Michael Jackson Vs. Taylor Swift? Who wins?

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  • čas přidán 22. 06. 2023
  • Ep. 45 - Michael Jackson Vs. Taylor Swift? Is this a legit comparison or are we crazy for even thinking this? What are your thoughts on this? Comment below and listen to the full conversation on all platforms. #MichaelJackson #taylorswift #emt #EnMisTiempos #DallasPodcast #podcast #Beatles
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  • @kalikels
    @kalikels Před 11 měsíci +167

    They compared Taylor Swift's best year to Michael Jackson's death year and that wasn't even Michael's most successful year.

    • @zyoteesunuwar4825
      @zyoteesunuwar4825 Před 11 měsíci +17

      I was about to say that lol 😂

    • @2TypeAB
      @2TypeAB Před 10 měsíci +14

      bro mj's prime was thriller and he sold 70 million loool its not even close

    • @luthfeeghazale6206
      @luthfeeghazale6206 Před 6 měsíci +7

      The fact that MJ's death year had a close record with TSwift's record..damn the impact that man has is unmatched and unreal

    • @user-cj4xm2tw2z
      @user-cj4xm2tw2z Před 6 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 his death year and he didn’t even drop an album cause he died and was retired. But this is it concert sold out in minutes 😂😂😂😂😂😂. She said that we do much confidence 🤣 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

    • @Liveittt
      @Liveittt Před 5 měsíci

      It was a list of his unreleased tracks 😂

  • @joshuahd1719
    @joshuahd1719 Před rokem +126

    Michael Jackson currently is the most awarded. She beat him in AMAs and Beyonce beat him in Grammy wins. but he still has the most Awards overall. With 834 Awards under his belt including both Grammys and AMAs, which he holds the Guinness World Record for. that i dont think anyone has surpassed him yet hence why hes the greatest entertainer.

    • @ishakyishak8351
      @ishakyishak8351 Před rokem +13

      Plus he is the most awarded male artist when it comes to the ama awards and this is no easy to do

    • @LauraSkellington21
      @LauraSkellington21 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Even if they did surpass him they still can't hold that group or 2 singers or whatever that fame and success and talented and especially work ethic as a si ger or dancer just as a entertainer so taylot can't. If beyonce was the one ill be ok with that and even she knows that she couldn't. If it wasn't for michael most of them wouldn't be here to give room to all those new or kind of old performers like Taylor to kick it so

    • @TillyLoughnan
      @TillyLoughnan Před 10 měsíci +4

      Beyoncé may have beat him In Grammys but remember that Michael came home with 8 Grammys in one night

    • @Easysheezy
      @Easysheezy Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah bro all Taylor does is sings about her dum@$$ break ups and Michael has a way better fanbase

    • @michaelsevilla3697
      @michaelsevilla3697 Před 7 měsíci

      greatest entertainer without an instrument but can't be all time since mike couldn't do guitar solos and wasn't skilled in instruments like prince ✌️

  • @ericalamothe2958
    @ericalamothe2958 Před rokem +75

    You have to look at technology and availability. If Michael Jackson had access to Itunes, streaming etc. Can you imagine how thriller would have did?

    • @Tuckedinorout
      @Tuckedinorout Před rokem +5

      The thing is thriller came at a time where the music industry heard nothing like it before. The music videos, the theme of the album were something unknown at the time so i think it would’ve performed well but not as much as back then

    • @ZackAngelMusic
      @ZackAngelMusic Před rokem +5

      If MJ was still alive....man o man. Think if he was in his prime right now. They'd need something bigger than an arena.

    • @TheBamaPrinceable
      @TheBamaPrinceable Před 10 měsíci +2

      Streaming has diluted the music industry. No matter how much they try to sell it, 1 billion streams will never hold the weight of 1 million albums sold and Thriller did it at least 60 times over, coming out when you HAD to buy music to experience it

    • @jeffboy13
      @jeffboy13 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Plus the world is A LOT more populated now than in 1982

    • @noam8314
      @noam8314 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Tuckedinorout imagine if we had all of this when it came out...
      All of what we had today was built on what Jackson did, if he didn't do those songs, the music today would have been very different

  • @pressurejawn
    @pressurejawn Před rokem +73

    That lady literally read off a bias record sheet that’s not overall btw awards don’t make u a better artist also streaming compared to records sells are two different things PERIOD! MJ IS THE KING OF MUSIC FOREVER!👑💯

    • @Madness92
      @Madness92 Před rokem +3

      Yes truee

    • @Madness92
      @Madness92 Před rokem +3

      ​@@DELILAHVEVOim both a swiftie and a moonwalker more of a moonwalker though.. But You are right

    • @sylviamunroe9546
      @sylviamunroe9546 Před rokem +1

      ​@@DELILAHVEVO No ma'am she will not. But nice try.

    • @Madness92
      @Madness92 Před rokem

      @@DELILAHVEVO ok and no ur wrong I like a lot of female singer s

    • @Madness92
      @Madness92 Před rokem

      @@DELILAHVEVO I guess but we will see what happens she might.

  • @chillywillie6283
    @chillywillie6283 Před rokem +50

    Michael Jackson had recorded four number one hits by age eleven. Michael Jackson could check into a hotel anywhere in the world and five minutes later they would be calling the police for crowd control. Michael Jackson can be identified with numerous dance moves (the robot; moonwalk), plus he had dances routines for every song he used in his stage performances. Michael Jackson is popular with a wide and diverse group of people all over the world. Michael Jackson had multiple number one hits as the lead singer of a group and as a solo artist. It’s like comparing a rocking horse to a thoroughbred; a drone to a Learjet; a skateboard to a sports car.

  • @Mpiewizard
    @Mpiewizard Před 11 měsíci +16

    The problem with these comparisons is that Michael Jackson’s fame and legacy is far more than just statistics. His influence wasn’t just hit songs, ticket sales, awards won, and records broken. That played a huge role in it, don’t get me wrong but that man literally changed the world as people knew it at the time. No other artist has reached that level of influence on culture and society since and that unfortunately is a really difficult to both quantify and explain.

    • @aaronlarsen8412
      @aaronlarsen8412 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Also thr population and social media now makes it so much easier for big numbers compared to back then

  • @Me27399
    @Me27399 Před 10 měsíci +19

    This is the age of social media and internet. Michael didn't have any of those advantages n still was absolutely hugggee

  • @tylerherron665
    @tylerherron665 Před rokem +37

    Yeah go ahead and tell her to clock out and never mention Michael Jackson’s name again. What a goofy

  • @XAMAKA...
    @XAMAKA... Před 10 měsíci +7

    Yeah can we talk about that she brought a new album last year, while michaels last album was in 2001 and he still sold over 20 million in 2009. Michaels album Thriller is still the most sold and most successful album of all time

  • @dailcold
    @dailcold Před rokem +8

    the beetles are limited to the west only

  • @zyoteesunuwar4825
    @zyoteesunuwar4825 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Y'all going to have the same conversation with another artist next year or two. The same thing happened last year with Drake. Before that with Beyonce, even Justin Bieber managed to make it into the conversation in the early 10s. MJ will remain the ultimate standard while the artist being compared with him will change frequently.

  • @saadashraf1293
    @saadashraf1293 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Thriller? Bad? Dangerous? History? Compare that. Why are you comparing swifts best year with Jackson's worst sales year of 2009 with allegations and stuff. Who's more famous? Michael Jackson obviously. Michael Jackson is the second most famous human on the planet after Jesus.

  • @HadeeThePro
    @HadeeThePro Před 6 měsíci +1

    Just compared his death year to her best year

  • @tristanl124
    @tristanl124 Před měsícem +1

    Michael Jackson’s album Thriller still holds the world record for the best selling album

  • @taray3095
    @taray3095 Před 9 měsíci +3

    MJ CLEARS and its not even close💀

  • @user-tv5ke7qh6f
    @user-tv5ke7qh6f Před 8 měsíci +3

    legends know mj sold a billion records

  • @FredyZensO
    @FredyZensO Před 8 měsíci +1

    Music is not number is feeling

  • @milwaukee283
    @milwaukee283 Před 11 měsíci +3

    When she does it for twenty years, then maybe, because that's how long he held the number one spot

  • @billyjohn7846
    @billyjohn7846 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Taylor Swift Don't match because she comes from the age of the internet.
    Michael does not. Nuff said

  • @aigapierson-dp8fx
    @aigapierson-dp8fx Před 10 měsíci +2

    The only person you can compare Micheal jackson to is the beatles
    Elvis presley rn:Am i a hoke to you?

  • @XAMAKA...
    @XAMAKA... Před 4 měsíci +2

    The question was can we compare the album sales and they didn’t compared the album sales. They compared Taylor’s biggest year with Michaels death year

    • @mwitaemmy
      @mwitaemmy Před 3 měsíci

      That concludes this whole unnecessary discussion...

  • @ZackAngelMusic
    @ZackAngelMusic Před rokem +3

    The weight of online sales is like 1 lb
    The weight of physical sale is 10 lb
    Artists, bands, and musicians have to sell x10 of what they do now to have the same weight. So Taylor would need 22 million x 10 to equal MJ. Id even say she'd need close to x20.
    So online sales will really never beat the old methods of physical sales. Also, to sell so much as MJ did, you'd need a HUGE audience. Taylors audience really doesnt come close to MJs, as his audience was literally every corner of the Earth lol. His music and performances obviously resonated eith much more people. The dances and the music was groundbreaking
    Even the biggest artist nowdays would have a hard time with some of the small time artists back then

  • @waltymcnalty
    @waltymcnalty Před 11 měsíci +3

    Thriller is still the best selling album of all time worldwide. Period.

  • @CuhHum
    @CuhHum Před 6 měsíci +3

    My grandparents lived in rural africa in the micheal era no social media ,no tv , no radio no electricity and even they knew who micheal was .Are yall kidding?

  • @edgarmacross1186
    @edgarmacross1186 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Let's be realistic, Michael and Taylor are from different eras.... If we argue, who sells more records, or who receives more awards, or who earns more money doing concerts, in the end it only remains in numbers.... but that doesn't influence anything the artist, the true artist is recognized for his talent in his musical creativity, singing style, dancing style, lyrical style, fashion style and more for his personality.... and taylor will never be able to surpass, nor be Michael's height... Michael is the most complete artist in many areas, here are some examples,
    1) He was the first to make "the lunar step", a dance label that was broadcast for the first time on TV, from there everything changed
    2) he was the first to make a music video in the style of a short film, that is, a story to tell apart from the song as it was a thriller
    3) he was the first to release a film about himself as an artist, but with a recreated story like "moonwalker", he left the "smooth criminal" legacy in that film.
    4) he was the one who gave life to the MTV channel, which is now an entire music industry where artists are currently recognized... broadcasting their video clips daily on TV
    5) he was the artist with the highest quality of human being, by giving humanitarian contributions to different social problems in the world such as donations and contributions
    6) He was the artist who innovated the most in concert shows, creating different scenarios, choreographies and special effects
    7) He was the artist who generated the most trends worldwide in terms of imitations of his dance.... even though he was dead, there are new generations who do it through social networks
    These are some examples of why Michael will continue to be superior to Taylor, I don't discredit the singer's talent, she is a good artist... but she still has a lot to do, maybe in 4 years she will be at Madonna's level... .but there it is

  • @naimagalion4616
    @naimagalion4616 Před 10 měsíci +2

    who is Taylor Swift ?

  • @aspirin4709
    @aspirin4709 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's not about the quantity.....

  • @LauraSkellington21
    @LauraSkellington21 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Obviously michael jackson just bc they said she's having these sales doesn't mean she's great. Not all of us are swiftness as they call it. Taylor still yeah has room to do stuff but she does not have that sucxes yet and I don't like she thinks she's all hot or anything cause she's not. Do I like some music of hers yeah but maybe 3 that's it. She's a country singer right so I she might be a great country singer but that's it.

    • @Culereterno1899
      @Culereterno1899 Před 11 měsíci

      She doesn't think she's hot that's bs
      Shes not a stubborn, corny ass overconfident person
      These are just media and people saying when they get really excited

    • @stevie8102
      @stevie8102 Před 11 měsíci

      Only country, at least do some research on the artist your bad mouthing

  • @KaMarionas_Diary22
    @KaMarionas_Diary22 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Like don’t fucking compare someone who literally loved his people to someone who just sings and dances weird asf… MICHAEL JACKSON IS WONDERFUL.

  • @pigeonramier6898
    @pigeonramier6898 Před 6 měsíci +1

    we can't compare those things atm guys, complete different way to sell music, and social media didnt exist back then, and Taylor would probably be totally different witouth MJ impact like the all music industry

  • @nrg_acronix6742
    @nrg_acronix6742 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Michael sold 32 million copys of thriller swift didnt beat him LOL

    • @nrg_acronix6742
      @nrg_acronix6742 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Correction michael sold 70-75 million copys of thriller my apologies

    • @saadashraf1293
      @saadashraf1293 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thriller actually sold 110 million in 2005 already. The media, Wikipedia, Google hasn't been updating it idk why. Some monopoly sh*t by sony or powerful people. In his lifetime many times in 2003-2009 Michael Jackson told in speeches that thrilled has sold 110 million albums

  • @michaelsevilla3697
    @michaelsevilla3697 Před 9 měsíci +1

    michael jackson by far

  • @BundaDestroyer590
    @BundaDestroyer590 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What about Michael Jackson at his peak?! Does that 70 million dollar sale in 1984???

  • @rebelpumpfitness4904
    @rebelpumpfitness4904 Před 6 měsíci

    ‘Thank God for social media as its helping people surpass exceptional talents by an atom JUST in certain categories.!
    still, I say, congratulations to her.!

  • @DarrelNgalesgamingofficial
    @DarrelNgalesgamingofficial Před 4 měsíci +1

    Michael jacksonNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN❤NN❤N❤NN❤N❤NN❤❤NN❤

  • @abhisheksaxena7227
    @abhisheksaxena7227 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Let me say it - MJ is at least 5 times more popular than Taylor Swift.

  • @nikhilks7428
    @nikhilks7428 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Michiel jackson 🌎 no1 dancer king of pop

  • @user-el5sr2bg9s
    @user-el5sr2bg9s Před 7 měsíci +1

    why people always do this? comparing tay to MJ., and then comparing her to beyonce, and then comparing her to drake. and the most ridiculous things: BW comparing her to kelce's ex's ass. Look here, MJ is a legend, and he start from as a group since he was like 7? or 8. and he has had a long career bfore his death, he was a mega star in the time where social media isnt exist yer. no toktok, fcbook, ig, X, youtube were accessible only for small portion of people who can afford comp and internet, no cellphone. so MJ is the legend. give Taylor more year. then judge her when she was 40 or 50. who knew she could smashed another awards, another achievement. you just want to talk about tay and making fun of her. not cool

  • @noam8314
    @noam8314 Před 8 měsíci +1

    That's like saying Jordan's 2003 was worse than jason tatum 2023 stats...
    Why nit compare peak years? Because if we do we will wee that 70 million is more than 22 by over 3 times!!!

  • @Pravdacz-tp8zu
    @Pravdacz-tp8zu Před 8 měsíci +1

    They're wrong.
    The only person who can fairly compete with MJ in fame is Jesus himself.

  • @mataiwaqavesi2889
    @mataiwaqavesi2889 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You do know they shut down social media platforms because of his death …. You know what nvm 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @Blessedgreenlight
    @Blessedgreenlight Před rokem +5

    You have to see the culture today and then. Art is dead now a days and we have become so accustomed to bad taste. Lets take the art if these two artists and compare them MJ is far superior if we do that.

  • @CHANGEISHAPPENING
    @CHANGEISHAPPENING Před 7 měsíci +1

    ANY JACKSON MICHAEL JANET DESTROY TAYLOR SORRY. TAYLOR NEVA PLAYED IN THE AUDI

  • @joetau2567
    @joetau2567 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Far out, Michael Jackson is more famous

  • @regulusarcturusblack13
    @regulusarcturusblack13 Před rokem +4

    or or OR we could stop comparing completely different artists and appreciate them for how they have massively contributed to the music industry and the world in their own ways, even if you don't like their music. Because whatever you think about Taylor Swift or Michael Jackson or Beyoncé, they have all had a massive impact along with many other amazing artists and its a stupid argument anyways.

  • @vivianvo7044
    @vivianvo7044 Před 5 měsíci

    6 billion ppl back then compare to 8 billions now, biggest doesn’t meant shit 2 billions extra ppl and u only pass 3 mill?

  • @lukasrodia5177
    @lukasrodia5177 Před měsícem +1

    Ladies shut up I don’t care Micheal Jackson is so much better than t swift

  • @Mydi244
    @Mydi244 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Taylor isn’t sh!t compared to Jackson

  • @adilousant
    @adilousant Před 3 měsíci +1

    Stfu pink lady michael’s a legend 😊

  • @sherriwattrick5756
    @sherriwattrick5756 Před 11 měsíci +1

    When ever did an MJ concert ever cause a 2.3 magnitude earthquake. TS did. There's your answer.

    • @sherriwattrick5756
      @sherriwattrick5756 Před 9 měsíci

      @@user-wr7zb1go7c I forgot to add the fact TS has never had child crimes brought against her. So.

    • @ayaanbretmitchell9830
      @ayaanbretmitchell9830 Před 8 měsíci

      TS her fans are all white girls that got dumped by their boyfriends and now theyr girl power.

    • @Heavenly_Father
      @Heavenly_Father Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@sherriwattrick5756those accusations were just an attempt to rob him off cash, all of them were disproven.
      And guess what MJ became world popular in a world where there was no social media or internet. I'm from India and even my grandmother knows Michael Jackson, and she doesn't even listen to English songs.
      There's your answer.