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She was trying to replace her daughter that died in an accident. That whole situation was beyond screwed up. Her husband practically begged her to re-home Travis.
What I want to know is why a dog wouldn't suffice.
@@thegreatestcrewmate9195 I guess because a baby chimp is more "human like" than a dog, and since they raised Travis so young it really got stuck in their brains that he was their kid. As much as I love animals, treating a non-human animal as a human almost never ends well.
@@cozmicdoodles7167 She could've literally adopted a child, but considering how she treated that wild animal that's probably a good thing that she didn't.
@@jacquelinedavis9948 Definitely.
I once again advocate for better education on mental health, particularly grief, in this world.
Moral of the story: Just because you love animals and nature, doesn't mean animals and nature have any cosmic obligation to love you back.
Old lady: "I love you like my own son!"
Gorrila: *"...... Your smile still pisses me off."* 👊💥
Its kind of makes sense that many ancient religions view their gods less like protectors and more like landlords to be respected and feared instead of to be loved out of their good nature.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 When your home got rocked by an earthquake or tidalwave, you kinda have to drop the whole "benevolent" aspect of them.
@@leonardhollsten8145 that or Famine, famine and climate change can be very devestating to Ancient civilisations which explains why some civs have very extreme religious beliefs like the Aztecs.
Though I disagree on the earthquake and Tidal thing as it depends sometimes it instead increases belief instead and people blame institutions.
I would add that there is a difference between love and a desire to possess. Love is freeing.
For those who misunderstood, Moe didn't attack his owner. Other chimps did. Poor Moe was also traumatized after seeing what other chimpanzees did to Davis
Poor Moe, he deserved better
and didn't He say that the Event terrified Moe so much that He appeared paralyzed?
Poor moe...
Saddest part is, after the attack, moe was transferred to another place, and disappeared never to be seen again. He was thought to have escaped, but it would've been likely for him to be found or return to the facility. He was never found.
ugh what horrible trauma. He basically witnessed his father being mauled.
The two scariest things about the Travis incident, at least for me:
1. You can HEAR Travis in the 911 call... made worse by the operator thinking it was a prank and not taking it seriously at first.
2. If it wasn't for her forgetting the attack, the last visual memory Nash would ever have would have been an enraged chimpanzee tearing her apart.
Pretty nuts to that the newer planet of the apes movie is most likely heavily based on the second story
With all due respect, that lady was asking for it, she had an emotionally abusive, unhealthy relationship with a fckn chimpanzee. I dont feel strongly positive about that second point there. Fck around and find out.
1. was the operator 100% traumatized upon learning the truth?
2. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not, completely forgetting that the animal you loved so much tried to kill you. (I'll stick to cats, though)
@NinjaFlibble Well they had to remove her eyes, so basically if she hadn't forgotten, the last thing she would have seen for the rest of her life would've been what was equivalent to her own son, tearing her face apart. I'd consider forgetting a blessing, but in most cases where people forget, they seem to wish they hadn't. Then again, I've never had my face ripped off so I can't talk.
It's not exactly forgetting the event, but more of repressing it. Think about it: this event was so awful, so traumatizing and hellish, most people wouldn't be able to process what happened entirely. So, the mind subconsciously takes that painful memory and kind of pushes it down, locking it away. That memory is still in there somewhere, it's just not going to be actively remembered because it would cause too much pain for the individual. Basically your mind knows it cannot handle re-living those events at the moment and hides it away.
Some people end up remembering repressed memories after some time, some never do. In her case, I would see repressing a chimpanzee attack as a good thing. If that happened to me, I'd never want to remember what torturous agony I was put through.
I honestly don't know why people think owning a literal black airforce with thumbs is a good idea.
Drake and Josh.
Because chimps for the longest time and still to this day from what I know. Are framed as jovial, happy, chill and maybe a little dopey. Combined that with the knowledge that they are second in intelligence only to us gives the impression that owning one would be fine. Little do people know that no matter how cautious, well meaning or even skilled you are at raising one. Chimps are chimps. Ticking timebombs at best and psychopathic, sadistic bastards at worst.
Because stupidity.
Because idiots are in abundance.
What's a black airforce?
Knowing that a smile from a chimp is a sign of aggression that picture of the chimp holding the baby and smiling got a whole hell of a lot scarier.
It already terrified me
@flower has eaten eat a waffle iorn
@flower has eaten bot?
Yes, it went from terrifying to bricking your pants
I've actually had to work taking care of a couple dozen macaques, and they also bare their teeth as a sign of aggression. Let me be clear: if that chimp was smiling like that as a sign of aggression, somebody would have very likely been mauled the moment they approached to retrieve the baby. Primates like that are quick to violence when they are like that unless you back off slowly while making the appropriate submissive expression (head tilted slightly whilst moving your lips like you are making a popping sound) and not looking at them directly (and even then they can still end up charging you).
What's more likely, given the context of the chimp being raised by humans and chimps generally being quite intelligent, is that the chimp in question has picked up on how humans use smiles and, like a child learning to speak, mimicked it's "parents" in the application thereof.
The problem comes in situations where the chimp legitimately feels stressed and/or threatened as people generally wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the learned "I'm happy" smile and the instinctive "Back off now" smile.
Unlike the bear guy, Steve Irwin always had security and emergency support nearby.
Yes, he too believed he can handle animals safely.
But he always respected their danger capabilities.
Which makes it only more tragic that he did pass away.
He didn’t fuck with cassowaries so that’s also another thing
And the sad thing is, I can hear him saying something like "sorry there big guy, didn't mean to startle you" to the stingray that killed him. He understood the risks and took them anyway with as much safety as possible because he wanted to help people learn about animals and become passionate. Yet he still got got. If that's not enough to make you weary around wild animals, I don't think anything will
Rest in peace, king. He is currently being missed 😞
Rest in peace, king. He is currently being missed 😞
If Steve was still alive he would 100% not blame the stingray
The Moe story always makes me feel so sad for Moe. He was so scared, he was in freeze mode. They tried to do what was best for him, even kept visiting him. But Moe knew only humans and never knew chimp culture or witnessed their cruelty. Poor ape, he was traumatized that day too. 😢😔😣
Even worse it was his adopted father that got mutilated
Moe also disappeared allegedly
That’s why you should never take wild animals outside their habitat place ,they took them out of Tanzania and brought it to the US ,that was already one mistake ,they also treating him like a human instead of an animal ,they are wild animals not pets .
@@Mustafa70116yeah he ran off into the mountains around a year later and hasn’t been seen since
It's crazy that Jason Coates is the only one in these stories who made the sensible decisions yet he's the only one that got charged and served jail time.
People really do be jumping into tiger exhibits and suing (successfully) zoos after getting mauled, but Jason defends himself and his dog from unprovoked attack and gets slammed.
I mean, most of the people in this story were either mauled to death or are so badly injured they might as well be dead
So it's not like they got away with a slap on the wrist while Jason went to jail
@@DarkDoughnutsVids I suppose they paid the price in blood and pain rather than time
@@DarkDoughnutsVids I more meant the plethora of other people outside of this video (such as the teacher that tried to commit suicide via polar bear, or the boys that taunted Tatiana the Tiger into killing/mauling them and then suing the zoo). A few of the people here who ere mauled by their own animals really did pay the price in full already.
I think Travis' owner was gonna serve time but she died either before the trial or sentencing idk. All I remember is she passed away not long after the attack
The whole "the animals didn't go rogue, they went animal" always reminds me of "the water isn't 'shark-infested', that's their home. It's human infested."
That's true
Yep, Leave the animals alone!
@@carolynmaynard3694 but humans are animals too they act like animals they take like animals they are evolved animals.
@@thekingisback6904 yet unlike animals we find it smart to try and mess with predators
@@showbizstudios655 yeah
Worst part about the Travis the Chimp incident?
Sandra's husband wanted Travis to go to a chimp sanctuary. After her husband died, Sandra basically went against his wishes because "Travis was all she had".
The entire moral of NOPE is “Don’t exploit dangerous creatures for entertainment and profit.” Even the horses in that movie back that up.
I haven’t watched it but if ur saying that horses will go wild animal on u then ur wrong (I mean this in the most respectful way possible)
I feel so bad for Travis. What a miserable life. No other chimps near him, no real socializing, fed junk food, denied him the right to live like a normal chimp. It WAS inevitable and it WAS caused by Sandy. Took years of mistreatment that came to a brutal head. I’m so glad Charla survived.
It still sad that she had her only daughter and husband die.. depression does stuff. I partially blame it on depression
and its pretty funny after her friend got shredded to pieces by her chimp, she was like "okay im just gonna get more chimpanzees"
@@ryobaaishi9968 depression does stuff but even before all of that they set him up for failure
@@ryobaaishi9968 It's not depression - its loss of contact with reality. That is what happens when you live outside nature. Ask ANY AAANY real farmer that takes care of his livestock and has to kill them, every one that hasn't got machinery to help him will tell you about him, his grandpa or someone who was attacked by a perfectly happy animal being treated normally. Especially "fun" stories are with cows and bulls. Yeah, that sht isn't nice. You need to understand that animals are animals. Hell, watch worst dog attacks and you'll see a dog behaving like he's ancestors did - like a wolf. And this comes from a person who used to train dogs, and LOVE them. But IF you want to have a happy animal, respect them. For dogs it usually means walk them as a leader of the pack twice a day, make them have a job(ball fetching or something, whatever is appropriate) and have quality interaction with them. For wild animals it means LET THEM BE WILD ANIMALS!!!!! I THE WILD!!!! Yeeez, people are retards....poor animals...and honestly, poor people who are retards.... :/
This is a classic "nobody wins" situation.
Just because treating something like a child brings a human comfort doesn’t mean it’s good for the animal. It never is. They’re individuals and not children. Sadly this is how we humans are evolved to express love and animals seem to fall into a weird spot for us emotionally as we seem to liken them with children, wether we are aware of it or not.
“The bear that was found guilty for only being a bear”….
Love that you said that, people really need to understand it
You can't save everyone. Some people are wayyyyyy too idealistic and don't live in reality 🤷🏾♂️
Still killin' the fcker.
When sh¡t gets real...
→¢μnts get tribal!
That being said, the rangers did what they had to do: once a bear gets the chance to eat a person, it starts thinking that maybe long pork cutlet isn’t such a bad option to have on the menu. And that’s not something you can risk the Bear continuing with.
@@spindash64 then stay out of the woods... Humans already ruin this earth now animals can't even be in their own spot no more smh.
@@spindash64 Huntings humans always seems like more trouble than it's worth until they try it and then they find it's actually not that hard... Until they get executed anyway, but they can't understand that's coming for them. Seems like the pattern for all predators.
I remember when roy got attacked by the white tiger. I had respect for Roy that he did not blame the animal. That Roy was pretty much dying and asking people not to hurt the tiger says a lot about Roy's character.
Well he was working with tigers, I still think he was an idiot for that💀
It says that he was stupid
says he understood it was his own fault, not the animals@@karolswieboda1781
Yeah and he’s still a brain 💀 Id e it. For trying to work with such animals.
@@kenysulivan95Someone has to do it.
Ngl I feel bad for Moe. Even though he was a chimp and therefore COULD kill his owner, he actually got a more healthy treatment and still loved what are basically his parents, so seeing them getting gored by his own kind and being unable to do anything is sad.
As psychology student I can tell you, raising a chimp as a human never ends well developmentally seeking. Just look at the problems Lucy had when returned to her own kind.
What happened to Lucy?
Agree- look what happened to Tarzan 😁
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Ultimately she was killed by poachers, but the thing Ian is mentioning is that she was completely unable to properly integrate into an ape society.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real She developed a fetish for human men.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real ima just quote sam o'nella " she was poached like a fucking egg"
Jason casually having a better understanding of what chimps are capable of than any of the weirdos who claimed to handle the animals is pretty telling.
People so badly want to think of animals as their friends or pretend they can understand them on this really deep level that they just ignore the facts.
Like the guy that claimed to "understand" bears.....they ate him.....and his GF.
There's also a guy that lives with a "wild" (but on a reservation) wolf pack...there'll be a somewhat empty funeral for him too I suspect.
Fucking embarrassing considering they looks like they bench cars for a living. I'd have been doubtful of the guns effectiveness and put a few in it
never even heard of this Travis story before, Americans are truly.... truly bizarre people
@@neltins5308 an average day in Florida.
I used to be a zookeeper, just reptiles and birds so no big mammals, but there's still a message that gets drilled into every new keeper: No matter how much you love the animal and no matter how much it seems to love you back, never turn your back on it
The idea of a tiger with the zoomies is downright terrifying when my own little alley cat causes me enough chaos when he gets playful with how he shreds and bites my fingers and toes when I turn around.
People are nuts to want the big wild animals.
Missed a detail about the James St. Davis incident, particularly about Moe.
A few years after the attack, he broke out of his enclosure and escaped into the wilderness. Even with search parties dispatched, the chimp was never found again.
Edit: Actually, it's way more likely Moe was killed by the sanctuary owners or other chimps, and they may be using "he escaped" as a cover-up. That's even more terrible, if true.
If Moe did die in the sanctuary it would most likely be the cause of other chimps as if he died of natural causes the sanctuary would have mentioned it. Now there’s also that possibility Moe himself went CHIMP which led to his supposed demise.
I'd posit that the poor thing died of a broken heart, really
Even if Moe was a wild chimp, the fact he watched his owner get mauled by two other chimps and became paralyzed and traumatized is so heartbreaking :(
Knowing how intelligent they are, he probably self-deleted and it was too disturbing to release to the public. We've known dolphins kept in poor conditions to willingly self-delete before, there's no reason why a chimp theoretically couldn't.
That last story made me kinda mad. Dude served jail time and missed the birth of his kid for doing what literally any rational person would have done. Man is a hero in my book
Really makes you wonder how much tax revenue the relevant authorities were collecting from Chimp Party in what should have been an open and shut case of self-defense/defense-of-other.
idk about hero but he didn't deserve that shit for sure. One of many many examples of our fucked legal system.
I don't get why we're allowed to kill animals in the wild and not kill the humans that exploit them in urban areas , both bring great danger to humans but the ones in the wild rarely hurt anyone unless you trespass onto their habitats.
@@Mai_TS--_-- because that could easily be abused by humans who would claim things and lie about humans abusing other humans obviously.
People can make all the laws they want, but they can't change the laws of physics of the Universe. They can't change the principles of causality. And the laws of causality of my Universe say: "You fuck with my dog, you're fucked". Chimps or not. Not even my responsibility, really.
If you want to be really mad, look up the chimpanzee Lucy, who some 1960s "scientists" literally raised as if she were their human daughter. They taught her to dress herself, make tea, use silverware and furniture. When she became sexually mature, her psychotherapist "father" gave her a playgirl magazine to see if she was aroused by human men (she was). He then tried to introduce her to a male chimp, and she was terrified because she'd never met another chimp before.
When she turned 12 and was too strong and dangerous to continue living with them, they just took her to a preserve in Gambia. Even though the people working there said she was not a good fit for rehabilitation and instead should go to a chimp retirement home where she could safely continue to live like she had all her life with all the food, magazines, toys, and tea that she was used to (but maybe not the gin and "alone time" with porn mags and a vacuum cleaner). But her "parents" left her there and returned to the US after a few weeks, and her "dad" published a book about the experiment of raising her that same year that they abandoned her.
It was a university student that stayed at the center for years to try and help her assimilate. She never did. She never showed attraction to the male chimps or got a mate. She didn’t want anything to do with the other chimps and was clearly depressed. She refused to eat and would sign "hurt" to the student.
It took almost a decade for her to actually begin to integrate with the chimps. A year after she did finally start to live with them, her dead body was found. The student thinks it may have been poachers that killed her (since her hands were missing). If it was, she would have probably just walked right up to them to say hello.
That's upsetting. And really disturbing. Why would these scientists POSSIBLY be interested in her reaction to p*rn? Makes me wonder if that was the end of the perverted experiments on her...😬
That’s so messed up.. but my question is how did she become conditioned to be aroused by human men and NOT chimp men.. like you would’ve thought her natural biological thought process would’ve taken over
@@rawfermews4186 yeah, that was a huge surprise. I guess it may be similar to when imprinted birds will try to court their handler and don't want to mate with their own species. There's biological processes that happen when animals are infants that shape how they behave when adults. She was raised by humans and had literally never seen another chimp before. If something as different to humans as a falcon can think it should court people instead of birds, it follows that an ape would too. And it makes the story even sadder.
That last sentence broke my heart holy shit
@@rawfermews4186 she was sexually mature and that was the only thing she ever saw.she didn't know there was something called another chimp let alone a male chimp
She probably doesn't remember because our brains have a thing where they say "fuck that" to trauma sometimes and forces us to forget it, sort of as a way to protect itself. Lets be honest, her brain made a smart move there.
Edit: Here's one thing we can learn from this; If you're gonna fuck around with animals, remember that they're WILD animals and would gladly maul you in the worst most painful and traumatizing ways possible, no matter how attached they are to you.
I wish my brain would do that, mine does the opposite and figuratively rubs my nose in it hard
That's the reason people have more than one child. If humans remembered how childbirth felt we'd have gone extinct a long time ago
Another thing we can learn, based off of our history.
We are the apex creature on this planet. Animals in nature are, to us, no more than food sources.
Is that why I can't vividly imagine pain and can only remember how I described pain to myself
@@cc619That's why MoonStar said "sometimes"...
As someone who grew up in Alaska, I would like to add that "bear spray" is more of a seasoning than a deterrent.
Also, a Park Ranger offered Treadwell a Rifle and insisted that he take it, which he didn't do.
In Alaska, you step out of the vehicle and into the food chain. So be prepared.
Moral of the story: "Chimpanzee" and "pet" should never belong in the same sentence unless this sentence warns against keeping these violent primates as pets.
How about "the chimpanzee killed my pet dog"?
What about "I am calling the cops because you have a chimpanzee as a pet"
Getting strong Sam O'Nella academy vibes hah
@@fresanegra77 I miss that guy
@@derpyducks22 he still lives on...
On the many new channels that follow his format so the legend lives on :)
Let me get this straight, a man gets 30 days in jail and charged with a felony for defending the life of his dog, his friends, and himself, against one of the most homicidal life forms on the face of the Earth that was a clear and present danger, what the actual f***.
Yup. The human race is doomed
There are two stories. He either shot an already tranquilized animal that was obviously no threat anymore or defended against an attacking animal that still was a threat. Not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
@@raisindrahgon wats the point they were gonna put down the chimp anyways
Now imagine when his dog would escape just to explore, some dumb fuck kids would fuck with making the dog defend itself and surely biting, and let's say the bite is not that horrible, painful as fuck and will leave a scar but not fatal. The owner is gonna be sued and the dog could be put down.
@@raisindrahgon yeah but whose story was that the chimp was already tranqed? Chimp Party's? That's immediately sus since they would need that story to seek legal action, and they would definitely want to cover their losses somehow.
One of the many upsetting points in here was that officer(s) were denied therapy. Had it been a human who had done those things, they totally would’ve been provided counseling. Another round of applause for our healthcare system. I can’t even begin to imagine the PTSD from that, nor do I want to.
The girlfriend in the Grizzly Man death (Amy Huegenard) didn’t “just scream,” and she stayed with him while he was being attacked despite him yelling at her to leave and try to escape. She likely used a frying pan to try beat the bear off her boyfriend (there were sounds they thought were a frying pan being hit swing around, but as it’s just audio, it’s unclear, but probably not the guy being mauled by a underfed grizzly).
She easily could have choose to run as her boyfriend told her to do, but stayed and attempted to help get him away from the bear, and was killed as well.
Love kills 😢
Love is nice and all, but she'd be about as much good hitting that thing with a pool noodle
@@apputaiparambil
That’s pretty cynical.
@@whathell6t it is what is, not what it could be, maybe it could but yes
Sir, i'm a wildlife vet and ethologist working for the World Animal Protection and the UNESCO biospheres and my colleagues and myself are all talking about how professional, mature and honest the way you present things is .
You have our sincere consideration.
I'm sorry but you work for... WAP?
among us
czcams.com/video/CWfd8OjWkwg/video.html
This is what happened
You work for the WAP!?
@@kachi2782 WAP stands for several things and this is the internet
I think it's weird that certain people always want wild animals as pets. I'm still at the "took baths with him."
Yeah, that's a whole new level of creepy. They needed grief counseling over losing their daughter, not a "pet" wild animal.
I'm an animal lover but, I couldn't even imagine owning a wild animal
They’re not right in the head
I AGREE.......MY FRIENDS DOG TRIES TO WATCH ME TAKE SHOWERS AND I WANT TO GET RID OF HIM, LET ALONE A CHIMP!!!
Yeah ain't no telling what they were doing to that damn chimp yuck
Travis was such a tragic character. These animals don't stand a chance: they're taken out of their natural environment, domesticated until they can never be released back into the wild, yet never truly tamed and so inevitably become too wild for human society. And then they're stuck in limbo, usually in the care of people who don't respect them as animals and cannot provide them with what they need to truly be happy.
What if they're a cat or dog?
@@GiordanDiodatodomestic cats and dogs are that, domesticated. They're already used to being around humans and it's only with certain breeds (pitbulls) where people intentionally breed some to be attack dogs, and that's why they keep trending for all the wrong reasons.
In school we watched the documentary about Tim, and at lunch my friends and I thought it was best to look up the audio reenactment’s and photos of the crime scene. The audio by themselves traumatized us since they sounded so real and so terrifying. I can’t imagine how the real audio played out and I’m glad no one could ever listen to it.
the real audio is't very hard to listen.
@@lmpoopingpigeonYou've never heard the real audio. It isn't available.
@@lmpoopingpigeon wow, you're such a tough guy aren't you ?
@@kitkatboard I am. I've been watching the ruzzian lathe accident while drinking my morning coffee with a sandwich. I feel sorry for the people in such videos, and yet I can watch it without any probs.
@@lmpoopingpigeonyou sound childish
The fact that a chimp’s already creepy smile is a sign of aggression adds a whole level of terror.
They do be grinning before they remove a person from the earth
@@yeezoyoutube bro got me chuckling
@@yeezoyoutube lmaoo why would you say it like that
@@yeezoyoutube I don't know if I should thank you for helping remove the unsettling feeling I have in me right now or something 😭 When I tell you I wheezed at this comment
light skin rizz before they murder a kid with rocks 😤
Travis was a well behaved monkey until he reached adulthood and sexual maturity
They didn't take that testosterone seriously. Sandra's husband actually asked her to send Travis to a sanctuary when he was dying because he was afraid she wouldn't be able to handle him alone but she couldn't give him up. It was a mess all around
So how did he transform from a monkey into an ape?
Chimpanzees are apes, like humans, actually. Pretty sure they're our closest relative species.
pretty sure they gave him crack
@@user-it2kq4ty9q I think only she gave him drugs. I mean Xanax, Alcohol, etc.
Admittedly, it would have been a very hard time for Travis to have such a sudden change in life, but it still would have been a better end than what he got
I'm a bit surprised you went over the story of Timothy Treadwell but not that of Siberian girl Olga Moskalyova back in 2011. That's the one that made me swear never to go near bears. It gives me goosebumps every time my daughter who lives in Montana tells me she's going camping.
What happened to her?
I just read the article and it was horrific. Olga had phoned her mom three times as it was happening. The mother bear didn't kill her instantly, no, it also brought her cubs. By her last phone call Olga said it no longer hurt.
Travis' berserk smile while holding that baby is a different kind of nightmare altogether, seeing what he have done to the lady. 1:00
My dad actually hunted around the area where Timothy camped at...Not only did Timothy set his camp up on a bear trail, he set it up near a narrow part of a river, where the biggest and oldest bears would go to catch fish, since it was easier than fishing on a wider area of the river. That, and he chose a time of year where both berries and salmon were scarce...
That's about as much in the danger zone as you can get without literally wearing a salmon necklace.
I hate that they put the bear down too because ???? It’s in the WILD?? I don’t agree with it at zoos either but i can SEE since zoos are really for people to look at them and crap but this man literally went into bear habitat at the worst time and bears have to eat. You don’t see other animals putting humans down for killing animals for food? I’m not saying yannoe fuck this man and his girl but what’s done is done. The animal shouldn’t be merked because someone thinks they’re not like other people and can go into dangerous territory. If I purposely build my house on a faultline and an earthquake occurs and breaks my house should I blow up the earth? No. It’s technically my fault.
@@kiki13451 I'm still wondering how tf they tracked it down
@@kiki13451 I do agree they shouldn't have to put down the bear for being a bear, but it was probably for safety. If that bear was able to live on it'd probably continue to hunt humans if given the chance. In the end the bear was just hungry and Timothy was the idiot that basically knowingly became a bears toothpick
@@Lechgang actually his girlfriend was wearing some kind of perfume which was known to make bears go properly nuts, not saying if it weren't for that they would still be alive but it really didn't help.
Fun Fact about starving bears, they will devour their own kids to preserve themselves and Timothy knew they were killing their babies and still didn't take that as a hint to skedadle.
In what way is this fun to you 💀
@@GottaCatchAGrip In the sense that the irony of someone who claimed to know bears ignored all warning signs because of his ego and delusion he bought into of his special connection to them. Also fun facts aren't generally fun.
@@paselitoru fair fair
@@GottaCatchAGrip its fun understanding the general norms of animals compared to humans
It's clear the guy was . . . . . unusual. Maybe he loved bears so much he offered himself and his girlfriend as a sacrifice?
Worst part about Timothy, he was right
He genuinely had a connection and a trust with the bears he lived near, it’s just that the bears that killed him and his girlfriend weren’t from that area and weren’t familiar with Timothy
Another commenter disagrees with you, (reportedly, he had named the bear who killed him "Grumpy",) but neither of you cite a source.
Sure Jan. Sure. Bears will eat their own cubs they will eat anything during that time of year. He was a fucking idiot who died because he didn't think. Worse he got an innocent woman eaten as well. Wild animals are just that wild. Fuck around and you're dead.
I think it's more that Timothy, to an absolutely bonkers degree, genuinely didn't fear the bears because of his delusions of being actually bonded with them. He didn't act like prey and hung around well fed bears much of the time, so they didn't have as much incentive to hurt him as long as he wasn't TOO much of a thorn in their side... I remember seeing a clip of Timothy talking with a bear walking right by him. The bear decides to take a swat at him and that freakin guy swats back at the bear, and then points his finger at it and admonishes it like it's a housecat. Then starts doing baby talk at it. It's insane and I have never been able to forget it even though I haven't seen the Werner Herzog documentary in like 15 years and am probably remembering some detail wrong.
He might've "bonded" with a few bears simply equating to them getting used to his presence and recognizing he hasn't done anything henceforth so no need to be wary. If the grumpy story is true, bonding or familiarity wouldn't matter. He needed a meal before hibernation
You know, if Travis was allowed to get his pent-up energy and emotions out instead of being locked and drugged in a house, he probably would have been fine. Animals are not humans, and they can't survive like humans do. As someone who has a lot of exotic pets, you have to let your pets be what they are. You also have to take extreme caution when their routine gets interrupted or emotional trauma is present. They will never behave like a human. Even I'm at fault for almost killing my tarantula while rehousing her. I had to dig her out of her burrow, and despite handling her multiple times with no issue, she was stressed and proceeded to jump out of my hand. If I hadn't caught her, she would have splattered on the ground. Even after catching her, she skittered up my arm, and I had to remain still while she crawled all over me until she calmed down. Instead of catching her in a cup, like I should have done, I figured I could handle her and then put her into a cup for safe keeping. I didn't take into account that I just tore her house up and forced her out of her environment as when I usually handle her, I coax her out very slowly so she can adjust comfortably to being manipulated. It's not her fault for freaking out. It's my fault as her caretaker for not accounting for her emotional distress and what she might do, and that's just a spider! Imagine a tiger, chimp, or bear being put in an uncomfortable situation and having no way to communicate. They're going to lash out, regardless of who's around them. An animal is only as manageable as its needs and desires allow. Instinct WILL kick in when things are abnormal for the animal, and they will respond how they would respond in the wild. Domestication can only happen when the animal is calm and happy. Anything else, and you should expect a wild animal to behave like a wild animal. Even if you've raised a tiger from a cub. You're only its caretaker and WILL become food or a target of aggression if it needs to.
My man here has sparked a massive resurgence in zoology studies for me. Much thanks; we need more content creators like you.
@whaaa t nah screw off
There has been a video about Travis for months. He just remade it.
Ok
666 👍
Good luck with the studies
This is what I love about the original two jurassic park movies, they are not heroes, villians, or monsters, they are just animals, plain and simple.
I completely agree
Right. I always saw it as humans basically trying to survive in the past. Rather than characterized antagonists, the dinosaurs are glorified environmental hazards. Humans didn't exist at the same time as dinosaurs for a reason.
Except with the Spinosaurus. That thing went so far out of its way to run everyone's shit. I think they forgot to model his black AFs during production.
Nah if you read the books they were just making em into monsters
I fucking hated dominion that movie was shit the only good Jurassic park movies are the first 3
They "just...do what they do🤷♂️".
That last story really is the "The worst person you know you just made a good point" meme
"I genuinely hope none of you got laid" haha I was thinking the same thing 🤣😂 12:07
The birthday cake incident was so horrific. Chewed his fingers and genitals off, ripped his face off all that. People think it's made up when I tell that story because Rogan talked about it. This story and Charlotte nash the reason I don't believe in keeping wild animals in suburbs. This content is top tier. Also I don't know what you do to your videos to make them fit the screen so big but it's fucking awesome I wish everyone would do it.
Well I don't know what you do to make them fit the screen. The way I get them, the aspect ratio is backward.
Well, bearded dragons are wild animals, you wouldn’t allow them in the suburbs?
Yeah it is crazy to hear about....you know what is crazier? Actually listening to the audio of Treadwll get eaten alive.
@@pressftopayrespects6325 you know damn well what kinds of animals they mean, it aint dinky little venomless reptiles that fit in your hands
please just get a bonobo they are way less harmless if you just give them space! STOP ADOPTING CHIMPANZEE IT WILL KILL YOU SO DONT TRY IT
Considering Suzie had attacked humans, or tried to, wouldn't she have been put down anyway if Jason hadn't shot her? Either way, I side with Jason. Wild animal threatening my pet baby? Yeah, it's going down same as if it threatened me. I'm surprised he didn't counter sue Chimp Party for emotional trauma; one would think Jason would have an easy win there!
You would think that Jason would have been in the right since Suzie was attacking him and his family, even if she was tranquillized, chimps have black air force energy and she was probably still going
@@perhaps1131 Something tells me that her being tranquilized was a false claim by Chimp Party so they could have grounds for legal action, otherwise, they'd be shit outta luck and outta money.
Plus he was 18 and in a high stress situation where he, his friends, and his dog were being attacked by not one not two but *THREE* 250 lb wild animals whether or not he knew it was tranked doesn't matter it was a high stress panicked situation where of course the terrified and likely traumatized teenager was going to shoot at the aggressors
Chimp Party, probably much like travis' family, likely had a lot of social capital with the locals, and not to mention probably money to operate as they did. those two combine to create a pretty definitive way for people to get away with almost anything.
It's because America's justice system is heavily favored towards corporate interests, and justice more often than not simply bends for those with the highest amount of money. You people have no rights. The US is an oligarchy. Enjoy.
I have a lot of respect for Roy though… glad he didn’t want his tiger killed.
That movie NOPE haunts me. The chimp stuff, the psychopath aging child star, the horse sacrifices… I guess it’s probably the best horror movie I’ve ever seen. But it wounded me.
It's a movie so good I don't think I'll ever watch it again.
Honestly, I feel bad for both the bear and Timothy's girlfriend. The girlfriend has expressed how uncomfortable she was during the trip and even wanted to leave. I'm sorry for Timothy's family but he more or less got his girlfriend and the bear killed. With love comes respect and if you really love an animal, you leave it the eff alone...
This is the perfect example of the fact that love doesn't automatically mean respect. No doubt in my mind that the man loved those bears, but he lacked respect for them, and that lack of respect ultimately cost him and his girlfriend their lives
Nothing "more or less" about it, his actions and blatant disregard for literally everybody around him, including the person he's in a relationship with, _directly_ led to his own, his girlfriend's, and the bear's deaths. He has nobody to blame but himself and his own stubborn delusions.
Man, it traumatized the heck out of the cops that went there... like wth, Chimpanzees are scary
She did, so many times that this is bad. AND HE IGNORED HER. smh
There's a phrase that says "a fed animal is a dead animal." I don't know if he was feeding them but same principle. Animals that hurt humans get put down, and doing stuff like feeding them or hanging around them while they're extremely hungry makes them much more likely to hurt humans.
"Denied therapy." Damn that's cold. I didn't know we lived in a world where you can tell someone they're not allowed to have basic mental health services.
It can happen if the client is too dangerous for anyone to help.
and a police officer, the kind of person you'd want most to be emotionally stable
Didn't that mean the police force wouldn't pay for it?
Therapy is a service like any other, you can be denied by having no one willing to work with you.
Also, we live in a world where literally everything can be taken away from you, illegally there's nothing stopping some nutter from grabbing you and stuffing you in a basement, Well there is one thing trying to stop people from doing that it's called the government but they have, we'll say mixed results.
Legally well it's the government throwing you in the basement. Again mixed results but going to say it leans to one side.
He was allowed to go seek therapy himself, just unlike other cops who see fucked up shit, the department refused to pay for it.
Some people really think it's like Disney land out in the wild 💀
It’s funny how a lot of people think we humans are so horrible when in reality we’re massive sissies
The last story was frightening but so glad they ended up okay. Absolutely crazy that someone would get into trouble for defending their friends and dog from a group of crazed chimps.
The justice system is beyond screwed up is someone goes to jail for that. Judge and jury should've read a more law books or had more compassion for the dude whose dog was in danger.
I was at a zoo with a large, enclosed habitat with several chimpanzees. Two were fighting & I asked a zoo keeper standing next to me what happens if one gets hurt. She said ‘They can tear the arms off a person, so unless it’s life threatening, we don’t go in there.” …Fair enough.
Yeah, I remember hearing on CZcams or something about how most zookeeper trust lions more than Chimps.
remember a zookeeper saying something similar when i went on a trip to one. She says that out of all the animals on the park 'you dont mess with chimps'. she says any other anima she'll happily handle with but chimps is the one animal she'd refuse to go into the enclosure with and doesnt understand why others would do so.
Chimps are also onsight kills if they break out while big Cats usually get tranq
That reminds me, I forget which zoo I was at, but they were feeding the Chimpanzees and the zookeeper was going along the outside of the enclosure and putting food through the bars and kept walking. That seemed smart to me since not only was the food not all in one place for them to fight over, but when the chimps came running over to see what was put in, she wasn't anywhere near it when they got there. And even then there were some smart ones who seemed ready to take it right out of her hand by going ahead on the route. Zookeepers are smart to keep as much distance as they can from these guys.
lol, that’s a chimp
Remind me of that time I watched a short clip that 2 silverbacks were fighting and the people there was yelling and try to cancel the zoo keeper for not jump in there to stop them
What he’s gonna do then 😂😂
The last one was so upsetting. Jason and his friends were attacked by three chimpanzees and yet he was charged for doing what I and honestly any person would do. Absolutely mind boggling.
The idea of seeing three chimps while you're minding your own business is terrifying. Possibly one of the worst things I can imagine
He literally saved the lives of himself, his friends, and his dog by ending the life of a single chimpanzee out of the three that were attacking them. And yet he’s the bad guy in this somehow. Like he said, it takes a special kinda stupid to make PETA look like the good guys.
Yeah if he didn't defend himself and the vhimps attacked him then they will all die and the chimps will be put down so I think its a better idea to just shoot the monkeys
The prosecuting attorney and the judge that allowed it both need to go to ass raping prison for a month for every day Jason was behind bars!
If it makes you feel better, the company who caused these messes to happen are bankrupt, and I am grateful to society for that
The fact that bro told them not to hurt the tiger does deserve some respect
This video game me the chills. And the last story made me so angry. Jason was doing what any rational person would when faced woth a wild dangerous animal.
Reality is often scarier than fiction
Reality is often disappointing
Reality can be whatever I want
It’s kind of sad
Reality and life is bad now a days since wars escalate and more problems cause people to turn against others life is a beautiful lie while death is the horrible truth
Nope, somebody else here in the comment section already said the quote but there's a quote "reality is often disappointing" is far more fitting for reality, yes truly sick shit and sick people exist on our world but have you ever sat down and really thought about how terrifying some concepts from certain novels are like the Cthulhu Mythos, or even modern web series like the monument Mythos, imagine being forcefully swapped from one Universe to to another and forced to live with people who are Vaguely Familiar to your loved ones but you know they're not them
I agree, siding with PETA is a feat. They are almost extremists when it comes to animals, but for them to condemn that foundation was a good idea.
Even a broken clock is right at least once a day.
It’s twice a day but sure
They are extremists when it comes to animals.
...I do not disagree with PETA on this thing.
@@evanlight2550 Twice a day might be a lot for peta
Poor Travis.. people see him as this savage monster when his only crime was having a mental illness from being stuck in an unnatural lifestyle. He obviously had emotions, he just shouldn't've been living a life like that.
You know I find the second story particularly interesting because you expect the pet to be the one that attacks but no.
Also i still can’t believe the only person who did something sensible got arrested
Travis was
-kept inside all day
-fed nothing but junk food
-not allowed to socialize majority of his life
-fed fucking Xanax
-and he ain’t got no bitches
This dude was a ticking time bomb
4 out of 5 of those sounds like the average league of legends player
@@c.d.rstudios4691 LOL gamers don't usually chew people's faces off, tho.
@@Tokuijin That's because they're too out of shape to do it, I'm pretty sure some of the people I've met while playing games would try if they could lol.
this entire thread 😂
@@Tokuijin ripping people's faces off wasn't in the 5 listed above
The thought of keeping primates as a pet or be in close contact with one unnerves me and maybe for a good reason. Mostly its because they have a resemblance to us but with more hair and solve problems better than some humans.
"Makes a special kind of people to make Peta the good guy" mate that's gold.
And they probably have at least 10 times the amount of strength a normal human has...
Legit the only possible way an ape could be a pet is by intensive selective breeding like the Russians did with foxes. You canNOT plop a totally wild animal in a home and say it's a pet.
@@DinnerForkTongue Donno, maybe but the more intelligence an animal has, the more you have to interact with it and give it enough enrichment. I have two huskies and their more than enough as it can be like having two toddlers in the house.
You're right to be unnerved. Chimpanzees are some of the most uniquely monstrous animals in nature; they are intelligent enough to understand cruelty, and actively use it to cow "lower ranked" chimps and especially their females. They're a lot like us, but with less restraint and quieter consciences.
@@TigerTigerson
Go away, bot
"now, alot of people blame Sandra for the event... and i'm one of them" had me rolling on the floor xD
I lived in Anchorage, Alaska. Back around 1981 or so, there was a classified newspaper ad selling a chimpanzee for $100. For a brief moment, it seemed like a good idea. Thank goodness I never followed up on that ad.
One of the worst crimes against an animal performer I've ever heard of is the sad tale of Sultan, the tiger that played Ra, the black tiger from the movie Beastmaster.
Sultan was actually a plain old regular vanilla box-standard tiger, but the filmmakers wanted him to look more unique, or I guess you could say "cooler" so they dyed the big cat actor black. Wouldn't be so bad except the dye they used was toxic and caused the big cat's health to deteriorate until he passed away two years later...
Moral of the story:
1. Hollywood executives are pure evil.
2. If you want a tiger in your movie, don't mess with the fur colour! The fact it's a tiger commands respect enough!
thats f up. plus they could have just used cgi or smth ://///
@@briciolaa This was the 80's. CGI was non existent. Stop motion, maybe, but defintiely not CGI
@@cjtheprop-maker ohh oop didnt know that. i thought it was more recent!! still super sad
@@cjtheprop-maker, actually, it wasn't mainstream. One of the first Pixar shorts dates back to the 80s
@@cjtheprop-maker There was CGI, but it was in its infancy.
It was used just to experiment with animation. Like how the guy said down below, Pixar was around but their animation is still crude in comparison nowadays.
Let's not forget Industrial Light & Magic, that was created by George Lucas to push the animation of digital effects further.
It was used sparingly in certain films like Young Sherlock Holmes, The Abyss and several others.
I didn't know Suzie was Travis's mother. That adds a whole new layer of tragedy to these stories. They should have been living in the wild together, or at the very least a real sanctuary, and instead.... heartbreaking.
czcams.com/video/CWfd8OjWkwg/video.html
This is what happened
Did you ever hear the story about what happened to Harambes family way before he was ever shot and killed? Look it up. It's tragic.
To make it even worse. Travis was separated from her when he was only a few days old.
@@pisces2569 Unfortunately that's not surprising with wild animals in those types of settings. The breeders and handlers do it to start human imprinting on the babies. Another example is that Joe Exotic would separate tiger cubs from their mothers shortly after being born (which is another reason to not like seeing wild animals as pets).
@@sari-kitty it really was tragic she was killed for no reason she was only curious.
Gotta love the channel for the fact that you're not describing actions of wild animals as crazy or otherwise abnormal but simply them being what they are and doing what they do by nature.
People really like to forget that the only abnormal act of a wild animal is when it treats a human like their friend.
Especially after everything that humanity has done to those animals in the past, I just can't help but think that absolutely every animal dislikes us by default (and rightfully so).
This will probably make going to sleep more difficult... but I'd rather hear animal _facts_ than go around spouting ignorance.
Thanks, as always, for sharing with us.
So they arrested someone for defending not only themself, but his friends (including his dog), but decided to tranquilize a chimpanzee when they get more pissed off by it? Yeah, I can see why this is the only time i side with PETA
Yeah I thought tranquilizing them makes them more angry before they finally get knocked out by them? 100% side with Jason on this
Rare PETA W.
As they say "a broken clock is right twice a day".
Harambe.
Yeah, I’m with Jason on this, I’m just glad he didn’t try to fight it head on, otherwise his *ahem* “skin chandelier” wouldn’t still be attached. He was imo 100% in the right, and am so glad he was able to save his friends and his puppy
Some “fun” facts about the bear guy, Tim that op didn’t mention, and got a little wrong:
1.) It wasn’t Rangers who found their bodies, it was a pilot who flew Tim back and forth to the bears, and their bodies weren’t alone when he found them, they were still being eaten.
2.) Tim knew the bear that killed them, and he didn’t like the bear. I believe he nicknamed it Grumpy, because he was an old bear, and didn’t care for Tim. Grumpy was also missing teeth, and the ones he wasn’t missing were just stumps.
3.) Going off of #2, because Grumpy’s teeth were so bad, he couldn’t kill Tim and his gf as fast as other healthier bears could, which means Tim’s and his gf’s deaths were slow and painful.
4.) In the recording (transcription) Tim told his gf to run, but she refused and tried to help him as he was attacked first. It would have been futile for her to run though as there was nowhere to go. They were too deep in the woods where the only way in or out was a small plane with a small runway in the middle of nowhere, and she didn’t have the radio.
5.) When the pilot found their bodies Grumpy was chewing on Tim’s rib cage, and he had already buried some of their remains for later.
5.) Grumpy was killed and their body parts were exhumed for burial, but not all of them were found. So little was found that altogether they could fit into one casket.
.) This could have been avoided had Tim decided to leave when he originally wanted to because they were there during bear’s preparation for hibernation where they become desperate to eat as much as possible, and Grumpy with his messed up teeth was especially desperate.
About the slow death the bear could stilm end you quickly with its claw or weight
@@Blaze-xe8cl true, but that’s not what happened to them.
Also, didn't the girlfriend not want to go on the trip in the first place? Such a tragedy all around.
@@alexanderk.6869 she was only interested because he was, and she loved him.
@@alexanderk.6869 Ah, yes! The girl is always the victim of the case! Nah, she's a grown up adult. She should have checked her bad boy fetishes and not follow a guy who tries to suicide. We all pay for our mistakes. Some times, they price is TOO HIGH!
I feel so bad for Travis tbh, and any inclosed wild animal for that matter. They don't know anything, they've been raised differently then what they're supposed to be raised and then they start feeling a certain way which they can't express since they're in a house. Then they get killed and they don't even know what they did wrong...
I feel far more pity for his victim:-(
I waited to watch Nope before playing this video. Finally saw it today. This was worth the wait. I only knew a few of these stories (Travis, Roy, and the bear guy). There are too many damn people trying to tame wild animals that kill things for a living.
Always frustrates me when people act shocked and horrified when big cats... act like cats. Like people clearly haven't lived with cats if they think a tiger wouldn't do the same thing a cat could but 50x worse. I'm covered in cuts and scars from owning cats, can't imagine what one twice my size could do on its own off days.
how the hell can you NOT expect it when domestic animals do shit like that all the time?
This is what being detached from natural order does to people.
Big cats are different to chimps. And big cats are different (tigers, caracals... Etc)
If the cat is domesticated (preferably from young) they are perfectly fine. You probably only had small cats in your life and that's okay
@@GuyfromEarth3000 except, big cats don't domesticate.
@@olympic-gradelurker wrong
@@GuyfromEarth3000 ??? I am literally talking about domestic cats and comparing them to big cats.
Big cats are not domesticated. They can not BE domesticated, even if you have them from cubhood. They may become tame, but even then, they are still wild animals, and still cats.
Domestic cats and big cats will do a lot of the same things. Which includes scratching and biting as a result of perceived slights and stressors. Like explained in the video, the likely explanation behind Roy's tiger going at him, is that he changed the routine without warning. In a domestic cat, that may result in spraying, appetite loss, moodiness, etc. You can expect much the same with a big cat, except this tiger is also in front of a live audience (lots of noise and people) with music and people speaking on mic (lots of noise and chaos) which is going to result in a much bigger reaction - so, straight to the aggression. The tiger even gave him warning in the same way a domestic cat may have, through bites that are not meant to hurt (though being a tiger, they will).
The comparison goes this way - if a domestic cat will do it, expect a big cat to. If a domestic cat bites from stress, expect a big cat to. Anything harmful a domestic cat does, any wild cat will also do, but it will be 10x worse. If my domestic cat bites me, it's one thing - it won't kill me. If my "pet" tiger does it, that's a life-threatening issue.
So when people are shocked that a tiger they raised from cubhood actually bites, that's horseshit behaviour on their part from thinking they could not only take the wild out of an animal, but the cat out of a cat. Tigers will bite. Not a question of if, but when. Wild animals will be wild. They will shit, piss, bite, scratch, kick, scream, and do every natural thing they do in the wild no matter how "tame" you think they are.
Yep. We were friends with the family of the woman who was attacked. Thankfully her brain protected her, she can't remember what happened because it was so traumatic her brain forcefully shut off those memories forever. She's been well taken care of by the family of those who owned the chimp financially, they are paying for everything. She's thankfully happy and living a good life.
How can you live a good life with a face like that and being in pain all the time???? People really underestimate such physical wounds and pain.
@@Apricot90 did you not watch the video
@@im4ft622 I did, why?
@@Apricot90 it was said in the vid that she doesnt feel pain anymore. but yeah that doesnt mean she didnt go through pain at all, along with the other complications she has.
sorry if my previous comment came off as rude haha
I don't doubt that she is well cared for, but she is blind, received a face transplant (different from the movie-magic version), and lost/lost use of her hands, which forces a very different vision of "a good life" on someone.
"Chimp activity followed" is a CHILLING sentence...
I remember being excited that I got the reference in theaters, and telling my folks about it. Later I watched an interview where Jordan Peele talked about a specific scene as an indictment of our fascination with gruesome spectacles, and realized I was the type of person being criticized. What a fantastic movie, seriously. It does so fucking much on so many levels.
The last story made me especially mad. That man was defending his home and his family from a group of savage primates, and they reward him by putting him in jail and even preventing him from attending the birth of his first child. If that ain't backwards logic, I don't know what is.
Welcome to America.
It takes a special kind of stupid for this to happen
But it takes a special kind of fucking dumbass to sentence that man to jail. I am convinced that the sole reason, was the company that owned the chimps having enough money, greed and pure whole grain condensed stupidity led to this, just like in so many other cases, that make my damn blood boil
Sorry, i may have gone a bit too far
You can’t own endangered and exotic pets in Australia without very strictly controlled licenses- theres never been a chimp or tiger attack here outside of a zoo
@@beardofknowledge3792 “welcome to capitalism” actually! (Though that and America are probably one in the same lol!)
I completely agree. And whoever made that theory about how that man shot the chimp after the "chimp was tranquilized and was no longer a threat" must not understand that chimps only get angrier after getting tranquilized. They're literally always a threat unless they're completely knocked out. Also, that man literally did nothing to deserve what he got. That stupid Chimp Party service should've been punished, not the man.
That transition from "Telling his friends how much fun he was having" to "Rangers found his multilated corpse" gave me chills
What how 400 likes and zero comments
@@Kumala215 There's not much else to say. And it's better the replies stay empty than be filled with five thousand ways of saying "I agree".
Not just mutilated, half if it was no longer present.
Yeah, I remember the Tredwell(?) documentary called Grizzly Man, and they pretty much said that he and his girlfriend got brutally merced by the bears. Even as a kid, I didn't feel bad for them getting their Darwin Awards. My dad was lucky the bear he encountered in the wild was scared of him as he was of it, and they just fled from each other. Anyone with a single brain cell knows not to fuck with the wild animals that can make you past tense.
being denied therapy post trauma is crazyyyy
Side note: I wonder if humans being creeped out by an almost human smile is because it is a sign on aggression in chimpanzees and it's a survival instinct
I'd say it's because generally, we see smiles as a friendly gesture, when a chimpanzee does it, it's always a little off, and we know that it's that it's a sign of malace and not a sign of friendliness
@@c.d.rstudios4691 And probably also because it falls right in the uncanny valley. It's _almost_ human but ever so slightly... off.
But yeah, most likely, as you said, our subconscious recognises that the smile is one filled with malice and anger.
That's... A really good theory
Well humans supposedly evolved from primates like chimps so it's probably instinct, a species can evolve all it wants but as Alan Grant said in Jurassic Park you can't just supress hundreds and/or thousands etc. years of gut instinct
I think its because we smile a specific way via stretching our lips up and with our eyes squinted. Other animals smile differently via by lifting their lips up (most animals like dogs do this) and eyes wide, so instinctually, we know its not right
Its also why we also get freaked out if we see people smiling too much with their eyes wide open, because we just know its not the nice kind. We're wired to pick up when some expression isn't normal despite it being something that should be. Wide eyes tend to be a sign of surprise/fear or aggression with us, so when its paired with something comforting like a smile it doesn't look right.
Its also why we freak out when any expression in general is being exaggerated or mixed up in some way, its goes against what we're instinctually wired to recognize and connect with some feeling. Lets say you have relaxed lips but wide eyes and relaxed brows and stare at someone like that, it'll look unsettling because your expression is giving unreadable/different signals and it'll just immediately just get labeled as a sign of threat/danger.
I sincerely believe that part of being a true animal lover is having an appreciation for every side of them... Which includes respecting the danger they bring.
Honestly, respect here is such an important word. You have to RESPECT nature and animals, not just do whatever you want. Animals are fascinating, wonderful beautiful, and dangerous. So are humans, just as any animal, but we like to ignore all that and think ooooo pretty monkey. I’m not saying nobody can enjoy nature, but if you’re going to, you better respect it
Well said. It's honestly a kind of condescending view of wild animals when people view them as just cute, not recognising that they are wild animals with their own instincts and intentions, and sometimes their intention is to harm humans, hence why humans should always keep their distance. I mean, even domesticated animals can be dangerous, but with wild animals, that danger and unpredictability is amped up to 11.
Exactly everyone online loves to say oh my god this dangerous wild killing machine is so cute. Oh my God I want to pet it. It just needs a hug. No he needs to get out of this cage. It’s locked in and wants to go fucking roam around Africa not be locked in a fake confinement area and then people say I would love to own it. It’s so cute are the same type of people to be mailed and be faceless. Because they are so dumb they can’t recognize it’s a WILD ANIMAL🤦🏽♂️
Props to Roy for telling them not to kill the tiger as he was literally bleeding/stroking out. Tigers gonna tiger, he understood that.
I read a bit more about the whole Timothy Treadwell incident
And the worst part about it is the fact that the death could've been COMPLETELY AVOIDED EVEN WITH HIM GOING TO THAT CAMPSITE
Treadwell actually planned to leave and go back to California earlier but and I quote from the Wikipedia article about his death: "After an argument with the airline ticketer over the price of altering his return ticket, Treadwell and Huguenard made the decision to return to their campsite on September 29 for an additional week."
I love this guy. Now that school is back I can ruin everyone’s favorite animal. The look in their faces when I tell them stuff is hilarious
you evil evil human.
same
I do this all the time, the look on my old teachers face when I told them that llamas spit out half digested food was *priceless!*
That's a real A*hole thing to do, yet funny.
@our hero fr???? is It FINALLY here???? 90% of the entire earth has been waiting for this THANK YOU, YOU ARE OUR HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesss im with you for ruining 👏 every 👏 single 👏 ONE
An additional note to this already horrific story. Travis was given a dose of anti-depressants by his caregiver, Sandra, without a doctor's/vet's evaluation.
So Sandra just gave doses based off of her own beliefs on what she thought he needed. It's speculated that the attack on Sandra's friend, Charla Nash, was caused by Travis having heavy, negative side effect to the meds, causing hysteria.
Sandra was negligent and had the choice to call for professional help when Travis was having his breakdown. Instead, she called Charla to help her control Travis. Sad fact, supposedly Charla often felt uneasy around Travis and only helped as much as she did over the years to support her friend, Sandra.
Charla Nash lost both her eyes and cannot see anymore. The eyes you see in her most recent photos are glass eyeballs.
If you listen to the 911 call when this attack was occurring, it was incredibly haunting. The screams of Charla in the background while Sandra was losing it over the phone.
Rest in peace to Travis and a long, peaceful life for Charla. I pray that no one ever does what Sandra does, ever again.
She had beyond forgot she was dealing with a wild animal and had completely personified him into a, well, person. And ignored the signs of adoescents they knew and were warned about over and over again. She was essentially mentally ill and it was a grieving teenage chimp on xanax. Just sad all around.
Nice sentiments but don't worry they will
It's just so tragic, because there were so many points where Sandra could have prevented it from happening, but she just didn't, and Charla and Travis paid the price.
Its perfectly possible that the meds had nothing to do with the attack, and Travis decided he didnt like this person for whatever reason. Maybe she forgot to say hi once. I only say this to discourage people from having pet chimps, even if they wont be drugging them. Their capacity for violence is not something you want to roll the dice on.
Don't worry, it gets worse.
I remember all of these, the last audio recording of Timothy Treadwell when he was being attacked/mauled is so haunting and sends chills down my spine.. People need to leave wild animals to their own devices and stop trying to make them pets. Neverr ends well. Love your vids btw! =)
I really like the level of thought you put into these more complex situations, you break it down without basis and it’s much appreciated.
It's insanity that the guy gunning down 3 chimps with murderous intent, possibly saving himself, his friends and his dog, got into trouble like the "expensive merchandise" as the chimps were being treated as, were more important then their potential lives.
I feel for the animals that got killed (sounds like they were severely mistreated by the party group), but I think any rational person person would do what he did or at least be understanding.
The fact that PETA were actually RIGHT in the last story is probably the biggest shock of this entire video.
You know it’s bad when PETA has the moral high ground on you.
Not really, PETA thinks humans should not have any animals at all, so it’s right in line with their normal dogma.
@The Stonefish with amount of animals they abuse and kill for their animals rights hard on, it would be for the worst for the animals involved
4:26 I remember hearing about that . That messed me up finding out a chimp was capable of tearing off a human, really any face, and why would anybody want that as a pet? I wept for Her. I'm glad she's better. It is complicated. Once you start giving an animal meds, you gotta know, it's only a matter of time. Plus, he was family. No one can really deny that. I understand putting down dogs and horses. I would think with a chimp, it's a little different
I watched that Gordy scene and it actually gave me chills what a terrifying yet extremely realistic scene of carnage and blood shead
My aunt was a showgirl in Vegas till the early 80s. She became very close to Sigfried and Roy because she had no fear and would pet the tigers like they were poodles. She says they loved their tigers, even the inbred ones that were too stunted to be trained. Of all the crazy stuff she experinced in those years she said she felt safer hanging with Sigfried and Roy's tigers than the guys in the casinos.
The lies Roy said were 100% trying to protect his tiger from being put down for the attack. He clearly loved his animals.
@@MaddieFrankX I do think he did the right thing in that situation. Sure, he lied a lot, but it was to protect something that could have easily killed him right then and there if it wanted to. Plus, I think he understood that the tiger wasn't really at fault.
I think that speaks volumes about those casino guys... 0_0
@@Scarshadow666 oh most definitely.
that says a lot about the guys in the casinos
Important life lessons: WILD ANIMALS ARE ONLY YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THERE IS A FENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THEM!!!
I mean no
Unless they're domesticated (as well as well-trained and genuinely cared for along with the domestication). While I personally love both cats and dogs (and have a sweet furbaby of my own), cats and dogs do tend to sometimes cause harm to humans the most due to us having them in our homes for centuries, and it hasn't stopped billions of people to continue having them as pets.
@@Scarshadow666 I did say WILD animals
I like a thousand miles and a body of water
Unless they are
You know
A butterfly or some shit like that, then the advice is for the animal, lol.
you will never watch Curious George the same way again
George is a monkey, not a chimpanzee. Granted there are some monkeys out there that are the biggest a-holes, but their brutality is nothing compared to chimps.
Respect to the Tiger trainer for saying not to put the cat down at least. People will never learn there are certain animals that are never meant to be domesticated.
Honestly, I always felt uneasy seeing chimps in movies or shows wearing clothes and being treated like human kids. It just never sat well with me. I much preferred to learn about chimps by watching them in a wildlife documentary in their natural habitat. My gut feeling had been right all along.
And learning about chimps in their natural habitat is already uncanny, so that says a lot.
tbh i think thats part of the reason the chimp in Nope was CGI, using a real one would've been hypocritical. That and you probably couldn't safely teach a chimp to pretend to do the things they showed it doing in the movie
Yeah same here, I think they’re ugly and never understood why people think they’re cute
@@chammybooo3232 thought I was the only one lol. Honestly, not only is it cruel and stupid, they’re also so ugly
Idiots who believe the speculation that humans were monkeys also believes that if you treat monkeys like humans they will eventually learn and start behaving and communicating like humans.
Even as scary as the animals are due to their nature, I can’t help but feel bad for em being in situations they have no right being put in because of how much the blame often gets put on them rather than people being dumb. I’m glad over here we agree it’s people’s fault at least.
what about the cake story? is that still the human fault?
@@Dave_of_Mordor yeah if they had been properly informed they would’ve known that was a terrible idea the chimps were being chimps
I know right. But arent Jaguars dope!? I want one so bad!! I wont adopt one I know better. But they are so dope!!!
@@geekgirl616Are you kidding me?
@@ripKIKO-vj8ti Smart person...please keep knowing better. I was a zookeeper a long time ago, & was working in the zoo hospital (which is also where new animals are often quarantined) when a new jaguar was brought in. Her name was Missy & she'd grown up with a Hollywood animal trainer. She was very human socialized, but her trainer had given her up b/c big cats stay wild animals, no matter how young they're gotten by humans, & she'd gotten unpredictable. Missy's situation was heartbreaking; she was confined to a fairly small cage while waiting for her quarantine time to pass, & (like all the big cats, all the time) absolutely no one was allowed in with her. She couldn't understand why her former friends wouldn't play with her, & petting her thru the chain link was not satisfying to her. She never would be able to be with her own kind OR humans, for the rest of her life. Her life was a miserable mess, because humans tried to make her be something she could never be. (Chimps are even worse, "taming"-wise.) Ever time I think of that poor big cat, so lost, confused, & depressed, it makes me want to cry.
A pair of chimps tearing Davis to shreds is pretty horrific, but ALSO, I can't imagine how horrific it would be to go to a hospital, teetering on the edge of death, and have them just go, "nah!" and refuse to treat you like you were already a corpse. That's terrible.
with the bear guy the tape was given to his ex who he still was good friends with, and she's vowed to never listen to it, with a german documentary guy telling her she should destroy the tape after he listened to it