What overseas doctors should know about training in UK (pediatrics, neonatology). Dr Alok Sharma
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2021
- In this video, Dr Alok Sharma, who is a consultant Neonatologist and Lead for the overseas training initiative of the RCPCH, UK provides valuable insight into the training options for overseas trained pediatricians in neonatology and other sub-specialties in UK. Do post any questions in the comments section below. Do share with any colleague who might be interested in a period of time spent training overseas (this applies to any field of medicine, not just pediatrics).
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You can contact Dr Alok on draloksharma74@gmail.com
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In a nutshell you both covered many topics, it was very helpful.
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Thank u Dr Kalyan sir n Dr Alok sir...
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Very informative. Thank you
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Well appreciated
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Thank you so much for this initiative. He cleared so many points, it was so precise. I do have some follow up questions though. Dch and Sec DNB is more than 36 months of paediatrics training. So that plus the MRCPCH exams - will that be enough for me to enter at ST level?
Yes. But it involves a selection process and interviews
Thank you for the information you shared. I have a few follow up questions. I’ve completed my DCH in India so which would be the best option to choose from MRCPCH or PLAB?
Hi, both options are ok, depends on whether you want to work in UK sooner (plab) or you prefer to stay where you are longer (mrcpch)-you need to complete all parts to get plab exemption
Thanks Drs for speaking in detail about Pediatrics in UK
My question here is, i am DCH and doing my DNB pediatrics at present, i look forward for training in neonatology or pediatric gastroenterology in UK from 2022, can you please guide here?
Hi, it was covered by Dr Alok, but the DNB part would need clarification. His email is provided in the information below the video, try emailing
Good evening sir. The talk was very useful and informative. As dr. Alok sir has mentioned that some posts could be converted to mti. How to apply for those posts and what are the specific kind of the posts which can be converted sir?
Good evening, Dr Alok should be more familiar as I work in UAE now, please email him (shared in video info)
Extremely helpful video sir. Thank you.
Is it possible to go for pediatrics superspeciality in UK after completing my MD in India, without clearing the mrcpch exam? For example through the MTI route?
Yes, it is possible. But most trainees end up doing the mrcpch to further their options there (like further training)
@@SridharKs Thanks for replying sir. Can you please guide US briefly about how to apply for such a pediatric subspecialty through MTI?
@@nishantgopal you have to follow what Dr Alok says. I am not in UK
Sir I am a recent mbbs graduate confused between doing md pediatrics here and then giving Mrcpch, or else to go through the plab route. I haven't done any publications or presentations in my ug. So I'm worrying whether it will affect my chance of getting a pediatric residency in UK. Would love to get your opinion sir.
If you have the option to do MD or DNB there in India before you move to UK, it is more secure as you have a qualification. MRCpch is not a qualification and CCT is a long route and is not guaranteed
Thank you sir for your kind words and wisdom. Sir my question is i am currently PG1 in anaesthesiology in india but interested in pursuing pediatrics in uk. Which pathway will be most suitable for me to pursue this as my career option in UK?
If you are starting training fresh, you need to take the PLAB route. But I would suggest completing this postgraduation even if not your first choice. As a security measure
@@SridharKs Thank you so much sir😊😊
So basically specialty training is a must even if you’ve done pediatrics post graduation in your home country ? Won’t that make things very long, I believe American peds residency can be completed during those same 3 years which is accepted in the uk ? I’d like your thoughts on this sir
Exactly. The US system is shorter and is well recognised worldwide as well-but if you are talking of super-specialisation, you need further 2-3 years fellowship in US while this can be built in. And in the UK, if you have MD and some local experience, you could join at ST3-4 level, which is practically another 4-5 years of training within which time you could complete Specialisation as well if lucky (as huge competition for grid posts)
what's MD??.I don't have a master degree if that's what u are asking.. . I am a doctor from Egypt with 4 years of experience and I finished part 1 of mrcpch and oet exam..is this enough for mti?
I think I replied earlier, please confirm
I have completed my DNB Paediatrics, preparing for mrcpch. Sir, how can I apply for a pediatric speciality fellowship course in UK?
Unfortunately such sub specialty fellowships are not as organized in UK as in Canada, Australia etc.
Sir
Very informatove video
Thank u very much sir
I completed my MD and one year of senior residency
I am interested to do a fellowship in neonatology and then practice in UAE after 3 years post MD
Can u please guide me to do a fellowship course in neonatlogy which is valid in UAE, dubai
I think I replied to your message possibly on the other video. Do you have any questions
Sir, after I clear my mrcpch to work in UK. Can I take my mother along with me? She is my only dependent
Hi, I am not sure about long term but you can sponsor 6 month visa straightaway
I have 24 months of training period done...can i still enter UK through PLAB pathway?
For plab route, basic qualification is adequate
Sir I am a post intern from india .I have completed my MBBS . I have a very big doubt regarding the degree in UK. Is there any degree in UK Equivalent to MD PAEDIATRICS AS IN INDIA.and if it is how do I go about it. Please reply sir !
Hi, you don't get degrees but you get CCT like certificate of completion of training-you will then be eligible to work as consultant in most parts of the world. The MRCPCH is like a qualifying exam in that journey, and it is around 8 years program if you enter the training (competitive)
How do you compare DM Neonatology and staying in India insted going for MRCPCH and settling in UK.😊
In the current scenario, the former is ok, lot of uncertainty in the latter
Sir I'm an M.D Pediatrics practicing in India at present and looking for neonatal fellowship options in UK . Could you please guide how can I get in touch with the hospitals. I would be highly grateful to you.
I personally don’t have connections but you could email Dr Alok, or look at advertisements in BMJ careers
@@SridharKs Thank you sir 🙏
If I apply for pediatric training through mti pathway then can I get a permanent gmc registration???
GMC registration changes from limited to full quite smoothly in any post. If you mean specialist registration to work as consultant, the answer is no
Can I enter subspeciality in pediatrics directly, after completing DNB/MD pediatrics India and clearing MRCPCH
You could work in a subspecialty post to gain experience but it may not offer completion of training or certification
Can we Work in subspeciality like child mental health,even without clearing MRCPCH for experience
@@drahamedshafiep8803 you would need PLAB in that case
GOOD DAY SIR ,,, I PASSED MRCPCH PART 1 (FOP&TAS) AND I HAVE OET ,, IS THAT ENOUGH TO BE ACCEPTED FOR MTI JOB ?
No. Have you done MD
@@SridharKs what's MD??.I don't have a master degree if that's what u are asking.. . I am from Egypt and I finished part 1 of mrcpch and oet exam..is this enough for mti?
@@ahmedsabor7643 no, you can take PLAB route and apply for vacancies on bmj career for SHO
Thank you drs.
My question to dr Alok is, what are the options for speciality training in the UK with MRCPCH followed by 4 years of experience?
Good morning. You could apply for the post advertised for that specialty and then the visa process he described. BMJ careers is a good place to look for adverts. I will pass your question to Dr Alok as well
You can apply for specialty training at ST4 when posts are advertised in December 2021
@@mprove-multiprofessionalne4091 iam post mrcpch with my gmc in process n 13 years of work experience ( included 2 years for maternity breaks) and have neonatology fellowship of a local body..can you pls guide me in self applying for the jobs myself ..
@@SridharKs sir bmj careers and any other websites?
@@drsowmyalakshmivenkatarama2291 there are many agencies as well, that recruit overseas doctors to NHS, you can look at my LinkedIn connections where a few such agencies are there. If you are looking at specific trusts, you would find adverts on their websites too, but most come up on BMJ careers
Sir, I have completed my MBBS and am planning to take up MRCPCH part 1 and I have a working contract with a pediatric hospital for 3 yrs ( not MD or DNB). Would that be considered as clinical experience?. Can I enter into ST 3 level after clearing all parts of MRCPCH. Also what if my visa ends before I get into St8 and complete the training? Kindly guide me sir
Hi, yes, this would be considered work experience. I believe the ST3 is based on competitive entry and visa rules keep changing so I am not sure
Sir I ve completed my MD followed by almost 5 years experience (senior residency plus junior consultant) have cleared my ielts.i was thinking of doing a mti fellowship in neonatology.i have plans on coming back after 2 years.Do you think this fellowship will help in career advancement /have value in the corporate sec in India if I am planning to come back to a metro /metro suburb region.have also cleared first 2 parts of mrcpch.last part pending..
It gives you a good overview of what life and work overseas is, and you would add value for sure
Review this as well An overview of life in the united kingdom (UK)-perspective of an overseas medic. Dr Sridhar K
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Thanks Sir
@@tugf688 Best of luck!
Can u please tell me how did u prepare for mrcpch?
Sir, I have done MBBS MD and DCH FRCP from RCPSG and I am associate member from RCPCH and Member of AAP now planning to do fellowship in neonatology pls can u guide me accordingly
Where do you live now? At Singapore? Did you consider fellowship at Canada or Australia
@@SridharKs Sir, I am Indian working in saudi Arabia as Paediatrician , before returning to my home country , I need to do some fellowship from abroad , So pls guide me sir , I applied for visiting fellowship in neonatology RCPCH twice , they rejected stating due to high applications , so pls help me to peruse degree and i am doing fellowship in neonatology from Medigrad online course for 6 month (I know it will not be very helpful )
@@indianbharathhindustani visiting fellowship is usually for academics. But as I mentioned, consider posts in Canada or Australia where fellowships are more structured
Hello Sir
I am interested in the mrcpch pathway
After completing dch from India
What I see is the competition ratio for st3 st4 post is quite high for higher speciality training
So would you say plab is a more secure route to enter peads training
I have heard that post mrcpch we can do non training jobs.are there enough jobs ?
Yes, if you aim to train there, getting into the system first definitely helps get a run through training in the next year or two. There should be job openings for non training posts if place is not an issue
Sir, I'm doing MD Paediatrics from India. After giving MRCPCH can I practice in the UK?
MRCPCH is more a training requirement in UK, you can work there after plab or with mrcpch (or through the route discussed in the video)
Sir any age limitations??
I think 40 years to enter training but not to work in career grade non training posts
@@SridharKs to enter for mrcpch? And how to apply for mti sir? Can u share some link or site?thank u
@@nihakhan1385 for MRCPCH, please review details on Rcpch site. What overseas doctors should know about training in UK (pediatrics, neonatology). Dr Alok Sharma
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