Captain Americas Most Nuanced Story (In Animation)
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- Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes second season isn't looked upon nearly as fondly as the first yet I think it stands on its own very well by expanding the Marvel Universe and the Avengers as a whole. Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes second season puts a heavy focus on fewer Avengers and ion the processes does push some to the wayside but Captain America is one of the Avengers it absolutely nails in this season and I loved it.
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It is night and day how this show handled Secret Invasion and how the MCU handled it.
I still haven't even watched the mcu version lol
thats not even a fair comparison because secret wars isnt a fury story its an avengers story, mcu version is like making an adaptation of OT star wars where yodas the main character and finn kills the emperor, but that just shows how little modern marvel understands the history and impact of what they have and why it became iconic
For sure!
EMH: shows Captain America being replaced and has Skrull Cap take advantage of his position to manipulate people.
MCU: replaces Rhodey off-screen, retroactively ruins emotional moments, and causes plot holes.
Yes EMH actually made a compelling story
EMH to MCU: That’s how you do a Secret Invasion.
Literally the equivalent of the DCAU to the whole DCEU.
A lot of stories done in the DCAU (and other animated universes of DC characters) and they not only managed to miss the point with all it's characters, but also fumble BADLY the stories used.
They literally had the blueprints, and decided to ignore it.
also cap has a really cool line.
I believe spider-man was freaking out because galactus is there and all and he asks cap how he can be so calm, and cap replies "Because I can hear it... Thunder!"
yes it's a thor hype line but I always loved how cap says he can be calm because he knows his allies are helping.
His belief in people is outstanding.
What amazes me to no end is that not only did this show do a darn near perfect adaptation of Secret Invasion, almost even better than the comics did, it also gave a meaningful arc for Captain America, a character who wasn’t even IN the original Secret Invasion story! That’s some masterful story-crafting and character writing right there. This show really did a lot of things right in doing justice to the source material ✨
That is the true power of adaption of it honors the source material. They used what they knew of that story to create a fresh new one that honored the old but still had its own merits
@hikaruchan16 the entire episode Prisoner of War is my all time favorite Captain America thing ever. He was so cool in that episode!
I love how Zemo is always depicted as one of THE most dangerous villains, when he has no powers. 😂😂
But when you read the comics, watch the movies, or the show, you can see why everyone treats him like such a collosal threat😂
Zemo is *HIM*
I like that in this show, Cap is willing to release Abomination and the Executioner, but he won't release Zemo. He is a big threat.
@@bowserbreaker2515 lol even the Leader😂
But Zemo? 😔✋🏿 Nah
He's not a threat in the movies. There, he's just a joke.
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What?! You seriously Think he wasn’t a Threat in Civil War or the Falcon & Winter Soldier Tv show?!
Let’s be honest, Live Action will always feel Limited! But when you still get the Fundamentals down for a Character, it still works because the Character(s) are able to suit the Story being told!
It was a really interesting creative liberty having Bucky Barnes actually die in WWII, but then having be brought back by the combined wish of both Captain America and Strucker. I was even more shocked when it's revealed that Bucky was the one who shot out Fury's right eye in this series.
Bucky being the one who shot out Fury's eye is such a good detail, like Punisher helping Fury on Winter Soldier (MCU theory that I recall either the Russo's or the writers confirm it was their intention lol)
I thought the cube was revealed to be a dud, since nothing happened.
Meanwhile the MCU does it VIA a cat
@@kevinskywalker5539 No, We literally see it change history
We flashback, and see it make Bucky survive (we see the Cubes blue glow)
@@jesusramirezromo2037exactly
The other reason why the costumes changed was cause Disney wanted all of the characters costumes to look exactly like the ones in the MCU. They put the show on hiatus for a year because of this and dragged out this skrull plot. Then after it ended they replaced it with Avengers assemble with the Avengers looking more like the MCU versions. It's a pity I preferred avengers earths mightiest Heroes as a cartoon. I loved the look and aesthetics of the characters and the world which was similar to Jack Kirby's art work and the stories. I was also looking forward to seeing more plots with Dr Doom, the X-Men and the F4.
The MCU did this show dirty. I would have loved it if Doctor doom became a major villain in season 3 but I love every second of screen time he got in this series
4:50 I’ve just now realized that was a huge foreshadowing look at his shadow it’s not captain America’s shadow even before the reveal that he was a skrull
What a like about the Purple Man Episode is that Vision knew from the start that Cap was not himself so he used the speech that Cap gave to him to help break free Cap.
Did steve rogers ever get family? Not like a wife and kids but like... He was frozen for 50 years, his brother could be 90 years old but still alive and with his own family.
nah. Mom is dead even before he got the serum, & Bucky was the closest thing he had to a surrogate son.
You know what’s funny this show did both secret invasion and kind of a version of secret empire with Skrull cap technically speaking being sort of hydra cap but done better then the comics ever did in my opinion.
I could be wrong but wasn't the "real" cap inside the cosmic cube and hydra cap was in fact an imposter?
@@jacklansdale77I think so yes but I don’t really remember because it’s been a very long time since I read that trainwreck of an event.
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One long explanation later that's pretty much what happened plot wise and the inside cube good cap was released and bested hydra cap for the plot. Shame they had Stan Lee in his final years come out to in an attempt to quell the animosity for said plot line
@@arandomchannel3687 Modern day comics are nothing like what Stan Lee wanted.
You're probably one of the best youtubers I've seen cover EMH.
On a side note, this was the best adaptation of Secret Invasion and it made me feel disappointed with the MCU more than i already was 😅
So if it wasn't for the Kree, there wouldn't be a wormhole destroying the sun, Kang's wife wouldn't have stuck in time and thus Kang wouldn't time travel to conquer earth. How the hell did Kang's time travel investigations didn't know of the Kree's involvement? If it did, he would have gone for that faction instead.
Potential but of course we don’t really know
Mostly a mixture of Ego and the Skrull.
Fake cap caused the Kree to go with the sun wormhole.
Fake cap also nearly got everyone on earth killed.
Fake cap is responsible for a lot of the damage and dominos.
Kang just took one look and blamed the first face he saw as we are not even sure if the original incident had fake cap being the one who caused the mission to fail... So that they get the wormhole.
Ego was his main downfall and that is why he didn't double check his facts.
Especially since he could have simply said "Captain America. You do not belong here. Let me take you back to your timeline."
Which could have fixed a lot of problems.
We need a sympathetic villain, don't' think too much about it, if you do, you will start to think that this whole "kree/ultron impersonating captain america" is a cheap idea (which it is, but then again don't think too much about it).
You miss understand, Kang knew of the Kree, he told the avengers
Captain America's presence in the past changed the future, erasing his timeline, Since now, the sun was never destroyed, so Kang never would come to conquer it afterwards
It's not a timeloop
Because cap was an anomaly, he didn't wake up in Kangs timeline so as soon as Kang's computers identified that fact he tunnel visioned
so sad disney had to cancel master pieces like this to make trash...
That’s what they are known for now
One detail I really like about Captain America's character that a lot of his depictions seem to forget, but I feel like was handled decently (if not explicitly) in EMH is that Cap is supposed to be the peak of human condition, not only physically but also *mentally*. He can bounce around his shield not because it's super special or the vibranium gives it that unique property; it certainly does help, but Cap's mind does the heavy lifting. Even if he is not particularly science smart, his brain is able to process information at the highest speed a human being should be capable of, allowing him to perfectly predict the trajectory of the shield.
This depiction Cap displays it in ample quantities, and a very good example is the Purple Man episode, as you stated. He is very in tune with the people he works with and knows how to push their buttons to inspire them to greatness. He doesn't allow himself to be deceived, because as trusting and willing to believe in people as he is, he knows who to put his trust on and who isn't willing to be helped.
He may not be the most learned individual, but he is decidedly the peak of ingenuity and insightfulness, and he sticks to his principles to the very end.
4:48 You can see a Skrull shadow here. This show was Brilliant.
Wonder how long Thor is expecting Caps reputation to stay ruined, he is an immortal asgardian so Thor could be speaking of decades, although asgardian grudges would last longer with longer lives.
This episode scared me as a kid cause no one knew it was a fake and he stayed with them for so long
The skrull invasion arc was done so well, they simultaneously made cap even cooler and better by showing him survive the skrulls torture and free their prisoners, leading the freedom
16:30 i totally agree. Its even funnier because so many animals in nature ALSO have unyielding spirits, they just dont have the logic to use it as effectively as us, but i think its a trope because its easy to imagine bigger, stronger, faster, smarter enemies, and its also natural to root for underdogs, and acting like humanities spirit is amazing is an easy, unmeasurable way to turn the tide, make "sense" and support the underdog motif in fiction. However this makes me wonder how a "more unyielding" alien species would act. logically theres only so unyielding you can get, and an alien species that embodies that would probably seem irrational to us (space marines??)
amazing video btw, EMH is super underrated and youve been doing an awesome job vocalizing why i like it so much
indomitable. Thats the word I meant to use instead of unyielding but i forgot it.
Well humanity has thrived historically because we have more stamina than the things we hunted and were able to adapt to problems not just by learning but also by teaching the things that make humanity special historically really are our ability to just keep going longer than everything else and change when that alone doesn't work
To me as a kid i never saw the skrull take caps place so when te reveal did happen i was shocked as hell
Season 2 is EMH isn't quite as strong as the first, but it's still really fantastic. This version of Secret Invasion is better than the comics and way better than the MCU.
I kinda find it amusing how the skrull wore a suit very similar to the 1610 Ultimate Universe variant of Captain America, very telling how much the writers and creative team made sure to put in as much detail and love in as possible
I like the detail that it’s his ultimate universe suit. Making a sneaky commentary that Ultimate Captain America isn’t the real Cap.
Nah the line about name, rank, and serial number was so cold it stuck with until this day after I saw it as a kid
Adding to the Cap v Cap. The real Captain America used a stone knife, one of the first tools of humanity. Kinda cool.
16:15, funnily enough that's pretty much how we beat every other species on earth for the dominant spot, so it'd make sense that if we were to beat aliens it'd be in the same way
I can't wait for hanks breakdown for season 2
this was an amazing retrospective on the final cap arcs and the love letter to such a great show. R.I.P season 3
This is how storytelling should be
Good morning everyone, glad we can wake up to PEAK yet again
God man, another reminder of how much miss this show. This show was made by a bunch of comic book nerds (I think of what I have read so far) which this series was originally made for the “Hulk” but became so much more (if you want further details, just look it up). It wasn’t the Avengers movie that introduced me to most of the these characters. It was this show that I watched on Disney XD along side with Ultimate Spider-man (to me, a guilty pleasure show now but today I prefer or recommend Spectacular). But great analysis man you definitely get my subscribe.
Edit: sorry man I just wanted to fix something’s
Another peak video, I absolutely love hearing you dive into these characters and storylines. Thank you so much for putting these videos out
Was it just me or where Vipra and Cap kinda a vibe in the show. I very much remember thinking that the two would end up getting together when I was a kid
I miss this spectacular gem of series
Steve Rogers is the fucking goat
10:32 I think it's because of his training/life as a soldier. Soldiers are meant to hold up against torture when interrogated, as they cannot afford to give their plans to the enemy.
29:10 Also, that episode did show Tony has also grown, as even when he's aware he can't really do anything, he still tries to help.
The producers of the show used captain america vol 3 #8 as an inspiration for this storyline along secret invaison that cameout 10 years after that comic.
In the comics a fake agent of hydra who was an skrull replace captian america and tried to generate panic and ruined his image, so cap escaped and atopped the skrull evil plan
This was a good arc for Captain America from having his Identity Stolen and his repartition ruined but he still kept to his Hero ideals seeing him The only one to believe Hulk’s Innocent seeing that Vision could be more than what he was created for and his respect for Spider-Man always doing the right thing even when the world is against him.
I wanted to say, sadly for a long time there was not much content about this show on CZcams. I would check every couple of months, and there'd be one or two good videos at most per year.
It makes me so happy that you have been pumping them out on a regular basis.
Honestly Season 2 was my favorite season of this show. I might go back & rewatch the show for a third time.
9:33 EMH confirmed Hulk used to be Gray in this universe
Man I love this guys videos it fr make my day Idk how a 50 min video can end so fast
All these episodes made me a Cap fan especially with him getting our Hulk back and not trusting Red Hulk one bit
17:35 At the very least they had the decency to not destroy Bucky's statue.
Always like the design of Skrull Captain America always wanted MCU Cap to adopt this look especially the force field shield or thought Bucky should get a force field shield with his arm
I remember during the Secret Invasion arc of season 2, I always found Queen Veranke really annoying. I know in the comics, Norman Osborn kills Veranke by impaling her with the American flag straight out of the Patriot, and I just wished we had something akin to that in Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
4:50 totally has a skrull in the shadow. Never noticed that before
Double ads every three minutes should be an illegal thing to do, but the video was good
14:58 MORE LIKE:
*DOCTOR DOOM Finding the way to*
18:37 I always knew that, deep inside I knew, there should have been spectacular Spider-man. I hate you, Disney!
Now hear me out... they took Hulk's body to swap out... whos gonna stop him 😂
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Fell o- Nah just kidding. This gonna be a fun watch.
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In other words captain america always believes in people even when they don't believe in themselves.
This is why this is my Favourite Version of Captain America!
EMH Forever!
Were so back, just in time for breakfast
I would love one day for another seasons of this show. I was waiting for captain America and Viper to be a thing because there were a chemistry between them. It would have been amazing to see that on screen ❤️🇦🇺
This reminds of the Secret Empire event that came out after the show. Although this show was way better written than that.
The power of the indomitable human spirit
Vid was amazing, but I need that Iron Man armored adventures Pt 2 ❤
wow that last bit really got me. damn good show.
3 questions
1. How would you feel if “The Deadliest Man Alive” was the 15th episode of the series instead of Powerless ?
2. How would you feel if Spider-Man interacted with more heroes in EMH ?
3. When did Captain America get kidnapped twice ? I thought he was only kidnapped once by the Skrulls unless if you want to count the time, he was kidnapped by the Masters of Evil.
1. Honestly I felt powerless while an amazing episode felt far to episodic and was just kinda shoved in the best place it could fit which was ep 15
2 I wish we saw more Spider-Man but the season itself was already so busy we would have to sacrifice more screen time from other avengers who already didn’t have a lot of it
3 he was kidnapped and replaced by skrulls, then faked being replaced by ultron, then he was controlled by Purple man. Honestly that line was setting up a joke I had to just completely forgot to follow through on lol
My Goat ❤️
Love your videos men. I hope you do more X men evolution down the line.
Wait I swear this show was canceled before we got to see what happened to Steve and the Skrulls, I've never seen past that cliffhanger.
It wasn't it got canned after the 26th episode of season 2
Your voice is immaculate brother
This will always be my favorite depiction of Captain America.
SECOND SEASON TIME
Also this might be insane, I would still bark for Red Skull Virus Wasp
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9:25 Because of course, the military doesn't ever see race. /s
I saw all the vids up to this point lol
21:20 oh no! is the man behind the slaughter!
16:28 Yeah that gets annoying after a while. Just once I'd like a story where a non-human species has more of an indomitable will and determination than humans.
Amazing Video, definitely going to subscribe and watch your other content 👍
Cap ran towards the fake hammer like ooo ooo i always wanted to use this
Are you going to do the thanos of this animation series?
t was great today video
Weren't comic skulls identical in every minute way, even in memories?
Like they wouldn't even remember being skrulls themselves until their memories are activated?
The wiki says they don't gain the characteristics of the people they shape shift into but that might have been retconned.
Like u, i love both season
S1 is great ad building the word, but not just ad S2 but and some point in s1 the show lust let the world bread and use the story's from the comics and a little of them self to make a amazing series
16:16 Thank you! The indomitable human spirit is such a positive and uplifting message, but people just had to apply this weird human supremacy angle to it. It's why I can not stand HFY stories.
It's so peak dawg 😩😩😩
18:44 Josh Keaton is actually in this episode because they forgot to dub over one of his lines.
It’s very quick, he says something to the extent of “Is this safe?” but it’s very distinctly him and not Dr*ke Bell
as usua, the undominable human spirit saves the world
I mean yeah but there’s no cgi drax arms
cap is the only one that hulk actualy respects beside black widow
cus cap is the only one who called him hulk in the mcu
and everyone else called him bruce
Your videos are amazing but Jesus christ chill on the ads
spiderman vid perhaps?
my question is just how the real captain america was able to fix his broken suit on the skrull ship?
Woulda been awesome if Skrull Cap would be just as honorable as Real Cap was. Cuz at this point, Real Cap's sense of honor is so stronkk it might as well be a superpower, and Skrulls do love copying superpowers.
Make a vídeo about captain Marvel
so is he dead?
Now make a vídeo about wolverine spider Man and the fantastic four
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Why does cap have a serial number
Military thing from WW2, America Prisoners of War would recite what Captain America said then refuse to give the enemy information
Generic comment for the skrulls.
Marvel animated did it way better. Mcu did civil war well. I tried to watch the mcu s.i. and got bored.
mmmm yummy cap
Honestly I like Drake Bell voice as Spider-Man than Keaton but I will die on this hill. Also the episode that guest starred Spider-Man helping Cap is one of my favorite episodes. "I know who you are Spider-Man I've talked to the firefighters, police, and people you saved you do this without recognition reward or even thanks"
I like both Voice actors. They both have range :)
@@danielramsey6141 yeah now if you wanna do a Spider Man ripoff you hire Keaton
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