Rhotic vs Non Rhotic Accents

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  • čas přidán 14. 02. 2018
  • Jim Johnson covers the basics of rhotic vs non-rhotic - basically, do people "drop their Rs" when they speak: "hard" vs "hahd."

Komentáře • 344

  • @talkwhat366
    @talkwhat366 Před 5 lety +110

    The way you said "NOO- AWLINS" made my night. It gave me a reason to keep on living.

    • @jordanduplechin7676
      @jordanduplechin7676 Před 4 lety +12

      As a New Orleans native I appreciate that he said ‘Noo-awlins’ rather than ‘Nawlins’ which i didn’t really here there. My parents have the accent more than me. They laugh when I make fun of them saying ‘cardboard’ like ‘cawdbawd’

  • @LeighLouu
    @LeighLouu Před rokem +8

    LOL I love it! The way you did the NOLA accent and Cajun was perfect! My niece even said "he sounds like pawpaw!"

  • @motog6436
    @motog6436 Před rokem +6

    "some people make the Rs even harder"
    Thank you, this was the accent help I came here for

  • @nerenahd
    @nerenahd Před 7 měsíci +9

    In Brazil, we have three kids of R, depending on your dialect: 1) one that sounds like the northern USA dialects; 2) one that sounds like the French; 3) one that sounds like the rolled R from the italians and Spanish. It´s pretty funny when all of the 03 meet and talk to each other.

  • @ToddWCorey1
    @ToddWCorey1 Před 3 lety +14

    I've always been fascinated by language, accents, and dialects. I think I'm in the right place.

  • @emerlander
    @emerlander Před 4 lety +28

    It's awesome how you did the accents that you described! It was very useful. Thank you!

  • @leighmcdowell
    @leighmcdowell Před 2 lety +12

    Brilliant! Brief and to the point, but substantive and super informative. You got my subscription.

  • @SocialStudiess
    @SocialStudiess Před 3 lety +31

    I've been to England & love English history. I'm a first-generation American by way of Eritrea, Africa. I've been in the state since I was 18 months old and am closer to 40 now than I am 30. I've always found the rhotic and non-rhotic explanations very interesting. Understanding this has helped me with my ability to get other languages. Most languages seem to be non-rhotic languages and I see that a lot of foreigners in America struggle with English because of that. It always weirded me out how well and sharp the east Asians spoke English. As I got older, I paid attention to the sound in a lot of Chinese-based languages.
    They pronounce their R the same way Americans do. After I realized that. Their ability to speak English as crisp and clean as they do makes total sense to me. To be clear. What I mean about the East Asians and their way of speaking English is the first generation Asians that I went to school with. They spoke their native tongue at home with their parents like me and then spoke English everywhere else. The way in which they spoke English and the crisp sound of their English compared to mine and the other first-generation American kids is what always floured me. This was a great video. Thank you for making it.

    • @mint0zs
      @mint0zs Před rokem +3

      this was interesting, thanks for sharing

  • @plainlogic
    @plainlogic Před 5 lety +129

    2 southern accents are different. There is a plantation and hillbilly. In Alabama plantation is "ova thea" and hill Billy is "overr therre". Usually only the older people speak with the plantation accent.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety +30

      I tend to categorize those, loosely, as "Hard-R" and "Soft-R" Southern accents - and indeed, the Soft-R is dying out...

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety +24

      @@AccentHelp Most regional accents appear to be dying out. It's probably due to a combination mass migration to different parts of the country and the push to be more nationalistic or globalistic as opposed to localistic. Most major cites have far more transplants than natives, this is great for the economy, but terrible for local dialects and cultures!

    • @suthinanahkist2521
      @suthinanahkist2521 Před 4 lety +9

      The " plantation " accent isn't exclusive to the elderly, I'm one of the younger ones who has it. Also, a few non-rhotic southern accents can be found in south Louisiana, even among younger people.

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

      @@AccentHelp Basically rhotic and non-rhotic. There's multiple southern accents which fit into each category, and the majority of southern accents where the rhoticity is variable.

    • @hiddenuser1508
      @hiddenuser1508 Před 4 lety +3

      I was born and bred in Charleston, SC and am almost 40 and I fear I’m the last generation that will sound Old South.

  • @julenefisher6265
    @julenefisher6265 Před 5 lety +22

    Jim Johnson, thank you for this fascinating information. My BA was a composite major of linguistics-English-teaching ESL. Listening to you speak on rhotic vs. non-rhotic makes me wish I had included more linguistics in my subsequent career.

  • @felixftw4702
    @felixftw4702 Před 4 lety +78

    the letter r: *exists*
    British accent: NO

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety +17

      Before a vowel - Yes, it does.
      After a vowel - it doesn't, in most accents, but West Country historically does have a post-vowel R sound.

    • @toastracktramcar
      @toastracktramcar Před 3 lety +15

      No such thing as a British accent, our accents can change dramatically in just a few miles. And in Lancashire, where I'm from, we use rhotic pronunciation.

    • @MazdaRX7007
      @MazdaRX7007 Před 3 lety +1

      @@toastracktramcar Maybe he's refering to the recieved pronunciation.

    • @toastracktramcar
      @toastracktramcar Před 3 lety +1

      @@MazdaRX7007 oh aye, they will be.

    • @md95065
      @md95065 Před 3 lety +2

      @@AccentHelp Scottish accents also tend to be rhotic - non rohtic English RP always sounds rather lazy and ugly to me.

  • @Kitbats
    @Kitbats Před 4 lety +8

    I had fun and learned a bunch watching this, this is totally going to help in my research :D

  • @trainjoanjle
    @trainjoanjle Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you - I had never heard the expression 'rhotic' - and I had a good British education in England and have strong interest in languages and pronunciation. That was SO interesting, thanks again.

  • @thefreakaricanreport9098
    @thefreakaricanreport9098 Před 5 lety +6

    Amazing video! Learned a lot here in a just a little over three minutes!

  • @kelly1231231
    @kelly1231231 Před 3 lety +2

    amazing video, so clear and concise!! THANK YOU

  • @amyatpulsepole2024
    @amyatpulsepole2024 Před rokem +2

    Super helpful and brilliantly done. Thank you!

  • @witozzi9270
    @witozzi9270 Před 5 lety +17

    Thank you this was very informative and easily explained

  • @sethorlando
    @sethorlando Před 5 lety +3

    this was a great video! thank you!

  • @malooly
    @malooly Před 5 lety +4

    Mind blown. Thank you for this.

  • @kenjohnson6326
    @kenjohnson6326 Před 3 lety +1

    That was an excellent brief explanation. Thank you.

  • @suthinanahkist2521
    @suthinanahkist2521 Před 4 lety +38

    I'm proud of my non-rhotic southern accent.

    • @markleschinskij5700
      @markleschinskij5700 Před 3 lety +4

      “Suthin Anahkist” thought it was an Indian name at first glance

    • @pauIlo
      @pauIlo Před 2 lety +2

      Please y'all stay talk dropping R's. I'm learnin' English with a non-rhotic accent, lookin' at Louisiana.

    • @s3xyn0sfera2
      @s3xyn0sfera2 Před měsícem

      Bella ciao

  • @mikemorgan7208
    @mikemorgan7208 Před 5 lety +1

    Wow. That was clearly amazing!

  • @metricageomocule7830
    @metricageomocule7830 Před 5 lety +84

    Can someone explain why singers often put on non-rhotic accents, even when their spoken accents are rhotic?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety +68

      Singers tend to be taught to sing the first half of a diphthong rather than the second half, largely because it's more open, and it tends to sound more pleasant to most listeners. Similarly, leaving off the R sound is often considered more pleasant to hear, and it's commonly taught that way - people tend to sing on the vowel and not so much on consonants, and I think even the "vowel form of R" falls into that category for a lot of people.

    • @metricageomocule7830
      @metricageomocule7830 Před 5 lety +6

      @@AccentHelp That and non-rhoticity may be more charming\ mooa chahming to some people.

    • @ErikWeathers
      @ErikWeathers Před 4 lety +11

      @@AccentHelp That is quite interesting. I can never understand lyrics because I feel like people don't enunciate the words. This explanation helps me to grasp a bit about *why* singers seem to hate me. :-)

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety +7

      @@ErikWeathers I hadn't thought of it as hate before... thanks for now making all music feel like a personal attack on me.

    • @guidoylosfreaks
      @guidoylosfreaks Před 4 lety

      Cause it's easier to sing.

  • @jonnibald5276
    @jonnibald5276 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you so much for the video, helped a lot. A tip of my hat to you sir

  • @aNaturalist
    @aNaturalist Před rokem +2

    One thing that fascinates me, is how the rhotic accents from the UK will put an R after a word ending in A. Such as Florider, Canader, and Amander.

  • @mckittyjohnson2023
    @mckittyjohnson2023 Před 5 lety

    This was very helpful! Thank you

  • @clintyoung6851
    @clintyoung6851 Před 5 lety +3

    THAT WAS FASCINATING!! 😃🤙

  • @stevenvandevort781
    @stevenvandevort781 Před 6 lety +3

    Great examples thank you

  • @coreoporeo2394
    @coreoporeo2394 Před 3 lety +4

    I was watching Buffy the Vampire slayer and she was playing as a woman from 1775 and I fell into the rabbit hole of rhotic and non-rhotic and how people actually used to speak, thanks for the great explanation :)

    • @coreoporeo2394
      @coreoporeo2394 Před 3 lety

      Also as a British person I honestly had no idea how many r's I would miss out naturally when speaking.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 3 lety +1

      @@coreoporeo2394 ...but you likely would have kept back in 1775... :-)

  • @Spractral
    @Spractral Před rokem

    Damn dawg. I was all excited for him to give an example of african american vernacular in one of its stronger forms

  • @monicamac2122
    @monicamac2122 Před 5 lety +2

    Very interesting, thank you :)

  • @thetreespiritproject9410
    @thetreespiritproject9410 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Just a superb discussion, and examples! Wow. Impressive. And educational, too! :-) If I do declay-uh!

  • @chegeny
    @chegeny Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks. I enjoyed hearing your discussion. New Orleans native here. Lawd-a-moicy! Yeah you rite. NOLA is the capital of non-rhoticity. AAVE and Yat are the official languages.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 3 lety +1

      Let me know if you might be willing to do a dialect recording for my work! I've been to NOLA a number of times, picking up recordings... and a couple of drinks...

  • @gregyoung5422
    @gregyoung5422 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful, thanks!

  • @abdullahfarid1076
    @abdullahfarid1076 Před 2 lety +1

    today i learned something new. thank you.

  • @sb4040
    @sb4040 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you!

  • @suthinanahkist2521
    @suthinanahkist2521 Před 4 lety +4

    Then you have the accents that are kind-of in the middle between rhotic and non-rhotic, where some post vocalic Rs get dropped and others don't. I'm not talking about accents that are non-rhotic except for the " nurse " set of words, but those where the level of rhoticity is inconsistent, as is the case of most southern accents, NYC English and some others.

  • @VitorHAM
    @VitorHAM Před 4 lety +2

    great video, ty

  • @theutopianoutopioan464
    @theutopianoutopioan464 Před 6 lety +35

    Most ' non-rhotic ' American accents are not completely non rhotic as the R's get pronounced in words like work girl and curb, Even If all other postvocalic R's get dropped. My own accent is largely non rhotic. American non-rhoticity is found in New England English, the Tidewater accent, New Orleans and Cajun accents ( basically my accent ) , New York City English ( somewhat ) and AAVE. There's also a Savannah Georgia accent and a Charleston SC accent that are non rhotic, But for some reason, only the elderly natives of these two cities have Savannah or Charleston accents these days.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 6 lety +12

      It can be in some other parts of the south as well, but it's not as common outside of the regions you mentioned. (Heard a gent in Texas who was largely non-rhotic, though born and raised there - that was an oddity.) The accent throughout the south especially seems to be dying out. A mother and daughter from Atlanta that I interviewed: The mother was largely non-rhotic and the daughter was rhotic. That seems to be the direction it's going. Some blame it on film and TV, others say it's about people traveling and transplanting more, watering down the accent. I don't think it's one cause, but it certainly is moving in that direction...

    • @theutopianoutopioan464
      @theutopianoutopioan464 Před 6 lety +9

      Accent Help, I don't think there's a such thing as a completely non-rhotic North American accent, at least not anymore. Pretty much every North American accent has at least a bit of rhoticity, mainly in the NURSE set of words ( such as ' work ' ' world ' ' quirky ' ' burn ' etc. ) Even if a particular North American accent is otherwise non rhotic. The only exception I know of are North Americans who can't pronounce R's due to a speech impediment. I've heard several movies and radio broadcast samples from the 1920s to the 1940s where there was a person or people with a totally R-less American accents, mainly New Yorkers from that era, what with their " toidy toid " streets buying ' moichandise ' etc. There was a time when such an accent would have been considered prestigious and patriotic, but that's not so much the case anymore!

    • @ThisQuietStorm
      @ThisQuietStorm Před 6 lety +2

      Accent Help my late grandmother from southern Virginia had that old school southern accent you describe. She was quite a well spoken woman. Gentle and tender in her mannerisms and an incredible teacher. She will be greatly missed.

    • @numberjackfiutro7412
      @numberjackfiutro7412 Před 5 lety +4

      @@AccentHelp Alot of Louisiana's accents are nonrhotic, even among 20 something's like myself! I bet there's even children native to Louisiana with non-rhoticity!
      I've got a largely non rhotic southern accent and I'm under 30. Check out some of my videos!

    • @donquixotedoflamingo5510
      @donquixotedoflamingo5510 Před 4 lety +1

      @@theutopianoutopioan464 I agree, most of the "non-rhotic" American accents are actually "soft-rhotic", similar to the strong African American accent.
      But, there is definitely still some non-rhotic accents left, just very rare... There are plenty of little towns with few people in the middle of nowhere who still kept their accents, remember that America is gigantic.

  • @henry8239
    @henry8239 Před 5 lety +7

    I’m from the West Country in England, it’s rather rhotic here haha!

  • @bob.whynot1664
    @bob.whynot1664 Před 2 měsíci

    doing a paper on uk vs usa pronunciation and this was a lifesaver (i'm a uk uni student)

  • @jonneagle4892
    @jonneagle4892 Před 2 lety

    this was the most interesting video i’ve ever watched

  • @rat3587
    @rat3587 Před 4 lety +5

    For alot of my childhood people use to think I was British or one of my parents were so I was picking up on their accent, i couldn't figure out why because of lived in Canada my whole life, a few months ago I figred out its because I have a speech impediment, I can't say my Rs correctly. People Really thought I was a Brit around 4th grade when I went in to speech therapy because the impediment was only sorta there lol

    • @KatieBlockKatiekat2000
      @KatieBlockKatiekat2000 Před 4 lety

      Same here, when I got older I had some people ask about my "accent" and the reality is that it's a speech impediment. I went to speech classes all through elementary but it's never fully gone away lol.

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 Před 4 lety +3

      Gotta therapy the Britishness out of you.

    • @janeparis1705
      @janeparis1705 Před 9 měsíci

      Argh. A speech impediment is not an accent. Nobody from UK regions would claim that their whole region pronounced their Rs as Ws. Sorry.

  • @giu5589
    @giu5589 Před 3 lety +1

    thanks dude that was very clear... cleah... clearr...

  • @edwarddodge7937
    @edwarddodge7937 Před 3 lety +2

    In America the Southern non-rhotic accents, like the Northern non-rhotic accents, tend to be on the east coast. Interesting that you picked up on the cajun accent (gulf coast). Almost forgot about that one.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 3 lety

      And most of those non-rhotic southern accents are only spoken by an older generation these days, outside of African-Americans, Cajuns, and people from New Orleans. The non-rhotic southern accent, in general, is dying out.

  • @kerriepimm3418
    @kerriepimm3418 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant! thanks :)

  • @MikeSilv
    @MikeSilv Před 6 měsíci

    I have no idea how I got here, but the more you know

  • @dg5175
    @dg5175 Před rokem

    Learn something new every day...

  • @tree427
    @tree427 Před 2 lety +1

    I noticed this when learning japanese that I had to pronounce a lot of the borrowed words differently

  • @1John111
    @1John111 Před 11 měsíci

    Helpful. Thanks

  • @willmcpherson2
    @willmcpherson2 Před 6 lety +35

    Just like in Boston, in Australia we hate Rs. Cah pahk.

  • @HenkKroonenburg
    @HenkKroonenburg Před 4 lety +1

    Like in House of cards the accent of Kevin Spacey as president Underwood the R's disappears completely! At the time I when I was watching the show for the first time I was surprised that he was speaking with a non-rhotic accent but his character was from South Carolina that's explained the way he was talking! As a European I'm more used to speak with a rhotic accent for me it's easier to speak like this and to understand but I can also speak with a non-rhotic accent like the British or the Australians depending on the person in front of me!

  • @user-lf1qn8gu7l
    @user-lf1qn8gu7l Před rokem

    thank you so much

  • @shaegse
    @shaegse Před 5 lety +3

    Excellent video.

  • @Gaze73
    @Gaze73 Před rokem +1

    Rhotic is superior because the R is there for a reason, not to be ignored.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před rokem +1

      Is the H in rhotic there to be ignored? Pronunciation changes over time, and it varies from one place to another.

  • @g.salayon1718
    @g.salayon1718 Před rokem

    Holy shit. Annnnnd subscribed

  • @ecwheaton
    @ecwheaton Před 3 lety

    You are awesome. That is all.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 3 lety

      Sending this to my mom. That is all.

  • @michaelorourke3674
    @michaelorourke3674 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It would’ve been good to mention not just SW England but also the rest of the English speaking world.

  • @brandonjudd2375
    @brandonjudd2375 Před 5 lety +4

    What about the Tidewater accent? That accent extends from Baltimore down to Southeast Virginia. It is a strong non-rhotic accent.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety +2

      It certainly can be - though the non-rhotic element is often inconsistent these days...

    • @suthinanahkist2521
      @suthinanahkist2521 Před 4 lety +1

      @@AccentHelp That variable rhoticity is common in most southern accents these days.

    • @immortalistimmortality8835
      @immortalistimmortality8835 Před 4 lety +1

      The level of rhoticity in east Virginia is variable these days, just like in many parts of the south.

    • @kernowforester811
      @kernowforester811 Před 2 lety

      I've heard Tidewater English recordings on youtoob, from the likes of Tangier/Smith Islands. It most deffo is rhotic, as is its ancester, Cornish-English. I am interested as I come from Cornwall, the home of where many of the ancesters of Tangier/Smith Islands came from in the 17th C

    • @MeadeSkeltonMusic
      @MeadeSkeltonMusic Před 2 lety

      Look up a very Richmond Phone Call

  • @shanes8631
    @shanes8631 Před 7 měsíci

    I love how you did examples of every accent you mentioned except for African-American vernacular. Thought it best to stay away from that one? 😂

  • @msisabelgomez
    @msisabelgomez Před 4 lety +2

    Wow! Thank you. #MerriamWebster just added the word #rhoticity to its dictionary. That's how I found this vid! Enjoyed it.

  • @RADEnglish
    @RADEnglish Před 5 lety

    Americans do lots of "funky" things. The word 'pants' for example. Great video!

  • @janeparis1705
    @janeparis1705 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks, I have just blundered into the world of linguistics, so far I have just been reading and finding it difficult to know exactly what sounds are being described and wished I had a teacher who could demonstrate out loud.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 9 měsíci

      You can watch my series on vowels and lexical set words and that may help you to hear one perspective. There are also some apps or websites that do a demonstration of their take on each sound as well. (There was a CD I got from the International Phonetic Association that does it, but I don't know that it's available anymore.)

  • @GSCannon
    @GSCannon Před 2 lety

    Interesting to know America & Canada has preserved our British forefathers Rhotic English.

  • @user-el1qb6dm5t
    @user-el1qb6dm5t Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks ❤

  • @chappie__
    @chappie__ Před rokem

    Some people just love the hard R...

  • @joeshanley9908
    @joeshanley9908 Před 3 lety

    I was waiting for him to provide an example of the vernacular African-American non rhoticity ;)

  • @sunderark
    @sunderark Před 5 měsíci

    takes notes: Rotisserie, got it.

  • @gingerwithsoul2212
    @gingerwithsoul2212 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm bringing non-rhotic accents back !!! :)

  • @twist777hz
    @twist777hz Před 6 lety +1

    Is there a consensus amongst researchers as to why or when the mainstream/southern (excl. southwest) English accent became non-rhotic?

    • @zingzangwallawalla
      @zingzangwallawalla Před 5 lety +1

      I live in Kernow, and lived in Devon for many years. It has not become non rhotic in the rural areas at all, however it has more so in the tourist areas.
      Where i am in Kernow there is a strong rhotic, we don't consider ourselves English here so i don't see that dying out any time soon :)

    • @kernowforester811
      @kernowforester811 Před 2 lety

      Eastern and northern dialects of English tended to use a 'tap' or uvular r, where in middle English it may have been a trilled r,. which into the 20th C started to become dropped. Simon Roper on youtoob, discusses changes in regional English. Just a natural progression. Meanwhile the SW of the UK uses a retroflex 'r', like Ireland, and it is this that was transported to America.

    • @anonanon7497
      @anonanon7497 Před 11 měsíci

      Mainstream? Lol. The only place the south east accent is mainstream is the south east and, pre-2000's, BBC.

  • @LordSolidusI
    @LordSolidusI Před rokem

    I am from Devon England- most people speak with a non-rhotic accent, but a lot of people who live near the farms speak more rhotic like hagrid. There are a few people in the city that use the rhotic R though and it is very common in the city of Bristol.
    The accents in Britain are incredibly diverse and they can sometimes become difficult to understand when you go further up north. Liverpool for example make a very aggressive R sound that fits into none of these 2 categories, similar to the French scratchy-sounding R, but much more prominent.

    • @anonanon7497
      @anonanon7497 Před 11 měsíci

      The North West of England is rhotic, mostly across Lancashire, Cumberland and Westmoreland. The south West is also classed as being rhotic, although you seem to suggest this has changed within the urbanised population.

    • @LordSolidusI
      @LordSolidusI Před 11 měsíci

      @anonanon7497 That's right. The rhotic R in the West Country isn't very common now, especially in cities other than Bristol. I think a lot of this has something to do with a lot of people migrating here from other parts of the country. I think many areas of Somerset still use rhotic R though. But in Exeter & Torbay in Devon, the rhotic R is rare and a lot of the locals have an accent similar to a less posh version of 'Queen's English' or 'Oxford' English; typical of what many northerners consider a "typical southern accent".

  • @kathrynludrick4821
    @kathrynludrick4821 Před 4 lety

    What do you call it when you drop the o or w at the end of the word? I say yellow as yella, Amarillo as Amarilla, tomorrow as tomorrah etc.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety +1

      I don't know of a term for it, but it often carries over to unstressed syllables being a schwa sound, or even being dropped altogether: family-famly, history-histry, valuable-valyuble, natural-nachrl, finally-finely.

  • @tj.espygil4544
    @tj.espygil4544 Před 2 lety +1

    I studied Linguistics in college as well as Black English. Having been an Honors student in high school I had some challenges with Linguistics. Most of our work involved dissecting the Hungarian language which most schools use. I had never heard of rhotic sounds until this video. As old as I am I'm surprised I still learn new things. Very informative.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 2 lety

      Keep learning, TJ! I'm learning new stuff about this all the time, and I've spent most of my life doing it. Let's not even get into what I'm learning in areas of my life that I haven't spent most of my time on...

    • @tj.espygil4544
      @tj.espygil4544 Před 2 lety

      @@AccentHelp Thank you so much! Have great days.

  • @suthinscientist9801
    @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

    Where would you put my accent? Which region of the USA?

  • @pinkaddiction13
    @pinkaddiction13 Před 2 lety +2

    The south sure does tend to have a hard R.....LOL

  • @michaelwestmoreland2530

    Roticity...I'm familiar with the concept. It IS my favorite kind of chicken.

  • @uerraher9199
    @uerraher9199 Před 2 lety

    Sir i found it extremely hard to pronounce words with "l, p, r" like parallel...
    How can help myself

  • @chexhcatialo3889
    @chexhcatialo3889 Před 4 lety +1

    Interestingly, many midwestern blacks are non-rhotic, especially in cities like Toledo, Detroit, Cincinnati and Chicago. This is despite the midwestern part of the country having no history of native r-lessness. It's strange.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety

      The various "Great Migrations" involved a lot of African-Americans moving north in the early 20th century, and many of them retain roots with family in the South. It's not uncommon for their children to spend summers down South with the grandparents, which certainly increases the likelihood that the accent remains strongly connected to its Southern roots.

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

      @@AccentHelp it may also have been that once African Americans migrated to the midwest, they tend to stay separated in their own communities rather than integrating linguistically into the dominant accents of the region.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety

      @@suthinscientist9801 That's absolutely true - plus a lot of African-Americans code switch, speaking differently to whites than they do to other blacks.

  • @immortalistimmortality8835

    Then we have non-rhotic accents where the " nurse " set of words retains the r, even though the speech is otherwise non-rhotic. This phenomenon is most common in the greater Boston area and in the southern half of Louisiana.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety

      And it's very commonly the "first R" that people from NYC put on.

    • @immortalistimmortality8835
      @immortalistimmortality8835 Před 4 lety

      @@AccentHelp especially since the stereotypical " toidy toid " thing is now almost extinct.

  • @chexhcatialo3889
    @chexhcatialo3889 Před 4 lety

    Can you tell me where people pronounce the " ow " diphthong as "eeoo\yoo " ? For example, " town " sounds a lot like how many brits say " tune ".

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety

      I'm not familiar with that...

    • @chexhcatialo3889
      @chexhcatialo3889 Před 4 lety

      @@AccentHelp Suthin Scientist has that phenomenon in his accent.

  • @user-qz9zu1fq9k
    @user-qz9zu1fq9k Před 5 lety +2

    Does rhoticity also include trilling the R’s, like the Scots or us Slavs when we speak English? 😅

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety +2

      If you tend to have an R (of any kind) after a vowel, such as in the word HARD, you would be a rhotic speaker, but if that kind of R is missing, you're non-rhotic. Make sense?

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

      Rhoticity includes ANY r sound.

    • @guidoylosfreaks
      @guidoylosfreaks Před 4 lety

      I think many scots trill their R's but drop them in final position.

  • @5duckmama
    @5duckmama Před 4 lety +4

    what if you ADD an R ? as in “wersh” instead of “wash” ?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 4 lety +3

      Yet another phenomenon! Often occurs in Warshington as well.

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

      @@AccentHelp Then that's hyper rhotic.

    • @heathersowers4833
      @heathersowers4833 Před 4 lety

      My grandmother did that, and we would always tease her! We live in Washington state, and she would always say Warrshington. I don't know where that originated.

  • @jamelpiclit3062
    @jamelpiclit3062 Před 3 lety

    My tongue is short, the distance of the tip from the muscle that connects the tongue to the base of my mouth is non-existent, seriously there is no "bottom" of my tongue.. I can speak normally most of the time.. But sometimes if I talk really fast it sounds like I'm mumbling my words. And I can't pronounce the letter R, it sounds like a choked L.. 🤣🤣

  • @Jobayyyy
    @Jobayyyy Před 5 měsíci

    I’m trying to identify my own accent, as silly as that sounds, because I just said ‘I’ll just throw it on the bed.’ But when I said throw, I dropped the R completely and said ‘thow’. Is that a southern trait? I’m from oklahoma and I’m just curious as to why I do that.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 měsíci

      Not uncommon, especially throughout the south!

  • @mslauralew
    @mslauralew Před 2 lety

    I'm originally from.Brooklyn. I have been asked if I'm from Boston. I say "numba"

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 2 lety

      If your final vowel, where the R is dropped, is a fairly strong/distinct vowel, I can see why people might mistake you for being from Boston - there's more of a tendency to make it strong/distinct there, while most New Yorkers who drop the R make it weak/indistinct.

  • @pauIlo
    @pauIlo Před 2 lety +1

    Teacha, can y'all teach how to do a genuine Yat - Noo-Awlins accent?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 2 lety +1

      www.accenthelp.com/products/new-orleans

  • @robin2012ism
    @robin2012ism Před 2 lety

    Infahmative an' entahtainin'

  • @jamelpiclit3062
    @jamelpiclit3062 Před 3 lety

    My tongue is sgort, the distance of the tip from the muscle that connects the tongue to the base of my mouth is non-existent.. I can speak normally most of the time.. But sometimes if I talk really fast it sounds like I'm mumbling my words. And I can't pronounce the letter R, it sounds like a choked L.. 🤣🤣

  • @strychnotic3933
    @strychnotic3933 Před 3 lety +3

    i was hoping for an AAVE accent impression :(

  • @lenvm
    @lenvm Před 5 lety

    Useful explanation! Are accents either rhotic or non-rhotic, or are there degrees of rhoticity? For example, is Spanish very rhotic because of that strong "r"?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety +3

      Spanish is rhotic, indeed. There are many non-rhotic accents in the US that have some rhoticity that creeps in, like how many New Yorkers with a strong non-rhotic accent will still say the R on a word like FIRST. Similarly, even though most American accents are rhotic, Rs on very unstressed words will often be dropped: "I stopped by for tickets" may drop the R in FOR. I don't know of anyone who has laid them out by degrees... Maybe we need a Rhotic Scale, much like the Richter Scale? Not too many lives are saved by this one though...

    • @lenvm
      @lenvm Před 5 lety +3

      @@AccentHelp Thank you for the lucid and funny reply! The Rhotic Scale: I love it. That must explain the rarity of earthquakes here in Massachusetts where I live.

    • @katehickson7876
      @katehickson7876 Před 5 lety

      What do you call it, in linguistic terms, when someone adds an intervocalic R where there shouldn't be one? I worked for a headmaster, from Maine who always did this! My favorite was "Monicker rand Vanesser" for Monica and Vanessa. (Hmm, he's also put it on the end of a "voweled" word!)

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety

      It's commonly called an Intrusive-R, and I covered that idea-r in this video: czcams.com/video/-CGISNe4LrI/video.html

    • @numberjackfiutro7412
      @numberjackfiutro7412 Před 5 lety

      Rhoticity can be variable, for example, most southern American accents are variably rhotic. This means the r-dropping and r-pronouncing patterns are not consistent.

  • @hajime3570
    @hajime3570 Před 5 lety

    Do you think that the non-rhotic southern accent that was common place changed to a more rhotic one after the civil rights movement? I'm not too familiar with linguistics, but from what I've read, this could be why older Southern American English shifted from non-rhotic to rhotic in the past few decades.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 5 lety

      The timing is roughly right - though I think it was more in the 70s - but you could argue that's a reaction to civil rights. It also times out with other changes, such as the NYC change away from first=foist and toilet=terlet. Certainly media was becoming more and more widespread and influential, which could be an element. Accents shift over time, so change is inevitable. That said, racism and other forms of prejudice are so clearly a part of our world that I couldn't for a moment say that you're wrong.

    • @suthinscientist9801
      @suthinscientist9801 Před 4 lety

      World War Two probably had a bigger bearing on the shift towards rhoticity. After ww2, the cultural center of gravity moved from the UK and the east coast of the USA to the midwestern USA. This may be the reason non-rhotic accents suddenly lost prestige after the Second World War. Heck, from the 1890s to the 1940s, there was a pseudo RP type accent that was used as a standard accent. It even had most of the hallmarks of the standard British accent (non-rhoticity, trap\bath split, etc )

    • @yustinushalim1146
      @yustinushalim1146 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@suthinscientist9801Just to make sure, when you were talking about 1890s to 1940s, was it about Translantic accent? Because from what I remember that accent combines RP and Standard American Accent but non rhotic.

  • @hankkingsley2976
    @hankkingsley2976 Před 3 lety +1

    Savannah and Charleston

  • @souskai
    @souskai Před 11 měsíci

    Very rhotic, Rochester, NY

  • @FaptnUndrpants
    @FaptnUndrpants Před 3 lety +1

    1:53 Getting whiffs of Frank Underwood here.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 3 lety

      I'm hoping it's my accent and not my behavior, but I'm somewhat disturb by that as well...

  • @pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065

    PRRRRRRRR

  • @01keenan10
    @01keenan10 Před 4 lety

    I looked this up because I always wondered why some people sat "saw" with an r, like "sawr".. Lol I always thought It was weird/cute

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 4 lety

      A british person inserts an R when an 'ah' sounds leads into a vowel.
      So a british person may say, 'I sawr it'.

  • @windygirl2342
    @windygirl2342 Před rokem

    It would be more helpful if you would use the word in an entire sentence so we could have a reference. Plus, it doesn't help to understand the difference between British and American speaking. I came here after wondering if the patriots (beginning of the country) spoke with a British accent the explanation said rhotic and I don't really understand the why.

  • @sciencerscientifico310

    Then there's the semi rhotic or inconsistently rhotic accents such as some New York and southern accents where they'll drop some postvocalic Rs and keep the others.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  Před 2 lety

      Indeed! The most common R to stay on is in words like NURSE - especially true for New Yorkers. The most common R to drop in these is in the unstressed syllable, such as words like LETTER.

  • @kisumuboysalumnisaccoltd6330

    Is that why 'twitter'suddenly changes to twi.r.r.e.r in the US?

  • @Davd-ik2hm
    @Davd-ik2hm Před 5 lety +2

    roll the R for god sake!!!! ROLL IT like an italian! :D Ferrrrrrrrrráááárrrryyyy