Biggest Mistakes New Players Make with Mark Rosewater and Make a Wish | The Command Zone 279 | EDH
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- This episode was made possible by the incredible Make-A-Wish foundation. If you'd like to learn more about the important work they do, please visit:
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Show Notes:
Today we’re talking about the biggest mistakes new players make, and with two very special guests: Mark Rosewater, whom you all know, and Evan, who came to us as a recipient of the Make a Wish foundation. We’re so honored to grant this wish for Evan and for him to help write up the outline for this episode and record together.
Find out more about the foundations we talked about today by visiting these links below:
The Make-A-Wish Foundation
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Tuberous Sclerosis Alliance
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Evan’s Ted Talk about his condition and his seizure dog (6 years ago):
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I’m 46 and just started playing within the past year. I’m a high school teacher and was asked to “sponsor” (i.e. supervise) a game club at our school. The students taught me how to play MTG and I’m hooked!
Very cool!!!!
You sound like a cool teacher
Thank you guys for letting this awesome kid join you guys. It's so great to see joy and kindness to be shown and shared to those who suffer from disabilities. I hope this inspires others to be more accepting and spread love around the world
I'm with you dude, I was just going to write something like that.
Know him irl good person
@@squeakcent825 Yeah, definitely seems like an awesome dude
Agreed and well said!
Lazar Todorov you should still do it
My son is part of Evan's playgroup and I absolutely loved this video. My favorite part: Evan "We have a spike in the playgroup. All he wants to do is win." I'm 99% certain that he's talking about my son. LMFAO, because it is so true. My only disappointment was that there was not nearly enough screen time for his sweet dog Mindy.
That's really cool!!!! I'm ao happy for them!
I don't think I've ever seen such a positive comment section in at least two years.
Me either, and I dive deep into these.
its because evens so great
Bro, I know! It’s refreshing lol
Yhea No hate
41:18
Josh: "Some of [the cards] have a whole book on them."
MaRo, internally: _"Boy you have no idea."_
Any beta card just trying to describe what a deathtouch life linker is, or any card with flavor text from that time (cough) grizzly bears (cough)
I assume you are referring to the spoilers from Throne of Eldrain. Well played sir. Well played.
I completely forgot about the literal book cards, good point
Lol my mind immediately went to "Gush" .. fucking book is a masterclass
@@v1vGAMERTAGv1v Yeah, I was thinking that too, like it LITERALLY has a book written about it's intricacies.. lol.
As a Make-a-Wish kiddo myself, from the bottom of my heart THANK YOU! Your commitment to the community is visible and much appreciated 😁
Evan rules, surprisingly confident on camera too especially around Maro who would make me nervous.
I adjust quickly on camera.
@@evaninstinct1165 you were awesome! I saw you got used to the podcast format pretty quick and you made some very good points! Really glad you were on this episode :)
Yeah he needs to come back
saw Mark from a distance at MF Seattle this year. I was terrified. Was too shy to go say hi.
There's no way on Earth I could be that cool and confident in front of those three people now, let alone in my freshman year of high school. This kid's brilliant.
Yeah no way; I'd be afraid to be assertive and try to talk.
Ashlen head shake is best head shake.
This was a very good episode. The larger group discussion format works well.
Also, you guys are awesome for hosting Evan.
Honestly, I half expected it to be a 15 minute "Meet the guys" wish, and i was so excited when I found out i'd be on the podcast.
Evan Instinct Congratulations!
MaRo: "There's an answer to everything"
Planeswalker emblems: *laughs in uninteractable*
Well Big Karn let you restart the game :D
If the emblem isnt game winning kill the person asap. I ulted Bant Tamiyo and lost because people ganged up on me.
Not a lot of people let those ultimates go off tho, so you aren't really ever gonna see any super crazy emblems go off, unless people are just being nice
i just hate emblems from a flavor perspective xD what even are they? Is chandra giving me her business card?
Ahahahaha that made me lol irl
When you are winning, know when to let a player live. Sometimes finishing off the weakened player is a worse tactic than addressing the player(s) that still have a decent position.
Ent229 I wish I could like this about a thousand more times.
As someone who had a wish from make a wish granted about 15 years ago, I LOVED this so much!
Inb4 tactful "Why aren't you dead?" comments
I'm not crying your crying! 😭 But honestly it warms my heart to see this, the wish foundation gives kids delt unfair hands in life a chance to live a dream and it puts a huge smile on my face! Evan keep killing it my dude and command zone thank you for doing this 🙌
I built my first deck around an Un card
Mark: “WHICH UN CARD?!!”
"Full art basic land. "
Mark was probably like, "AHA, more ammo to convince the higher ups to let me make more Un Sets!"
This episode was so pure I lost all my salt from last commander games
I had two friends. 1 who played magic for years, and 2. Who was just getting into it. Player 1 took player 2 through a literal class. I'm talking 2 hours explaining turn phases, and that was only the beginning. Surprisingly, friend 2 still plays magic
See, some people just like post time codes in the comments to where the “actual topic” starts cause they don’t want to hear you talk about your sponsors again. Personally I don’t mind, and this episode more than anything reinforces that. If you didn’t have all these sponsors you would never have been able to do all of this for Evan. I’m really glad everything worked out and I know none of it would be possible without amazing sponsors like these. That’s why I can listen to shoutouts to cardkingdom and ultrapro every episode and not feel tempted to look for a timecode in the comments.
wow-
this encapsulated a lot of how I feel about our sponsors and the timecode comments, which we choose to not remove regardless. Our sponsors and Patrons are the reason we’re still going. Community support is our lifeblood and is for so many creators online. We can only thank you all for your support and letting us help make wishes come true for others. It’s a blessing and an honor.
Thanks to Make-A-Wish my nephew got to meet the crew of the Simpsons about two decades ago. They really made him feel like a rock-star and I hope good things come to you guys in return.
I had a really nice double-benefit political move the other day. This was early game and I kept a shady hand, two lands and a 3-drop mana rock. So I had 3 turns to draw a land and I'm good, but I didn't. I did have a Karametra's Favor though, and my opponent had a Fertilid. I proposed, I'll ramp you by enchanting your Fertilid if you give me a land. He took it, he was able to do a better play with the extra mana, and I was able to get back on track. Politics are awesome!
Way to go, and way to pay it forward. Taking your success and doing something so good with it! You’ve given the young man a good memory he can draw from to help him get through tough times in the future.
I made the mistake of showing Aetherflux reservoir to new players, now our games overextend because there is always someone running lifegain.
Lifegain and laser beam decks.
That's no moon..
Archfiend of Dispare shall be your new friend.
@@MadManwithaSpoon currently stopping myself from slotting in the new Tibalt in all of my red decks
@@redundancycheck Go the full 9 yards and make an anti-life Rakdos deck! They're gonna learn that you can't rely on 1 strat the whole time.
i had to watch this episode in stages, the wholesome energy was too much, I am so glad this kid got this much positivity put into a few days of his life.
Thank you so much for supporting someone experiencing something so terrible, that they have to live with. The fact Evan is having so much fun makes my heart melt. Just, wow. Jimmy, Josh, Ashlin, Mark, Card Kingdom And Ultra Pro, And the the rest of the command zone crew, thank you, for making someone’s wish come true.
Also, this video will really help me, as I have only been playing for 8 months, preparing to watch!
20:20 Another example would be Rashmi with elf tribal. Seems fine on paper: Elves make mana for counterspells, counterspells protect elves. But it falls apart as soon as you add non-mana tribal payoffs or go-wide finishers, because the counterspells prevent you from reaching critical creature mass and the go-wide cards take away space that you'd need for card draw to maintain the control strategy.
My biggest deck building weakness is "all the things"-itis. I typically want to use one synergy to fuel another, etc.
I recently taught my friend to play and really the best advice if you're trying to teach someone is to play more. The more you play, the more they'll learn.
People might not believe me, but this last Friday, Evan came to our FNM playgroup and played some Commander with us. He was super fun and he did bring his Feather deck, but played with an Atraxa deck instead. He told us about himself and showed us this video and how he got to meet MaRo and how he got to be on The Command Zone and how excited he was to be knighted. All in all, super fun guy and our playgroup was super glad to meet him!
I should mention that he was wearing the UltraPro swag during the session too lol
Guys, I haven't even made it to the start of the actual episode and I'm already shedding a few tears.
Thank you so much for the channel you have created and for sharing the MTG love. It's not just a game, but a lifestyle that drastically improves who we are as people on this Earth.
Also, I'm an elementary principal. Everything you said about Evan (sp?) is great. It's absolutely great you use your platform to help children out. I just got into magic and you two were part of that. Thank you Jimmy and Josh. you two are absolute inspirations and the fact you use your fame from magic to help others in need is absolutely amazing, powerful, and inspirational. Thank you so much.
Kids need to know it's OK to be what you want to be. It's a powerful message that many kids need to hear.
This is a great episode! Evin is well spoken and was very comfortable there at The Command Zone. Special thanks to Mr. Rosewater for being there as well. Also.. Great topic, timely and pertinent.
As a new player to both Magic in general and also to commander as a format, I can say that Command Zone and Game Knights have played a HUGE role in getting me more and more interested in the format. The way that you guys present information appeals to a wide variety of people with a wide range of skill levels, probably even more than you guys realize. I spent all winter and most of the spring watching and re-watching every episode of Game Knights and Extra Turns so hopefully when I am able to get back to my LGS to play, I can feel more like I "belong" at the table with the more experienced players.
Thank you for all the effort you guys put into the community of magic. I hope this message is seen by all members of the command zone because all of you are all amazing!
Evan! Dude! So thoughtful and eloquent. You rock. Thanks so much for sharing with us. Your generous, joyful spirit is an inspiration.
It's 2019 and I'm deeply, intensely jaded and desensitized to...most everything, these days, but this? this was touching. heart-warming. i felt things. so thanks for that and thanks to evan.
Diplomacy is by FAR the most powerful and useful resource in a commander game. All my games inevitably devolve in some political drama, in the most game of thrones-ish fashion possible, and that is my favourite thing about this format.
Actually I am the one who tries to extort and manipulate other players, even when that backfires I have a ton of fun.
Watching all of the Guests you've had come together to play hours worth of games with Evan was so heartwarming!
I'm literally crying at how awesome you guys are and how amazing this community is
You guys are such a fantastic representation of the magic community. Thank you for being awesome!
I like how he was the only one who was using the mic properly
Already tearing up 2 minutes in, damn life is crazy I'm just so happy that MTG has that special 'magic' to bring us all together, hopefully for the greater good.
I'm not gonna lie, when I saw Evan and heard his story, I thought the sentiment was beautiful and the idea was awesome. That said, I was nervous to continue on, because he's not an established personality, and if I was in his position I would likely choke up/not contribute very much.
I'm very pleased to admit that I was 100% incorrect. Not only did he bring up some great points, he brought a good amount of "insider info" to the discussion, and was a joy to listen to. It's all well and good to claim he's a strong individual given his disease, but that's unfair to him. He's a strong, intelligent kid regardless of his condition, I hope he and his friends continue to kick some ass in commander, and that he eventually is able to do something with the passion and talent he has for the game. A+ episode guys, thanks for the discussion.
Thank you guys for showing such kindness towards a person who started off as a random stranger and soon became a lifelong friend. You rock! Certianly one of my favorite aspects of magic is the sense of comradery.
The MTG community is so amazing. Im so happy to be part of such an accepting and kind community, like all communities we have our bad sour apples but hell i think we do a much better job at making people feel welcome and i hope that both the community and Wizards continues to be so badass.
Something I do when I play against newer players: Play Group Hug. Seriously, play group hug with them, let them see how their deck interacts in an accelerated state. For some people results are how they get enjoyment and my group hug deck is a Kruphix deck with nothing but Group draw and Group Ramp spells. Get everyone's mana out fast, give them 20 cards and see who explodes. If your friend explodes first they get to do what their deck was planning to do and hopefully win! If they get to do what their deck intended and they win quickly, that most of the time equates to a fun experience which effectively gets their foot in the door. Once that is done you help them tune and improve their decks and make them do that same thing without the need for your group hug deck helping them.
Also a big fat No-No that I swear to god I have seen people do and that is play any of the following against new players: Infinite Loops (yes this includes infinite mana even if you cant do anything with it), Stax, Chaos and the worst offender, a CEDH deck. Someone actually thought if he made his friend watch him circlejerk his CEDH deck by turn 3-4 it would be fun for him. Its not fun for new magic players OR new EDH players to watch someone else have fun when they are barely learning. Avoid those deck styles with new players if you want them to have fun and actually enjoy the game with you.
The kid is a natural, great to see him on the show ! Props to Jimmy and Josh to invite him !
Now this! Josh and Jimmy, keep doing all the good things that you do. You guys made very good memories to remember for this kid and his family
you guys honestly take my breath away. this is too good. i love this channel so much, you should all be proud because im speechless and love being a patreon to this incredible channel!!!!!
This episode showed a lot of class from the command zone. Thank you for also shedding some light on disability/illness and providing a terrific example of a living someone, overcoming great pain/tribulations.
This was a great hour.
Thanks...
Some of your tipps will be used.
Best regards from Germany
The first two minutes in, haven't watched anything else, and I already have a huge smile and a nice warm fuzzy feeling!! Thanks guys!! You are the best! :)
This is what life is about!!!! Helping others and having fun, while still getting to do what you love! Peace, love and much appreciation!
I love this community, it's so accepting and welcoming to newbies and old salts alike. So much positivity in the comments section. You all amaze me and I'm happy to be among you all.
This is so cool! Another reason why I love the command zone!
God.. it's always so nice to see others help those who are going through difficult times. Thank you guys for doing this for Evan. You rock Evan!
JLK and JDubbs hittin' home runs for the Commander community! We owe them our support for this effort. Truly, the cause could not be more admirable. Many relatable experiences expressed by Evan for any beginning Commander player. Godspeed to this young man. He's sharp as a knife, and twofold as wise. Good ambassadors create more good ambassadors, and it's in that spirit of growing our community that I salute Evan and The Command Zone!
This is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen, this is why I love our community! Keep doing what you’re doing!
Great episode, Evan's community is lucky to have him!
D (from Node) plays Magic?!? THEY NEED HIM ON GAME KNIGHTS ASAP!
I was so confused when i saw that. They need him on game knights
Are you saying you want the D
D is amazing! NEED TO GET HIM ON GAME KNIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most guys from Node and Corridor plays magic
Now THIS is an ambitious crossover!
Awesome job to all for being part of this. We need more good people in the world.
Thank you for having this kid join you and I just hope that my little brother will get to experience that kind of appreciation from other despite his disabilities so thank you.
I also ran an MTG club in my high school, and something that was really helpful was teaching two new players at the same time and having them play a game against each other and learn by asking questions as they go
Great idea!!!
Been listening and watching now for a long time, Command Zone really makes this game that much more special to all of us. You guys rock, keep up the good work.
So awesome!! This is what I love to see about our community!
On one hand I feel sad for Evan's disability, but on the other I am a slighty jealous he got to play Magic with you guys! Keep up the great work and tons of prayers for Evan's future.
that opening part made me so happy, glad this kid got too have a great time playing magic
Props to you guys for doing this amazing thing but even more props to Evan for fully belonging and contributing to the show. Really did a good job and consistently added interesting insights to the discussion. Also he's got a great speaking voice I love his accent!
Real talk, best episode you guys have ever made!!! I laughed, I cried, I learned stuff, and at the end my Hart feels full. Thank you to for doing this episode.
What a wonderfully inclusive video, with a relevant and interesting topic. Good job guys. And keep it up Evan!
this is absolutely amazing. I imagine for all of you as well as this young man. Good on you for participating.
Absolutely phenomenal! What a fantastic thing to do, CZ. So happy for you, Evan!
big kudos, that's so sweet of y'all. those are some unforgetful memories, which surely changed that kid's life forever!
This is great. Glad to see you guys helping to reach out. Great work!
This has made my week my heart is exploding with joy!
Give this kid a podcast his voice is special in a very nice way.
beautiful thing you guys are doing, you may not realize but you have the power to reach out and help alot of people
This is what it is all about! I am so proud to be a part of this community.
This is the best. Smile on my face the whole time a watched this video . Thank you for all your great work and making dreams come true.
So happy to see the magic community doing great things and just showin love
Soooo next Gamenights featuring Evan Moss?
I have a confession...
I couldn't even get to y'alls title sequence before I had to smash the Like button. Really love that you guys did this for him.
40% of my friends who play Magic, started playing after I said something similar to, "Sit down. Shut up. The five colors of magic are..."
Consider having bigger groups more often. This worked VERY well.
And keep doing good in the world. This warmed my heart
This is just...so heartwarming and nice. Wishing you the very best, Evan. Rock on.
And thanks to you for making this all possible, dear Commandcast :)
Really great episode! Like to see Evan and Mark come back for another episode. Make this happen, guys😀
Not even two minutes in and I’m in tears. Y’all are the best!
Ah! You guys got me in the feels! Great content, even better coming from genuine good people. You guys rock!
Game Knights is my favorite
You guys are amazing. Command zone and Mr Rosewater, that was fantastic. Good job.
With my girlfriend I found a system that worked really well. I bought the cat precon for her. I wrote down every keyword or ability that’s in that deck in a notebook with a thorough explanation. This really helped her because in the middle of a game she wasn’t asking me what this card does without giving away her line or her plays. Broke everything down as a reference sheet
I read about this earlier this week, and oh man. This is wholesome as hell.
Crying before the episode even really starts. So cool of you guys to do this for Evan.
Im not even 2 min into the video, and already my day was made better by seeing the nice things you guys did for Evan
This kid was the bomb and had very good advice. Super great that you guys could get together and be candid with Mark Rosewater too. This show continues to inspire me to get as many people playing magic as possible.
I'm so glad to see this channel work with Make A Wish Foundation. You guys rock and are spreading a great message. This kid was able to enjoy a life changing event.
Makes me so happy in so many ways
evan was articulate and concise in his analysis of new to the format topic. this episode was so good and hit home with me. I too started magic with paper during the origins block and made elfs as my first deck. I also liked his take on introducing people to magic. I used to use my elfs for new player teaching. what I like to do now is play a muli-player 60 card game and let them use my naya dinosaur deck as it is powerful and simple. since it almost always wins it also make their first game "fun" as they smash everyones deck with it. this gives the added benefit of introducing them to muli-player their very first time, since my ultimate goal is to get more players in our meta for commander (sneaky).
This was awesome. I've rewatched it twice already. Evan killed it
Honestly the thing I always tell people is to watch every single game knights video, and start them on the Commander 2018 one.
The videos are very well edited and although fast paced, give a good idea of how the game is played when you know what you're doing. And by watching those videos, if you pause on every card you don't know, you will learn a TON.
Admittedly I picked this game up incredibly quickly compared to most people, but after about 4 days of watching just the commander gameplays, not even any podcasts, I pretty much had a full handle on the game besides the nitty gritty of the stack, priority, and such.
Omg you guys, this made me tear up, thank you for doing this!
Evan is a beast, he has a talent for this man. I dont what to say that others have said better.
Love your insight Evan
Keep up the Awesome!!!