The Design of this is Genius! - Nemo Moonlander Table - Impressive Folding
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Without a doubt, I have never seen anything like this table before.
The Design is INSANELY smart but there is a BUT.....a Big One!
This is the Nemo Moonlander Table and this is my Agenda Free Review.
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Nemo Moonlander Table - Ingenious Design
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What it is : The Moonlander is a two stage (dual height) table made by Nemo; an outdoor company that is well known for their tents, sleeping bags and outdoor products.
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Weight : 4lbs 14oz
Dimensions When Stored :
Table Top Dimensions :
With Legs Height : 16”
Without Legs Height : 4”
Capacity : 100lbs
Materials : Nylon, Aluminum, Polyester
Color : Nemo calls this Boreal
Price : $150
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From the Company :
Smooth, impervious, and durable tabletop surface is made of heat stabilized nylon to endure the elements and clean easily.
Dual-height design offers low picnic blanket setup or deploy hidden legs for elevated side table.
High-quality hardware brings next level detail, durability, and clean aesthetic.
Custom-engineered aluminum hinges are overmolded into the tabletop for a lifetime of performance.
Aluminum legs are integrated with zinc pole tips for a stable and supportive outdoor camp table.
Side table height stands tall at 16 inches, while picnic height (intended to be used without chairs) provides a convenient platform at 4 inches.
Setup is intuitive, quick, and easy - simply open for picnic level or connect and insert legs with a twist lock for side table height. Includes a sharply designed, padded case.
Easily fits into the laptop sleeve of a backpack or soft cooler for easy carry.
Protected by the NEMO Lifetime Warranty.
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Thanks : Thank you to Kimberly for putting this product on my radar.
Pros :
Great form factor
Excellent design - smart!
Quick and easy to deploy and to break down
Dual heights
Nice case
Excellent materials
The top of the table is Imprevious!
Table is solid and hefty; makes for a good platform to cook on and won’t blow over easily
Table top has shown no sign of use as of yet
Construction is very good; nothing feels fragile here and at this time after a few months of use, I don’t foresee any specific issues in the future
Lifetime Warranty
Cons :
Expensive - there are many less expensive camp tables out on the market with most being made by Chinese companies; This does feel a lot more stable than many that I have personally tested out. Also, it is easier to set up than most. There are a few name brand companies like Big Agnes, Eureka, who make camp tables as well and their pricing is virtually the same as this.
Heavy - consider that this table weighs almost 5lbs and then consider how you plan to use it. For most backpacking trips this is too heavy to bring along but if your loadout is light enough you can certainly make it work.
For camping purposes that is where this is going to shine.
Not the tallest of tables nor the largest of table tops
The top of the table could look a bit better in my opinion for the high cost. As is, you can see molding points which did surprise me a bit. For the money, I expected a better looking table top - it’s not bad but I’m sure you agree, it could look a bit better.
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Summary :
After using this table for the last couple of months, I’ve grown to really like it. I’ve carried it on backpacking adventures;
when going lightweight enough in other areas for this to make sense.
I’ve used it for camping trips.
I’ve used it in the back of my truck when overlanding.
The quality is great, the design is smart, the form factor is very compact and fairly lightweight, it’s easy to deploy, easy to breakdown and stow.
The biggest problem for this product is the price and only you can decide whether or not it makes sense for you.
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Oh! I've been eagerly awaiting your review of this. So glad you liked my suggestion. 😊👍🏻
Having some experience in the injection molding industry I can tell you that the slight discoloration is an inherent problem in molding,it can be mitigated but it requires pre melting of the plastic then mixing then injecting it all while keeping it molten. This requires extra equipment and is more expensive to do. As it's pretty pricey already I'm betting that this is the reason it wasn't done. As far as the visible mold lines, at bit thicker and those would disappear but that adds weight which of course would totally knock it out of the backpacking realm.
Sterco units, and adjust the speed of the injection.
Thank-you for chiming in about this. To me, seeing those "flaws" was a sort of confirmation to me that they made a point of minimizing cost and weight while still keeping it structurally sound. If people want it to look prettier, it would be even heavier and more expensive.
Or add more volume.
Those are also high-stress points in the molding process; if the plastic was clear you'd be able to see the stress lines under a polariscope. These are the weak points, although are they weak enough to cause actual issues over time? Only time will tell.
It makes me wonder how much heavier? :)
Hi, Luke. We have had this table for about 2.5-3 years. This table has worked great. The only issue we had was the twisting locking mech has broken on all the poles. I contacted Nemo customer service so I could replace the legs as I have used this for over 75 trips. They sent 4x new poles for free, I sent pics of the issue. Great camping table.
I’m a huge fan of Nemo products. They thought that goes into their product design is amazing. The warranty can’t be beat. I’ve been wanting to pick up one of these tables but I just can’t get myself to spend $150 on it. I think I’ll watch for a sale and get one. Thanks for the review.
Same, I try not to be a fanboy of nay brand or company but Nemo and Gregory have never let me down and it frustrates me to see bandwagoning hate for brands because they don't produce "the" ultralight tent or "the" ultralight pack or "the" ultralight pad. People cheer their failures or whatever reason. Competition is good! Options are great.
Yeah try one of their sleeping bags lol
yeah price is bit high 70 bucks id be in
Have you tried the FlipFuel fuel transfer device?
We kept finding we needed a folding table. This is so easy to store. czcams.com/users/postUgkxStL0QRChBju4aQlnTrRgBZvafFog0KU3 Opening and closing is easy as well. It has a great handle for carrying around the house. Its pretty lightweight and slides around easy. We bought it for our daughter’s first sleepover. Breakfast was a blur - but 12 7-8 year olds fit at the table with room to spare. We used it at thanksgiving and 6 adults fit comfortably on each side plus 2 on either end for a total of 8. Super easy to clean up afterwards as well.
Wow, I’ve learned so much watching your channel. I’m a single mom of one gal and one boy. I’ve been trying to teach them what I am learning from your channel and about the outdoors. I appreciate everything you do! Thank you and God Bless!!!!! P.S. can you make an episode of a good family tent for three or four people??
I am also a single mumma but I on;y 1 son left at home. He is 11 and I also try to teach him things from this channel and get him to watch some especially about how to tell a good product from a not so good 😊
@@hetheringtonfamily8798 hi, that’s great! It’s amazing how many things we do not think and get reminded or taught when we watch these videos. There’s so many things to learn and our children are our motivation to do so. Many Blessings!
I'd love to hear about a good family tent too for those not going backpacking. I run a AHG troop that camps a lot and most of our families will have at least a momma come out with their girls. When they are older, the girls camp together and the adults share a tent. But when younger, they seem to prefer to tent with their parents.
Maybe you can use your influence with Nemo with an idea that would be really cool… Maybe, adding some telescoping legs built-in to these legs, similar to trekking poles, where you can adjust the level of your table when camping. Very rarely do I find perfectly flat spots to put a table so therefore I have not purchased a table yet because I can use logs or rocks. Just a thought and I think it would take this table to a whole different level.
This is a perfect camping table. I purchased one in 2021 when it was first released and just picked up a second for the purpose of there’s never enough table space at the campsite. When I’m not camping, I use these as bed side tables. They’re the perfect size for my small studio apartment & am stoked to have found a dual purpose for them.
Great review!
You had me until the $150 part.
What country is it made ?
@@prmath "Imported"
So it's probably from China
Definitely not budget friendly.
@Judiel Gonzalez exactly. I saw an all aluminum car camping table at Walmart today for $30. Does the same thing and probably would last longer than the plastic.
I'm not sure why you'd think anyone pays retail
I love this BUT: Why didn’t they design it so there’s a 3rd option? If the legs sections were separate and clicked together slightly differently then you could have low, medium and high options by just using the foot sections of the legs by themselves.
I was thinking the same thing
A great after market option would be a set of 4 9inch leg segments that can fit in the same carrying slots ….. that being said instead of spending $150 bucks for something like this I think I could make a table this size using two pieces of wood hinged together, and legs from dowels or threaded barstool, folded down size could be about the same, and while the weight will be a little more, gonna be a lot more sturdy and durable. And let’s be honest…. As he said this isn’t for backpacking , so shaving those ounces is not as important.
This is great for what it is, but you can get the same functionality with a little creativity using more budget friendly products
Maybe just make them telescopic like trekking poles?
@@cobbler88 not a terrible idea. My luck though my dinner would go flying when I screwed up and didn't get one locked in LOL.
@@rjstewart Yeah. I"m going to have to issue a hard pass on this one, but people can camp their own style.
Reminds me of a children's pop up book : Genius design.
From someone who works in retail, a reminder that when a company says the product has a "lifetime warranty", it means the average lifetime of the product with normal use. NOT your lifetime.
Excellent review! As you were navigating through your finer points, the most important observation I had right of the bat as far as negativity was the height. As an off-roader who works remotely, having a light-weight product like this to use as a desktop for my laptop is critical. Not being able to use this with a high chair poses a challenge, but not enough to rate this product below a 5/5 star. I really adore the fact that it can be used at a low enough height, functional enough to deploy as a tabletop in a 2-3 person tent. All-in-all, my assessment is aligned with yours. Excellent product! TY
I love elegant design, like a good knife, and axe, a saw, a fine tent, the chair you sit in, and now this table. Thanks, Luke. Texas
I bought this table and camped with it all winter this year. Weight was not an issue because I used a sled. I love this table! A friend and I used this for dining and it worked great. MY con is that I am tall and prefer taller chairs which when watching makes this a bit short. I have been looking for a better solution but I just cut some PVC and slid them over the existing legs to make it taller. It worked, but wish it extended another 6” taller. Overall though, I love it.
Agreed. I can use it for my smaller camping chair.. but on my Nemo stargazer table I just can’t eat off of it. I never used it.. it still had the label on it and I bought it in February from REI. Tried to return it today but they only offer a 1 yr on all products not to do with outdoors. Wtf?!!! Haha now I guess I gotta use it.
As you said, it all depends on what you're willing to spend and how it fits in to the type of camping you want to do. This does look like a really nice piece of kit for different settings.
Another straight to the point ,all business product review.Luke you are the man .✌️
Really nice folding table. Thanks for showing.
I have been using Nemo products for years, they are very good. I would really like one of these tables but I just can't justify the price. Great content and production as usual Luke. Best Regards Ivan
Thanks for reviewing. This table is really cool.
Hey man really appreciate the reviews, saves a lot of us time and money. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Luke! Getting it now!!
I like the Cam lock legs. Nice product 👍. Great video
Nemo has always been a great company in my experience. I think they first became popular in the backpacking/camping world when they introduced their Hornet tents. Currently, they are popular due to their sleeping pads. They have continued to grow and expand their product line at a very modest pace.
Awesome Luke! I was just thinking that it would be great to have a chair height version of my Soto table for base camping. This table fits the bill perfectly, thanks for another great introduction and demo.
Excellent review. Thank you
Love your product reviews, very cool table!
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Great video!! And I gotta say, my favorite part is when you busted out the Black Rifle Coffee mug! Best coffee there is!
That’s a tidy looking product with great design features. A little pricy I agree but it looks to be a quality product that will last. Great review Luke! Cheers!
Cool design. Excellent review.
Thanks for the review, looks awesome but out of my budget at this time. Maybe sometime.
I do think the added med height option of having the legs click together would be a huge plus.
Clever design! Great review 👍👍
Looks nice I might suggest a shelf underneath and maybe 2 holes for cups in surface
MOLD!!!! no fn way... Thanks for the heads up. ;)
Looks neat man. I know if I consider one I can count on your review bud. Thanks!
I love folding camp tables and chairs as well but these are $220 up here in Canada! I bought a pair of Onetigris camp chairs based on your reviews and they've been awesome! I need a table now but the Onetigris is discontinued and paying $200+ for Nemo, Helinox etc just isn't in my budget. I decided to roll the dice on the Primus Campfire folding table.
I try not to be a fan boy, but Nemo has done me very good! My favorite is there sleeping pad and synthetic bags.
Outdoor research is also a company that I don’t have to reach much, all great products but pricey
Happy Easter Luke , Susie. And kids ..
Thank you for all review and videos! Mr. Luke
Another great video!
Hi Luke.== Truck bed camping for 40 yrs. and that is the best I have seen.== Will be a great flat top while sitting in my O gravity chair==. Bruce Northern Canada
Oh this is really really neat
like the engineering but i think a set of magnets on the hinge line would be nice to see, also those mold marks gotta go for 150 bucks should be clean
Great review.
My first tent was a Obi 2P . Was a great tent . Since , I have bought another tent and two pads . Have the Nemo pump-up shower . All great products IMO. Maybe as others than said . Catch it Sale . bg .
Very cool design :) I like it :)
With the sharp edges it looks like the Lamborghini of outdoor tables
love nemo products, bit more money but everything of there's I own is all great quality and functional. their camp chairs are all great too
It needs one of the legs to be adjustable in height.
Nice little table
Nemo products are nice, but there service and warranties are really what I love the most. They have replaced, with new, products that I have purchased. They did have defects, but their service was right there to resolve the issues.
Greats videos Luke!!!
solid review on a solid table 👍
I like nemo products. Good customer service 👍🏼 a zipper ripped on my dagger 3p tent and they sent me a new rain fly no questions asked
Great review again! You could easily add a Dollar Store cutting board in the case to avoid using the table as a cutting board!🤩
I had the same idea, it would fit perfectly.
Nice table. I think it is a bit much, price wise, but i would consider one when my needs arise. I think a show down review between up to 8 or 10 tables would be a great vid!!
Cool design but the weight and pack size is massive for the amount of table space and the price is insane
I got it for $120 from REI. I l have a few fabric tables and the slatted cheap tables are cumbersome and unsteady. I also bought the Nemo Stargazer chair and figured this would pair nicely with it. It's expensive but most good things are. REI says not to put a hot stove on it though.
Perfect for the Japanese Tea Ceremony!
I have this and I love it for the form factor. Tucks in the corner of my Jeep.
I love Nemo stuff
Just FYI on the mold marks, those are mostly sink marks and can be easily avoided by reducing the rib thickness on the underside, there is also splay because it's glass filled nylon. You get this particularly around the gate where the plastic enters the mold. This can be controlled with molding parameters (mold and barrel temperatures, injection speed, dwell time).
Love Nemo products.
I'm a cheap skate, but I would pay that for a versatile well made table.❤
Fishermen have some of the very best tents, chairs, camp beds and tables. Getting one in an auction cheap is usually hard, as they are fanatics about their sport, and cagy in auction tactics (as they are hunters). For some reason there is such divide and world apart from ordinary camping, gear reviewers seldom cross over into the fishing scene, perhaps because fishing things are sometimes heavier as loaded in and out of cars. Ice fishing tents can be cool too, but thats even further out into the twilight zone.
I Almost bought a nemo sleeping pad but went with the exped synmat ul 7 instead. Don't regret that desicion though ♥
The legs coming out on an angle mean you could make up a small net that you lay out on the base, put the legs through it then into their slots, and once you flip it over slide the net down and it could be an option for an extra storage area / shelf for condiments or stove etc after you've cooked and want a bit more table space. The legs on an angle mean it would only go down so far and then stop. Make the net the optimal size so it only slides down to your preferred spot. Some thin bankline and a bushcrafted netting needle would get you there pretty quickly.
Really nice looking table with some super easy setup. It's the price point that's keeping me from getting it.
Great video. Thanks for not being one of those affiliate link farming videos polluting the good quality vids and info out there.
I worked in plastics for years. Those cosmetic issues mentioned are basically cost control measures. I'd like to get a closer look at it from a molder point of view.
That is genius
your the best love your vid likeit all time
I enjoy Nemo gear and never have had any issues with any of their products. You mentioned how the top looks. I see what you are saying and with the name of the table, Moonlander, it made me pause.....you know when you had light coming from below it, it looks like craters on the moon to me...I doubt this is true, but heck what if they named it Moonlander because of that issue and it was their way accounting for that very issue? Anyway, loved your review. Thank you.
i have to admit, this is a very cool and well-designed table!! It's not worth $150... i would be willing to pay about half that price.
Canadian price is roughly 219.00. Can’t help thinking that some pop out silicone cup holders on the corners would be an asset while using in a tent or vehicular.
That's ridiculous. No way. 👎👎
Hay ,,,I like that table it is perfect for using in my Jeep Cherokee Sports. The price is not bad either 🙂🙂🙂.
Dennis from Delaware
While not as tall, I have a couple of REI Outward Side Tables and REI Kingdom Low Tables (no longer available) and I use them both for specific purposes for my camp setup. Buying one of each of the aforementioned tables is still less than this Nemo table. It is a cool design but I can see the legs getting lost and then there's the price which is a bit high.
it reminds me of a pop up book
It’s a cool table indeed. The conversion from USD to CAD makes it really expensive! For $10 cheaper you also have the option for the made in Japan Snow Peak Bamboo My Table which is very classy looking. Upside: wood is beautiful; but might need more care.
I like the way you can use it! 😃 The price is a little high.
Here is my take on the table and it's price. If you are planning on using it for camping, cookouts in your back yard, etc. This is a good quality table that folds down and packs away nicely. As for price, I look at it as if you need a table this size and are only planning on using it aa few times then don't buy it. It's not worth the money. But, someone like me that will take it camping many times a year, use it in the back yard many times a year for cookouts. Use it as a saw horse, etc. many times a year. Then this is a great price for a product that is well built and very sturdy. It should give many years of use in return. The price at first may be a shocker but it's quality and durability over the many uses will definitely make a person like myself very happy to have purchased it! It's value is in its durability and adaptability. I agree the top could and should look better. It already has a good bit of weight so that takes its use out of backpacking and hiking. So, a little thicker, smooth top would get rid of the not so nice looks. But, like you, I don't mind those things. I prefer functionality over looks every time.
Who else gives you a lifetime warranty on a camp table with comparable features?, that has to be worth the extra bucks. Don't know about you but I'm rough on my camp gear, I use it hard and often, wish more of it had a lifetime warranty, I'd gladly pay more. For a take anywhere table, vehicle camps, hiking, packing in, I'd say it's a good deal. YMMV. The molding marks on the top are of little consequence to me, as long as they don't interfere with the flat surface. Nice review Luke👍👍, thanks.
if I ever get to the point where I'm car camping I can see a reason to have this kind of table.
Excellent review, it's definitely on my radar! How about that chair you're using, which one is that?
I know this from a pal and it's a damn good table. But for 150 bugs I expect something way lighter and/or more modular, like a 3rd hight option. Nemo is great quality, no question, but again I prefer the Decathlon stuff: it has a similar size, but packed as a roll, so you can strap it to your rucksack way better,it has same weight but for only about 45 bugs. Even if it lasts only about 2-3 years it's much more affordable.
I live in a van and have three table in my vehicle, two of them for long term camping (two weeks normally). My favorite table is a Walmart collapsible one which my Gas One stve rests on. It was less than 20 bucks and has served me well for seven months on the road. The Nemo table is cool but 150 vs 20 bucks...I'll stick with the Walmart brand. Great review though, Luke!
Nice table but, my Sundick Table is working out perfectly!!
I love portable items like that. Can this be used as a tray table for the passenger side of a car or truck?
I find it interesting
Love watching your videos. Just an observation: You would appear a lot more likeable without your sunglasses on.
Agreed!
That's a great picnic table. Backpacking..5 lbs? No way. Also $150? No way.
NEMO has some very impressive stuff. I really like their gear. The only problem is, they are EXTREMELY proud of their gear, and it is a little too expensive for my blood!!
Great little table though, thanks for the review!!
I spent hundreds on a sleeping bad and pad from them but can't justify spending $150 on a table thats16.65 x 10.35. Like I get you get what you pay for but at the same time, no lol.
Let's go get it.
Any chance you might be able to look at Wisport backpacks? They are Polish military bags made of 600D cordura I believe.. I personally have the 85L Raccoon backpack as a "bug-out-bag", but I'm going to get a secondary 65L. Kind of an unknown brand, pretty pricey, but curious about how you'd compare it to others. If not, not a huge deal. Appreciate your videos and reviews. Keep up the awesome work and keep hiking :)
Welcome 👍
Hey Luke. Awesome review as usual. Would you review the UL table by novice wild camper? Or the cascade wild? Both coroplast very similar, both great.
There’s also tree tables, which are best suited for hammock campers since they’ll always be around trees. The 2qzq is discontinued unfortunately but there’s one by suluk46 named orkso.
I’ve been looking for a new table! Almost bought a decathlon table but they raised the price by $15! Have you reviewed any decathlon?
Great design from a great company. I have one of their tents and I love it. One thing I just don't get is why more companies to no put screw in pads at the bottom of their legs as it is guaranteed, you will not be on level ground. Give us an adjustment to make the table level so I don't have to hunt for the right size rocks or twigs to level my $150 table.
Just use a damn rock or stick as a shim... If that's too much work for you, maybe you don't belong outdoors and should stay inside, for your own safety.
@@clydefrog8711 Sorry, didn't mean to upset you. I will be more careful with comments in the future.
A good camping table is worth a lot, especially when out away from the traditional campsite. However I would rather take a luncheon tray and improvise on the leg support. Bushcrafting is always an option.