PA killing the EU economy in 4k [Black Desert Online]
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
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This is good for the new player and bad for the old player, it is a subjective conversation and treat it as such as it may or may not benefit you but overall it's a detrimental thing that's occurring.
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Content:
0:00 - Intro & BS/Godr Explanation
1:13 - BDO Economy in a nutshell
1:38 - PA's changes that got us here
2:42 - Blackstar Enhancing, Crons Stones & Explanation
5:44 - How to Fix This Situation?
7:00 - The DEATH of Godr-Ayed
10:48 - It's a Crisis on EU - Hry
To be fair, using vendor crons to tap Blackstars has not been the cheapest option for a long time. Raw tapping and manually getting it back up to TET has been (and still is) cheaper for a long time, if your system is set up correctly. Right now, we just experience a phase where buying TET and selling TRI is cheapest for the mainhand and awakening (currently not the offhand, but that might change), but after the backlog of TETs is used up, that might change again. And enhancing Blackstars for profit was never THE enhancing for profit method (more of a nice extra to get PEN stacks), accessories have been and are the golden standard. And accessory prices get changed every second week with the addition of drop events and the likes, so we are used to the market fluctuating a lot. So killing the EU economy is a bit much^^
PA is just braindead. I always told people that increasing vendor cron prices will cause future issues to the market and to the economy overall. Yet some players were arguing and coping with this change.
True
Here on Na, memory fragments are getting ridiculous and PA won't add any way to get them cuz they get a ton of money from artisans.
100% true
Another advantage of buying tets and try V is if it fails your failstack goes +6 thats way better then the +1 from crons
The economy fixes itself. You worry too much bro. Nothing can break the economy because after it gets broken, the new norm is the broken economy, so If you are not affected too badly about it then please do not bother. I know making pen black star is easier but do not make a mistake of not helping the newcomers and keep the game alive. Everybody gotto catch up to game you know.
I suspect when fallen god / slumbering weapons arrive they will have a cron event where you get 2-3x the cron from pearl outfits just to get people to even bother going for it. I mean sure the top tier will always to ready to go for it, but to get the masses there like they did with caphras event when ator's came.
Any opinion on hurricane sweep losing its 200 HP on skill activation and it being replaced with 30 HP per hit? Or any opinion on all the changes to mystic they've been doing?
Absolutely none, trivial changes that's mainly pvp focus without that much pvp impact to begin with. They are basically swinging the carrot on a stick for the Mystic player base.
So basically you want things that should be hard to obtain be remain harder because its suppose to be that way and for PA not to give assistance as heavy as giving out a TET: Blackstar Weapon of choice towards the players and just let them suffer when they release the new weapons in the incoming LOML Part 2?
Don't get me wrong, i know you mentioned that it seems to be an EU specific issue, however that's the concern itself. Its an EU specific issue. What did you guys do to have your economy get tanked by a single change? The thing with your video is you just blame PA whereas you don't even see that while yes PA can drive the economy, players at the same time can as well.
I play in SEA servers and we're not having issues like this. We still have caphra stones, we get our cron stones may it be from costume or the vendor. People are putting POs for TET/PEN Godr and the TET/PEN Blackstar. We ran out of scorching sun shards the other day but as of today its there back in the market. Sure its priced higher now but its to be expected as some will want to upgrade their Godr weapons.
I don't know. For me it seems you guys ruined your marketplace long before this issue came thus resulting to this predicament.
Hey man, to answer shortly. EU is subjected to multiple world economy standards in terms of income. That results into less Outfits on the Marketplace for an example. Because our main silver value is unbalanced the economy shifts towards this.
To answer your furthermore:
- It's PA's fault for adding free IV BS to the market further messing with marketplace values, it's PA's fault for thinking that 1 dollar is equivalent to 1 euros and selling EU costumes per NA pricing. It's PA's fault for the cron changes which was uncalled for EU and was a generalized change. It's 100% Pear Abyss' fault for the left state of Godr-Ayed.
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If im going to base this on your statement then that's a little weird. PA barely gets money with TH and SEA servers hence they combined us to cut costs. As of last year i've only spent a total of $70 USD (Php 3,886.96) and the previous year was $65 USD (Php 3,609.32) on the pearl store. So even PA barely gets anything from me. Hence why i say its weird.
What i'm thinking is that people on EU servers are possibly holding on to their caches/loots such as the caphra stones to say the least, to manipulate the market. Yeah sure you may have stock or not but those stocks would be coming from players and not PA. Like what I said, devs can influence how items flow and cost in a game but at the same time players can as well.
Hm I don’t get it. You say enhancing trim to tet is not worth cause there r so many tets on the market but then who’s buying these failed pen try’s tri s from the market? I have a sellable tet awk weapon and a 246 stack. Should I stop using crones and just risk tap it next time? When I fail I sell the tri and buy another tet?
Lmao watch the Video
Black star has been expensive since it came out, so it's had a good 5 years of being a high profit margin item. If you enhance. Enhance. There are several other things that you can make money from on the market, but I know some people just can't be pulled away from monster grinding.
Wow that price for TET is so low dangggggg
Feel like a old men Crone stone were a meme in my time.
Imo i see this was their plan. Once you get past pen blackstar and boss then make god versions, it would force everyone to buy outfits either thru market or real cash. Even with all these events going from pri to duo is 1500 cron with 5% chance with 130 fs. You are not going to get even 1 of them past duo let alone all of them PRI unless you saved a years worth and had event amount. The avarage player would eant to cron it and if its only $25-30 for a outfit it might be worth it then to lose progression.
As a console player this the bs prices are already dying we jus got Godr and tet bs next week patch its jus going down rapidly 🙄 its sad
Lower amount of cron stone need It only for bs and god eye
Not a bad idea for the blackstar but godr will still be lacking in my eyes. I'd love to see Godr-Ayed have a Manos approach instead, perhaps...
Agreed, God ayed needs safer and cheaper progression. Fallen god weapons will switch it up again@@VerdictLovesYou
@@VerdictLovesYou yeah but still need a cron without using FS just like manos enhacing
The economy will normalize. You can look at the pen crescent ring market as well. It crashed after calpheon ball, but has started to come back. It’s not all doom and gloom
Funny how people always come around to argue this point and then 2 weeks later it's worse :) (right now there are 7 blackstars sitting IV and market is crashing III
Then you haven't seen the EU console economy. That's even shittier 😂
I genuinely feel bad for our console players... you guys do not deserve this...
Content wise we're so far behind PC, the weekly pearl shop is discounts on penta boxes ongoing since months xD
Economy on central market is even worse 😂
We just got godr eyed weapons for ewxample
I see no problem here. Yes, prices for BS are gonna dip a bit. Yes, EU market prices are weird compared to other regions. Yes, there are less costumes coming to the market, but the rest of it is dirt cheap as well. It is still balanced but in its own way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
lower cron stone price
I think you just dont realized why they doing that. They are about to release the dead god weapons so with that the max lvl cap of AP will increase and with that to not loosing the new player they have to uncrease the level of the player and make them reach the level you haved already reached with your account.
I think you dont realize because you passed the levels progression because you are already to hight level to understand anymore the amount of hours to reach your current level.
If you see that from a beginner coming from another game it's hard to understand why you have to farm thousands of hours just to reach your levels when the new dead god weapon will arrived with ton of new hight lvl zones and maybe more new content.
I hop you will understand ^^'
Thanks for the input but do you realize that by them making caphras & crons irrelevant, that impacts the smallest player more than anyone else? I think you've convinced yourself that the up above is true :(
The tuvala players make most of their income from caphras and trash, this current state of the game impacts everyone horribly. And don't skip over the fact that crons are completely irrelevant for anyother that's not enhancing Deboreka & Fallen God armors with the occasional V disto/dawn click if the market allows it.
@VerdictLovesYou that's true that's impact the current economie but these changement change also what the beginner will farm for profit. For exemple when you came out of the season you finish full pen tuvala with around 250 AP and the Tet black stars will give you +8 so you take your PEN capotia access you reach easily the cap for grinding stars end and try to get a distortion earing or the hystria ruins with the tungrad. You got more option to farm and get money as a beginner and reach some bracket to evolving your income. That's also help the younger player to save caphars to change them armors to evolve into a deadgod than just selling it to increasing the AP only.
I think that's will affect the leveling to reaching the actual softcap but that will be less bothering when the new soft cap will arrived with the deadgod weapon. It's a ''bad'' for a big ''plus'' cuz that's will bring a lot of new player and increase the demand of the next incoming gears
You trash casuals should also put in the same.amount of effort and hours as we did. That's the issue.
@gianmarco2524 like allways causal player mindset 👏 Men if you can still playing this game it's because you have some casual player coming back into the game and spend money on it. If you don't understand the principale point to do a video game enterprise is the benefit of it you will definitely good only to grind.
But keep grinding like a bot all day and when you will awake after reaching the highest level of your game ask your self why did you grind all this days ? Was it worth ?
Wtf purple BS tri cost 15B????
Increase chance of sucess to PEN (;
Profit enhancing never really existed aside from rare fringe cases. Might as well be going on about perpetual motion machines.
That's not really true. Having a free 100 stack is already profit no matter how you look at it for the purpose of tapping something on that.There are people out there like BioHack, Salt etc. that have done nothing but enhance for profit to the extreme and have reached trillions of silver.
Saying profit enhancing never existed couldn't be a more false statement.
That is the most erroneous statement I’ve seen in a while lol. It is incredibly easy to make massive profits enhancing
Lets just say the guy that spends 15 minutes not making a single point about why this is bad for the economy isn't the guy that has extensive knowledge on enhancing for profit.
@whitenight82 but you said it doesn't exist except for rare fringe cases? I literally just tapped a tri tung belt the other day from grinding UG and made tons of profit because I didn't buy any of them or use crons. On top of that I used a 50fs for tri. Enhancing for profit is literally a huge part of many players' silver gains.
Absolute futility to dwell on this for a simple reason. Blackstar weapons are already dead just like Blackstar armor because of the upcoming Fallen God weapons. If the progression to Fallen God is the same as it is for armor, even if they raise the requirement from C10 to C20, the progression to Fallen God will still cost around 50-70bil in base, this will absolutely bury Blackstar weapons in price.
Yep. If they don't make FG weapons at least 200b I swear to god.
What a thumbnail lmfaoo
my take on blackstar: a cheat gear to allow players to reach high monster ap
my idea: remove blackstar from the game and make boss weapons meta again. Why? -> Because the "end-game spots" aren't endgame as long as you have the pen blackstars. The end-game spots would be a true end-game spot when you grind it with weapons that doesnt give you 100 bonus monster ap.
You are curious "How do i grind tungrad ruins then?!" and i tell you here's how:
- +15 AP furniture buff (you will hunt for it).
- Full elixir rotation (you have plenty of elixirs on marketplace to not worry about it anymore)
- simple cron meal, villa buff, church buff
- full PEN accs (thats why they're called end-game Spots, so only end-game players will grind the spot and not every average pve andy with 3 pen blackstars and a full pve crystal set)
- optimal build for specific spots (so you actually have to prepare to grind a end-game spot, expecting the monsters to be a true danger)
- PvE crystals (ofc you already have these)
I HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM A X3 PEN BLACKSTAR ENJOYER TOO. But the game isn't challenging anymore, its just a brainless grindfest where you either run in circle or stand still, i know the game needs to be easier to bait new players (that will quit anyway after 2-3 months cuz the game is too boring for them and can't bother grinding 1k hours to get decent gear)
We also need to remove marni realm and other stuff because its not healthy for the game but that's for another speech.
Thanks for listening to my frustration about this game, have a nice day :)
Tenes razon pero es normal que PA cada tanto haga alguna cagada... y calculo que quieren sacar la proxima arma por eso hacen lo que hacen
Dead Shit Game
Maybe ban the NA players using a vpn to play on EU since its a TOS violation which wouldnt force yalls market to be so trash due to the inflexion of NA players wanting the EU BS