! Всех Достижений СССР - не буду перечислять. / Nikolay Sinkov! I am also not writing for you, but for other people, so that people like you do not believe. I am happy that I was born in the USSR !!! The Soviet Union is my Motherland !!! The USSR is the best country in the world !!! The West recognized the USSR as the greatest superpower. In the Soviet Union there was: free education, medicine, free housing, factories, factories, hydroelectric power stations, nuclear power plants, industry, agriculture, economy were built - everything was at the highest level !!! Strong Army !!! I will not list all the Achievements of the USSR.
@@user-yk2mz1ie9c this video proves that what you claim is 100% bullshit
@@bigmedge bigmedge I am writing my truth because I lived in the USSR in those years, I was 20 years old and this is my life. I know about that time not from films and spy videos, but from my personal life. It is not for you to judge because of the hillock, about that time, you cannot see from there. We Soviet people remember well that happy time! You foreigners will never understand this. I think you are a Russian who fled abroad. Therefore, for you, the text is in English and in Russian. Я пишу свою правду, потому что жила в те годы в СССР, мне было 20 лет и это моя жизнь. Знаю о том времени не по фильмам и шпионским видео, а из своей личной жизни. Не вам судить из-за бугра, о том времени, оттуда не видно. Мы, Советские люди, хорошо помним, то счастливое время! Вам, иностранцам никогда этого не понять. Думаю, вы русский, сбежавший за границу. Поэтому для вас, текст на английском и на русском языках. На русском языке можно понятнее выразиться.
I knew about a dozen families of emigres from the FSU in the early 1990s. For at least their first year in the U.S.A., every trip to the supermarket was totally mind blowing for them. One guy literally cried (I think with both joy and regret for how he'd lived up until then) when he saw that we can buy strawberries in February. A lot of them gained some serious weight: "Look at all the flavors of ice cream! And only $2 a gallon! And I can buy pork chops every day of the week, and pay for my week's worth of groceries with what I earn in a few hours!" These were all well educated people who'd left professional positions, to move here and get minimum wage jobs to start over because of their poor English. One friend from St. Petersburg, Russia, who told me he had dreamed of one day owning a bicycle, was driving a nice car within three months of arriving here.
+Rona W
When my mother in law was finally allowed to visit us and to see her grandchildren first time in 1989 she burst into tears at the sight of American supermarket. Her first words were "what a shit we're living in back there"!
She never used such words before in her life!
i can only imagine how they felt...i hope they are doing great!!
That sums up communism..the biggest lie of the last 100 years..
That tells everything...how people were fooled by this system for 74 years?
Hey you fucking moron this is the footage about traitor yeltsins years.
How utterly depressing. I grew up in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. and my family never had money to speak of, but going to the grocery store was always fun. Grocery stores are bright and abundantly stocked with everything you can imagine. Even for a "poor family" like my own NEVER experienced ANYTHING even comparable to this. My heart goes out to these people. It's so sad, I don't even know what to say...
My family lived in the eastern block, they never had this problem, only with some luxury piece of meat, i think this was in 1991 when tanks were in the streets and the country was collapsing
theMETALDOVE Look at Venezuela, they have it pretty bad as well, that’s what happens with communism. I was in Russia in March and it was like a lot better, and the country was great economically. I’m amazed how far they come in just 29 years.
WRONG cause this is only another PROPAGANDA of west. This video is NOT under communism but under capitalism Eltsin times
@@hgjyhgyhfgyjghfhfgyhjf4917 cant tell if troll or just hardcore loyal communist
@@casparpolitman Washington DC did this to them. A vibrant country that while it had many issues, crushed by the introduction of neoliberalism
And this is central Moscow, which means this is among the best USSR had to offer, because going just outside the city or worse yet - to other republics, and this store would seem like the Garden of Eden in comparison.
This was also in the 80's, when they had their version of a depression. Look at their stores in the 70's. Still not much variety on the shelves, but way more goods than in this video.
Znajhistory . не совсем "центр" москвы!
@@Mechaghostman2 wait so you've seen that in the US ever? that's right no you haven't
@@drewf7673
7 million people died during the Great Depression due to starvation. Not because they couldn't find food, but because they couldn't afford food.
Also, comedians can cause toilet paper shortages.
ZnajHistory Yes, Moscow was a poor criminal city with people in the same gray clothes. It was the collapse of the USSR. But now, in 2020, Moscow is the best European city with fun, rich and educated people in colorful clothes and expensive shops. And then it was like a video. Moscow spent a lot of money on the restoration of monuments, museums and ALL streets (including the suburbs). What is on the video is the past. Moscow 2020 is a very beautiful city. This is a must see. On the Internet, see which Moscow is in 2020 and draw conclusions.
For the 1980s this video quality is like insane
Especially for Russia
Not insane when you consider that film has a very high resolution. 35mm film for example has a resolution equivalent of 4K video. And 35mm film has been around since 1889. We're just used to seeing poor quality videos from that era because lots of content was stored on VHS tape which offers much lower resolution than film, and degrades over time and with use.
Its filmed in the 1990s russia not soviet union.
@@tribinaaux4043 Idiot!
Pack of Cornflakes for 87 kopeks in 1990s RF???????
YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!!!!!!
That's because most of think shitty VHS camcorders when we think that far bad
Higher end film cameras like reporters and studios had access to that recorded on film were actually high quality enough to be the analogue equivalent of 4k and that's why so many old movies still look good in HD if they were transferred and mastered properly instead of just upscaling old SD versions from the DVDs.
This is what the _good_ grocery stores looked like. Those in provincial cities and towns were largely barren almost all the time
So how did you eat
@@leahflower9924 By growing there own food I guess? If it was actually legal, maybe hunting, but I think many prople went hungry....
I just remembered, I studied russian in high school and my teacher told us about how it was behind the Berlin Wall: the only meat he could afford was mysterious meatballs sold by shifty looking guys in dark alley in Moscow. He believes it was dog meat :(
@@kawaibakaneko and people still fight for communism/socialisn
@@leahflower9924black markets
@@leahflower9924 From what I've heard you need to stock your food for the times when they truly sell anything, because the items will come in huge bulk.
Also sadly, some places in Russia is truly this messed up. 6 millions of them don't even have indoor toilets, and in 2019 surveys 1 in 5 don't have indoor plumbings. That's 28-30 millions people who need to get out of their house/rented room to wash things, which means in rural area it can get up to half of them don't have indoor toilets.
Grocery shopping in USSR was HELL ON EARTH!
After full day of work you had to spent most of your free time standing in lanes. Most neighborhoods didn't have any Supermarkets until late 1980s. You had to go to a different store and stand in different lane for every item. Personal cars were rare. Amount of items you can buy in one trip was limited to how much you could carry in your hands in overcrowded public transportation. It was like having another hated full time job.....
The same in Poland and most of the Eastern Bloc countries, unfortunately.
@@kamilksiazek8019 Hell - even the UK in the 1970's was like that!
@@eddiewillers1 though I doubt if the UK had e.g. shortages of potatoes (something that occured around 1985 here) :D people were so pissed that once they complained to the then leader, gen. Jaruzelski during an official visit. Which was sort of an act of courage, because these visits were usually precisely staged to show that everything is under control.
I remember this. i was living there back in 1989-90. mostly empty stores..long line ups when there were items to purchase and they were using an abacus to tally the totals....I once stood in line for 2 hours to purchase a chunk of cheese. The first I ever found in 10 months time. I sure learned to appreciate home. We are spoiled here out west and take things for granted.
+lusciouslolo1
It was bad long before 1989-90.
First time I saw 100% EMPTY food store in 1976 in Rostov/Don.
Still under Brezhnev.
My wife stood in line for oranges for 2 and 1/2 hours in 1976.
In Moscow.
All thru the 1970s we had to spend half of our off work time running around the town.
"We are spoiled here out west and take things for granted." I'm replying to a four year old comment, but this is something that just can't be said enough.
@@ssmusic214 its terrible..I had such culture shock coming back home. Overwhelming excess. There needs to be more middle ground
Was russia stil under communist rule when this was shot??
@@hannahdavies7388 yes it was
I was there in Moscow in that time .This is a true actual video.i was among the people looking at empty shelves
me as well. Thats exactly what it was like at that time.
Yes but this is after Gorbachov's reforms that destabilized country.
This reminds me of the Halloween costumes of real people in real life situations like "Girl lost in cafeteria looking for a seat".
"Communist stairs at shelf wondering where all the food is"
@@jayk5764 That's funny cause in communism every company had cafeteria with free lunch and dinner every day.
@@V8_screw_electric_cars Yea and by calling it free they were able to lower their standards to barley eatable. See if you don't care for the customer, then you don't care for the product.
Plus nothing is free, rather than paying them a fair wage and giving them the freedom to eat what they want, they took their money and bought food with it. This is so the man is reliant on the man feeding him "don't buy the hand that feeds you."
A women in Moscow runs into a store out of breath and asks the shop keep "Is this store out of bread?" and the shop keep replies: "No miss this store is out of fish."
I have Cuban relatives, and they had family who still lived in Cuba visiting them in the US. Said the family member cried upon seeing an American supermarket for the first time. She also hadn't had chocolate in over 20 years. Woman was in her 80s. Kinda surprised she never tried to stay here. Many Cubans distrust more government control over things for this very reason.
I’m Cuban and what you said is true a lot of Cubans when they come to the us they are so surprised by grocery stores because if you want something like that in Cuba you either have to have relatives abroad or buy it on the black market when i first went back to Cuba as a kid the first thing I bought was chocolate for my aunt as it was her favorite thing and she hadn’t had it in years make me fell super lucky to live in the us
I do remember that time. I was like 5 or something. And with my grandma we went together to buy a cheese for kind of russian pizza. And we visited like 7 shops across the town, which has a population about 100.000 people and there were no cheese at all. NO CHEESE in a city, probably the in a whole country! When I recall that I could not believe in it now. How come? and yet I recall that we had a huge statue of Lenin, which is like 5 meters tall. And one day we passed by this statue with my mom and I stopped and came to the stature and started to talk with it like kind of pray or meditate all of sudden, it was just strange, you know. And I asked: dear grandfather Lenin pleas make it that we will have a cheese in a shop! and you wont believe me but the very next month things started to set up and cheese appeared in shops. And all this still tells me that Russia is a place where logic or common sense simply don't work. There is no way for it. I ve been in many countries across the world but only Russia is the one which surprises me always. You never know what to expect there and how to deal with it.
Lenin : Comrade, what is your wish ?
Dmitry Morozov : *Cheese*
From that day hence he became known as Dmitry Morozarella
@@emarley05 that's a nice wishes
@@boringNW not Morozallela, but Morozallevich
I'll pass on praying to some statue for food . I like it here where it's predictable and I do know how to handle it
I remember a comment of a Russian citizen talking about stores before and after the collapse of USSR...he said : before we had a lot of money but nothing or quasi nothing to buy...after the fall of USSR and its economy, we didn't have a lot of money but so many things to buy !
In the 70s and 80s, the Finnish Supermarket K-Kauppa broadcast advertisements on meat and how to prepare it. The Estonians, who were then part of the USSR, frequently touched on Finnish television and many thought that these advertisements were propaganda because they had never seen supermarkets like these before.
Спасибо за видео... вспомнилось детство, мне тогда было 6 лет... никто не поймет, а я помню что было и много хорошего, мне даже нравилось ходить с мамой в магазин, если товар "выкидывали" (так называлось когда привезли в магазинный зал людям еду) она нас с братом выпускала вперёд, в толпу, мы ныряли, и возвращались либо с весовым куском сыра, либо колбаски ..
Вы глупы. Если думаете что советские дети не понимали что взрослым было тяжело. Я высказывала именно ДЕТСКОЕ впечатление. И я вижу не только минусы но и плюсы. А вы читаете между строк что сами хотите увидеть. Сплошной субъективизм.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
...And a video is worth 5000
Yeah, I've seen a video if soviet markets before crisis and it was at the same level or even better than the west
@@diegovasquez7610
Present the evidence.
@@Mechaghostman2 There can't be any such evidence because it's total bullshit.
@@user-lz5wf A million.
well that was eye opening
+How To Make Sushi You mean the glasnost ?
+How To Make Sushi When there is no market economy and too much planning then you might have this.
@Awawawa CM This was filmed before the switch to a market economy but nice try.
This is the country that beat us to space... Think about this supermarket sometime and appreciate where you were born...
Johnny Blaze The endurance race. I have never been there but I would venture to guess that Russia, in places, isn't much improved. Corruption can and will destroy a society, Rome, Greece, A______......
+JCB Ah, just like it is destroying Rossiya now.
+JCB Yeah, I appreciate every day that I don't live in the USA.
Ivo Robuttnik Sure,tovarisch.
You know there aren't only two countries in the world, right? Someone can not be from the USA and still not be Russian.
Back in the late 1980s my primary school geography teacher hosted a family of Russian educators and the first time they went to a supermarket, mind you that this was here in Bum fuck nowhere USA during the hyperinflation years, it blew their minds. Their (the Russian's) kids had tagged along and these kids were absolutely delighted to be able to drink soda every day and eat whatever trash food they wanted. Once the time came for them to return to the Russian SFSR, these kids were literally devasted, crying in the airport as they were saying their goodbyes to my teacher and her family. Pure cultural victory.
They were luckily that in the 1980s Soviet union was going to collapse
This is an unusual urban grocery store that it very large. Atypical of what you would see in most of the country. Generally accurate. I visited the USSR in 1989 can attest to this first hand. Many see this video and are understandably surprises but I'm not surprised at all based on my personal observations so many years ago. Yes, it really was like this.
i grew up in soviet union and i had a very happy childhood, we always had enuf to eat, wasnt nearly as bad as people think ... ppl managed ...
my parents bear the exact same sentiments, growing up in communist Poland)
I met a Russian woman in the early 1990's that moved to Los Angeles after the collapse of the USSR to marry a rich husband. She was amazed at the fully stocked shelves of grocery stores, and loved shopping in the malls, yet had the audacity to say to the store clerks, "I hate capitalism". One of the most foolish persons I have known.
Yeah, a lot of people like that sadly
Wow. As a woman from Russia i say sorry. :)
In Soviet Russia, grocery stores empty you.
In Soviet union Food find you to eat
Ohhhh boy that communism sure looks so warm,bountiful, and inviting!
What do you mean that haven't reached communism? Shit, if this footage is truly
from the 90's then Communism there was on it's way out.
The point is the same for everyone and it could taste good after 5min in the microwave and its still beter this for free then nothing
JohnTheGreat7822 USSR was getting no where moron, black market was rampant and women were whores to western tourists. Stalin died, USSR died, simple as that.
JohnTheGreat7822 Gorbachev had nothing to do with stagnation, low birth rate and heroin epidemic that started after USSR entered to that shithole Afghanistan. Russia now has 60 million pensioners, when with smart policy it could have been even younger than USSR or China.
Tay Sachs " Stalin died, (the) USSR died... "
Very true!
That's too much food there. It's probably one of the better-to-do stores.
BoomBoom that might be but notice the way the meat was packaged, pretty poorly not to mention there was barely enough and the old babushka didn’t feel they were fit to be consumed.
it looks the same as in other republics at that time, just that moscow had more special items, like some unique candy or special products
@@abarzilai0334 Theres a longer vid of this I just watched, in it a younger women comes up, smells the meat, and says something like a disgusted "ugh..", then puts it down. It happens right before the two old women.
The expressions of the young woman at 3:10 are absolutely amazing., you can see flashes of her Russian soul... lived in Moscow many years... it is a classical Russian look )))
Edik Edik she actually looks so sophisticated to me :))
@aleksei_zubtsov spasiba bolshoi!
Noticed her look too. Very flat, like she's used to not reacting. But in a dignified way too. God bless her, I hope she enjoys freedom now.
It's sad to see those faces people are so demoralized their society is decaying
no one is demoralized (but grannies, the live 1.5 times men lifespan and always unhappy with everything, prices, pension, kids these days) neutral face expression is how people operate
they don't know better and the store has food and tiny lines, no reason to be demorolized
There is so much human potential in each one of them but they are prisoners of this system.
lmao just because they have permanent Russian resting bitch face doesn't mean they are all depressed. The 90's had much worse in store for the Russians.
If you read the history of Rus you will see how much trauma these people historically went through and survived! then you will understand the strength and resiliency and yes, the reason for the faces!
What a lovely day to go grocery shopping
just products have been healthy, with a very small period of storage, you can ask any - without preservatives and shops were forced to sell them very quickly. For example cream cakes - 12 hours. Milk - 2 days. Mayonnaise - 10 days. It was also allowed to trade small producers. And on the market any day you could buy meat and vegetables selected quality. Price on markets was a half times higher than in shops. State stores located next to the house and the people went into them half an hour before work, after work or during lunch. Public opinion allowed the women to come to work with a bag with products. Sometimes they are forbidden, sometimes approved, because it is believed that the wife care for their husbands Sometimes women can take time off for an hour and a half for a shopping trip. At the end was like the women's club. The authorities swore to them, often jokingly, but sometimes can and dismiss Catch the market had to go half hour or hour. The market usually went children, pensioners or at the weekend. Again, most of the products small period of storage because of the state of shops was not a competition and it was all natural
"6 бытулочек, пожалуйста" - такое ощущение, как будто мама обращается к большому начальнику, а не продавцу.
Похоже на обычную вежливость.
сразу видно россиянина
продавец мог говно подсунуть поэтому приходилось с предельной вежливостью обращаться
Вообще то я и сейчас так обращаюсь к продавцам. Или по Вашему нужно хамить, да? Были и тогда хамы, были, И сейчас их полно. Тешат явно завышенное ЧСВ при полном отсутствии воспитания. Но к счастью не все хамы.
Алекс СнобЭталонная вежливость обязана быть у продавца. Это он должен говорить пожалуйста и спасибо.
I reallly like watching that kind of videos. Please upload more.
I'm sure he would if he had a time machine....
Oh, boy, do I remember that time or what? Scary! I honestly do not understand those, who romanticise life in the USSR, and sadly, there are way too many people like that today, and not only the oblivious youth, but those, who suffered through those very times first hand.
please someone show this video to the millenials they think socialisn is a great idea .
You think? Every person I've heard talk about the USSR, who lived through it for a time, trashed it. Of course, these are English speakers so probably already in the USA, I know there's a large portion in Russia and the former states that would like to reunite, if not go back to totalitarianism.
@@jbtvt I am still in Russia. Although visited the US 15 time since the collapse of the evil empire.
1989- or when the USSR tried to convert to capitalism and collapsed.
maybe for those too young to only remember the USSR when it was in its transition to capitalism, not for those old enough to remember the USSR even only 4 years earlier.
A lot of the older folk like to reminisce about time before the USSR in Russia, at least through the stories of their grandparents. They didn't have anything. Even in 1989 (during soviet transition to capitalism, one of the worst crises of the USSR) everyone still had everything they needed.
The reason so many people wish to go back a lot of times isnt down to just nostalgia. I remember a quote that goes "Soviet nostalgia isn't the nostalgia of what once was, but the reminiscence of a lost future".
In ALL of the USSR, there was no practical homelessness (it was quite literally outlawed). Today's Russia is a retrocess.
I see a LOT of humiliation in their faces... sadness, confusion, sorrow. I have seen similar faces at funerals.
No just Russians.. Always been that way
Russiasvechenaya
They look humiliated. When I was in Portugal a few years ago, situation was similar, always lacking some goods, some shelves empty..... no prices posted, sad faces etc. perhaps they all were Russians living in Portugal, but stores, run by Russians in Portugal?
Unserstandable. Russia is and always has been a great country. And then in the Gorbachev era Russians had to queue for hours just to get the most basic necessities. Of course that was humiliating.
Yes, USA is a shithole in comparison to Russa.
***** Money doesn't buy happiness bro
Reminds me of when my 20th Century History teacher told us about how he visited the USSR not once but twice before it dissolved, once in the late 80s and once in either 1990 or 1991. On the second visit I believe they had just opened a Baskin Robbins in Moscow, and while the line for people paying with US dollars was pretty much nonexistent, the line for people paying in rubles extended halfway down the fucking block!
More people need to see this video. Communism is not some kind of utopia that many college professors make it out to be.
They'll just say its "not real socialism"
Karl Marx planned it out. And it failed.
@@wolfy1987 If someone will say This then say that:
Not real socialism: a large lack of Food
Real socialism: No food at all
I visited East Germany as an exchange student, at the end of 1990. As a teenager from the UK it had a very profound influence. Huge stores with 2 racks of clothes, endless isles with nothing on the shelves. Grand houses with damp and leaking roofs, opened as museums. Locals were great, offered cigs and booze for a few DM. That was East Germany, so I hate to think what rural Ruz is like.
And those people look so happy too ...
+Tommy Udo I bet you look like a sunshine when doing your own shopping.
+FinestSeven
Well, I don't look like death warmed over either.
Well the Union was collapsing.
it was fucking 1990, the Berlin wall was already fallen, they were in economic crisis and the mafia had just begin to take power. It's obvious they were not the happiest people on hearth you idiot. Have fun choosing how to poison yourself today at Walmart.
not one smile in the whole tape
We lived in the village, we had tons of food even while perestroika and collapse :))
we had bread, cows, pigs, potatoes, all kinds of veggies and non exotic fruits, eggs, milk, butter, sugar, chicken and so on :)))))
yes, in the country side people grew their own food, farming etc and they did seem to have more. As some one said above, distribution to the larger cities was a problem.
You guys must be really lucky to live on the Russian countryside, and not move to the Russian city.
Advantage of living near farms I guess
By that time the Soviet Union had began to collapse, no wonder there was a food shortage.
The USSR had food shortages for the most part throughout their entire history
Nathan Justus The USSR had a greater caloric intake per person than the USA for a long time. Do some proper research
Eating a tub of Crisco results in a higher caloric intake than a more normal balanced diet, but it doesn't make eating a tub of Crisco a better diet. Perhaps you should do more than just look at numbers no?
Dave Jachym Same for you mate? I guess your comment is a joke, well i hope
Dave Jachym The CIA declared the Soviet citizens had a more nutritious diet along with that caloric intake number lol fuck off.
Looks like the meat comes dry aged. Very convenient.
This is definitely later than 1986, closer to 1990. I'm judging purely by people's hair style and clothing, particularly younger ones. There was no such "horror" in grocery stores in Moscow in 1986 and I guess, this was filmed in Moscow.
What happened so much from '86 to '89 to make the economy go down so far? I've read that the decline in the price of oil greatly affected USSR's ability to buy the food/goods that they couldn't supply themselves. Military spending get too high? Centralized economic control failed?
@@joelwillems4081 nothing
there never was economy to speak of
if there ever was food on shelves it was pikcled rutabaga and other garbage from satellites
milk is produced on farms, half is stolen water added, then it is shipped to distrib and put onto paper triangle bags, then bags are shipped to store and leak 30-50% of content on the damn floor
before bags? after distrib milk is shipped to store, half is stolen, water added and that white water is put in bottles
anyone near chains of distribution always stole half
@@joelwillems4081 Probably the DECADES of rampant theft from anyone who had anything to provide for those who wouldn't.
Yes, the oil crash hurt, but such a blow to a country in capitalism wouldn't end up looking like this.
This is the long painful climb back out of socialism. They looked like this in the 70's too.
@@joelwillems4081 You've said it yourself. Centralized control didn't really fail, it was simply abolished in too many cases. Gorbachev's governement introduced many half-hearted economic reforms, de-facto reinstating market mechanisms in some parts of the economy. In 1988 they allowed so-called "cooperatives", essentially small free enterprises that started charging market prices for everything they sold. Soon thereafter, even state-planned producers started selling large parts of their production to the cooperatives to be resold for market prices instead of the low government-regulated prices. This way they could increase their profits, but the common people suffered because they were unable to afford these more expensive products.
Furthermore, the introduction of "Khozraschyot" during Perestroika allowed companies to manage themselves, choose their suppliers and clients and basically just ignore the Gosplan. This led to a massive disruption in the planned economy's supply chains. As you can imagine, if company B stops receiving special parts from company A, B cannot produce the things required by company C, which in turn is a supplier to company D, and so on. Production fell sharply but wages kept growing because of increased government spending, leading to inflation and unfavorable conditions for any kind of capital investment (even though the government had such programs aimed at increasing work efficiency). If the USSR had been a normal country, I believe that the crisis could have been over after maybe 5 or 10 years when the economy would have readjusted to market conditions, but since it was such a politically unstable system it collapsed way before that.
@@vaoline exactly!
well, this was during the end of the uddsr /socialism, and shift to capitalism. nothing worked probably anymore. i am from poland, i experienced similar conditions during that time. the decline of socialism started already in the early 1980s, with first signs of foot shortage and rationing
+cool cat
There ALWAYS were shortages of one thing or another in USSR. Even in in 50s and 60s.
First 100% empty store I saw in the spring 1976 in Rostov-on Don. Still under Brezhnev.
***** it is true that you never had all products available just in time for consumers. state-directed economy produced only as much as demand was available. it was a very static, inefficient system driven by a central authority. in addition, the lack of world trade resulted in a very slow and instable supply of ressources and materials. that’s why it took so long for the people in the german democratic republic to get a own car. but till the mid 80s i never witnessed a shortage of food.
cool cat
Problems in USSR were not only with distribution of goods services and materials. Entire production system was disaster.
In 60s-70s every harvest season was desperate attempt to save harvest rotting in the fields by mobilizing "volunteer" help from students, factory and office workers, and even scientists, engineers ....
It was like a play in the theater of absurd...
***** you are absolutely right. there was never a strong feeling for detail, quality and efficiency in economic processes in the soviet union. one of the reasons why the former soviet nations now struggle so much in international competition. i am absolutely sure, if the soviet union would be managed by strong, sustainable instititions, like those in the eu, it would survive for the next 70 years.
cool cat Possibly, but the EU probably would have abandoned communism for a blend of capitalism and socialism LONG before the Soviets did.
When you have the government in charge of every aspect of life you get this on a daily basis
This footage was filmed during the late 1980s when the Soviet Union was collapsing rapidly
Life was difficult even after the fall of the USSR but it was way way better during the 1960s and 1970s
@@newfireidk6065 Kudos to Khrushchev
Yet still some idiots would say capitalism is evil.
They still talk of the working masses living on the edge of poverty. Meanwhile, their greedy billionaire bosses make ALL the money. Yeah, I think we've all heard that one before. They never realize that the lowest of the low can work/develop/create their own prosperity. We've seen it so many times. But, if it keeps these detractors happy, let 'em be happy in their ignorance.
Looks like the beginning of Half-Life 2.
tbf half life looks like 1989 *insert any soviet city* since it was based off the aesthetic of soviet cities in the 80s
I lived in Moscow throughout 2013-2015 and there were honestly some days where grocery shopping felt a bit like this because of the EU sanctions. Especially in the more poorer residential areas as you move further away from the city centre.
regarding Moscow - it looks like 1990 but for the soviet regions - it can be true for the 1986. very realistic! i remember definitly the same picture in my mind...thank you!
Bruh, my México was "poor" during the 90s, but any small town convenience store was 50x better than this soviet market.
Здорово, вспомнил молодость! Но вроде это белее позднее время, чем 1986 год
Да это 1989 или 1990.
kign Почему вы так решили?
Ice Pink cybernatic-cat.livejournal.com/1437119.html
Ice Pink Женщина в кожаном плаще. Они появились позже, по крайней мере в начале 90-х., и стоили не дешево
Two Sovjet Russian are waiting in breadline. One asks other, 'Comrade, you work hard in factory today?' Other says "Yes, very."
The breadline runs out and neither gets food. End.
Being a cashier must have been a real nightmare.
епта, где они нашли такой супермаркет в ссср? В наших краях, в Вологде, такого не было отродясь, чтобы люди ходили с корзинками, а потом на одной кассе пробивали товар. Нужно было обойти все прилавки, у каждого выстоять очередь, если это после 16-00, показать пальцем на нужный товар, расплатиться на месте и потом только выйти. Единые кассы появились несколько позже, когда горбачев затеял хозрассчет и самоокупаемость, где-то в 1988, чтоли.
Москва как всегда жирует.
В 90 году у нас в Череповце в магазинах подобного "изобилия" не было. По талонам где -то 500 г. колбасы и пачку масла НА МЕСЯЦ! А в свободной продаже и неограниченно были хлеб, молочка, крупы и макаронные изделия в очень скудном ассортименте и, пожалуй - все. Нет! Можно было купить кур. Через год на прилавках остались только игрушки. Даже соль и спички были по талонам. Что интересно, мне по роду своей работы приходилось бывать на прод. складах. Они были забиты!
Позновательно.
Тоже удивился сильно. У нас в маленьком сибирском городке на 50 тыс. человек первый магазин такого типа появился только в 2007 или 2008, потом ещё один открыли той же сети и много лет новых таких не открывали.
В Москве в каждом районе такие были, помню смутно но тележки точно были с раскладывающейся задней стенкой для ребенка, и кондитерские изделия были в специальном отделе. Алкоголя вроде не было, зато стояли конусы с соками. Всему этому скромному, по нынешним меркам, изобилию пришел конец в 89-90 году. Наш районный универсам стоял закрытым до 97-98 года, когда там же открыли "седьмой континент"
Henoxyu Это скорее всего показательный, раз туда даже пустили иностранцев
Just amazing in what terrible conditions people back then had to live.
Now don't get me wrong, there are lots of places in Russia that remain awful and inhumane, but at least things got a bit better.
The worst thing Is that there are still people who support communism and Soviet union
I think this is the first video I have ever seen on Soviet grocery stores as they were. Quite shocking. I had read about defectors to the US being stunned by our grocery stores, and now I understand why. This is much worse than I had ever imagined.
To be honest everyone were shocked by american grocery stores (and still are today).
Wow. I should be more thankful that I can go to a store and have a choice to buy what ever I want without being afraid someone will be left out if I buy too much of something. Thank you America!!!
For a store without food it sure has a lot of shoppers.
That young girl in the checkout line at 3:10 brought forth a memory of an Orwell quote
"At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her-her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye. She had a round pale face, the usual exhausted face of the slum girl who is twenty-five and looks forty, thanks to miscarriages and drudgery; and it wore, for the second in which I saw it, the most desolate, hopeless expression I have ever-seen. It struck me then that we are mistaken when we say that ‘It isn’t the same for them as it would be for us,’ and that people bred in the slums can imagine nothing but the slums. For what I saw in her face was not the ignorant suffering of an animal. She knew well enough what was happening to her-understood as well as I did how dreadful a destiny it was to be kneeling there in the bitter cold, on the slimy stones of a slum backyard, poking a stick up a foul drain-pipe.”
― George Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier (1937)
This needs to be shown in all colleges where the SJW kids are screaming about the evils of capitalism.
By 1990 the USSR's economy was having troubles because they were letting Capitalism back in. During the 40s the USSR had amazing economic growth and became a world super power.
ACTUAAAALY THIS IS WASN'T REAAAL COMMUNISM!!
Nice thing about the evils of capitalism is that they arent as visible as this one...
Betcsbirds eh. You understand we do not want communism, no? We want to develop an entirely new system that can be managed with the current technology. Capitalism in its current form has to go whether we want to do it or not, it is simply outdated and has spiraled out of control. Our planet is being destroyed and the younger generations don’t have much want for a lot of things capitalism produces. We of course love that our grocery markets are filled to the brim with food and variety, and we love our hospitals and advances in technology, but we have not much use for stupid junk like sugary cereal, fast food, shitty televisions and cigarettes, etc. What is so wrong with refining our system? Would it not be nice to be able to live a fulfilling life again, rather than playing it so safe at the hands of of oligarchs? Should a true American really advocate a world like this one?
Harry Harper you can CHOOSE what not to buy. That’s the beauty of a free society. Capitalism has lifted more people in the world out of poverty than any other system ever.
В 1986 еда начала пропадать в Москве, мне тогда 8 лет было, я помню.
You were rewarded at least:
1. Freeware (i.e. free for citizen) medicine and education (from nursery to high school)
2. Freeware recreation centers (esp. for children)
3. Freeware children's clubs and libraries
4. The goverment present as gift the lodgement/apartment for the sitizen
5. Low cost transport,
6. Low cost prints (newspapers, journals, books. And you can receive it by post)
etc...
And this is late than 1990... There are plastic/pvc food/meat holders that we do not use in 80th as I remember...
и полная занятость: жена друга увольнялась в мае, приходила оформлялась обратно в сентябре
Алексей Курбатов
LOL!
"Полная занятость" сущшствовала ещё при рабовладельческом строе.
Truth be told, USSR was already on the verge of economic collapse by 1990, assuming this is the year it was filmed, so it would at least partially account for the miserable condition shown.
Another thing, the place gives me the impression it was repurposed from another business, which only adds to the miserable look: space is too big between aisles, marble flooring, etc...
Years ago people came from behind the "Iron Curtain" and many were so overwhelmed by the abundance of choices in stores and supermarkets that they left America and went home.
My mother in law (RIP) came to visit us 1st time in 1989. She started crying when she first saw ordinary US supermarket.
I can understand that. Change can be hard, even positive change
This is Gorbachev`s USSR.There are grocery store videos from 1970 s Brejnev era.Look it up!
this is pretty similar to Sibiu where i live back during communist Ceausescu's rule, search youtube Sibiu - 18 august 1989 and you'll find it
If I had came here back then, I would've assumed they were going through a devastating shortage.
They might've been. Not that things were much better when the USSR was doing good. However this was during the collapse of the USSR.
I think they can be proud that they kept the stores at least somewhat stocked and their country collapsed.
Шикарное качество видеосъёмки для 1989 года. Словно сейчас снято
Да, и аналог способен на качественное изображение, но только профессиональный.
I cannot substantiate this but I heard of an interview with a former CNN cameraman who claimed that his producer and he drove all over Moscow one day in search of a market that was low on goods. Somebody at CNN Headquareters had supposedly told them to send some tape/film of such a store to use as part of a story.
The cameraman claimed it DID take them much of the day because most of the markets were stocked okay.
Where "journalism" is concerned, I never know what to believe, any more.
There was no "private" or "different brand" stores in Moscow USSR. They all were controlled and supplied and stocked from the SAME place. Theoretically some could run out of goods before the others. But it there is no way it would take "much of the day" to find empty store. I even found 100% empty store (nothing on the shelves - zero! zilch! nada!) back in 1976 in "good" Brezhnev times in Rostov. Long before Gorby's "perestroika"
lmao you believe those russian lies? you think they queued for rotten meat for fun? :)
Bernie fans will love this!
Sebastian Brinkmann you’re an idiot
when you don't know what social democracy is
This is hilarious. Makes me realize living in the US is like playing a game on ultra easy peaceful mode. It becomes so easy its boring
This was not in 1986. This was only for a couple of years in the early 90's, right after the collapse of the USSR.
This was during the ussr
At 2.05 people are buying Bulgarian tomato ketchup with apples. Delicious, now in the store 25 varieties of ketchup long-term storage , but this prescription unfortunately not. Then we see in large containers napkins, and it seems salt, flour,Rear left - bread for tea "challengers". round, челночки There in packs baby food.
Последний наш год в СССР. 7 ноября покинули просторы Союза.
Репатриировались в Израиль. Жаль загубленную богатейшую страну с огромным человеческим потенциалом.
wow some of the comments are rude, man - most of these people simply didnt have a lot to choose from.. lucky if they found whatever it was they were looking for
This video made my eyes watery. Poor families suffering T.T
These weren't poor people in the USSR. Everyone was like this.
@@nathanjustus6659everyone was just poor
(Except the Leaders and the high rank people in the government of Soviet union)
At the checkout . asking a girl to get her almost ready potato patties (41 kopecks) (delicious affirm). Grandma says that the then transport is not enough .Grandma buys a round sugared bread for tea 20 bags*44 kopecks and pays for it's 8 roubles, 80 kopecks
Feel bad for these, especially the old people, how shit it must have felt to live out the last of your years like this
They used to say that the only thing which was always available in the USSR was lard. For women the biggest problems were getting enough to eat and losing weight.
Back to the good ol' days.
thanks Gorbatschow and Yeltsin.
Hillary 2016; bread lines we can believe in.
What are you talking about?
There wouldn't be bread lines. That's being too kind.
There may be lines for protein bars made of processed insects...
Do you just repeat like a parrot or do you give information to back up opinions?
***** I'd rather have beans and rice ... or is that rice and beans?
Mwahahahahahaha The Great and Powerful Stixhexenhammer666 Keep up the good stuff man i watch you quite often.
@@Lorespade The guy is a joke he got demolished by Jay Dyer
The late 80s for people in the USSR was tough because of Gorbachev
At least he brought Perostoika and Glasnost.
@@jacobtennyson9213 he literally illegally disbanded the USSR
@@purhepechatumbi3915 .. Because of corruption with the old guard of the central committee.
3:12 damn she is so pretty
Funky is watching economic depression videos from the 80's like "Damn girl whats your number?"
Снимали на Проспекте Мира, метро Алексеевская, тогда ещё Щербаковская. Универмаг был там где сейчас М-Видео.
What terrible packing they have there.. I won't even want to touch, let alone buy them. The USSR spent so much of their GDP on arms race with the United States and let nothing, almost nothing on the those shelves in the supermarket.
Great footage!
If this was in the capital city, I'd hate to see the stores in rural Siberia. And we complain about "food deserts."
3:12 I'm in love
At approximately the 3:45 mark you'll see the most organized queue you'll ever see in Russia.
Russia about to return to this by the looks of things.
Oh, that hurt to read.
From the Chicago Tribune on Sept 13, 2023, state run grocery stores will soon be coming to a store near Chicago. "“The city of Chicago is reimagining the role government can play in our lives by exploring a public option for grocery stores via a municipally owned grocery store and market,” said Pawar, senior adviser at Economic Security Project. “Not dissimilar from the way a library or the postal service operates, a public option offers economic choice and power to communities.” IOW, Chicago is looking to taking away economic and personal choice and eliminating the buying power of the people. When has government EVER done anything better than the free market? (And crony capitalism, btw, is not the free market.)
Да это же проспект Мира 91к1, я жил в к2)))
По по крайней мере адресный план, а нутро от другого магазина вроде, в этом был универмаг после сгоревшего хозяйственного.
А сейчас где живете?
kign
В Орехово-Борисово Северное(((
Владислав(Lilitt) Хм....
kign
И всё?)))
*****
Я там рос с 8 месяцев до 27 лет.)
This was the reality not only there.
Куриные биточки 3:56 - вкус не помню, но помню что нравились.
Там же в корзине бутылки с болгарским кетчупом.
Может заодно вспомните, в каком году они появились? Есть мнение, что в 86-м их ещё не было.
Gradomyr Да это как минимум апрель 1989-го
Bernie Sanders dreams of the day that Americans must live like this. "Bread lines are a good thing!" - Actual Bernie quote.
Who the fck is Sanders? Trump, Clinton, Sanders seems to be same sheet.
I don't understand the negative commentary here. I'm very envious of these people. Hopefully socialism comes to the United States as soon as possible.
+TheAlmacias
LOL!
So US will also have to lock up all the borders to prevent it's citizens from fleeing abroad. And to shoot the ones trying.........
Oh dear, this reminds me, a Russian colleague I worked with told me about standing in line for hours and when it was your turn, the item you wanted was no longer available, that was back in 2002. But what this video also reminds me of is the year 1969 when my class visited the then German Democratic Republic, where shops really looked very similar and for example in a flower shop there were about 3 bunches of flowers.. we were utterly amazed and being kids we made kind of fun of what we saw...but the people there were very earnest and i guess they thought us arrogant Wessies..
Reminds of of Texas. People are so poor there they cant go out, but all the businesses are set up to look real from the outside, but they all launder money. Famous examples, Dallas Chicken, Their menu only showed cheese or pepperoni pizza, and an open sign in the window that never shut off
Мне жаль некоторых американцев, они даже не понимают, в какой идеологической тюрьме они живут.
Much of these people was born before WWII. They remember all that shit, lost many family members. Years after they got shit. Never been anywhere, never felt what real life is. All they got is piece of meat if they are lucky after few hours in queue. Terrible times. Remind yourself this video every time you complain about your life.
This is how russia will be soon again