It seems that a lot of people have been getting confused with how I phrased my sentence about Ina and AO-Chan being separate entities. Allow me to clarify that point! I know that AO-chan is a completely separate entity to Ina and that this animation was all about Ina getting fully possessed by AO-chan and going berserk. That point was never lost on me. I'm familiar with the lore. I just commented that way because in that moment at 07:46, there was an instance of unpossessed Ina blocking her possessed self, making it look like there was a second Ina for a few seconds. That turned out to be purely a visual representation of Ina trying to wrestle back control from AO-chan and that there was only one actual Ina there the whole time until we got to that point where AO-chan very clearly separates from her at 8:00. Hope that clears it up!
Hey Sen, a bit late, but thought I'd give some feedback. You had a great reaction and found most of the things to notice within the animation(that I noticed at least). There were orchestral remixes for music of each Myth member (RIP, Hinotori, Reflect, Violet, and Ame's bgm if I'm recognizing them correctly). Also, I think you correctly had the initial conclusion that the film marks were burnt into the Ame corpses, as you can see when the rewind sequence starts, the film is burning in present Ame's hand.
Also, here's a mini-essay of my interpretation of the metaphysics of Ame's nexus. Firstly, Ame's nexus has to be something that exists in its own realm outside the confines of the time-space continuum of our observable universe, since it is able to externally observe the history of our universe. The time within Ame's nexus is continuing(as seen by the fact that Ame can still move) even while the time of our observable universe is stopped. The whole reason why Ame can stop even the unfathomable horrors of the Ancient Ones is because even with their overwhelming power, they still exist within the universe while Ame can manipulate the universe from outside of it. The video's hours reveals that the video is actually a recording/history of the lifetime of our universe. This is why, when Ame rips out the timeline from her projector and burns it into oblivion, that our universe and her life from that universe ceases to exist. The only reason that a "rewinding" effect was seen is because the film burned from the present time to the beginning of time, and any events in the timeline "did not happen" if those events are part of a recent time that has now burnt away. So while the film is burning, the "present state" of the universe is constantly going backwards in time as the future steadily erases itself. Our universe, which is built on the basis of its time-space continuum, cannot exist if the time axis of the continuum has been obliterated. And yet, Ame's nexus, as an external observer, proves that it must exist. Therefore, what must happen for these realities to coincide is that when Ame erases her present timeline, that version of the universe ceases to exist, and a brand new version of our universe built upon a new timeline must be formed, which is why we see another big bang representing the birth of a new and separate universe. This means that although we see multiple Ame corpses in her nexus, it is not because there was a timeloop, but simply because multiple different timelines will all lead to defeat in the face of the Ancient Ones' overwhelming might. Therefore, Ame's final gambit is not a hopeless one of regressing into an endless timeloop, but a minutely hopeful one of praying for some timeline, some universe, that will finally lead to a good ending. And that good ending is our present timeline in which Hololive was established, Ina controlled AO-chan with the help of the takodachis, she never lost control, and we are all still alive past September 13th, 2022.
just a question on the part u said that she (present ame) did "something different" cuz the time restarted to 0 when she ripped the film out... is not because of that? the timer was all the time it took to reach that moment, excluding the prev. ame's tried
Ame ended the universe the day Holo myth debut. Mazumaro convirmed the "Good Ending" is our current timeline. Theory being them joining hololive prevented the bad ending.
Probably not just hololive, although it contributed to the creation of Myth and them becoming really close friends, family even, so i guess its not that wrong :)
Hm I always assumed they were in hololive in the myths bad ending timeline seeing as they knew each other but perhaps they all became friends without hololive or maybe they were in hololive and in one of the timelines something happened to make AO decide not destroy everything
We are the good ending. We are already past that date. Hope descended in the rewound universe. Ame refused to give up.... Never gave up Hope. So Hope came, and the universe changed, and we got the 'Good End". The number was the length of time the universe has existed. I counted six bodies. The universe was restarted six times till this Ame came. She represents the seventh restart of the universe. So multiply that number times seven for the amount of time that has passed since the original universe began. Seven is the Biblical number of completion. We are the seventh attempt to get it right. We are the good ending.
Fantastic reaction, noticing a bunch of details like the orchestrals, symbols and gradual formation of your interpretation especially with noticing how the film projector was handled. The music and sfx individuals do each have a vid on their channels that has purely their respective sound role so Barnes with purely the soundtrack that's great for noticing and appreciating the renditions of mem's songs, bgms and Barnes original parts. To offer some more info I've not yet seen in other comments and bits of my own interpretation: AO-chan probably kept Ina possessed even with all that power as making her friends still fight her is a dastardly tactic, each member wasn't going at AO with 100% right from the start. As you noticed with Sana's symbol, another reason it was like that is Sana also has connections with AO so prob some kind of interference from AO caused the effect. The investigator charm on Ame's phone is a different design to the one we know. That end of time theatre prob had some Ame's that did try to just rewind and so weren't killed and have their bodies left there. However is then still the Ame's that straight erased the timeline so that it can start again, with a new, fresh Big Bang. This then goes with the "you ARE me, after all line" as for our detective, she'll never stop doing things the Ameway so still kept choosing to erase the timeline in hope a new one forms that has a good ending. I think those collective Ames erasing timelines in hope of one with a good ending is then what leads to Irys forming, like how her symbol was. With hope forming, Council existing and that Sept 13th 2022 date, I say that the timeline with the good ending is the one where Hope has descended, where Council has given themselves forms to interact with Myth, a timeline that goes past that date, a timeline...just like ours. Which yes, Mazu confirms that good ending is our timeline.
It's just so much fun to see everyone's takes and interpretations of these details. We all lose our collective minds over noticing the intricacies in the smallest details and that's how you know that it was an incredible production
It to add When you rewind a CZcams video it plays out exactly the same. So Ame knew that rewinding was going to result in the same things happening again. Only be resting the timeline completely did they ever had a chance of something different happening. Afterall, you don't know what is going to happen next if the future if completely erased. Also, "Try again, try a little harder and you just might win" is exactly what And tried to do at the end. Advice from Ina on how to win.
Mazumaro stated that we are currently in the 'good timeline'. Considering we can only see the council symbols they never manifested here in their physical bodies, nor IRyS. Speculation points to Hololive being the thing that prevents this from happening. It would tie in with Gura's Shark'd video as well, IRyS bringing Hololive to her attention.
so, i have tow interpretations of the ame's in the theater. first, because this place is outside of time, she was seeing several possible futures of a decision she had not made, one of which was the decision to not change anything and leave, which is the message, and ultimately she made the decision to destroy the timeline instead of trying to just rewind part of it to try to save her specific friends, which then is why when she does it, the other ame's are gone and she's the only dead body, but the film on her hand matches one that she saw. second theory, is that they are other ame's who have tried variations or rewinding time to save her friends, and the message from from the most recent attempt, from an ame who realized that attempting to rewind wasn't working, and if her attempt failed and another ame came, then she shouldn't try a simple rewind, and wasn't trying to discourage her, but to encourage her to find a new path, (which was a hard reboot instead of a soft rewind). i think this is the theory you eventually went with. another little lore tidbit is that when irys descended (debuted) she mentioned that this was the second time she'd come to save/bring hope to the world, so this world may have been the first also, the hours showing on the video before ame breaks it, is basically the estimated age of the universe in hours, which is a cool little tidbit but ultimately it worked, because ame reset the universe, and it's assumed that the council intervened and changed it so that it wasn't just a repeat, and now we are in the good ending. this is the holomyth prequel in essence now the real question, is did ame erase all the alternate ame's, or did they survive so the current ame may know about this form the alternate ame's so, on a different note, did you watch or plan to watch the 3 (currently 2 have been released) Holloween horror short movies written by fauna? final note, i just wanted to say that gura, for all that she's just a mortal atlantean, managed to push AO so far that it released ina because gura got through to her, and forced it's direct intervention, which is really cool
The fact that title's name is Bad End, and also Ame asking "What do I do" and then looking at the Ame's from other timelines and saying "I see" means that she has decided to do the same thing all of them did, "You are Me, after all". She and all the other Ame's who came before did the same thing in the end, they can't save their friends or their timeline, but by restarting it there is at least a chance that the new timeline's version of Ame and her friends might have a better end. The vision of Irys while the world is rewinding indicates that there is indeed hope for a better end, and that hope is why the Ame's continually rewind the machine and create new timelines even though they still die and all their friends are still dead in their own timelines. They might have reached the bad end, but maybe another version of them will make it past. Also, Ame didn't erase any of the other Ame's, the reason we don't see them at the end is literally just because it's zoomed in on this Ame. Like the message said, rewinding the machine just creates another timeline. Ame didn't do anything different than any of the other Ame's, they all pulled out the film, died, fell, and had film burns on their hand. The significance of all the Ame's sacrifices is that they all did this seemingly futile action even though it costs them their lives simply because there is a chance the next group has a different outcome, no matter how small. But yes, I think the idea is that eventually they did make it to that "Good End", however many retries it took, as indicated by Mazu putting the date a month before where we are now. And it does seem implied that Council is probably involved in breaking the doom-route at some point. One thing that might be a bit of a stretch that I entertained is a theory with Sana's space icon glitching out. Ina's ancient one's represent and use the power of the Void. In most settings, the Void is usually described as that which exists outside the normal boundaries of space, "the Void at the edge of the universe". Usually it is portrayed as eldritch horror anathematic to reality, entities that existed before time and space and hate the existence of.. well everything. Perhaps with Sana/warden of Space being "missing in action" so to speak, the Void has managed to encroach on reality or grow more powerful, leading to Ina's eventual domination by the ancient ones. Either way, council probably intervened somehow, but I would be curious as to what way they went about fixing things, especially if Sana is out of commission. Or maybe that's *why* Sana is out of commission, sacrificed herself or had to go into hibernation after driving back the Ancient Ones and the Void...?
For your question, yes, I do plan on doing a reaction to the Halloween horrors when the 3rd one comes out :3 As for Gura, I think a detail that really made Ina break through was that with Calli and Kiara, they were just banished. With Gura, she was brutalized and was suffering directly at Possessed Ina's hands
@@Shaehl Ina would always eventually lose to the Great Ones. It was a situation that would always happen. However due to Ame "hopeing' for a different outcome Irys was able to get closer and closer by being realized into existance. In this reality Irys changed the world by pushing Gura to join Hololive (see the Gura "Sharked") So because Gura and the rest of Myth joined Hololive, Ina was able to create Takodachi's which have become a limiter on her power (the ancient ones) and because of that the horror that always happened never will happen.
The ending says Ame resets time and space and hopes for a different ending this time. Our real world is the result of her resetting countless time and space, a happy ending.
As a lot of the community has mentioned and I also thought of is that the current timeline is our happy ending all of them streaming and stuff and the bad ending(s) usually lead to what we see here in the animation. Also the orchestral songs were bangers. Also alot of people noted that the time on the video on the screen is the time of how long our universe has been going or the earth I think. I don't remember but one of the 2 lol
And on account of the timer in the video, it shows the time from the big bang to now. Those. the age of the universe. And Ame literally recreated the universe from scratch, in the hope that everything would be different and that the new Guras, Ina, Ame, Kali, Kiara would have a different fate. And the fact that the battle with the Ancient brought other Ame to the theater is not at all a fact, different Ame had different baubles and possibly different troubles that forced them to use the last chance.
The theory is that this is the council Kronii room that's why Kronii Symbol is in the middle. The Video is in hour it is the estimate time how old our universe is
All of Myth's first original songs are orchestral arrangements! You noted Hinotori and Reflect, but RIP and Violet are in there too! There's music and SFX only versions that Daryl and Dave uploaded on their own channels, I think Mazumaro retweeted them
I don't think this Ame was the first or only one to rip the film out. They all did the same thing. Every loop is the entire history of time. The timestamp on the video is the age of the universe. Every Ame resets the universe to the very beginning, the big bang. The little IRyS easter egg at the end was hope being summoned from Ame's refusal to stop trying. And Gura's shark'd animation is the direct sequel, where IRyS guides Gura (and maybe the others) to join hololive, which is the catalyst for the good ending (our current timeline). That's the theory I like the best.
The creator of the video btw said that the timeline we ( in real life) live in is the good ending, since in the video the world was doomed at september 13th 2022, since we are way past it alraedy. The symbol of IRyS' in the sky in this scenario as the rewind happens also implies that "hope is descending, but sadly not in time".. basically it was foreshadowing that Hope was coming, but it was too late.. But!... since we are "all here" in the Real world, Council's influence, as swell as iRyS's descending, happend quick enough, after all these retries, creating the "good ending" we live in. If we remember back when Gura released her lore Video how She arrived at the beach etc., we saw IRyS nudging her gently in the right direction. And Thus we witnessed the wonderful path of Council, IRyS and Myth the way we know it. Overall a wonderful story to tell, i really wish they would make this Canon, it is so good that it would fit perfectly into the official lore.
@@SenWarchief Amelia said it, too. After Coco's graduation and people joking about her rewinding the time, She said "as sad is it is to see her go, we are livnig in the good ending, the good timeline, there is no rewind needed".. something along those lines. i kinda of shortened what she said ofc. :P
I like it. And yes, Irys depending at the very end would not be enough to chang anything. Since she needs the time to descend three times before she actually manifests.
Regarding Ina, in the last scene with Gura, we were shown that the Ancient One came into the world. It seems to me that from that moment on he no longer needed a medium in the form of Ina, the Ancient One incarnated. That is why he so easily dismissed the rebellious adept. And it was the Ancient One himself who carried out the final attack.
My sense was that they lost and were returning to their space through the sphere. That last attack was a final act of revenge. So technically they won, and the world was saved. But Amelia destroyed the whole universe - not just the world - because the only people who mattered to her were dead. Cosmic reset for a tiny chance that things could finally be different.
I kind of think of "Non-fiction" as the good ending, or the true time line. When Council arrived Ina became Senpai. Maybe that gave her the strength and purpose to keep herself under control
26:06 hope desending as the only hope to save this world , as said in the song: I am hope, now I'm sure I'm more than just an angel or a demon I was born as the only hope to save this world A world so kind (but sometimes cruel) A world so loving (at times lonely) Always beautiful And I will not ever give it up
As you've said eldritch horrors have almost no limit the writer can have them do whatever they want so imagine an alternate scenario where Ame ends up in the time theater and AO shows up in there with her saying "We are beyond time human, it won't save you"
Just as others have pointed out We see all of Myth and we see symbols of Counsel, but Irys isn't anywhere at all (other than as the vague light not on Earth as the world ends) "hope" is what makes the new timeline the Good Ending
It is confirmed by Smol Ame, way back, that timeline #1 was destroyed, which means that timeline #1 was the start of a good ending or the real change to the loop. How many tries to reach timeline #1, we might never know, Only that timeline #1 was the last one "confirmed" destroyed.
Ina and the ancient ones were always separate entities. The Ancient Ones are outerversal entities who exist outside and over every worldly concepts, basically a remix of the Lovecraftian gods. And Ina is a priestess who can channel their presence through her body and with the grimoire that she carries with her. Which is why she has supernatural features on her like tentacles she can summon at any time, a halo over her head and squishy hair bangs even though she is human like Ame. You can see that when the Ancient Ones leave her body she had normal hair again, no more tentacles, no more halo. They are just the source of her power and at that moment they basically said "fuck you" and took it all back.
I don't know where your mind was going with the number representing the number of attempts I've seen someone else explain it so I won't repeat it but you do realize if there was that many attempts that theater would be overflowing with dead Ame's and oh God that sounds dark
In my interpretation, Ame's "You are me after all" isn't at the Ame who left the message, it's at all the Ames before her. She's not breaking the loop, she's continuing it. The way I see it, the past Ames destroyed THEIR timelines as well in a desperate attempt to create a new and different one where her friends could live. Current Ame did the same thing, despite knowing full well she would die as a result, because she was determined to change fate and create a timeline where everything would work out.
15:03 Ina's own conscious trying to fight against the possession of the ancient one. Like Naruto trying to resist Kurama or Kaneki trying to resist his ghoul instinct. Also on the part AO left Ina, AO abandoned her by saying "Fine" like it really wanted to kill Ina's friends for something and trying to spare her because they needed a host but AO decided to leave Ina and kill her and her friends instead and because of that Ina reverted to her human form. Fact: Takodachi's are part of AO. Also as for Kiara and Calli they cannot escape the void because they are banished forever. Kiara and Calli don't have a spell because they are not mages or a person or entity with magic because AO uses magic that is really strong enough to banish both them
It was also said in another videos comment section that Ina was a kind of hostage for the AO, and that AO used her so that the other myth members can’t go all out against her.
@@fisch_the_shrimp149 My own fan lore: The Book is like a keepsake of Ninomae Clan, they are the keepers and sealers of the book. They are the ones who keep the book in check so no one could steal it
"Because Sana already graduated..." is that really the reason? She was connected to the Great Old Ones by lore. Maybe she's helping them, or is forced away because she may interfere..? Also, what was the entity that destroyed the world? Ame tore the film while rewinding it, so the film that was projecting the word no longer has a future. Perhaps the entity that destroyed the world was Ame all along...
"Ina and the Ancient One are separate entities in this one?" What do you mean? They've always been separate. Ina's own lore is that she became a priestess for AO, letting herself be "possessed", which is what gave her the pointy ears, the ear flaps, the squishy bangs and the wings. This entire video is literally just Ina losing control over AO, and AO destroying everything. Ina just managed to fight back a little bit when Gura was gonna die, which made AO decide "Fine. You're no longer worth keeping", so they leave Ina (reverting her back to her normal human form) and just directly wiping everything out (until Ame does her thing)
The part where Ame looks over at her predecessor counterparts' hands and accepts what she has to do, and that it makes sense they all arrived at the same decision, gets me every time. Oh yeah, I forgot that the hub in Chrono Trigger was like that, too. A lot of time travel fiction plays with having a space waiting at the very end of time, or even just right outside or beside it. Legends of Tomorrow, the Flarrowverse show, basically had time cops operating out of there, just like with the TVA in Loki (DC and Marvel play with this all the time in the comics, too). Doctor Who's probably done it considering how many decades they've been at it. I really, really, like that our timeline's represented by not just a youtube video player, but a film reel, because time is a cycle, is a wheel, is a reel. Oh, okay, so your argument for the timeloop break is that the number went from absurdly big to small. By this logic I'd get it if it was true that the big number was the cumulative length of several loops, but I thought it was just the age of the universe? Hold on, there's a lot to establish on my end here. First of all, it might just be semantics, but I personally don't think of it as a loop (of a singular timeline). I think of it as multiple timelines/universes existing sequentially. Like recording audio tracks on different layers, but having none of them overlap. The way I saw it, every Ame there had intended to rewrite their bad ending by rewinding their timeline, but had instead birthed another timeline in turn (statistically) doomed to repeat the same story after being overloaded to death by whatever time powers that be. To me, it looked like Ame did what all her predecessors did and rewound the universe to create a new timeline in Hopes that things would play out differently this time. And so the timer on the video reset to before the Big Bang, showing only a black screen. However, you bring up a fun point in that her actually tearing the film out might have an effect on the timeline if there's an actual loop involved racking up the hours. Okay, so the timer. If we assume that the base expected outcome of her having rewound her timeline back to zero and the number on the left hand of the "##/##" had been reset while the other value had remained the same, then your argument for the newly created timeline starting from absolute scratch makes a lot of sense. Since the max length of the universe/video is ticking up as it goes (wait, that sounds a lot like the universe infinitely expanding lol), we understand that the previous video had also represented the timespan of the universe. Really trying to stop myself from repeating that different Amelias keep doing it hoping for the best, but I think I like your read that Ame actively changed the outcome here and that IRyS didn't just descend by chance. Although, I do like the idea of infinitely repeating the events until just the slightest deviance in a really long timeframe butterfly effects the entire thing and we get the ideal timeline.
2:12 change da world my final message. Goodbye. 12:24 On my first watch when orchestra version of Papaya hit, I got chills. 20:47 I believe the video is the current timeline. The time is about the estimated age of the universe which is about 13.78 billion years. 22:53 I saw a theory where this could also mean Sana was compromised in some way because in lore, Sana becomes an apostle of the ancient ones. Something to think about. 24:06 I think Ame decided to try again. Like her, all the other previous Ames reset/started a new timeline where a good ending could eventually be achieved. A #Ameway of sorts. We know she doesn’t like giving up :) That’s why she remarks that the other Ames were her after all. They all made the same decision. And the end screen with the Retry option also supports this. 27:26 That date is two years after the debut of Myth. Mazu, the creator, has said we are in the good ending, meaning our timeline has prevented the tragedy of what we just saw. We have passed September 13th, 2022, so we made it. I think the change was them joining Hololive. They recruited the members which became Myth and AO became a moderator. One interesting thing is that in Gura’s “Shark’d” animation. IRyS whispers in her ear which led her to join Hololive. Perhaps IRyS really was the hope that brought us to the good ending. Some things I’m wondering is who left the voice message. I do think it’s Ame but it would be interesting if it wasn’t. And if it was Ame, that Ame must have decided to restart the universe just like everyone else or else we wouldn’t be seeing a new Ame arrive. Another thing is where is council and what is their role in this? Maybe they don’t care or treat it like entertainment. That could be why this room exists and that it’s a movie theater. I also find the areas Ame travels through interesting. I don’t think they are of the same or other timelines but are parallel universes. And that’s why there are different versions of Ame there when Ame’s universe only has the “standard” her. And somehow can Ame could navigate through these worlds to reach that room. And finally, I’m wondering why AO is doing this. Beyond Ame restarting things, this is the crux of the issue. AO (I’m guessing AO and not Ame is what “entity” refers to) by September 13th if 2022 decides to wipe out everything. All in all, really cool animation. The sound effects and music are amazing with each member having a representative theme. And the story was very interesting.
What makes you think that the other Ames diddent reset the universe to 0 seconds before? All Ames died with the film in their hands, meaning they all destroyed the film before dying. It seems like it is a loop where you hoping for a butterfly effect to eventualy change the outcome.
24:27 ini cuma spekulasiku aja, disini ame seperti player yang harus menyelesaikan route story happy ending, itulah kenapa, ame time loop terus menerus di timeline Holo myth, karna dia adalah seorang Time traveler, dia ingin memperbaiki Timeline ini ke Route happy ending, semisal ia bisa menyelesaikan itu, maka dia bisa berpindah Universe lain, mungkin di next Project, akan ada Route happy ending, dan mungkin ada CreditScene dari Irys dan juga Bergeraknya The Council, yang diawali Oleh Kroni
I have seen a lot of reactions to this story, and I must say, yours Chief, is probably the most detailed one I have seen. Thank you. A possible note on the "Universal" film. Since the whole span of universal history, to the point Ame stopped it THIS time, is on the uptake reel. And given that "the future is not yet written". A simple rewind would be pointless (hence the phone message) as that would just reach this same point before new film could be made. Ame ripping out the latest segments of film allows for a different, unknown future starting at the point of destruction. Telling Ame that something is useless is, ultimately, futile.
Okay, heres's my theory. The council, is already existed. Maybe existed along with AO-Chan. They dont only manage Our Universe. They govern so much universe that this only like blip in their radar. It's seems to be cruel and cold by the council, but it actually makes sense in my own head that The Council doesnt have any attachment to Myth Members like today. What change that? It was Irys descended. A "Hope" that born from the perseverance of single human being who doesnt want any other timeline, another version, the #AmeWay or no way at all. She and "others" Ame's keep nuking the universe in hope for another way, in hope for a chance and this humanly perseverance, idk how much attempt Ame's try, finally manifested and born to bring hope, descend to Earth and start guiding perhaps each of other members (Which the confirmed one is Irys is guiding Gura to join Hololive in Shark'd Video, dont know about the others members). This Guidance then trigger The Council to manifested too and join Hololive. Hope for me is like undying flame, it will snuffed out, but it will reignite again. Thats why The Council is decided to manifested too and to make sure what exactly is "Hope" doing in this universe after so many times it doesnt appear at all. So yeah, i agree with Mazu statement, we are the good ending. Through multiple sacrifice of one single human who doesnt want any other way except her way and created a "Hope" in the process and triggering all of other event and we pass the "Doom" scenario by AO-chan in the world without hope. A Myth Lore born from rejecting doom and clinging on that one chance, for a better result, via that one particular Detective/Drug Dealer/Shroom expert, bringing Hope to guide and Council to monitor them and thats what make AO-Chan, as wise as being it is, to think through again what it actually planned.
The hands are burned the faces of the other Ame are burned they all burned to death but Mazu didn't had enough time to finish that soo we don't see there faces
I think all of the Ame's tried the same thing and what caused the change was the fact that Ame never gave up hope and all of the Hope built up to reawaken Hope causing her to reawaken and change the timeline.
At 8:30, could just be me but it sounds like Kiara's screech, so I wonder if the Ancient One used her power to take out Ina and Gura (since I assume Kiara and Calli are still in the sphere).
Here's my thought on Ame saying you are ME after all I think it's likely that Ame is referring to the next Ame, which I assume is our Ame, basically saying that even though I'm dead and my timeline no longer exists maybe the next Ame and her friends will have a happy ending
My interpretation of of "...you are ME, after all." is that there is no other possible decision for her. Or any other Ame for that matter. The outcome is not what SHE wants/needs. Try again.
Your one of the first i've seen react to this that actually knows of the Ancient Ones existence but where did you get the idea that Ina and the Ancient Ones were the same being
Ohhhh, allow me to clarify that point! I know that AO-chan is a completely separate entity to Ina. When I said that, I was more referring to them being the same being insofar as the animation because Ina's possessed by AO-chan. Hope that clears it up!
@@SenWarchief Oh ok yeah I could see why you'd think that basically you thought AO-chan forcibly became one with Ina getting rid of her completely but in actuality Ina was still there
The Ancient One was fully aware of Ame's time loop and her resetting of time to try and save the girls and the known universe. Hence, why the Ancient One that completely took over Ina said to Ame, "You must be the real problem here, human." czcams.com/video/jMY4DaL6caU/video.html This is all about the Ancient One trying to stop Ame from looping again. So, the Ancient One is pissed and was trying to eliminate Ame but all her friends stepped up to protect her at all costs. The story is very Marvel inspired and how Mazu did it was EPIC! I think most of the girls are contemplating the voice acting so, we shall see.🤞
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It seems that a lot of people have been getting confused with how I phrased my sentence about Ina and AO-Chan being separate entities. Allow me to clarify that point! I know that AO-chan is a completely separate entity to Ina and that this animation was all about Ina getting fully possessed by AO-chan and going berserk. That point was never lost on me. I'm familiar with the lore. I just commented that way because in that moment at 07:46, there was an instance of unpossessed Ina blocking her possessed self, making it look like there was a second Ina for a few seconds. That turned out to be purely a visual representation of Ina trying to wrestle back control from AO-chan and that there was only one actual Ina there the whole time until we got to that point where AO-chan very clearly separates from her at 8:00. Hope that clears it up!
Hey Sen, a bit late, but thought I'd give some feedback. You had a great reaction and found most of the things to notice within the animation(that I noticed at least). There were orchestral remixes for music of each Myth member (RIP, Hinotori, Reflect, Violet, and Ame's bgm if I'm recognizing them correctly). Also, I think you correctly had the initial conclusion that the film marks were burnt into the Ame corpses, as you can see when the rewind sequence starts, the film is burning in present Ame's hand.
Also, here's a mini-essay of my interpretation of the metaphysics of Ame's nexus. Firstly, Ame's nexus has to be something that exists in its own realm outside the confines of the time-space continuum of our observable universe, since it is able to externally observe the history of our universe. The time within Ame's nexus is continuing(as seen by the fact that Ame can still move) even while the time of our observable universe is stopped. The whole reason why Ame can stop even the unfathomable horrors of the Ancient Ones is because even with their overwhelming power, they still exist within the universe while Ame can manipulate the universe from outside of it.
The video's hours reveals that the video is actually a recording/history of the lifetime of our universe. This is why, when Ame rips out the timeline from her projector and burns it into oblivion, that our universe and her life from that universe ceases to exist. The only reason that a "rewinding" effect was seen is because the film burned from the present time to the beginning of time, and any events in the timeline "did not happen" if those events are part of a recent time that has now burnt away. So while the film is burning, the "present state" of the universe is constantly going backwards in time as the future steadily erases itself.
Our universe, which is built on the basis of its time-space continuum, cannot exist if the time axis of the continuum has been obliterated. And yet, Ame's nexus, as an external observer, proves that it must exist. Therefore, what must happen for these realities to coincide is that when Ame erases her present timeline, that version of the universe ceases to exist, and a brand new version of our universe built upon a new timeline must be formed, which is why we see another big bang representing the birth of a new and separate universe. This means that although we see multiple Ame corpses in her nexus, it is not because there was a timeloop, but simply because multiple different timelines will all lead to defeat in the face of the Ancient Ones' overwhelming might. Therefore, Ame's final gambit is not a hopeless one of regressing into an endless timeloop, but a minutely hopeful one of praying for some timeline, some universe, that will finally lead to a good ending. And that good ending is our present timeline in which Hololive was established, Ina controlled AO-chan with the help of the takodachis, she never lost control, and we are all still alive past September 13th, 2022.
just a question on the part u said that she (present ame) did "something different" cuz the time restarted to 0 when she ripped the film out... is not because of that? the timer was all the time it took to reach that moment, excluding the prev. ame's tried
Ina saying "I'm sorry." breaks my heart every time.
Yes, and you know that Ina is totally like that. That's why you feel it.
Imagine if they actually voice it! Kiara left a very interesting comment on that video after all!
@@SenWarchief that would be so hype! But they have to go sooo deep in the feels for it, too. Would really be interesting to see/hear.
Yeah and it's because she failed to contain the power of the Ancient Ones, that's why she apologized
Majin buu or the T1000 from terminator 2 is what came to mind. Now we need "Into the Ameverse" as the next story lol.
Ame ended the universe the day Holo myth debut. Mazumaro convirmed the "Good Ending" is our current timeline. Theory being them joining hololive prevented the bad ending.
Probably not just hololive, although it contributed to the creation of Myth and them becoming really close friends, family even, so i guess its not that wrong :)
Hm I always assumed they were in hololive in the myths bad ending timeline seeing as they knew each other but perhaps they all became friends without hololive or maybe they were in hololive and in one of the timelines something happened to make AO decide not destroy everything
HoloTempus, the only group not in this video, saved the day. Magni came in and Magged all over evil Ina.
2 years after their debut. Perhaps, in that timeline, there wasn't one?
Well in our timeline, Yagoo managed to find and hire a God-like being (Omegaα) to oversee the EN branches hence no universe ending scenarios.
We are the good ending. We are already past that date. Hope descended in the rewound universe. Ame refused to give up.... Never gave up Hope. So Hope came, and the universe changed, and we got the 'Good End". The number was the length of time the universe has existed. I counted six bodies. The universe was restarted six times till this Ame came. She represents the seventh restart of the universe. So multiply that number times seven for the amount of time that has passed since the original universe began. Seven is the Biblical number of completion. We are the seventh attempt to get it right. We are the good ending.
Interesting detail to note that this was the 7th Ame! I love how these kinds of videos really get our tinfoil hats going
@@SenWarchief got our tinfoil hats on just like Watoto.
Fantastic reaction, noticing a bunch of details like the orchestrals, symbols and gradual formation of your interpretation especially with noticing how the film projector was handled.
The music and sfx individuals do each have a vid on their channels that has purely their respective sound role so Barnes with purely the soundtrack that's great for noticing and appreciating the renditions of mem's songs, bgms and Barnes original parts.
To offer some more info I've not yet seen in other comments and bits of my own interpretation:
AO-chan probably kept Ina possessed even with all that power as making her friends still fight her is a dastardly tactic, each member wasn't going at AO with 100% right from the start.
As you noticed with Sana's symbol, another reason it was like that is Sana also has connections with AO so prob some kind of interference from AO caused the effect.
The investigator charm on Ame's phone is a different design to the one we know.
That end of time theatre prob had some Ame's that did try to just rewind and so weren't killed and have their bodies left there. However is then still the Ame's that straight erased the timeline so that it can start again, with a new, fresh Big Bang.
This then goes with the "you ARE me, after all line" as for our detective, she'll never stop doing things the Ameway so still kept choosing to erase the timeline in hope a new one forms that has a good ending. I think those collective Ames erasing timelines in hope of one with a good ending is then what leads to Irys forming, like how her symbol was.
With hope forming, Council existing and that Sept 13th 2022 date, I say that the timeline with the good ending is the one where Hope has descended, where Council has given themselves forms to interact with Myth, a timeline that goes past that date, a timeline...just like ours.
Which yes, Mazu confirms that good ending is our timeline.
It's just so much fun to see everyone's takes and interpretations of these details. We all lose our collective minds over noticing the intricacies in the smallest details and that's how you know that it was an incredible production
Nah the council form to fix internal problem, aka the police! For AO-chan we need the Army! We need Yagoo!!
It to add
When you rewind a CZcams video it plays out exactly the same. So Ame knew that rewinding was going to result in the same things happening again. Only be resting the timeline completely did they ever had a chance of something different happening. Afterall, you don't know what is going to happen next if the future if completely erased.
Also, "Try again, try a little harder and you just might win" is exactly what And tried to do at the end. Advice from Ina on how to win.
That orchestral "Papaya" bgm is so epic
Mazumaro stated that we are currently in the 'good timeline'. Considering we can only see the council symbols they never manifested here in their physical bodies, nor IRyS. Speculation points to Hololive being the thing that prevents this from happening. It would tie in with Gura's Shark'd video as well, IRyS bringing Hololive to her attention.
so, i have tow interpretations of the ame's in the theater. first, because this place is outside of time, she was seeing several possible futures of a decision she had not made, one of which was the decision to not change anything and leave, which is the message, and ultimately she made the decision to destroy the timeline instead of trying to just rewind part of it to try to save her specific friends, which then is why when she does it, the other ame's are gone and she's the only dead body, but the film on her hand matches one that she saw.
second theory, is that they are other ame's who have tried variations or rewinding time to save her friends, and the message from from the most recent attempt, from an ame who realized that attempting to rewind wasn't working, and if her attempt failed and another ame came, then she shouldn't try a simple rewind, and wasn't trying to discourage her, but to encourage her to find a new path, (which was a hard reboot instead of a soft rewind). i think this is the theory you eventually went with.
another little lore tidbit is that when irys descended (debuted) she mentioned that this was the second time she'd come to save/bring hope to the world, so this world may have been the first
also, the hours showing on the video before ame breaks it, is basically the estimated age of the universe in hours, which is a cool little tidbit
but ultimately it worked, because ame reset the universe, and it's assumed that the council intervened and changed it so that it wasn't just a repeat, and now we are in the good ending. this is the holomyth prequel in essence
now the real question, is did ame erase all the alternate ame's, or did they survive so the current ame may know about this form the alternate ame's
so, on a different note, did you watch or plan to watch the 3 (currently 2 have been released) Holloween horror short movies written by fauna?
final note, i just wanted to say that gura, for all that she's just a mortal atlantean, managed to push AO so far that it released ina because gura got through to her, and forced it's direct intervention, which is really cool
The fact that title's name is Bad End, and also Ame asking "What do I do" and then looking at the Ame's from other timelines and saying "I see" means that she has decided to do the same thing all of them did, "You are Me, after all". She and all the other Ame's who came before did the same thing in the end, they can't save their friends or their timeline, but by restarting it there is at least a chance that the new timeline's version of Ame and her friends might have a better end.
The vision of Irys while the world is rewinding indicates that there is indeed hope for a better end, and that hope is why the Ame's continually rewind the machine and create new timelines even though they still die and all their friends are still dead in their own timelines. They might have reached the bad end, but maybe another version of them will make it past.
Also, Ame didn't erase any of the other Ame's, the reason we don't see them at the end is literally just because it's zoomed in on this Ame. Like the message said, rewinding the machine just creates another timeline. Ame didn't do anything different than any of the other Ame's, they all pulled out the film, died, fell, and had film burns on their hand. The significance of all the Ame's sacrifices is that they all did this seemingly futile action even though it costs them their lives simply because there is a chance the next group has a different outcome, no matter how small.
But yes, I think the idea is that eventually they did make it to that "Good End", however many retries it took, as indicated by Mazu putting the date a month before where we are now. And it does seem implied that Council is probably involved in breaking the doom-route at some point.
One thing that might be a bit of a stretch that I entertained is a theory with Sana's space icon glitching out. Ina's ancient one's represent and use the power of the Void. In most settings, the Void is usually described as that which exists outside the normal boundaries of space, "the Void at the edge of the universe". Usually it is portrayed as eldritch horror anathematic to reality, entities that existed before time and space and hate the existence of.. well everything. Perhaps with Sana/warden of Space being "missing in action" so to speak, the Void has managed to encroach on reality or grow more powerful, leading to Ina's eventual domination by the ancient ones.
Either way, council probably intervened somehow, but I would be curious as to what way they went about fixing things, especially if Sana is out of commission. Or maybe that's *why* Sana is out of commission, sacrificed herself or had to go into hibernation after driving back the Ancient Ones and the Void...?
For your question, yes, I do plan on doing a reaction to the Halloween horrors when the 3rd one comes out :3
As for Gura, I think a detail that really made Ina break through was that with Calli and Kiara, they were just banished. With Gura, she was brutalized and was suffering directly at Possessed Ina's hands
@@Shaehl and remember, Sana herself is known as the Apostle of Ancient Ones. so her logo glitching may have to do with the whole situation
@@Shaehl Ina would always eventually lose to the Great Ones. It was a situation that would always happen. However due to Ame "hopeing' for a different outcome Irys was able to get closer and closer by being realized into existance. In this reality Irys changed the world by pushing Gura to join Hololive (see the Gura "Sharked") So because Gura and the rest of Myth joined Hololive, Ina was able to create Takodachi's which have become a limiter on her power (the ancient ones) and because of that the horror that always happened never will happen.
The Council Symbols over the projector is one of my favorite parts of this. That and Gura refers to her other side as the Gawr side.
The ending says Ame resets time and space and hopes for a different ending this time.
Our real world is the result of her resetting countless time and space, a happy ending.
As a lot of the community has mentioned and I also thought of is that the current timeline is our happy ending all of them streaming and stuff and the bad ending(s) usually lead to what we see here in the animation. Also the orchestral songs were bangers. Also alot of people noted that the time on the video on the screen is the time of how long our universe has been going or the earth I think. I don't remember but one of the 2 lol
And on account of the timer in the video, it shows the time from the big bang to now. Those. the age of the universe. And Ame literally recreated the universe from scratch, in the hope that everything would be different and that the new Guras, Ina, Ame, Kali, Kiara would have a different fate. And the fact that the battle with the Ancient brought other Ame to the theater is not at all a fact, different Ame had different baubles and possibly different troubles that forced them to use the last chance.
That day listed as the world being wiped out was when HoloMyth debuted (albeit a different year).
the ancient one was wise to realize Ame was the true threat and was trying to stop her
The theory is that this is the council Kronii room that's why Kronii Symbol is in the middle.
The Video is in hour it is the estimate time how old our universe is
All of Myth's first original songs are orchestral arrangements! You noted Hinotori and Reflect, but RIP and Violet are in there too! There's music and SFX only versions that Daryl and Dave uploaded on their own channels, I think Mazumaro retweeted them
I don't think this Ame was the first or only one to rip the film out. They all did the same thing. Every loop is the entire history of time. The timestamp on the video is the age of the universe. Every Ame resets the universe to the very beginning, the big bang. The little IRyS easter egg at the end was hope being summoned from Ame's refusal to stop trying. And Gura's shark'd animation is the direct sequel, where IRyS guides Gura (and maybe the others) to join hololive, which is the catalyst for the good ending (our current timeline).
That's the theory I like the best.
yooo thanks for reacting i was looking forward to seeing this video
The creator of the video btw said that the timeline we ( in real life) live in is the good ending, since in the video the world was doomed at september 13th 2022, since we are way past it alraedy.
The symbol of IRyS' in the sky in this scenario as the rewind happens also implies that "hope is descending, but sadly not in time".. basically it was foreshadowing that Hope was coming, but it was too late..
But!... since we are "all here" in the Real world, Council's influence, as swell as iRyS's descending, happend quick enough, after all these retries, creating the "good ending" we live in. If we remember back when Gura released her lore Video how She arrived at the beach etc., we saw IRyS nudging her gently in the right direction.
And Thus we witnessed the wonderful path of Council, IRyS and Myth the way we know it.
Overall a wonderful story to tell, i really wish they would make this Canon, it is so good that it would fit perfectly into the official lore.
There's something incredibly relieving about knowing that our timeline is the good ending :3
@@SenWarchief Amelia said it, too. After Coco's graduation and people joking about her rewinding the time, She said "as sad is it is to see her go, we are livnig in the good ending, the good timeline, there is no rewind needed".. something along those lines. i kinda of shortened what she said ofc. :P
@@RamothElggur I do remember that stream! That was a very special meme review ^_^
I like it.
And yes, Irys depending at the very end would not be enough to chang anything. Since she needs the time to descend three times before she actually manifests.
Regarding Ina, in the last scene with Gura, we were shown that the Ancient One came into the world. It seems to me that from that moment on he no longer needed a medium in the form of Ina, the Ancient One incarnated. That is why he so easily dismissed the rebellious adept. And it was the Ancient One himself who carried out the final attack.
My sense was that they lost and were returning to their space through the sphere. That last attack was a final act of revenge.
So technically they won, and the world was saved. But Amelia destroyed the whole universe - not just the world - because the only people who mattered to her were dead.
Cosmic reset for a tiny chance that things could finally be different.
28:30 its actually how old our universe is.
Thanks for your reaction to this Chief!
I kind of think of "Non-fiction" as the good ending, or the true time line.
When Council arrived Ina became Senpai. Maybe that gave her the strength and purpose to keep herself under control
Love how Ame, a human, is the entity to end the world and the ancient ones lol
26:06 hope desending as the only hope to save this world , as said in the song:
I am hope, now I'm sure
I'm more than just an angel or a demon
I was born as the only hope to save this world
A world so kind (but sometimes cruel)
A world so loving (at times lonely)
Always beautiful
And I will not ever give it up
these fan made project are better than most of the series on cables atm
As you've said eldritch horrors have almost no limit the writer can have them do whatever they want so imagine an alternate scenario where Ame ends up in the time theater and AO shows up in there with her saying "We are beyond time human, it won't save you"
Just as others have pointed out We see all of Myth and we see symbols of Counsel, but Irys isn't anywhere at all (other than as the vague light not on Earth as the world ends) "hope" is what makes the new timeline the Good Ending
It is confirmed by Smol Ame, way back, that timeline #1 was destroyed, which means that timeline #1 was the start of a good ending or the real change to the loop. How many tries to reach timeline #1, we might never know, Only that timeline #1 was the last one "confirmed" destroyed.
Ina and the ancient ones were always separate entities. The Ancient Ones are outerversal entities who exist outside and over every worldly concepts, basically a remix of the Lovecraftian gods. And Ina is a priestess who can channel their presence through her body and with the grimoire that she carries with her. Which is why she has supernatural features on her like tentacles she can summon at any time, a halo over her head and squishy hair bangs even though she is human like Ame. You can see that when the Ancient Ones leave her body she had normal hair again, no more tentacles, no more halo. They are just the source of her power and at that moment they basically said "fuck you" and took it all back.
I don't know where your mind was going with the number representing the number of attempts I've seen someone else explain it so I won't repeat it but you do realize if there was that many attempts that theater would be overflowing with dead Ame's and oh God that sounds dark
In my interpretation, Ame's "You are me after all" isn't at the Ame who left the message, it's at all the Ames before her. She's not breaking the loop, she's continuing it. The way I see it, the past Ames destroyed THEIR timelines as well in a desperate attempt to create a new and different one where her friends could live. Current Ame did the same thing, despite knowing full well she would die as a result, because she was determined to change fate and create a timeline where everything would work out.
i want to know when ame calculating, how much possibilities she saw
15:03 Ina's own conscious trying to fight against the possession of the ancient one. Like Naruto trying to resist Kurama or Kaneki trying to resist his ghoul instinct. Also on the part AO left Ina, AO abandoned her by saying "Fine" like it really wanted to kill Ina's friends for something and trying to spare her because they needed a host but AO decided to leave Ina and kill her and her friends instead and because of that Ina reverted to her human form. Fact: Takodachi's are part of AO. Also as for Kiara and Calli they cannot escape the void because they are banished forever. Kiara and Calli don't have a spell because they are not mages or a person or entity with magic because AO uses magic that is really strong enough to banish both them
It was also said in another videos comment section that Ina was a kind of hostage for the AO, and that AO used her so that the other myth members can’t go all out against her.
@@fisch_the_shrimp149 My own fan lore: The Book is like a keepsake of Ninomae Clan, they are the keepers and sealers of the book. They are the ones who keep the book in check so no one could steal it
"Because Sana already graduated..." is that really the reason? She was connected to the Great Old Ones by lore. Maybe she's helping them, or is forced away because she may interfere..? Also, what was the entity that destroyed the world? Ame tore the film while rewinding it, so the film that was projecting the word no longer has a future. Perhaps the entity that destroyed the world was Ame all along...
"Ina and the Ancient One are separate entities in this one?"
What do you mean? They've always been separate. Ina's own lore is that she became a priestess for AO, letting herself be "possessed", which is what gave her the pointy ears, the ear flaps, the squishy bangs and the wings.
This entire video is literally just Ina losing control over AO, and AO destroying everything. Ina just managed to fight back a little bit when Gura was gonna die, which made AO decide "Fine. You're no longer worth keeping", so they leave Ina (reverting her back to her normal human form) and just directly wiping everything out (until Ame does her thing)
The part where Ame looks over at her predecessor counterparts' hands and accepts what she has to do, and that it makes sense they all arrived at the same decision, gets me every time.
Oh yeah, I forgot that the hub in Chrono Trigger was like that, too. A lot of time travel fiction plays with having a space waiting at the very end of time, or even just right outside or beside it. Legends of Tomorrow, the Flarrowverse show, basically had time cops operating out of there, just like with the TVA in Loki (DC and Marvel play with this all the time in the comics, too). Doctor Who's probably done it considering how many decades they've been at it. I really, really, like that our timeline's represented by not just a youtube video player, but a film reel, because time is a cycle, is a wheel, is a reel.
Oh, okay, so your argument for the timeloop break is that the number went from absurdly big to small. By this logic I'd get it if it was true that the big number was the cumulative length of several loops, but I thought it was just the age of the universe? Hold on, there's a lot to establish on my end here. First of all, it might just be semantics, but I personally don't think of it as a loop (of a singular timeline). I think of it as multiple timelines/universes existing sequentially. Like recording audio tracks on different layers, but having none of them overlap. The way I saw it, every Ame there had intended to rewrite their bad ending by rewinding their timeline, but had instead birthed another timeline in turn (statistically) doomed to repeat the same story after being overloaded to death by whatever time powers that be. To me, it looked like Ame did what all her predecessors did and rewound the universe to create a new timeline in Hopes that things would play out differently this time. And so the timer on the video reset to before the Big Bang, showing only a black screen.
However, you bring up a fun point in that her actually tearing the film out might have an effect on the timeline if there's an actual loop involved racking up the hours. Okay, so the timer. If we assume that the base expected outcome of her having rewound her timeline back to zero and the number on the left hand of the "##/##" had been reset while the other value had remained the same, then your argument for the newly created timeline starting from absolute scratch makes a lot of sense. Since the max length of the universe/video is ticking up as it goes (wait, that sounds a lot like the universe infinitely expanding lol), we understand that the previous video had also represented the timespan of the universe. Really trying to stop myself from repeating that different Amelias keep doing it hoping for the best, but I think I like your read that Ame actively changed the outcome here and that IRyS didn't just descend by chance.
Although, I do like the idea of infinitely repeating the events until just the slightest deviance in a really long timeframe butterfly effects the entire thing and we get the ideal timeline.
2:12 change da world my final message. Goodbye.
12:24 On my first watch when orchestra version of Papaya hit, I got chills.
20:47 I believe the video is the current timeline. The time is about the estimated age of the universe which is about 13.78 billion years.
22:53 I saw a theory where this could also mean Sana was compromised in some way because in lore, Sana becomes an apostle of the ancient ones. Something to think about.
24:06 I think Ame decided to try again. Like her, all the other previous Ames reset/started a new timeline where a good ending could eventually be achieved. A #Ameway of sorts. We know she doesn’t like giving up :)
That’s why she remarks that the other Ames were her after all. They all made the same decision. And the end screen with the Retry option also supports this.
27:26 That date is two years after the debut of Myth. Mazu, the creator, has said we are in the good ending, meaning our timeline has prevented the tragedy of what we just saw. We have passed September 13th, 2022, so we made it.
I think the change was them joining Hololive. They recruited the members which became Myth and AO became a moderator. One interesting thing is that in Gura’s “Shark’d” animation. IRyS whispers in her ear which led her to join Hololive. Perhaps IRyS really was the hope that brought us to the good ending.
Some things I’m wondering is who left the voice message. I do think it’s Ame but it would be interesting if it wasn’t. And if it was Ame, that Ame must have decided to restart the universe just like everyone else or else we wouldn’t be seeing a new Ame arrive.
Another thing is where is council and what is their role in this? Maybe they don’t care or treat it like entertainment. That could be why this room exists and that it’s a movie theater.
I also find the areas Ame travels through interesting. I don’t think they are of the same or other timelines but are parallel universes. And that’s why there are different versions of Ame there when Ame’s universe only has the “standard” her. And somehow can Ame could navigate through these worlds to reach that room.
And finally, I’m wondering why AO is doing this. Beyond Ame restarting things, this is the crux of the issue. AO (I’m guessing AO and not Ame is what “entity” refers to) by September 13th if 2022 decides to wipe out everything.
All in all, really cool animation. The sound effects and music are amazing with each member having a representative theme. And the story was very interesting.
What makes you think that the other Ames diddent reset the universe to 0 seconds before? All Ames died with the film in their hands, meaning they all destroyed the film before dying. It seems like it is a loop where you hoping for a butterfly effect to eventualy change the outcome.
24:27 ini cuma spekulasiku aja, disini ame seperti player yang harus menyelesaikan route story happy ending, itulah kenapa, ame time loop terus menerus di timeline Holo myth, karna dia adalah seorang Time traveler, dia ingin memperbaiki Timeline ini ke Route happy ending, semisal ia bisa menyelesaikan itu, maka dia bisa berpindah Universe lain, mungkin di next Project, akan ada Route happy ending, dan mungkin ada CreditScene dari Irys dan juga Bergeraknya The Council, yang diawali Oleh Kroni
I have seen a lot of reactions to this story, and I must say, yours Chief, is probably the most detailed one I have seen. Thank you.
A possible note on the "Universal" film. Since the whole span of universal history, to the point Ame stopped it THIS time, is on the uptake reel. And given that "the future is not yet written". A simple rewind would be pointless (hence the phone message) as that would just reach this same point before new film could be made. Ame ripping out the latest segments of film allows for a different, unknown future starting at the point of destruction.
Telling Ame that something is useless is, ultimately, futile.
Okay, heres's my theory.
The council, is already existed. Maybe existed along with AO-Chan. They dont only manage Our Universe. They govern so much universe that this only like blip in their radar. It's seems to be cruel and cold by the council, but it actually makes sense in my own head that The Council doesnt have any attachment to Myth Members like today.
What change that? It was Irys descended. A "Hope" that born from the perseverance of single human being who doesnt want any other timeline, another version, the #AmeWay or no way at all. She and "others" Ame's keep nuking the universe in hope for another way, in hope for a chance and this humanly perseverance, idk how much attempt Ame's try, finally manifested and born to bring hope, descend to Earth and start guiding perhaps each of other members (Which the confirmed one is Irys is guiding Gura to join Hololive in Shark'd Video, dont know about the others members).
This Guidance then trigger The Council to manifested too and join Hololive. Hope for me is like undying flame, it will snuffed out, but it will reignite again. Thats why The Council is decided to manifested too and to make sure what exactly is "Hope" doing in this universe after so many times it doesnt appear at all.
So yeah, i agree with Mazu statement, we are the good ending. Through multiple sacrifice of one single human who doesnt want any other way except her way and created a "Hope" in the process and triggering all of other event and we pass the "Doom" scenario by AO-chan in the world without hope.
A Myth Lore born from rejecting doom and clinging on that one chance, for a better result, via that one particular Detective/Drug Dealer/Shroom expert, bringing Hope to guide and Council to monitor them and thats what make AO-Chan, as wise as being it is, to think through again what it actually planned.
you should see "Detective Diaries | Hololive Animation" by Crash Landing Studios
The hands are burned the faces of the other Ame are burned they all burned to death but Mazu didn't had enough time to finish that soo we don't see there faces
I think all of the Ame's tried the same thing and what caused the change was the fact that Ame never gave up hope and all of the Hope built up to reawaken Hope causing her to reawaken and change the timeline.
It wasn’t physically ina, just a representation of her fighting back. They do this kinda thing all the time when ppl get possessed in anime and shit.
At 8:30, could just be me but it sounds like Kiara's screech, so I wonder if the Ancient One used her power to take out Ina and Gura (since I assume Kiara and Calli are still in the sphere).
Interesting! The aftermath did sound like a bird, now that I listened to it again. Very cool detail to notice there.
Here's my thought on Ame saying you are ME after all I think it's likely that Ame is referring to the next Ame, which I assume is our Ame, basically saying that even though I'm dead and my timeline no longer exists maybe the next Ame and her friends will have a happy ending
My interpretation of of "...you are ME, after all." is that there is no other possible decision for her. Or any other Ame for that matter. The outcome is not what SHE wants/needs. Try again.
@@karactr8361 yeah i can see that also being a possible interpretation
Your one of the first i've seen react to this that actually knows of the Ancient Ones existence but where did you get the idea that Ina and the Ancient Ones were the same being
Ohhhh, allow me to clarify that point! I know that AO-chan is a completely separate entity to Ina.
When I said that, I was more referring to them being the same being insofar as the animation because Ina's possessed by AO-chan. Hope that clears it up!
@@SenWarchief Oh ok yeah I could see why you'd think that basically you thought AO-chan forcibly became one with Ina getting rid of her completely but in actuality Ina was still there
Precisely that!
The Ancient One was fully aware of Ame's time loop and her resetting of time to try and save the girls and the known universe. Hence, why the Ancient One that completely took over Ina said to Ame, "You must be the real problem here, human." czcams.com/video/jMY4DaL6caU/video.html This is all about the Ancient One trying to stop Ame from looping again. So, the Ancient One is pissed and was trying to eliminate Ame but all her friends stepped up to protect her at all costs. The story is very Marvel inspired and how Mazu did it was EPIC! I think most of the girls are contemplating the voice acting so, we shall see.🤞
It was a really nice nod towards the AmeSame "ship" when Ame listening the message,her hands twitch slightly when she hears Guras name. 🥲