ON-BOARD AIR FILL VALVE - RYOBI NAILER
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- The on-board air fill valve is completely new to the Ryobi Framing Nailer and to all of their nailers. It's designed for field serviceability and decreased downtime. This is the 21° HP ONE+ Airstrike Framing Nailer, model #PBL345B. #shorts
Have you seen this feature anywhere else?
Have you seen this feature anywhere else?
Also- if you overfill it, it has a pressure relief safety feature.
Ridgid gas it as well
I've only seen it on something called the airbow. I believe I saw it on an Australian construction CZcams. It wasn't electric tho, it was a super high pressure tank rather than 120 psi
The ridgid framing nailer also has this. I believe Metabo and maybe Milwaukee do as well
Ridgid framing nailer, I have one.
Nice feature - should be industry standard IMO.
Yes, it's a nice feature for sure. Milwaukee has a sealed nitrogen setup that would make it complicated.
Ridgid cordless framing nailers have this feature. I actually have a Rigid framer. Metabo nailers can also be refilled with air, but a special reduction valve must be used.
Okay that's interesting. I didn't recall seeing that on the Milwaukee or DeWalt framing nailer.
@@MarkThomasBuilder Milwaukee nailers use compressed nitrogen instead of regular air.
Dewalt doesn't have one. I believe because of their flywheel design. I could be wrong.
@@Buddyluuv214 do you know if it needs to be refilled with nitrogen or is regular air fine? For the Milwaukee 21 degree nailer
@@SuperOtnok To the best of my knowledge, Milwaukee nailers must be manufacturer serviced to recharge because their nailers use nitrogen. My Ridgid framer and Metabo nailers use ordinary air allowing me to service myself.
Just got one, dropping 300' of horizontal fence with it this weekend 🤞🏻
It should work well for that!👍
How did it turn out?
You didn't respond to the other person so you must be working on it still
@@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987 i just bought it….. its a good nailer but to things someone got to be VERY mindful for, this isn’t s nailer you want to be using if you want to be nailing all day and putting on your tool belt….. this freaken thing is heavy AF…… and second thing is the loading area for thr naiker is made of plastic….. you drop this and it lands right at the wrong spot, it will shatter like an egg. You can take allen wrench and replace the item but do you really want the headache????
If this dude did a 300 feet fence lol his arm has to be tired lol
That is so awesome! I have heard that my Milwaukee has something like that but it's all inside I imagine
I understand that Milwaukee has a closed nitrogen spring mechanism that isn't able to be serviced like the air fill valve on the Ryobi.
Metabo HPT framing nailer has had this feature for years
Interesting, thanks for letting me know. I haven't tested many of their nailers yet.
@@MarkThomasBuilder sure my pleasure.
That’s an awesome feature, my Milwaukee one has to be serviced by them, which kinda sucks 😢
Thanks for sharing that mate. You just made my decision a lot easier. Have a good one.
Milwaukee can be refilled by you need to take the tool apart and use nitrogen gas and you may want to take it to the Milwaukee service center to get it refilled if it’s under warranty. However it should never need refilling because of the quality of the seals they put in to make sure it’s sealed and that the nitrogen gas doesn’t leak out.
Thanks for that information. I knew it had nitrogen but wasn't familiar with the high qualities seals.
I think the life span is 30k nails before refilling. I just don’t know if regular air is fine.
Air is 78 percent nitrogen
So when you are not using it, lets say your day is done. Will the nail gun charge itself over night or will it be weak still the next day till you charge it? Sorry maybe a silly question.
I haven't needed to fill the air fill valve yet. The battery resets the firing pin and the air pressure inside can leak out over time, so that's why you fill it. The battery really does all the work.
Senco has had this feature for quite a while i believe. Even begire Rigid.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I have a Senco collection, but they're all pnenumatic.
Milwaukee needs this more than ryobi, smh
MIlwaukee has nitrogen inside their nailer, not normal air. I'm not sure what solutions are out there for nitrogen filling?
@@MarkThomasBuilder Milwaukee is full of shit, in the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen. That’ll be the same with compressed air. There’s videos of people refilling the nailer with compressed air but it’s a pain in the ass because you need to take apart the whole nailer to refill it.
I guess you want to use a low filter so you don’t put damp air in it?
Yes, makes sense.
mine pbl345 wont take air it has a weird fill valve
If you don’t have an air compressor can you use a manual tire pump?
That's a good question. I don't have a manual tire pump, but I understand that some can deliver that much psi, depending on the model.
Probably not, besides if your spending $250-$300 for a nailer you can afford a $50 compressor as well
You can use a mountain bike shock pump. Mine goes to 250psi+ and has a digital read out.
Can you fill it with a bike pump or do you have to use an air compressor?
I think a bike pump would work. It doesn't take much to fill it, or top it off.
Wait… Just to understand, so you can hook this up to an air compressor?
You can add air to the tank, up to 125psi. This nailer doesn't run of an air hose, just a battery.
Sorry to be bothersome, I meant apart from using a battery, if battery dies, it will run on hosed compressor or is it those lil air tanks. I’m really sorry, I’m just excited for this tool and I really want to upgrade but been indecisive with getting this one or the Milwaukee M18 one.
@@antonioreyes421 No problem. The nailer won't work if the battery dies. The air tank is only to be filled if the nailer shows decreased performance over time. The air tank helps the battery somehow, but doesn't work on it's own to power the nails.
Oh! So many thanks for clarifying! My apologies for being bothersome. Now I’m sure I’m gonna get this tool! Jejejej
@antonioreyes421 nah if i read this right, its for when youve had it for a while and the pressurized tanks inside start to lose some of their built up pressure, you can refill it..
like a bb gun w co2 it works but once it starts running out it gets progressively weaker and needs a top off.. same idea
Can someone tell me why we need to refill it with air from a compressor, when the Ryobi brushless motor is supposed to fill it with air? So is the brushless motor failing?
I believe the brushless motor just resets the firing pin. The air fill valve may need to be topped off duing the cold winter months and over time when performance diminishes.
@MarkThomasBuilder Wow. So the 125 psi is enough to fire 20000 nails!!! The battery and motor doesn't do much. Amazing tech!!
@MarkThomasBuilder Are there springs or flywheel. Do you know of any videos that explains all this. Interesting to find out.
Sounds more like the tiny compressor storage tank may lose some air over time.
Its purpose is to put the tool back to factory air pressure spec.
While your battery and compressor motor is still part of the nailer firing system.
@loktom4068 Thanks. What is the purpose of the air storage tank if the battery does the firing?
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I want a battery framing nailer so bad. I'm trying to save up and buy a air compressor and nail gun but I'm hoping I can find a battery nail gun for reasonable price
I'm happy with the performance of this one. Would you get a 21° or 30° nailer?
Ether one really, but id like a 21
Had an issue with it not accepting normal tire filling piece does it need to be special or something?
Mine worked with a normal tire nozzle
Do you know when it will be released for sale in 2023???
Just got word today that they started rolling out this week on homedepot.com. They said limited quantities will be released throughout the month.
Why does it need air? I wanna buy a framing nailer but I’m not sure if I should get a Ryobi or Milwaukee.
The Ryobi may not need air filled much, but over time you may see a need to add some. It also may need more in winter cold conditions. They're both great nailers. The Milwaukee doesn't have an air filler. I believe it has sealed nitrogen inside.
You can refill the Milwaukee - but it requires disassembly and a specific air fitting: a 1/8 bsp male to male adaptor if I’m not mistaken. Though the Milwaukee calls for Nitrogen - granted the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen. Really at the end of the day, it all depends on how much a nailer is used - wear and tear leads to leakage and eventually the unit requires servicing. I’ve got the Milwaukee framing, 15g and 18g nailers and love them, but hats off to Ryobi for making our lives a bit easier 👏. I’m guessing we may see in the next generation of nailers from Milwaukee coming with an outboard air fill stem.
Hmmm, 125psi. Doesn't seem like much room to fit any air that will last any amount of time. Air assisted for colder days perhaps? Thanks for this!
Good question. I'm interested in finding out more about this and will try it out if needed on colder days.
Pretty sure Metabo at one point had this
Yes, their 18v platform has one. I haven't had a chance to test one out yet. I'm a fan of their roofing nailers though.
Yeah a lot of them have hey Valve but that one is better placed in the right size like a tire where the others you have to buy a reducer
Interesting, I didn't know about that reducer.
@@MarkThomasBuilder not cheap I think I bought it for 65 bucks which is $65 too much when they could just did what Ryobi did
same gun as the rigid available a year ago…
That's what I'm hearing, but would like to see for myself.
When can I buy?
I heard it will be available this month. It's currently not in stock on the Home Depot Website.
what model is that one??
21 degree framing nailer
All that for one nail shot hahahaha. Jk
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