Should descendants of black slaves from the 19th century receive a $5m payout?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 13. 09. 2024
- Lin Mei, Ali Miraj and Sajeela Kershi react to San Francisco's reparation committee proposing compensating descendants of 19th-century black slaves with a $5M payout.
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đ€ Should descendants of black slaves from the 19th century receive a $5m payout?
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My brother was robbed and assaulted by a black man I demand compensation from all black people on his behalf and the pain and hurt I suffered seeing him so badly hurt by this animal
I agree. I made that argument that then these same people need to be held responsible civilly for any crime a family member committed against someone of a different race, going back 158 years.
Agreed đđŒ
The black man thar robbed your brother made millions from it and it benefitted the whole of the black community at your expense ? Built roads and systems for black children and left you with nothing?
He probably did get compensation as the criminal probably had to pay a fine. And if not, the criminal went to prison, thatâs justice! However the slave owner did not go to prison, or pay a fine, the slave owner was compensated via taxes by the descendants of the slaves! Does your remedial mind now understand the huge differences?
They need to be asking the people who enslaved them i.e other Africans.
@@kaipo8085 What else would they do with the offspring of slaves?
Most slaves were kidnapped by the British
What if my ancestors were slaves in Ancient Rome? Where is my $?
Write to the vaticanđI would be interested in their reply.
Probably find they want their blessed money back
I have slaves in my family line too... can I have money
And by the Saxons and the Normans. And, were stolen by the North Africans from ships and towns and villages and shipped over there to work in their quarries.
Prove it then! And in those times it may not have been illegal to have slaves. When black people were slaves in America it was constitutional illegal!!
Have the descendants of the black slave owners paid up for selling them in the first place.
It's the form of chattel slavery that took place in America and and the Caribbean that was different. The structures and laws inacted in support of such slavery I'm told still exists today, the 14th ammendment being only one. The black community in the U. S has had limitations placed on its wealth and welfare for generations, some flurishing communities were burnt to the ground by state state sponsored racists and never compensated. Or had their lands stolen by the state. The ebb and flow of racism against corporate black Americans is still alive destroying generational wealth. Individually, there doesn't seem to be much issue with self advancement for many, but organised black advancment; that's a whole other issue. I don't know if you've heard but that kind of thing gets you killed, one of them dared to dream and ended up in a federally sanctioned killing allegedly, you may have heard of it. So I say yes to reperations, put in trust for the benefit of black communities, in business, in jobs, in housing, in healthcare, in education, in the removal of unjust laws against them, in the courts, the prison system filled, 70% of which are black males.
@@Zion-jw3gm Yes, but black slavers sold hem in to it in the first place; this nonsense is just a cash grab, nothing more.
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By your logic, it's no problem to buy stolen goods but its the criminal that sold it to you that's guilty? and your not party to the crime? Hummmnđ€ but you have the stolen property in your house.
And that doesn't make you party to the crime? you benefited and profited from its use, maybe enough to pay for your kids education or buy a house. You do realise there are laws that would confiscate your I'll gotten gains?
The point is that something should be done to compensate the injustice done to the decendants of slaves not slavery itself but the subjugation done to them through unjust laws, racist acts of violence economically and physically post slavery.
Those slave colonies made part of the "commonwealth" did not share in that wealth but rather it was extracted from them at great profit before and after slavery.
This abuse must be stopped.
@@Zion-jw3gm A lady of colour in America said that more than 90% of families are father absent and said it has a great deal to do with it. She said that back when people of colour could only buy from their own shops and then that was listed they abandoned their own shopkeepers for white shops. She also told me that bettering yourself and you are called an Orio or coconut. Black on the outside, white on the inside. Or, are you trying to be white. To me, that is holding yourself back. Its a shame.
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Trying to be white? If the standard of whiteness meant you gained access to certain privileges in society that a negro couldn't have, as a negro, doing all you can to be better tolerated by a society that hates you makes perfect sense. If changeing your speech, how you present yourself and how you educate yourself gets your kids into college, out of the guetto and into a 5 bed house in the suburbs instead of a 2 bed shack, seems worth being labeled a coon, uncle Tom, coconut, orio or whatever. To that person, I imagine the persecution they suffered was worth it. It means their children won't have to suffer in ignorance and from victim mentality, they would become the pioneers that lead by example in the hope of reclaiming the soverienty stolen from their ancestors as a free people.
I'm from the UK. My ancestors were Serfs. I'm still waiting for compensation from the aristocracy. They were compelled to go to Church to. So I'm waiting on compensation from the Church to. And once, a conservative MP looked at me in a funny way. I feel I should be compensated for his micro aggression.
Funny! I'll give you one dollar! Start a GoFundMe!
@@skontheroad Love it, everybody can send everybody a buck and we can cut out the middle mans taking the dang rest!
@mcjeebus Serf's did not have freedom of movement, and could not permanently leave their holding or their village without their lord's permission. Neither could the serf marry, change his occupation, or dispose of his property without his lord's permission.
So applying today's ideas about right and wrong, you could say a Serfs fundamental human rights were not observed. Thats basically what is happening with calls for compensation for slavery. You are trying to apply modern day ideas to situations in the past.
But your reference to chattel slavery is interesting because modern day forms of slavery are more like the conditions that serfs lived under.
@Robyn Webster I agree with you. To an extent.... whether you call them an agent or a manager, if they are doing their job properly, they will earn their 10%!
@Baldo As Marty has eloquently explained Serfdom, I won't review the history again here. However, understand that "chattel" slavery" was not something experienced by only Black Africans.
Asking me to apologise and pay reparations for something my distant ancestors did, is a bit like asking me to apologise and pay reparations to the families of the victims of my mass-murdering grandfather. Both had nothing to do with me!
To be fair, black Americans are far more likely to have a slave owning ancestor than a white Brit!
Depends. Did your grandfather earn money by engaging with the slave industry?
Shouldn't the descendants of the African slave traders be made to pay
It's not even that close: it's asking you to pay up for what someone who might have LOOKED a bit like you, might have done to someone who LOOKS a bit like them!
THAT'S the Grift! đ
Absolutely bollocks what these retards come out with charge them for the money and lives it cost in getting rid of the slave trade
Reparations should be giving the descendants of slaves the choice of going back to the countries where their ancestors were taken from and I am sure they will choose to stay where they are,with all the benefits and the countries of origin of their ancestors must put out a helping hand.The slaves were sold by their own people and reparations should be discussed with them,no mention is ever made of the sellers.
The vast majority of the enslaved are indigenous to the America's. Not filthy immigrants like euorpeans
Excellent idea
I want a payout from the Norman Saxons and Vikings.
Yep me too. Thatâs on one side. And a payout from the Romans covers the other side.
Germany and Denmark will go bankrupt
I want that too + English. Lol!
Never was a slave, never owned slaves, born a freeman and I owe no one an apology. ....
Exactly!
Well said
Thatâs you not American
@@jamarfrazier6920 ? I am from North America but not from the United States.
Should citizens who have never owned slaves who hate racism be forced through taxes or other penalty to pay people who have never been slaves who live in free America. America is lost its people are being separated into groups by a corrupt government.
yes. True, exactly... don't follow the corrupt crazy town BS anymore. Question everything
Lin Mei seems to be arguing from a position of greed rather than entitlement.
More british sarcasm to me at how silly it all is. Should brits demand money from norway,rome and the Barbary slaver nations? When does it stop
What about compensation from the African slave traders who made the trade possible.
And who built the Pyramids .
Roman reparations here please.
After the romans, we had the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, North Africans, and Muslims.
We were still freeing white slaves in the 19th century - check out the Bombardment of Algiers!
What have the Romans ever done for us!
Brought peace ???
Brought peace !.............SHUDDUP!
And from all the Scandinavian countries, Germans, French...
Will people from the individual African tribes and countries be able to make similar compensation claims against each other because their ancestors were forcibly captured by their black neighbours and sold to the white traders for a very lucrative profit? Without these tribal leaders being so actively involved in the slave trade the numbers would have been significantly lower. Yet somehow there's attempts to hide or omit the shameful participation of black African people in this awful part of the world's history...
Again, what happened many years ago is evaluated in todays terms.
Slavery was an accepted way of life in many parts of the world in those days.
Africans were enslaving Africans well before the White man appeared on the market place.
Slavery was part of tribal law/customs, convention or culture in many parts of the world, that's one of the reasons why the British paid off the slave owners in British held territories.
Arguably, many black people would not have been born, or alive today, if Britain had not started its campaign to end slavery in the world.
So true, slavery wasn't invented by white Europeans at all.
Why should the people who have never owned slaves, pay reparations to those who've never been enslaved...
Iâm a white male, Not religious or ever was, I was obligated as a child to study religion by someone other than my parentsâŠ.!
Whereâs my money
As a white man can I claim this too, as I have ancestors that were slaves.
I know you jest but one thing that will never be taught in schools and one thing that will never be discussed in the mainstream Western media is the Barbary Slave Trade. Look it up.
@@PeaceDweller will do!
I'm descended from people who lived on the West coast of Britain when Barbary Coast raiders used to take entire villages into slavery.
I think everyone in Africa owes me $5 million.
Each.
Her argument is moronic. Who sold slaves to the other countries ? Tell them to get the money from Africa they sold their own people to everyone. What about the slaves of Romans or vikings or maybe Egyptians, Persia, China, Greece etc etc etc. The list goes on
The bit they left out is that the money won't be coming from the families that profited from slaves it'll come from the public...
"If you could get some money for it, why wouldn't you?"
Disgusting looter mentality.
We owe no one.
Ghana has the welcome mat out for new black citizens from the US.
Tribal leaders captured & sold slaves, some their own ppl as punishment.
Muslims-captured ppl all over, Africa, Europe-white slaves.
Native Americans had slaves, captured from other tribes.
Name a continent who hasnât been involved-thereâs very few.
Today-Dubai, China lead in slavery.
No this is madness. No No No.
Honestly, what nonsense. My ancestors worked in the Cotton mills in Lancashire in the early 1800s. My brother discovered one of them, a 12 year old, died falling underneath the loom. Where do we go for compensation?
If they love their ancestors that much, try living where they came from. That would make them feel much closer to their real roots.
Well said.
This is woke nuts! Not a penny, not a cent. Nothing!
Not only that, they all love their gear that is made in modern slavery environments. Sadly, it's only this race that are victims of racism and no one else đ
Victim mentality!!!!!
How about we all grow up and try to get on with each other and stop competing to see who's the biggest victim.
No, we should all just be grateful we live in a different time.
Should the protestants of Scotland by allowed to claim reparations from Rome, Vikings, Gaels?? How about dealing and stopping modern slavery
Good deeds doesnât wash away sinsâŠ..!
Thats like sending children or parents of convicted criminals to prison
Yes absolutely and the money should come from the people who sold them into slavery. Start with Nigeria.
Your bang on right - the Nigerians celebrate to almost churchillian heights a black woman called tinubu - monuments and alike ( tinubu square in Lagos for example) who became rich on the back of slave trading her own peoples and arms dealing amongst other nefarious exploits - if our students were to tear down her monuments the Nigerians would imprison them or worse, these arguments only ever go one way and itâs the global uneducated hatred of Britain- anglophiliates - donât know if itâs a real word sounds good though! đ.
What about the English who was kidnapped by Africans before the black slave trade in Africa ? Do their descendants get compensated ? The truth is the people of that time did not view slavery as we do. We need to stop to viewing slavery through our prisim. I have to say this is just a easy money making gimmick. I am afraid that to many this plays into those who see an entitlef group
Black woman, give me money 'cos I is Black!
The ranting, loud black woman looks like she wants a payout too.
The world has gone mad! Just out to get free money. As an Englishman who lives near Hadrian's Wall who may have descendants from back then, do I get reparations from Rome? The whole idea of reparations is absolutely farcical.
If it comes to this country, will Gary Lineker qualify?......
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What a tool he is....
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Why don't we try and concentrate on the now, instead of the past? I can't afford to heat my rented house with two dependants! Yes I work bloody hard, no credit cards, no debt, pay my bills with difficulty, no holiday for years and you expect me to agree to this!!! Please, this is not relevant today. Everyone was using slaves in those days, Black wealthy people used to sell their people too! Move on
People who were never slave owners should not give money to people who were never slaves.
End of discussion.
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Should they send all of the relatives back to the country of origin?
Yes absolutely maybe we will get some peace.
@@duality5503 Ironically it was never the minority races' idea. This was forced upon them by virtue signalling white activists.
Iâm from Australia and my ancestors were illegally transported here in chains as prisoners of mother England. I canât wait until I get my reparations. đ
@@useyourbrain.5574 Firstly I was being facetious in attempt to highlight the absurdity of pursuing reparations. Secondly it is well documented that large numbers of convicts were transported for crimes that were at best innocuous at worst for merely being poor!
The whole point being is if we are going to pursue reparations based on applying todayâs morals and applications you would find oppressed peoples everywhere. If they are going to bake a reparations pie it would want to be a big one because eventually everyone would need a slice!
Iâm Irish
We were slaves too ..
So whereâs our dollars ..
It doesnt apply if you're not black...
Only BLM
@@bigboyrambo2009 Where are they for the starving of Africa though, where are they for the little children that go miles with a large bucket on their backs for water that could possibly kill them as it probably has cholera or typhus in it, or for the children whose eyelashes grow inwards and just need an antibiotic, or for the women in the Congo and Eritrea corrupt and deadly places where they are raped frequently by militia men. You could go back to Stone Age man and find he probably enslaved too, pathetic woke crap.
All grifters!
Something for nothing mentality
Think the descendants of the children of Britain, who had to go down mines and up chimneys, work in factories, at very young ages should definitely qualify for compensation.
Fundamental problem?
CALIFORNIA DID NOT HAVE ANY SLAVES!!! EVER!!
From, A Cali Native!
Yeah my dad went down a coal mine and often came up looking black after a shift, some good reparations for that surely.
Everyone wants something for nothing.
No way, they need to go right back to the beginning of the chin, the African Kings who sold their own people.
That lady needs to cool down, being angry gets you no where.
Who sold the slaves!!! start with tribal kings!!!!
No. Never.
Trace back to source - Africa
I think the best thing we can do for these people who want reparations is to pay for them to go back to the lands their ancestors were so cruely ripped away from so these perfect communities can thrive....also if she's comparing slavery to the murder of 6 million people just because of they're religion she needs sectioning not an invite on a news channel
How does she know her ancestors were slaves?
I love seeing those ancestory programmes where they trace down their relatives past and find out they come from a family of slave owners who were black ,
Seeing them die inside at that moment makes me all warm and giddy inside
Can the west be compensated for all the cultural enrichment weâve had to endure for the last 70 years?
Here, here! In their defense they did give us gang culture, increased knife crime, increased rape, increased burglary, increased sex trafficking, increased pick pocketing, increased mafia presence, an over populated health service, overwhelmed police force and whole host of other wonderful benefits.
The Pharaoh owes TRILLIONS.
Can I put a claim against Italian government for my ancestors being forced into slavery
The money should come from the original source that sold them and they didn't come from here
Just look at your commentators!! They're arguing about which of them deserves money and why, which proves the point that reparations is a stupid idea! Everyone gets greedy. Everyone. And everyone has legit historical pain. Move on!
Nicely put
It all comes down to me me me mentality
Whole universe with galaxies and solar systems and on this little planet everyone is running around like insignificant ants in a colony with their egos yelling ' but what about me I've suffered more '
Humans are fucking idiots
Lin Mei is typical of young bigoted so called intellectuals. If you notice she doesnt listen, or take in what other people are saying. Often interrupting and talking over other valid points. I was taught, as a senior manager, to listen, spend a moment considering what has been said, then another moment forming a reply. this gains respect. I have no respect for her, or others like her.
Would that be a one time payout or would the next generation also have a claim? Things that start out as historical end up being modern generations with their generational pain claim sticking their hands out for compensation is ridiculous. Bet they wouldn't have known they were in pain if they hadn't been told by the Woke brigade!
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The world's gone mad
My name is James and my family tree on both sides has been traced back in England half a millennium so far and my surname originated in comberford Staffordshire 900 years ago , I'm as Anglo saxon as they come on this island
But for this argument I call myself Leeroy and identify as a black man who had ancestors who were enslaved just so I can help pay these poxy gas and electric bills
Thanks
My family member who had slaves lost everything when Maryland declared emancipation. We ALREADY PAID for their "sins", thanks.
Just who is going to administer such a crazy idea.
Sorting out compensation for every person whose blood line suffered some sort of injustice at random times throughout history.
It's an insane idea.
They can step right up and provide that bio sample to the big heads.... wtf
Isn't the $billions in foreign aid to African coiuntries compensation enough?
"Reparations committee." What a joke.
Every person from every culture that come from slavery should be paid if that's the case, it's unfundable ,
Iâm Scottish. The English kept us poor for centuries and forced many to leave their homes. I want money too!
Acknowledge the mistakes of the past but paying for them makes no sense.
How about a one-way ticket back to the wonderful civilized mother continent of Africa as 'compensation'? Would solve a lot of problems for the West and drastically reduce knife crime in London!
I vote for that
$5m ! Wow, SF has some seriously rich taxpayers, and deep pockets. Cadillac franchises will be sold out for years.
Give an uneducated, unemployable and poor black person 5 million.... ten years later you have an uneducated, unemployable and poor black person with a 10 year old sports car.
the drug runners are in for a beanfeast
Something for nothing culture. Why do we pander to this bs #ReformUK #TheReclaimParty #TheHeritageParty
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Maybe we all need to identify as black slave descendants...
Hahaha that would turn the tide on the Wokies self identity insanity đđđđ
@@Josie545 If you cant beat them, join them, by stealing their arrogant minority status.
@@Josie545 Well if Human civilisation did start in Africa, technically the whole human race is Black.
Indeed. Play them at their own game.
It's exactly what has happened with the maoris in nz.
They have been given so much now they have a victim mentality and they dont get off their asses and better themselves.
It's all about the money, money. Get a life, get a job, get on with it, get outta my face.
It has indeed affected her, itâs took her out of the third world and into luxury in the 1st world
So, letâs have an example. An Italian family immigrated to the US in the 1920â. Slavery was abolished by then. But their defendants will now pay with their taxes compensation to someone their ancestors never enslaved. Or how about a family from the provinces of the former Austrian Empire? No slaves, no colonies, colonised themselves. They immigrated to California. Letâs say they ended up in SF. What are they guilty off?
They're guilty of helping to elect these idiots.
Pretty much most of white Europe can say this. Most whites are decended from broke ass nothing ness. Chimney sweeps and prostitutes. Farm labourers etc. Britain, France and Spain included. Very few were slave owners!
Well all white people are evil just by existing. If you say you didn't have anything to do with slavery, you are lying to yourself, and are part of the problem. There is no difference between anybody with white skin, regardless of their nationality. That is the current logic. Try and argue against it, and you will be shouted down.
Dvkaw. I agree. Just think the pop of the USA in 1865. Of which the % of blacks of that pop who were slaves. The pop now is x of which the vast majority is descended from people post 1865.
The Romans cam to the UK and enslaved us whereas our compensation
No. Why would people who didn't experience slavery receive money from people who have never owned slaves?
This is just aggressive begging.
Don't forget about the Native American's.
they already get compensation from the US government.
They've had tax cuts for decades
That's more than enough
You get what you pay for, and right now we pay for victimhood.
then most people on the plantet will be entitle to compansation,and why should people of today pay for the past that they didnt take part in, pure nonsense
They were compensated when their people sold their own neighbors into slavery. Charge the Country that sold these people. Not the ones who abolished slavery.
FYI USA is not racist. We suffer from classism.(Which you prove by saying money will fix the problem) Those who have or have not mutually blaming societies woes on each other. If we took the finger pointing out of the equation you would find that most people accept each other just fine.
@American Irish Girl: In the state of Mississippi which is a prominently African-American area, they still have segregated schools and a man was murdered by being dragged behind a car somewhere in the deep south a couple of years ago. America is such a vast country though that most American's only know what's going on in their own state and not in others, and yeah America's seem to always care about money, how much someone has etc.
@@jane1975 I have lived in several states. There is violence and hate crime throughout the known world. Doesn't always equal to racism. It's a lazy explanation rather than looking further into details.
Black people in the States should focus on rebuilding their family units. The number of single parent households, abortions, violent crimes is of the charts.
Great this day and age I can identify as what I want so today I mostly feel black
To my black sister you didn't pay taxes for something that happened a century ago
This will NEVER end. I want compensation for all the mental abuse, torment and bullying from teachers at school that ultimately effected my life.
Come on Romans, I want my reparations.
if you lose your leg you don't automatically deserve compensation, this young woman lives in a fantasy, nobody owes her anything
If you loose your leg, don't necesarry must loose your mind too
$5,000,000 ... NO
$5.00 ... YES
No not even $5. They are not victims of slavery.
@@WillCamx $5 would have bought a good slave in the 1850s
Why should Ling Mei get anything? Sheâs half Chinese
And about agency--my family is eligible for what was stolen from us during the Holocaust in Austria. I brought it to the family. Everyone was too lazy to fill out the paperwork. No one could be bothered. It isn't automatic (nor should it be). And NO ONE in the family falls into the category of "they need it". Largely why nonone was motivated to fill out the paperwork--we didn't feel comfortable taking it.
But let's go back to the fact that there were no slaves in California?? Ever!!
The monies there just claim it if you feel the need, Germany's been paying since the war ended.
Iâll have some reparations from the dinosaurs. Thank you đđ đŠ
NO. The majority of the human race has ancestors who suffered due to the policies and politics of the time.
This is wrong on multiple levels and very very damaging.
And who will pay this compensation, tax payers? That's not fair, if any compensation is given it should be by the people who's families had slaves.
Is British working class getting compensation from Sweden & Norway for the Vikings invasions? Or compensation from Italy for the Roman invasion?
And if the black people in America want compensation do they then get sent back to Africa?
Yes I'm for in,but it has to include every country,so the French ,Germans the Italians the Danes the Irish and the rest who invaded here and no exemption for Africa and the middle east who if you do really know your history will find were the biggest perpetrators of this crime and still are to this day,many thanks
Bloody ridiculous. Why should people today be punished for the sins of our fore fathers. Where does it end?
If that money is given, when the money has been spent, what difference to their life's would it have made.
Give an uneducated, unemployable and poor black person 5 million.... ten years later you have an uneducated, unemployable and poor black person with a 10 year old sports car.
No. Put that money towards ending modern day slavery.
I self identify as a translantic slave descendant, where do I sign?
Me too! Don' beat me Massa!
No next question
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Any blacks in California where for the most part free. And many were given 40 acres of land, wheres that gone.
NotNO he!! NO
I identify as a black slave descendant