TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on the GOLDEN DISK
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- Watched the "Kingdom" cartoon on Netflix recently? Wondering what's up with the mysterious Golden Disk that holds the secrets of the future? Time to learn The Basics!
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Round of applause to this man who managed to get 9 minutes of content from a yellow circle that only appeared four times.
There are now more than 4 different versions of the disk across the various Transformers continuities.
The "yellow circle" is an actual object, so I'd say that there's enough information about it to fill up time.
You leave Scrounge out of this!
@@TheRealHiboman HAHAHHAHA
He didn't even mention how it proves we know the pythagorean theorem, or the location of the nearest pulsar. There's a lot on that disk.
When you think abt it, the entirety of Beast Wars happened because G1 Megatron somehow came across a human probe that was launched in the 70s, and for some reason chose *that* to record his all-important message for his descendants
My guess was always that, after learning of the probe on Earth in the 80's, Megatron sought it out in secret during the Great War. Finding the Voyager probe and encoding the secret message. As he says in the recording, he knew the tech for time travel was in development. Also that if the Autobots won, they likely wouldn't massacre the entire Decepticon race. It was a calculated gamble.
I think the reason why Megs choose the voyager space craft was because he wanted to make sure the Autobots wouldn't find the message even by accident so he choose the most inconspiquious place to hide it
It's as BW Megatron said, he was covering his bets. It's out there but Megatron's logic checks out, not only is it in a place the Autobots would never look, but it was attached to a human device and since he knew the Autobots respected humanity and would never mess with a human probe.
Did you just abbreviate the word "about"? Are you effing kidding? Seriously?
@@bloodguts6786 People type "Abt" all the time wdym
The real question is…
Was the Golden Disk ever taken offline by a cosmically powered Starscr-
Hahaha!
It wasn't, but the Voyager was.
take a shot
No. It was an Energon Overloaded Dinobot...
Looks like he was off-lined mid-sentence by a cosmically powered Starscream.
You know what? Beast Wars holds up. It's storyboarded and shot in such a way that it's still interesting and holds your attention.
100%. Sure, the computer animation is heckin' dated, but the *artistry* is still top notch. The staging, the characters' physical "acting," facial expressions and body language, it really keeps it watchable.
Even though the animation aged like milk, the storylines and characters aged like a fine wine.
@@MarvelandDC379 That's been my main stumbling block on picking up Beast Wars after all these years, never watched the original run. Maybe I should give it a shot.
@@HerohammerStudios agreed, its not all about visual streamlining, its animated well unlike the Prime wars in that AWFUL framerate
@@HerohammerStudios what about Prime though?
I don't know if you have already, but I think it'd be neat to see an episode on the various alien races that have appeared in Transformers, besides the humans or the Cybertronians themselves. Vok, Nebulons, D-Void, those Giants from the episode where everyone is trapped in a doll house.
THAT would be an interesting episode. I'll second.
Good suggestion!
Great idea 💯👍
@Zutto Aragi
"hose Giants from the episode where everyone is trapped in a doll house."
@@DemonicRemption Transformers Generation 1, the episode Child's Play. They're accosted by a Kaiju sized child.
I just got The Ark figure a couple days ago and since it comes with the golden disks this is perfect timing since I’ve always wanted to know more about them.
I am jealous I have collected almost every figure except the few very large titan class figures 😅
Where did you buy it from? Im in the US btw if that makes a difference
Dude where did you find it?! Lol! I'm trying to hunt it down!!!!
I have it too, sadly the ratchet joint of its right shoulder stripped
@@eeftankian that sucks 🤯I wish they had some sort of parts shop for figures like this because I would even like to know the proper paint they use so I could touch up my own figures imperfections
See, I guessed the disks were modelled after the voyager probe ones, I wasn’t expecting them to be the actual voyager probe ones!
Beast Wars introduced the Golden Disk (sic) and I immediately spotted what it was, which has made me speculate for years: when did the Cybertronians find one of the Voyager probes? If they deciphered the guide, they’d have sufficient information to locate Earth. Were Skyfire and Starscream directed to find the planet? Their trip was never followed up, but the space bridge in the first G1 episode bought The Ark and Nemesis close to Earth, possibly because Starscream reported on the abundance of energon (that’d explain Skyfire’s crash better than ‘tornado’). Did IDW Shockwave use the disc information to choose Earth as a place to seed energon, because he’d seen it there, creating another paradox. Was the disc the reason why Earth saw more Cybertronian traffic than, say, Nebulos?
One small artefact could be the reason behind a lot of stuffs in our favourite franchise and my head hurts!
Wow, this activates my old man subroutine. I have to remind myself not everyone knows about Voyager. In the 90's, they were very big as each one visited the outer planets giving us detailed views of Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus (insert jokes here). It was comparable in excitement to how everyone got with the various Mars rovers.
I imagined Megs tampered with the disks after launch, during S2 when Transformers had access to space via Omega Supreme and Cosmos, Astrotrain and Blast Off.
"It allowed me to recruit a crew, and gave potential for power. But the real reason was this. The Golden Disk was launched from Earth aboard the Voyager Spacecraft just as the secret war between the Autobots and Decepticons began. The original Megatron - your commander had every intention of winning. But like myself, he covered his bets. He inscribed a secret message into the Golden Disk. A message which I myself discovered and decoded."
-BW Megatron
Megatron 2 was a bit out. The probes being launched in 1977 and G1 first airing on 17 September 1984!
@@clogs4956well, Megatron had his own Golden Disk obviously.
@@clogs4956 I suspect G1 Megatron sought out the Voyager probe in space, and secretly recorded his message out there.
"I am expected to believe you? You said yourself the Disk was destroyed."
@@GoGojiraGo Ah, yes. But a fragment remains.
In Transformers Animated, the Voyager Disk is referenced during the first meeting of all of the major Decepticons, where Blotz (Blitzwing's insane personality) started obnoxiously singing "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" to Blackarachnia, fueling a fight among everyone that Megatron swiftly ended with his appearance.
The song itself is on the Voyager Disk, so the Decepticons would have had to have found it to even know of the song.
Beast wars is so good. The fact the creators started the show with little transformers knowledge and by the end created some long lasting lore/artifacts is awesome.
Fr tho props to them for thier creativity
@Gregory Lieber
I wanna see if I read that right. Beast Wars' creators started with LITTLE knowledge about the Transformers franchise?
Because like you said this series gave us artifacts and lore that was used in later installments of Transformers going forward.
Because of this series we got Cybertronian proto-forms, the life-force of all cybertronians, because the radiation of Unicron's exploding corpse we got Trans-Metals.
And that's the stuff I can name off the top of my head. And you're telling THAT came from people who started Beast Wars with little Transformers knowledge...?
@@DemonicRemption yeah they said that on the DVD commentary. As the show went on they learned more about existing lore and made an effort to connect the new stuff they introduced back into the old stuff. That's why I think it's so cool and probably why most of the New stuff stuck. Basically they didn't start as historians but by shows end they got a cybertronian PhD lol
The golden disk truly contains golden mysterious things we never known until we have it
I always drew my own conclusion that there was a connection between the Voyager missions and the Golden Disk but I never knew it was supposed to be the actual Voyager Golden Record. In the real world, it is our message in a bottle into the vast, ever expanding, ocean of space. A testament to humanity having ever existed on this planet. It's real world purpose is just as important as it is in the world of The Transformers. Maybe there should be a Basics episode dedicated to real world events that inspired or changed the story of the Transformers. You've touched on a few in past episodes.
Though the "Sounds of Earth" portion of the Voyager Golden Record contains greetings spoken in 55 of Earth's languages, none of these greetings is the "universal greeting - Ba weep granna weep ninny bong."
I was just a child when I watched Beast war from the beginning until the end. I never realized how deep the lore and the plot is. I just thought that animation and the graphics (at the time) was so amazing!
Fun fact: The music0side of the Golden Disk seen in Kingdom reads "The Music of Earth" in Cybertronian.
Yeah no shit
Coincidentally, in He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, Skeletor had his Golden Disks (the Golden Disks of Knowledge)... Perhaps if there was ever an official Transformer/He-Man crossover (it be cool if this was made and you & Spector Creative did a collaborative video on it), maybe a connection could somehow be made? Also, incidentally, In 'He-Man and She-Ra: A Christmas Special', She-Ra & Swiftwind get trapped in a cage and encounter a race of transforming robots called Monstroids and Swiftwind says to She-ra "Look they're transforming... such evil robots!" which I found was a bit funny, I think if I remember correctly, there's a scene in the 80s Transformers cartoon where a group of Autobots were mistaken for villains or something due to a misunderstanding and were accused of being evil and one of the Autobots (I think it was Cup) grumpily responds with the line "Who are you calling evil..!". If this scene did take place as I remember (I'm not quite sure if it did), perhaps someone could do a funny video edit so it seems that the Autobot is responding to Swiftwind, lol.
One of the Golden Disks arriving on Cybertron and the other on Eternia would be pretty cool for a crossover.
Alright, I'm gonna say it. Beast Wars looks like the kind of animation you'd see on the bowling alley scoreboard TV
It has aged badly but the show is still great.
You are not wrong, but it was a great bowling alley cartoon come on you get a spare and Optimus says "that's just prime!" Or you hit that strike and you get a Megatron say "YESSS" if you hit nothing maybe rattrap sneaking around a trash can or waspantor getting squished?!?
Imagine the beast war crew bowling!!!
@@EireHammer
If you hit nothing Rattrap appears on screen and cries "Oh, for bootin' up cold!" and kicks the floor.
“Beast wars doesnt look great, water also wet, more stone cold takes at 8”
Beast wars is in desperate need of a re-released remastered version with all the bells & whistles of HD and ultra 4K I just don't know why Hasbro hasn't done it by now
"V'Ger must evolve. Its knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve. What it requires of its god, doctor, is the answer to its question, 'Is there nothing more'?"
Star Trek: Voyager?
McCoy:What more is there than the universe Spock?
@@labroskouris9071 no its one of the movies
@@labroskouris9071 BOO! Star Trek: The Motion Picture, aka: The Motionless Picture or Spockalypse Now.
Anyone here also believe that Star Trek and Transformers might take place in the same universe and/or multiverse?
This Disk as always been treated as a Mysterious Relic! Great episode! Thanks Chris!
Just had my second vaccination and I come home to a new Transformers: The Basics episode concerning lore from my favourite TF series. A good start to the day indeed.
I had no idea the golden disc really existed as an artifact on both of NASA's Voyager probes.
Well, now you know X3
@@VJK102 LOL :D ha ha ha
@@VJK102 And knowing is half the battle...
@@Catking076 Nope, they thought the most important aspect of the Voyager probes was that we beat the Russians to visiting the other planets in the solar system first. LOL
Dummy
You know what I find really funny. Regarding the Bayformers movies, for all their retreading of macguffins and ancient history, they never utilised the actual Golden Disc in any of the films.
I actually always loved how they did this megatron where he is careful and smart he originally wanted to use the disc to get energon because he didn't know if he would never exsists if optimus never wins then he just wanted to change minor things in their war so then the decpticons would have an advantage he was always 3 steps ahead of the maximals.
Maximals and Predacons couldn't even stand being next to raw energon to long or they would die so how the hell was Megatron going to use energon to take over Cybertron😂😂😂
The basics on Thrust or Terrorsaur would be great episodes. Just a suggestion. I only know Thrust from Transformers armada.
This was an awesome video. I really like that you included megatrons schemes with energon and vok machines.
4:37 You can literally see where the disk says "The sounds of Earth" like the real thing.
I would LOVE a full size 3D printed golden disk. And I had no clue the Kingdom cards came in 3 random fates. That's clever
Now you have to do The Basics on the Vok!
I hope the next one will be Mirage. It’d also be cool to do the Stunticons, the Protectobots, or Jhiaxus, Deathsaurus, Breakdown, and Silverbolt.
ty for the video, was very interested in this relic sence i was a fan of the original beast wars show growing up, and honestly loved the connection starscream made in kingdom to unicron. honestly just blows my mind still BW megs still wanted to go though with his plan. did he even know of unicorn, i could image once Unicron learned of the matrix's death with optimus he'll come running like if a dinner bell was rung. Plus youd think Ravage would Take that into consideration too before allying with him sence he was there with soundwave
"Huh, a golden disk. Can't be THAT important. Imma melt it down and sell the gold."
Great episode! I had forgotten about the real world origins of the disk. I actually 3d printed one for my Kingdom Dinobot to hold too!
lol I didn't even notice it was the Voyager disc when I first watched Beast Wars. It even has "The Sounds of Earth" on it. :O
You forgot the Golden Disk’s greatest ability
It has Chuck Berry’s ‘Johnny B Goode’ on it
Famously associated with another time travel incident from an 80s franchise.
@@AlRoderick Chuck Berry may just be the nexus point of time and space...
That or it’s an incredible coincidence?
It always seemed odd to me that the many of the Autobots and Decepticons are “millions of years old,” yet just “300 years later,” all the G1 bots are dead and gone on Cybertron.
Not dead, upgraded.
Some may die, sure... But most of 'em probably had their legal documentation changed
Beast Wars is NOT a continuation of The Transformers cartoon. The writers even said it plus Beast Wars uses elements from the Original Transformers show and comics together while adding their own🤓
@@jeremytung1632 We don't know for a fact what happened to them all. Beast Wars isn't a DIRECT sequel to The original Transformers anyways🤓
@@vinniehatcher664 No one knows for sure.
Absolutely didn't expect this one but as usual thoroughly enjoyed the episode!
Thank you for doing this video. When I originally watched the Beast Wars series, I was so confused about the golden disk and the difference between the one Megatron had and the one that came from the Vox. However, the storyline of Megatron trying to destroy Optimus Prime back on the Arc was awesome!
I only now noticed one thing - if the allspark left the Cybertron in that future where Maximals and Predacons came from, how were they created if Cybertron couldn't produce new life without the allspark?
Life finds a way
Do a full list of every Transformer taken offline by a Cosmically Powered Starscream.
in my fanfic-verse, the message BW Megatron found on the disk was a forged message planted by the Quintessons around the G1 era (maybe around Season 3 or beyond), after their big push to have the Decepticons defeat the autobots in FFOD failed. There's a number of ways they could have gotten their tentacles on it, from actually finding it themselves, to buying it from a Scuxxoid trader, then allowing the disk to be acquired by the Transformers. G1 Megs already had technology to go back to the past (Chronosphere, from War Dawn, which he had plenty of time to get Shockwave to make another one of). The Quintessons knew that if the Autobots were defeated (having admitted as such in FFOD), it would be easy for them to eliminate the Decepticons. The Quintessons' own time travel technology was rather unstable (Time Window from Forever is a Long Time Coming), but planted the message so a future Decepticon/Predacon/Whatever with access to better time travel tech than they had, would eventually change things in their favor. After all, far be it from the Quintessons to do their own dirty work, amirite?
Great video as always, I think it's great that the golden disk had such an expansive history both during and post Beast Wars.
This is something I never understood the golden disk until now.
Wow I did not know that the Golden Disk concept was based off the 1977 Space voyager
I love that this talks about the real world discs. I always associates it with that.
A couple years ago I started to watch beast wars just coz why not, and thought it was kinda lame at first but man I absolutely love it now. It holds so much potential!
another good video as per usual
the golden disk/sounds of earth was always a cool thing in the transformers series ngl
Another awesome video Chris!
Keep it up! Your doing an amazing job!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I didn't know that there was another disc! This video has been pretty interesting
A excellent review. I did like the more insite on the Golden disks.
The Golden disk is my favorite artifact of Transformers.
Holy Cow! I never realized that the Golden Disks were mentioning actual Golden Disks from NASA.
My son would love for you to do a basics video on Skytread in the future please! Thanks. Keep up the good work!
Ooo, originally I wasn't going to read the IDW BW comic, but I might just take a gander at it now :3
I've always loved that the Voyager discs were used like that in the Transformers universe, further tying Earth and Cybertron together.
If you paused Beast Wars in certain scenes with the disk, you could actually see were they had those engraved greetings and instructions printed on, which was a nice touch by the animators.
In the War for Cybertron Anime, by contrast, there was "text" on the disk, sure, but you couldn't read it. I think it was intended to present the disk to us how they, the transformers, see human language through their eyes before they became fluent in it. Also a nice touch if you ask me.
My personal head canon is that the Vok are a species that move through time the same way we move through space. They came across the other Golden Disk and traveled to Earth to meet the beings who made it on to find they arrived to early. Not wanting to travel a few millions years they decided to try and speed up human evolution by constructing all those different locations that the Maximals and Predicons came across as a way to test those who happened upon them. That's why they were made to look like ancient ruins from human history so that the humans would have an easy time passing their test proving that they were the ones who sent the Golden Disk.
I love you timing of this video as my Autobot Ark figure just arrived
I love this channel!
Honestly, best character in the entire franchise.
now there's a golden disc included with the kingdom terrorsaur, but its the sounds of earth on one side and vok symbols on the other. There was also a really well made pair of diecast ones on ebay wich look absolutely stunning.
Great vid
One of my favorite bits of lore from Beast Wars
Good work
Basics on the Stunticons or Technobots?
Yes
8:13 so that’s what the stickers are for🤯 Woah that blew my mind. Thanks G I thought they were just an accessory,
Boy was I wrong😵💫
I think the Golden Disk is also used to store "robot adult films"
I recently bought a pair of gold coins off tfsafari that are done up to look like the Voyager and Vok discs. They're awesome.
I'm not surprised when I looked up the golden disk to see what it looked like, a frame from the Beast Wars show showed up!
This was an Incredible Masterpiece for The Golden disk. Beast Wars Explained The Golden Disk like it was a History Lesson. But War For Cybertron Trilogy explained The Golden Disk like a Stereotypical Expansion.
I like the story of the golden disc!!👍😎
Thanks! I like how Hasbro took the idea using the NASA Apollo’s version of the disc to connect with the transformers universe!! Fantastic video 👍👍😎
NASA - why are disc time traveling transformers bro?
awesome video
Bumblebee breaking the disk in Kingdom came off as more "care about what you have to say"
I did enjoy the IDW twist. Its different to what we've had previously, but at the same time familiar enough
Great video.
Finally I can understand the secret of the golden disk!
I always found the golden disk so interesting
8:48
It's moments like this that I am overall sadden that IDW lost their rights to Transformers.
We will never know now.
Indeed
Can you do a future video on the Vock, I would really like to know more about them?
I can confirm that not all the kingdom figures have the card. T-Wrecks did not come with one but I’m guessing that’s because he’s a recolor or something.
Either way, been waiting for this episode after seeing the one on Teletraan 1 and Vector Sigma.
Since you're about to release Trypticon, are you planning on doing Metroplex as well? Love the videos!
I need to rewatch beast wars, it's my nostalgic favourite transformers show
Because the Great War’s time on earth wasn’t on prehistoric earth apart from the crash
I love the Golden disc 💞💘🧡💕💜💙💛🤎❤️😍💗💚❣️🥰💝💖
The Golden Disk storyline from Beast Wars is one of the best in the whole mythos....
I would like an episode on all the Rampages
i didn't even know transformers Kingdom existed until now. gotta go check that out i guess.
As someone who watch beast wars as a kid i'll be honest, WFC trilogy are literally the first time i found out about the golden disk. I thought i was an og element for WFC trilogy.
don't know if you've done one one the Vok yet, but that would be very cool. So little was known about them
They're absolutely on the list, their origins got expanded on recently in Japanese media! Just waiting to see how the new Beast Wars comic plays out a little more, see what they do with them there.
I had thought that the 2007 IDEA BW series had something to do w the disk. I need to read it again
One thing that caught my attention when thinking retrospectively on the Beast Wars, was that the Beast era Megatron's plan to change history by ending the Autobot/Decepticon conflict before it's phase on Earth could begin in his ancestors favor, would leave the Decepticon's and Cybertron as a whole at the mercy of Unicron and the Quintesons. In other words, G1 Megatron and Beast era Megatron would have caused a delayed singularity that would have rendered all Transformers extinct because of the former's own hubris and the latter's arrogance. In episode 39 (s2 episode 13), the quantum storm would have likely erased the not just the Maximals, but both parties had G1 Optimus Prime not been restored.
Well to be fair the Predecon Megatron did not want to follow the OG Megatrons plan because he feared he would be wiped out as well. It was only when the transwarp explosion was going to alert Cybertron where they were and when they were that he decided to gamble on that chance or else lose the battle for good.
I always wondered how G1 Megatron came across the Golden Disk to begin with. It was launched on the Voyager probes in the 70s when Megatron and the other Transformers didn't wake up till 84. Did he just come across it randomly riding Astrotrain in space? Or was it much later before the events of the 86 movie? Plus how would it be the only means of finding Earth? Shockwave had spacebridge coordinates and other Decepticons had traveled space to at least know where things were. Just seemed odd that Megatron choose a random human relic to write a just-in-case idea. Still, nice way to tie in real science.
nice!
The funny thing is, I think that very same clip was used at the start of transformers kingdom.
The fact that the voyagers were launched in 77 feels weird.
I will bet anything Future Predamegatron''s message to his past self is something along the line of "For the love of Primus, whatever you do don't do what you're doing now trying to figure out the future! Remember, that's what I did and now I'm sending a message back in time because not happening is better then going on with the state my timeline's in now!"
Either that or the file was edited to come out all vague and broken once and then corrupt itself, to avoid a paradox and/or because that future Megatron realized if past him didn't get that exact message he'd do something different and he was okay with how things had worked out.
I was one that knew golden disk was actually based of a real life object. But a discussion about that never actually came up. So it was information I never got a chance to mention to others.
I still think it was pretty hilarious that at one of the Botcons someone asked the writers about the 5th symbol on the alien disk ( since 4 stories with the Vok had been told through the end of Season 2). And they were like....",What ,5th symbol?' 😂. Although the season 3 episode Other Victories didn't connect to any symbol, I believe that was supposed to tie everything up for the Vol, especially since the disk had already been destroyed.
The Golden Disk was the original plot devise that started the story. To think in 1984, G1 Megatron was able to put a secret message into the disk.
cool video