Praetorian of Dorn - Dorn kills Alpharius || Voice Over
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- A little more from the sons of Dorn, though this time back in the Heresy. The defeat of Alpharius at the Hands of Rogal Dorn, a truly sad moment which I don't feel gets much recognition beyond the conversations on 'strongest Primarchs'.
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A classic Dorn moment that's so often referred to in terms of which Primarch is the strongest but I don't see it mentioned quite as often in the list of brutally emotional moments. I feel it captures the Heresy incredibly well, the tragedy of the whole thing.
I am uncertain about the voice for Alpharius but, on that front, I could do a different voice for him in each video and it would be just as accurate!
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Obviously my voice would fit him best, for I am Alpharius. Or my dog, who is also secretly Alpharius. Or my boss at work, who is *also* Alpharius. Or you, who has actually been Alpharius this whole time.
This is epic and I like the you get any voice is alparesu( I'm drunk not even trying atm my bad) this I think is the perfect fight I mean why would he thing dorn would do anything else but this was the point or human and I love it
@bobbilly3606 would have started as I blank would of course.....add here......and here.....and here ..here oh!.. here and here
Alpharius: 'hey brother I have important information for you!'
Dorn: 'TOO MANY YEARS TOO LATE FUCKASS'
Fuckass is my new favourite term
Dorn's actual superpower: Immunity to monologuing
Alpharius : hey dorn lets talk
Rogal Dorn : sorry i cant hear you over storms teeth
“WHAT?!”
“I sa-“
(Disemboweled)
Alpharius: Dorn let's talk this out.
Dorn: No.
No, your actions speak louder than Storm's teeth
The tragedy is that this might have been Alpharius legitimately telling the truth as the twin that wanted to kill Chaos, and he died here for it
I think this is one of the best fights the BL has written, not so much for the fight itself, but for how well it represents the combatants. Only Alpharius would have had the conceit to trap another primarch, much less Dorn, and try to talk to him. Only Dorn would have given his brother absolutely no deference and fought without hearing or even arguing against him. Unless I'm mistaken, we haven't heard from Alpharius for a while. He may well have figured out something real, something that might actually have been able to avert the inevitable. Nobody will ever know because Dorn was obviously having none of that. It was a great way for the writers to kick off the Solar War proper.
You haven't heard from Alpharius because he died on pluto leaving his twin alone
I don't think Alpharius figured anything out, I think he believed that the big E wanted chaos destroyed above everything, and he saw in the future that this would happen if Horus won.
Because he knew that if the traitors won, chaos would fade within a millenia, so why else fight for them?
Because hes dead and omegon is the only one alive
@strangelove7 That's not what he meant. He meant prior to the solar war Alpharius was MIA and we had no clue what he was doing up to that point.
Died? I don't remember dying...
I am Alpharius.
i swear id listen to an entire audible book of you reading, got a good story telling voice
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Man that's actually pretty sad, alpha legion is all about espionage and he kept trying to tell Dorn something but he wouldn't listen, what if he was actually a loyalist spy the whole time?
Then he should have known better than to approach dorn of all people with his info,
When Sigismund is given the black sword, its like he's been given a fraction of Dorn's absolute certainty and fortitude. Where it makes no odds what their opposition is saying (or trying to say), there is only one thing Dorn or Sigismund wants to say, they say it with their blades edge and their enemies blood.
Ngl I always saw him as a fool who took the word of the Cabal and was too blind to know that Dorn was there to kill him Omegon> got my respect because that’s one tough situation to deal with and he still stayed somewhat Loyal to Big E
Yes. He is without doubt the most useless primarch. He had foreknowledge of the heresy. He could have gone to the emperor. But he thought he was too smart.
@@bengeorge9063not quite
Take it from the perspective.
If it was the first founding… well, he would’ve known the full history.
If it was the second found later- he would have not had full context.
So…
In summary if this is the 1st it is a dumb move.
If it is the 2nd it is an attempt to talk to Dorn and show that it isn’t working, his way is better.
In summary an attempt to out do his brother who had longer history with the emporium .
So yeah, them not sharing every story for pretty obvious reasons would lead to one of their deaths.
Imagine having a twin.
Now your best friend who is still mad that you’ve ruined his marriage by sleeping with his wife while drunk has your twin meeting him after a few years… at the hardware store.
“Oh hey me and Dorn have bad blood or he thinks we do, so he won’t really listen if you do work around him”
-not really an important detail as that really isn’t going to be the case because of said bad blood or the refusal to work together… add to the fact the heresy is underway.
@@silent_stalker3687 I believe Omegon (who was secretly the last primarch found and was a traitor, but also sought to destroy Chaos) was the one who died on Pluto, masquerading as Alpharius.
Alpharius (who was secretly the first primarch found, and was a loyalist), who had masqueraded as Omegon up to this point, was forced to take/re-take Omegon's place as Alpharius when he sensed Omegon was killed.
@@DT-267Kthat is pretty much how most people see it. But its nice that they left such things open for interpretation.
I'm still on the opinion that the fallen twin is Omegon, especially due to the nature how the fight with Dorn went verbally.
During the Great Crusade Omegon was scrutinized by Dorn and Guilliman of his conquests as too easy or as too heavy casualty numbers, regarding which was the previous complaint.
As far as I remember, we don't have scene where Aplharius and Omegon would had changed their identities back, meaning that Omegon would be Alpharius.
Considering what he says to Dorn while the fight foes on, knowing that he's wearing Omegon's custom armor and his spear, I would say it's at leasst somewhat reasonable assumption to make. That would leave Omegon (the actual Alpharius) being left alone, falsifying his death (as she bright flash Primarch's death results, was never mentioned unlike at Pluto station) and scattering his Legion until it's his time to return.
We know there is Alpha legionnaired under the Imperial Palace in Terra, whom only needs an activation code to be either loyal or traitor. Alpharius's reason of existence was to be the contingency plan were the Empire fall and was raised in total secrecy.
Now that Lion and Guilliman are back and Harrowmaster is doing his thing as modern Alpha legionnaire, I just strongly feel that it is time for Alpharius to return, activate those Heresy- era legionnaires and start to wreak havok on Harrowmaster.
We need that espionage style of approach to the setting more, especially now that Alpha legion has got much more lore around them that could be basis for the return of the Loyal Alpha Primarch.
But that's just my crackpot Hydra Dominatus mind going full throttle, hoping and possibly coping for the proper return of my favorite Legion/faction or whatever you choose to call them.
Your voice for Alpharius is exquisite.
Oh no Dorn can't hear him he has airpods in!
Chef’s Kiss narration from one of my top two HH novels. 👌
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Great writing, fantastic narration.
Thank you very much!
Wow, this is awesome. You have an incredible voice!
My many thanks! That means a lot!
Absolute classic moment
I like the conversation Dorn has with Alpharius earlier in the book after a compliance. The Alpha Legion, acting independently, had essentially completely dismantled the planet's ruling class through espionage and assassinations creating widespread disorder throughout the hives and Dorn thinks it had cost them true compliance. It almost makes me think that the Alpharius' entire motivation throughout the Praetorian of Dorn is just petty revenge because Rogal once threw a better version of the Alpha Legion's strategy right into his face just ruin Alpharius' victory. "Impressive but you coulda done it better".
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What an amazing video and amazing voice.
Thank you very much!
One of the better heresy books tbf. The opening where all the alpha legion cells are coming online, being dug up etc is amazing. Dips a bit when it mainly goes to follow the 2 imperial fists with the personality’s of a bowl of porridge
Alpharius thought that he was so smart & tricky... Dorn was very open about the fact that he could always tell who Alpharius was, Alpharius never believed him which is why he thought that trick would work to allow a conversation. Dorn wasn't interested in a conversation and just slaughtered Alpharius like it wasn't really that big of deal... let Alpharius play his tricks thinking it is winning, then catching the haft of the spear to cut off Alpharius hands before chopping him up further.
Leman Russ also knew who alpharius and omegon truly were, some primarchs knew but others truly didn’t, that’s why omegon is probably the loyalist, probably impersonating cypher, alpharius was just way to arrogant and thought he could do this to show them this is what chaos is going to be doing
@Blackdynamite41 Omegon only stayed "loyalist" to Alpharius "traitor" as a counterbalance... I mean Omegon foiled some major Alpha Legion operations before Alpharius was executed. But after that then Omegon slipped into being Alpharius & adopted those positions once he felt his twins death.
@Blackdynamite41 He did a repeat of what he did to the Emperor with the mock assassination. He always was too arrogant and always thought he could play both sides and be right in doing so. He could've been a spy and destabilized chaos but instead he got lost in his own agenda and was playing 4d chess by himself and everyone has a plan until they take a Chain blade to the skull.
Just like he assumed to know what The Emperor would want him to do. He could've stopped the heresy and prevented the Istvan Massacre. He could've foiled countless plans but he took it upon himself to do what he thought was right and was surprised when his schemes didn't work exactly as he planned them
@maltheri9833 Alpharius was committed to having Chaos "win" since he was totally sold on The Cabal plan of sacrificing humanity as a means to burn the unnatural Chaos corruption out of the Warp. Alpharius was NEVER a Loyalist since he was by far the biggest traitor of them all... none of the others wanted to wipe out humanity, that alone was Alpharius then by extension Omegon when he took on the Alpharius role following Alpharius execution.
Love that he was still talking. What did he say? What was his true message.
I mean, do any of us think this was his final ruse?
Whatever his last message was wouldn't matter as Dorn wasn't listening regardless. His last ruse didn't matter because his legion had 0 effect on the outcome. Omegon lives and they're basically the same person and they've helped Chaos and infiltrated loyalists and helped them as well. Their overall effect could be as minimal or as massive as GW wants to say
Don't believe in that lies, citizen.....because I'm Alpharius
Yes. The most useless Primarch.
@@bengeorge9063You mean Lorgar.
I'm a huge fan of the Alfa legion, but I'd have to agree that they self sabotage themselves or overshoot more often than not
I never understood why dorn didn't tell his brothers about this
Shame, regret. A combination of both.
because thats what alpharius wants.
He did not enjoy doing this . He is ashamed that his brothers turned and he was forced to kill one . He just did what needed to be done and doesn't want to talk about it . Dorn barely ever talks unless absolutely necessary . He didn't even speak to his own legion when they first met . So him not talking about it fits perfectly with his personality
@@commissaryarrick9670 it was a damn important information to keep for himself alone though, they were in the middle of a war there and even after the Heresy the secret of Alpharius' death might had had some consequences, for example if the Battle of Eskrador was an actual event it would had been extremely important for Guilliman to know that Alpharius was dead and someone else must had been leading the Alpha Legion there.
Wouldn’t surprise me of Alpharius was the first leader of the order of assassins for the imperium.
Not too far-fetched an idea. Alpharius played a version of the Blood Games with the Custodes while he was raised by Big E on Terra. He succeeded in at least a couple of his play-attempts to assassinate the Emperor, proving himself quite capable with misdirection and espionage.
For context, Alpharius was secretly the first primarch to be found, whose pod (which had functionally been split in half during the Chaos Gods' attempted theft when they and Big E played tug of war with this last pod, hence Omegon incidentally coming into existence when the other half of Alpharius' Warp essence cultivated into a form of his own upon landing on his own world) had landed in the mountains just outside the location of Emp's lab.
*BUT BUTTTT VICTORY* ??????
"IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE 42ND MILLENNIUM. THERE CAN BE NO VICTOR."
It was a decoy! That wasn't the REAL Alpharius!
That's not true. I am Alpharius
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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apparently alpharius is alive and omegon dies here instead. alpharius is alive in 40k!
Hard to tell since Alpharius died several times during the heresy
@@tzeentchlordoffates9268 the alpha legion book set out there lore pretty straight forward!
Other way around
@@joshley1320did you read the primarch book? Omegon was posing as alpharius. It’s the alpha legion nothing is face value. Omegon sided with Horus and alpharius eventually decides against his brother, and goes with the option where the emperor wins but slowly dies. Alpharius was the first to be found on terra, while omegon was found on that world with the Hrud and last to be found. He’s loyal to the throne but his legion is largely not.
@@cottermcg123 I believe Omegon was indeed part of the traitors, but was opposing Big E for the purposes of ending Chaos, as the Cabal had explained to him, whether the concept coming to fruition could be proven real or not. And wasn't it slaugth, not hrud? I could be mistaken there.
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I heard some people grumble that John French is like Matt Ward for the Imperial Fists yet somehow gets away with it.
TBH he does actually make the IF Look cool which is a feat unto itself.
French is solid... it's ADB that's the successor to Ward which is the fact that everyone really seems to hate is true
Who does ABD make into Mary sues though?
@joesheridan9451 Alpha Legion & Night Lords... where do you think all this Alpharius stuff comes from? (Which is a very recent phenomenon much like the Custodes hardons everyone seems to have lately.)
@@nationalsocialism3504 Your talking absoloute shite. In the nightlords books they are constantly getting beat up and on the backfoot and he shows that they are the most cowardly legion with the least honour... And despite that he made tons of people still like them. That's the absolute opposite of Matt Ward you clown.
And I'm pretty sure ADB has not written a single book about the alpha legion lol...
I am Alpharius
Brother, i have something to tell you. _I am omegon._
Thumbs up
Im Am Alpharius and this is a Lie.
Are you the voice actor for Meyer Link?
As in, the Vampire Hunter D Meier Link? I am not, but I will absolutely take the compliment if that is so, I love Vampire Hunter D!
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@danielquintonvo That was who I really referring to. You sound a *lot* like him.
Say "Char-Lot" for me... *squint*
@@koholintisland2167 That is a DEEP cut, loved the books, loved the 2nd movie so much
@@richmondvand147 This guy sounds JUST like him
I always wondered why Dorn wouldn’t listen to Alpharius but he was willing to respond to Fulgrim?
He hated him and knew he was a liar plus all he said to fulgrim was “no” wasn’t it
@@joshley1320 I mean a bit more than that. He responded to Fulgrim saying he wanted to kill Horus but would settle for Fulgrim. How he knew about the plan set up by Abbadon and the others. While on the other hand Alpharius is at face value goading him playing off his anger to try to get him to strike but at the same time telling him the only reason he attacked where he did was to show Dorn where the weaknesses in the Sol System defenses were. After being able to stew on it my personal opinion is now that he didn’t respond or really listen as I think his anger got the better of him in this instance.
@@DocLeQuack oh okay sorry my friend
@@DocLeQuack that is probably the reasons dorn has a habit of just not talking whilst fighting because he doesn’t really want to kill his brothers and listening to them might make him stutter so he just turns of everything and kills
ur crazy, Dorn insulted and humiliated Fulgrim.
I wanna just state this:
Dorn ALLEGEDLY kills Alpharius.*
That was Omegon, not Alpharius
Not gonna lie….pretty underwhelming