Construction companies and cities should pay. If the land is not safe to build a home on, it shouldn't be built there. Normal every day people aren't geologists, they don't think of these things, and the apathy of construction companies, city leadership, and home insurance companies are destroying lives.
Nothing obtuse about it. Two houses slid off the mountain side in Draper, more houses in North Salt Lake, Bountiful and houses built on grounds with underground streams many other places around the valley. Either someone is unqualified to do their job or they're making bank not to.
The Wasatch fault is huge. You’re talking about a couple spots that happen to be on the wasatch fault but are also at locations homes shouldn’t be built due to soil and the angle of repose of the slopes. Those homes in Draper that slid are a joke. They brought in soil and it obviously was not a proper engineering solution. The soil had moved from those areas for a reason. The homes in bountiful are also a joke. I worry about all of them in the ledge right above where they have dug out the entire face. One day that sucker will come down. Other areas are fine, we’re just all at risk of an earthquake.
I'm from SoCal. I'll never buy a home on a cliff after growing up watching mansions slowly break apart and slide down hillsides/cliffs. Life there also left me with a great fear of fire, whereas life here leaves me paranoid about floods. I've been flooded out of almost every apartment, and alas, a few times it was raw sewage.
It makes one wonder who the excavator / engineer who tested the grounds to see if it was safe to build was and if if they just did a substandard job or if they were paid to approve the land by someone with more $$$ than sense.
I was told never buy a house on the side of a hill, on a cliff, next to a river or creek, or down stream of a dam, or in a flood zone or next to a lake or the sea. Get a second opinion on a geological land survey if you got the dough.
First of all, water is not the problem. They are bringing in fill dirt and packing sand puttimg it directly on loose rock hillsides. When the pour the concrete slab and then build the house that dirt sitting on loose rock cannot handle the weight. The fix is easy but must be done before the house is built. When pouring the foundation, piers need to be drilled. If about every 8ft along the outter edge of where the slab is to be poured a 9ft deep pier is drilled down thru that dirt and into the rock then the slab is anchored down into ground that wont slide. If drill 9 ft piers of 18-22 inches in diameter and bell out the bottom to 36 inches (picture an elephants front legs, thats what the pier will look like) and have them at every 8 ft, that foundation is easily guaranteed for life.....ALWAYS make sure when building a house to have piers drilled under the slab
Wait... were these people told at the time of purchase that their insurer would not insure against this particular catastrophe in this particular location? And they decided to continue with the purchase anyway?
This happens because the developer and city engineers failed to property do a geological survey. Do a class action lawsuit against the city, the developer, and the state of Utah who allowed laws to be changed by the Utah legislature so developers in Utah, including those in the Utah legislature, brad wilson and his cronies on Utah hill changed laws making it possible for developers to skip some of the city requirements. A lawsuit is needed here. And Utah needs to learn their lesson. This is happening in Draper, North Salt Lake, St George and many other places in Utah. Should never have built in this area. Cities know this and so do the developers. NO one will be able to sell in that area because it is now unisurable. Therefore, everyone in that area will lose their homes and have to move. Sue the city, state and developer/builder involved.
The drainage problem is probably due to the water being put on landscaping in the area. Everyone wants trees, flowers and a lawn. But LaVerkin is a desert and the soil can't support the homes and landscaping water flows.
So get an geological engineer before you buy a home in utah. Im in minnesota and was looking to move to utah next may. Now im not so sure. Ive seen reports of homes sinking in florida too!
The city and the engineering firm failed to do their due diligence and stop this unsafe construction project. Those homes should never have been built.
I'm from SoCal. I'll never buy a home on a cliff after growing up watching mansions slowly break apart and slide down hillsides/cliffs. Life there also left me with a great fear of fire, whereas life here leaves me paranoid about floods. I've been flooded out of almost every apartment, and alas, a few times it was raw sewage.
Construction companies and cities should pay. If the land is not safe to build a home on, it shouldn't be built there. Normal every day people aren't geologists, they don't think of these things, and the apathy of construction companies, city leadership, and home insurance companies are destroying lives.
Are you talking about all the homes built along the Wasatch Fault line ? I hope you were smart enough not to buy one.
Developers sue cities under the Takings Clause if cities don't allow them to build, so the cities pretty much give developers carte blanche.
@@travisritzman6772 You’re being obtuse.
Nothing obtuse about it. Two houses slid off the mountain side in Draper, more houses in North Salt Lake, Bountiful and houses built on grounds with underground streams many other places around the valley. Either someone is unqualified to do their job or they're making bank not to.
The Wasatch fault is huge. You’re talking about a couple spots that happen to be on the wasatch fault but are also at locations homes shouldn’t be built due to soil and the angle of repose of the slopes. Those homes in Draper that slid are a joke. They brought in soil and it obviously was not a proper engineering solution. The soil had moved from those areas for a reason. The homes in bountiful are also a joke. I worry about all of them in the ledge right above where they have dug out the entire face. One day that sucker will come down. Other areas are fine, we’re just all at risk of an earthquake.
This is what happens when you appoint a realtor as governor and then elect hair gel to the legislature
😂😭😂
I'm from SoCal. I'll never buy a home on a cliff after growing up watching mansions slowly break apart and slide down hillsides/cliffs.
Life there also left me with a great fear of fire, whereas life here leaves me paranoid about floods. I've been flooded out of almost every apartment, and alas, a few times it was raw sewage.
Either your house falls down the hill or it gets flooded from land or water coming off the hill.
It makes one wonder who the excavator / engineer who tested the grounds to see if it was safe to build was and if if they just did a substandard job or if they were paid to approve the land by someone with more $$$ than sense.
Exactly. Those people should be able to go after the company and city to recoup the loss of their home.
Wow.... terrible ! So sorry for those who live in those homes and close by.
I was told never buy a house on the side of a hill, on a cliff, next to a river or creek, or down stream of a dam, or in a flood zone or next to a lake or the sea.
Get a second opinion on a geological land survey if you got the dough.
First of all, water is not the problem. They are bringing in fill dirt and packing sand puttimg it directly on loose rock hillsides. When the pour the concrete slab and then build the house that dirt sitting on loose rock cannot handle the weight. The fix is easy but must be done before the house is built. When pouring the foundation, piers need to be drilled. If about every 8ft along the outter edge of where the slab is to be poured a 9ft deep pier is drilled down thru that dirt and into the rock then the slab is anchored down into ground that wont slide. If drill 9 ft piers of 18-22 inches in diameter and bell out the bottom to 36 inches (picture an elephants front legs, thats what the pier will look like) and have them at every 8 ft, that foundation is easily guaranteed for life.....ALWAYS make sure when building a house to have piers drilled under the slab
We learned that where I grew up. 50 homes slid before they started building them on piers.
Sue the contractor and town govt
That’s what happened to my house in North Salt Lake. So sorry to hear about this with you.
I remember that.
who ended up paying? You, insurance or the builder?
@@BabuskaDoll, I’m curious too
They probably went bankrupt.
Wait... were these people told at the time of purchase that their insurer would not insure against this particular catastrophe in this particular location? And they decided to continue with the purchase anyway?
No, we were not told until after the house's on 2021 went down.
Insurers will not disclose anything that is not specifically asked about.
It’s not a common thing to cover anyways. Most insurance companies don’t. You have to go somewhere else and it usually costs like 4k a year.
Why do the local housing authority gave the construction company the permits to build the houses there.
This happens because the developer and city engineers failed to property do a geological survey. Do a class action lawsuit against the city, the developer, and the state of Utah who allowed laws to be changed by the Utah legislature so developers in Utah, including those in the Utah legislature, brad wilson and his cronies on Utah hill changed laws making it possible for developers to skip some of the city requirements. A lawsuit is needed here. And Utah needs to learn their lesson. This is happening in Draper, North Salt Lake, St George and many other places in Utah. Should never have built in this area. Cities know this and so do the developers. NO one will be able to sell in that area because it is now unisurable. Therefore, everyone in that area will lose their homes and have to move. Sue the city, state and developer/builder involved.
The drainage problem is probably due to the water being put on landscaping in the area. Everyone wants trees, flowers and a lawn. But LaVerkin is a desert and the soil can't support the homes and landscaping water flows.
Homes in fl sink because the land underneath is like a sponge and water runs through it
That's the Utah trademark, rich people's houses crashing down snob-hill.
Will insurance cover for fire?!
Southern Utah land is horrible to build on. I see huge problems all over.
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Stop building homes on cliffs
So get an geological engineer before you buy a home in utah. Im in minnesota and was looking to move to utah next may. Now im not so sure. Ive seen reports of homes sinking in florida too!
100% yes!
Or it was built on an old landfill. Happens alot. Or built on sand.
Guy kept patching and repainting the walls. Yeah, that’ll work 😂😂😂
The city and the engineering firm failed to do their due diligence and stop this unsafe construction project.
Those homes should never have been built.
What a nightmare.
There should be a law that we can't build homes anywhere that a natural disaster might occur.
So anywhere?
LANDSLIDES ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN. SHOCKING. 😂
Such a duh moment those houses are close to the mineral springs that come out of the rocks. Should have done there homework and use
Seven kids!
It's Utah for sure ...
7 kids is a small family.
A few families in my Wasatch town have double digit amounts of kids.
Please move to California it’s wonderful there
I'm from SoCal. I'll never buy a home on a cliff after growing up watching mansions slowly break apart and slide down hillsides/cliffs.
Life there also left me with a great fear of fire, whereas life here leaves me paranoid about floods. I've been flooded out of almost every apartment, and alas, a few times it was raw sewage.
Ew