Speaking as a BN conductor/engineer, I can assure you that neither of those trains was running at 75 MPH although the Z9 probably was running at 69 MPH since our max speed on any track is 70 MPH
Yep. Way too many railfans insist on arguing this all over CZcams. There is NOWHERE in the US where ANY railroad is running freight above 70MPH. UP, BNSF and CSX all have sections of 70 MPH for Intermodal. NS Has a systemwide max of 60 for Intermodal. But that's it. These buffs don't understand how locomotive overspeed's work and how PTC works. They keep saying dumb stuff like "Well, sometimes the engineer likes to run a little hot"🤣🤣 That's not how it works. And my favorite is "I clocked one going faster".
I work for BNSF as a conductor for over 22 years and we cannot do 75 MPH and why do you stay so close to the tracks... if we derail or something falls off your Dead. plz stay away from the tracks
Funny you say that. I worked briefly for Swift back in 2000 and the logistics and dispatchers where unprofessional along with no business experience whatsoever. And the in company politics made it a nightmare to work for. After a year I became a owner operator and never looked back.
Cool video, I love the sound effects. I really liked watching the front light of the second train coming in, it building and building. I also liked that the man was stood in front of the camera too because as with the plants, it means you get to see the wind picked up from the train through his clothes.
@@ejdsndnj and lol that's not a harsh insult, saying "you wouldn't know a _____ if it bit you on the ass" is like... cuffing you upside the head and saying "c'mon, man"... it's meant to be friendly
I do now recall that around 1989 (back when the dinosaurs roamed) I caught a crew call for an eastbound 18 locomotive consist of deadhead power (Dash eights mainly) with a way car light on Christmas eve on the Santa Fe out of Emporia, Kansas. We wuz in a hurry and I'm sure we hit 75 or so while dodging slow orders. We abandoned the mandatory caboose and jumped in the last motor of the consist. Got to Argentine Yard (AY tower) in a little over an hour and a half.
I'm glad your memory is slowing returning! lol :) On my railway - the CPR - the maximum freight train speed on my division for a short time in '77-'78 was 65 mph. That said the fastest that I ever went was 73 mph on a 15,000 ton grain train. (Uphill slow, downhill fast!) We had an all MLW (ALCO) consist and they were geared for 75. When the max. speed was 65 it was quite common to go close to 70 because I believe the overspeed was set at 68 for the GM's. And if you had an all MLW consist - well just let it roll!
Bob Johnson..... What division were you working back then (1977 - 78)? I was working the Bredenbury / Yarbo Potash Sub as head end brakeman, then back to S'toon to start OJT for engineer on the Prairie Div.
That 2nd train sounded like something out of Star Wars! pewpew-pewpew... This was awesome, thank you for recording. I miss trains... live in a city which rarely has them crawl through from when younger.
I have to smh at someone that close to a train traveling that speed...the stuff that flies off those trains can kill you! 35 years experience as a conductor on BNSF is how I know.
@@floridianrailauto9032 It's very likely Gordon Peters worked for either Burlington Northern (founded in 1970) or Satna Fe (founded 1859) when the companies were purchased/ merged to become BNSF in 1995.
Excellent video, for sure. But the thing that scares me is that the guy in the video is standing too close to the r.o.w., especially when the 2nd train rolled by at @ 75 mph. I'm so glad none of those cars derailed because at that speed it's not likely he could have gotten out of the way fast enough to avoid being taken out himself.
Actually, overspeed protection is triggered at 73 mph, not 74 or 75. But in reality, it's not that big of deal. Seeing trains go this fast, especially a freight train, is pretty cool.
@ squach623 Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the required 14L whistle for the road crossing for approx. 13 seconds. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the road crossing. If you do the math, you'll get your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol It beats guessing!
Nope, whistle! I know; I'm a locomotive engineer. Under the rules governing railroads it is known as a 'whistle', NOT a "horn". The 'whistle signal', NOT "horn" signal, for public crossings at grade is known as a '14L' ( __ __ o __ ) Two long, one short, and one long. The 'whistle post', NOT "horn" post is located exactly 1/4 mile from public crossings at grade and other locations as required under the rules and operating conditions. 'Whistle', is therefore, the correct terminology.
Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the 14L whistle approx. 13 seconds for the road crossing. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the crossing. If you do the math you'll have your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol
You just totally made that up (or whoever told you that did). There is no such law, local or federal that says anything so ridiculous. There isn't even a rule in any railroad book that says that. Unofficially we don't dump the train any time something is on the tracks. Because 99% of the time whatever it is moves. But in almost 30 years running trains i have dumped one many times before i impacted something. No Law or Rule says i can't.
Pacer Stack Train...Csx...Pacer Stack Train...Pacer Stack Train...BNSF...Pacer Stack Train...CSX Intermodal...Conrail...Pacer Stack Train.....etc etc. Me and my girl shout the names as they go screamin past 10 feet away. It makes you dizzy!!!
The same thing happened several months ago, when I was on a bus that was stopped at a railroad crossing. After the train went through the crossing, I expected the crossing bell to stop ringing and the gates to go up right away, but they didn't. I started thinking to myself why this was so, and then my silent question was answered when another train went through the crossing from the opposite direction.
Ripley New York, 5 miles from the Pennsylvania State Line, Lake Erie Lake Plain, 2 CXS tracks and 1 NS track, every 30 minutes a train goes through there, trains this long,, and this fast. Was in the 100 feet distance between the CXS and the NS tracks with an Eastbound train on both of them. Caught by one gate and the other gate comes down behind me. (Right in town they are synchronized, but outside of that crossing, this can happen). I saw the headlights on both engines and knew that would be a virtual tie between which got to the crossing first.
I remember a story I heard while working for the Union Pacific. A young boy was standing about where this guy was and threw a rock at the train. The rock hit the rubber tire and came back at him full force, hit him in the head, and killed him.
It depends on how BNSF had them geared when they were ordered. (Of course thats assuming they had choices available when they ordered them) Might be faster, might not, only they know for sure. If you know someone who can get a timetable for that division/district that would have all the info you would need.
Not needed. In the past the caboose was a rolling office. It was also a way for the crew to monitor the end of the train for movement, air pressure, etc. Now that is done electronically and computers do the 'office work'
I had a railroad employee once tell me that you shouldn't stand so close to the tracks as a freight train passes, because if a strap or chain/cable has come loose, it will cut you in half as it goes by. I thought that was very good advise and have always followed it since.
60mph... BNSF units do not have cab signals... still fun video.... (former BNSF Engr) Nice whistle second train And yes step back a bit... PLEASE... we feel guilty when the public gets hurt... we shouldn't but it's natural
Meet? No. If the trains 'met' at this crossing, they would have at least been going through it at the same time. No, this was one train going by, and then another one went by in the other direction a minute later. Words mean things.
It was a video of trains passing each other MORE-OR-LESS near the crossing. VERY anticlimactic and NOT what i expected......this sort of thing happens all day every day....unremarkable.
Good video. Thanks! And if it derails or whatever, at least we die doing what we love....watching trains. I still miss the old locos, especially the 4-8-4 and 4-6-6-4 Pacifics. l got to see a couple of 4-8-8-4 Big Boys, too.
Herding Cats yes we do follow the rules. With all of the GPS and recorded control movements the company knows everything we do and we can be fired if we speed. And the units can't do over 73 without tripping the overspeed and coming to a stop.
BNSF has probably got the best track in the industry, but guys, I would not stand closer than 300 feet or so to a freight train going 75mph. If anything burps, some of those cars will be on top of you and several feet from the track.
You should be more scared of driving to the grocery store, honestly. The chances of getting in a fatal accident during a short drive, even if you are an exceptional driver, is dozens of times more likely to happen than a freight train derailing right in front of you. Walking on the sidewalk or going on a hike is also probably more deadly.
I would say 65 but not 75MPH. Freights are allowed 65mph depending what they have in their consist. then the mileage per hour drop from there. Now with passenger trains that are allowed to travel at a higher speed.
So let us do some math. This video, post upload and processing, runs at 30 fps. I can confirm this by right-clicking the video and then clicking 'stats for nerds'. Next to current/optimal res is [video resulution]@30. that 30 is the frame rate. You can also pause the video and hit the period key to move the video forward frame by frame, counting the frames and you'll find this result. Next, while the camera is stationary, I waited for the edge of a 40-foot container to hit the edge of the screen. Then incremented the video one frame at a time, counting the frames as I go, until the far edge of the container hits the edge of the screen. For the first train, the average number of frames needed for a container to clear the screen was 13, for the second train, 17 frames. Doing some math: 13frames/30frames = 0.433 seconds repeating => 40ft/0.433 seconds is ~= 92.37ft/s => 63 MPH. So the first train was traveling at 63 MPH. Using the same method we can figure that the second train was traveling at 48 MPH
I'd like to know why the title and title picture imply two trains meeting head on at 75mph. The little picture shows what appears to be an explosion as a result of the "meet". Even though I'm a hard-core railfan and N gauge hobbiest with a Tehachapi Loop set-up, I give RANDY2045 a "thumbs down" for a misleading title. Maybe it should read: "BNSF Freights Pass at Approximately 75MPH" being the fact they didn't "meet" but 1/2 a mile away. Stupid kids today. Jeez...
probably more like 55mph. only a fool ( meaning anyone younger than me LOL ) would stand so casually & so close to a freight train without considering the consequences
There is a lot of fools in this world. You should see how close some fools have put some apartments on west 4 in Austin Texas. about 50 feet from the tracks on a tight curve that has had 3 derailments in the last 10 years.
Was going to say the same thing. The way the wheels are hitting, about 1 1/10 of a second should tell you that the train is traveling at least 65-70 mph. Fucking scary, but such beautiful machines at the same time. I train hopped once... I also jumped off the said train, when it was going around 30-40 mph. That was a little over 3 years ago now. I really don't know how I am still alive, too be honest. It should have killed me, but I am extremely grateful that I only broke my hand and wrist. It is crazy how things happen, but I have come to terms with the fact, that I will probably die before I am 35, due to severe head trauma, that just hasn't showed it face yet. Although, when I Jumped, I jumped even with the train, which obviously I hit the ground with an outstretched arm, which took most of the impact. Going that fast though, I began to roll, as soon as I hit. I rolled for what, seemed like a good 2-3 seconds, before I stood up and screamed the loudest/longest I ever have. Then I began to laugh, pick up my beanie, that was knocked off my head, and then walked a half mile home. I had to hop another train, just to get to my house. Let me tell you, I was waiting at the stopped train for a good 5 minutes, before I decided to just climb it and get the fuck over. I still love trains, but after that night, they are a scary fucking thing. I went to sleep when I got home and slept til about 9am, went to the hospital and they gave me morphine, not once, but twice, and it still didn't take any relief. They were cleaning out my elbow, because I had train rock, logged into the my elbow. Lol. WORST PHYSICAL PAIN EVER. Needless to say I was in a cast for almost half a year. Wrist, hand doesn't work like it used to. It affects my guitar playing and some days, I wake up with it numb, but I attribute that to also breaking my knuckles many times, by punching shit. I should have just road the train, until it stopped. I had the cash to come back home on, but I don't know. When I saw it picking up more speed, I said fuck it and jumped. Where I road it at, they hits speeds of 55 mph. I have many heart scans/test done and my body is pretty much in good shape, besides broken bones all over the place, in my life. The only thing I have not had scanned, is my head. It is rather frightening to think about. I know when I go in for the test, they are going to find something alarming. I don't want to know. Shit. Funny thing is, I was as dumb as a box of rocks, before that night. Since then, I feel like my intelligence has grown tremendously. It really is funny how life works, but at the same time, it is beautifully tragic.
Bruce Benson 3 of us jumped a train long ago that was heading out of town. When we noticed the train picking up speed we immediately jumped. Cause it was only gonna get worse.
Gotta love the Safety Sallies - telling everyone else how to live their lives. If these people want to stand that close to a railroad track - that's THEIR choice - NOT yours. They accept the risk of being that close. Their safety is NOT YOUR problem - give it a rest.
Wayne Wilkie Yah, and don't you know ambulance-chasing lawyers get the families of these kinds of accident victims all riled up to sue the railroad for something.
What a load of crap. Try being the person on the train that has hit one of these people and killed them. It's not a good feeling, knowing you just hit someone then having to go back and find the person, (yeah we have to go back and look for the body) call in the emergency, deal with the police, being pulled out of service for trama, (lose income), having to be drug tested (like it was our fault), give depositions (lose more income) and to top it all off have the family sue the railroad then sue the train crew personally (possibly hiring a lawyer $$$ and lose even more income)!!! All because you have to be so close to the track to take a picture or video of the train??? Those of us that have dealt with these fatality's at railroad crossings see the danger you are in because we do this everyday, we have seen busted banding straps (thin metal used to secure loads moving at these speed's would be like a razor blade if it struck you) hanging off the sides of passing train cars several feet long. There is crap all along the tracks that has come off moving trains. I wouldn't want to be hit by something moving at up to 70 mph. Then theres the fact that we can do nothing by the time we see you, its too late to stop. We don't forget what happened when we are involved in a fatality. Some of us have been involved in more than 1. It can be prevented if people will just stand back from the tracks. Your cameras have zoom so back up away from the tracks a safe distance and record all you want, we could care less. All we want is for everyone to be safe and live to enjoy another day. So tell me again how their safety is not our problem?
Freight Trains can go 70 mph or faster if certain conditions are met. First you must have in cab signals. These let you know what the upcoming signals are before you get to the signal. Second the track needs to be as close to being straight as much as possible. Third you must have signals placed farther apart than you would for other tracks. These are governed by the FRA Intermodal trains which are shown in this video usually goes 10 mph faster than the allowed speed of normal freight trains. Amtrak goes even faster than intermodal. But train speeds are governed most of all by track conditions, posted track speed and passing through towns may require reduced speeds. And anything can happen at any time. Rail can break or for some other reasons can separate or even buckel like a slithering snake. The gauge of the rails can widen too much as well causing a train to derail. These can happen without no warnings and while the train is passing over the section of rail. You can also have a lot of other things such as a knuckles breaking, draw bars dropping, which can tear up the rail, air hoses separating, which can cause a train to derail. There is just too many variables to even begin to list but these that I did mention are some of the more common problems that train crews face every day. And if you think even 100 ft is safe, then watch this video czcams.com/video/ty_aVg9sho4/video.html
That's why it's so important to look both ways once more when you think the train has passed.
No shit
@@adventurerian5872 😂
When around (multiple) tracks - expect a train on ANY track, at ANY time.
Unless it’s one track
Escally Right
Speaking as a BN conductor/engineer, I can assure you that neither of those trains was running at 75 MPH although the Z9 probably was running at 69 MPH since our max speed on any track is 70 MPH
Yep. Way too many railfans insist on arguing this all over CZcams. There is NOWHERE in the US where ANY railroad is running freight above 70MPH. UP, BNSF and CSX all have sections of 70 MPH for Intermodal. NS Has a systemwide max of 60 for Intermodal. But that's it. These buffs don't understand how locomotive overspeed's work and how PTC works. They keep saying dumb stuff like "Well, sometimes the engineer likes to run a little hot"🤣🤣 That's not how it works. And my favorite is "I clocked one going faster".
Well we Santa Fe employees run the way you bn employees run, but better
Close enough!
I heard light engines or very short trains can run 80 MPH
@@GLOATINGMAPLE01 Light engines means no cars. and still max of 70
WOW. That was one helluva U-turn. I've never seen one that fast in my life.
If it wasnt for the loco position, and paint scheme, I would have thought so too.
you probably never played the snake on you nokia
@@fft2020 That sounds like a masterbation reference. I couldn't wait...I had to go play my snake on the nokia. It was awesome.
@@DarthVader19-77 haha
now you know that the snake can make u-turns pretty damn quick
It didn't do a U-Turn
Rumor has it the conductor applied the brakes 3 days ago and it finally came to a stop.
tubez4321 lol
Rumor has it that it’s still rolling to this day- 3 years later
The conductor????
@@chooch1995 no caboose no conductor
@@tomjones6256 There's a conductor, but he's in the lead locomotive with the engineer. It's the engineer who applies the brakes.
That second train coming twords the camera really puts into perspective the sheer mass & speed of a moving train.
Yeah, just three workin' girls doing their thing and I can't stop replaying it.
Absolutely power down low and go go gi
" shit I forgot my lunch pail", turns train around comes back!
Lol
It didn’t turn around
@@ejdsndnj that... that's the joke... jesus...
@@jamesm6638 how am I suppose to know if it's a joke?
@@ejdsndnj because nobody would ACTUALLY think that a train did a u-turn
If you look closely you can see Brave Dave hiding out on the 30th car.
Nunya Bizness Nahhhh
Damn, I forgot about dave.
Big deal. You've never seen a train turn around and come back before?
La Leaf now that's fucking funny
Never have
That was funny😂😂
@Christopher Smith woosh
Abbie Colley wow kid I’d like to know when I asked for your opinion.
If they were going 75, there would be two engine persons out of a job now.
I work for BNSF as a conductor for over 22 years and we cannot do 75 MPH and why do you stay so close to the tracks... if we derail or something falls off your Dead. plz stay away from the tracks
Steve Nolan same reason people jump out of planes. It's a thrill.
Same reason people are killed jumping out of planes seeking that thrill!
Watching the truck vans (trailers) pass a fixed point in less than 0.7 seconds makes the second train about 68 mph or so.
I know I was like bruh, get away from the tracks!
Are we really worried about stuff falling off our trains, or a train derailment.....let's be realistic. That is all.
Really great video. An exciting event capture without using any telephoto lensing, and showing the entire length of each train. Super job.
Sooooo spectacular seeing that much weight move with soooo much momentum! It truly is jaw-dropping and the vid does it no justice!
There is one way for JB and Swift to get their trucks cross country intact!!
DITTO,very good sir
Funny you say that. I worked briefly for Swift back in 2000 and the logistics and dispatchers where unprofessional along with no business experience whatsoever. And the in company politics made it a nightmare to work for. After a year I became a owner operator and never looked back.
Cool video, I love the sound effects. I really liked watching the front light of the second train coming in, it building and building. I also liked that the man was stood in front of the camera too because as with the plants, it means you get to see the wind picked up from the train through his clothes.
Ok, who else was waiting for Marty and the Delorean to re enter 1985?
You were filming on the BNSF Chillicothe Subdivision. It is a part of the BNSF Southern Transcon that stretches from Chicago to Los Angeles.
The u-turn was so fast they lost the leading loco...
Oh come on....of course it was.
@@ejdsndnj dude this is youtube comments... you really wouldn't know a joke if it bit you on the ass, would you...
@@ejdsndnj dude you're acting like a 10 year old, please get off the internet
@@ejdsndnj and lol that's not a harsh insult, saying "you wouldn't know a _____ if it bit you on the ass" is like... cuffing you upside the head and saying "c'mon, man"... it's meant to be friendly
@@ejdsndnj are you breaking google's terms of service by being under 13? (hint: yes you are) :)
the size of these locomotives are awe inspiring.
Mechanical monsters
You are a brave soul standing that close to the tracks ! I couldn't do it. Enjoyed the video !
Brave, NO! Stupid, YES!
Dumb ass standing that close. Gee I wonder if he could see it?
Just pinch your cheeks and hope for the best.
That second train was doing the work of 98 trucks. Amazing.
I do now recall that around 1989 (back when the dinosaurs roamed) I caught a crew call for an eastbound 18 locomotive consist of deadhead power (Dash eights mainly) with a way car light on Christmas eve on the Santa Fe out of Emporia, Kansas. We wuz in a hurry and I'm sure we hit 75 or so while dodging slow orders. We abandoned the mandatory caboose and jumped in the last motor of the consist. Got to Argentine Yard (AY tower) in a little over an hour and a half.
I'm glad your memory is slowing returning! lol :) On my railway - the CPR - the maximum freight train speed on my division for a short time in '77-'78 was 65 mph. That said the fastest that I ever went was 73 mph on a 15,000 ton grain train. (Uphill slow, downhill fast!) We had an all MLW (ALCO) consist and they were geared for 75. When the max. speed was 65 it was quite common to go close to 70 because I believe the overspeed was set at 68 for the GM's. And if you had an all MLW consist - well just let it roll!
Bob Johnson..... What division were you working back then (1977 - 78)? I was working the Bredenbury / Yarbo Potash Sub as head end brakeman, then back to S'toon to start OJT for engineer on the Prairie Div.
uboat6313 What ?
'Twas brillig in the frithy toves..."
Great doppler effect from the horn of the first train
They it’s hard to believe something that big can go freeway speed.
That 2nd train sounded like something out of Star Wars! pewpew-pewpew... This was awesome, thank you for recording. I miss trains... live in a city which rarely has them crawl through from when younger.
if an IBC falls off that train at that speed that dude is dead! Always stay a safe distance.
I have to smh at someone that close to a train traveling that speed...the stuff that flies off those trains can kill you! 35 years experience as a conductor on BNSF is how I know.
BNSF has only been around for 25 years tho
@@floridianrailauto9032 It's very likely Gordon Peters worked for either Burlington Northern (founded in 1970) or Satna Fe (founded 1859) when the companies were purchased/ merged to become BNSF in 1995.
How many people did you see killed?
Excellent video, for sure. But the thing that scares me is that the guy in the video is standing too close to the r.o.w., especially when the 2nd train rolled by at @ 75 mph. I'm so glad none of those cars derailed because at that speed it's not likely he could have gotten out of the way fast enough to avoid being taken out himself.
The energy you feel as it blows past you❤
Yes Well said
Actually, overspeed protection is triggered at 73 mph, not 74 or 75. But in reality, it's not that big of deal. Seeing trains go this fast, especially a freight train, is pretty cool.
ThirdTerm That wasn't any faster than 50 mph,the first train! The second one was maybe the same, no more than 50 mph.
@ squach623 Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the required 14L whistle for the road crossing for approx. 13 seconds. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the road crossing. If you do the math, you'll get your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol It beats guessing!
Nope, whistle! I know; I'm a locomotive engineer. Under the rules governing railroads it is known as a 'whistle', NOT a "horn". The 'whistle signal', NOT "horn" signal, for public crossings at grade is known as a '14L' ( __ __ o __ ) Two long, one short, and one long. The 'whistle post', NOT "horn" post is located exactly 1/4 mile from public crossings at grade and other locations as required under the rules and operating conditions. 'Whistle', is therefore, the correct terminology.
And in Canada it is a whistle, per the 'Canadian Rail Operating Rules' Rule 14. ENGINE WHISTLE SIGNALS.
"I think" the last blast of the whistle must sound until the lead locomotive completely occupies the crossing ?
"Yea, let's stand close to a fast traveling freight train, nothing can go wrong!" Five minutes later: *splat!*
Am I the only one who feels the nostalgia here?
If that train derails, you are screwed standing that close.
Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the 14L whistle approx. 13 seconds for the road crossing. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the crossing. If you do the math you'll have your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol
Don't forget the speed of sound, it takes a little more than a second to travel that 1/4 mile from the train to the mic.
That's correct and was factored in.
At that speed, the whistle post has be back in the previous county. Nice.
The pity of this is that engineers are forbidden by law to stop the train until they actually impact something.
You just totally made that up (or whoever told you that did). There is no such law, local or federal that says anything so ridiculous. There isn't even a rule in any railroad book that says that. Unofficially we don't dump the train any time something is on the tracks. Because 99% of the time whatever it is moves. But in almost 30 years running trains i have dumped one many times before i impacted something. No Law or Rule says i can't.
I like hearing the sound of that train roaring down the tracks
legend says that guy is still there waiting for a goddamn train
Well if something was going to go wrong he would have a front row seat.
I don't get why people stand so close... if something went wrong they would never find that guy as he would be buried 20feet deep in the corn field
I have never seen trailers transported like that before and I used to work for the railroad!!
nice video Randy and great catch of the 2 stack train's with BNSF power on them.
Pacer Stack Train...Csx...Pacer Stack Train...Pacer Stack Train...BNSF...Pacer Stack Train...CSX Intermodal...Conrail...Pacer Stack Train.....etc etc. Me and my girl shout the names as they go screamin past 10 feet away. It makes you dizzy!!!
The second train was most awesome!!! SWEEEEEET video!
The same thing happened several months ago, when I was on a bus that was stopped at a railroad crossing. After the train went through the crossing, I expected the crossing bell to stop ringing and the gates to go up right away, but they didn't. I started thinking to myself why this was so, and then my silent question was answered when another train went through the crossing from the opposite direction.
Lots of people think it’s a malfunction and just cross over double track territory, but scenes just like this constantly turn tragic
Hi
Just curious what is a freight train doing over 75 mph? Is that speed normal for towing all these containers.
As a kid I used to love watching speeding freight trains and I still do❤
Interesting effect in the first few seconds - the flashing lights on the cross-arm appear to be on the ground.
MikeInPlano
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Looks to be going about 65MPH. Westbound intermodals in my area typically go that fast.
Are you kidding me?! Absolutely not. They’re both going right around 75. I see them run 74-75 near me and this is what they were doing.
@@paulspomer16 no GE’s and EMD’s both are limited to 70 mph so there’s no way them going 74-75.
@@TNandTXRailfan They aren’t though. I’ve seen them going 75 with my own eyes and confirmed by radar gun.
I often wondered what footage you can get if you placed the camera between the rails?
Dude standing right in the middle of things was a nice touch, really made the video much better.
I love high speed freight trains!
The BNSF and the UP know how to run trains, csx and ns have a lot to learn.
Ripley New York, 5 miles from the Pennsylvania State Line, Lake Erie Lake Plain, 2 CXS tracks and 1 NS track, every 30 minutes a train goes through there, trains this long,, and this fast. Was in the 100 feet distance between the CXS and the NS tracks with an Eastbound train on both of them. Caught by one gate and the other gate comes down behind me. (Right in town they are synchronized, but outside of that crossing, this can happen). I saw the headlights on both engines and knew that would be a virtual tie between which got to the crossing first.
how many total tons is this entire train pulling?
I didn't think two trains could pass each other at that speed.
I remember a story I heard while working for the Union Pacific. A young boy was standing about where this guy was and threw a rock at the train. The rock hit the rubber tire and came back at him full force, hit him in the head, and killed him.
A rubber tire on what?
The rubber tire on the semi trailer on the flat car.
@Travelling Tom That was definitely worthy of a 'Darwin Award', at least an 'honourable mention'! lol
Yeah I would say so. Kids do dumb things though.
And the dumbest ones, thankfully, never get the chance to pass those dumb genes on! lol
I'd definitely say the second train was going slightly faster.
Ask the guy standing in front. He was closer.
Not close enough.
I know you are right
definitly wrong
I wonder how many of the trucks on the second train were carrying the same type of goods as those on the first train.
ENJOYED IT MUCH, THANKS !!
Second train, fastest I've ever seen one go.
At 1:37, How'd they turn that train around so fast ?
It was a meet, cause trains don’t turn around, unless if you use magic to do so, but that’s even real in reality
Maybe 55-60 each. Last freight to regularly hit 75-80 was ATSF Super C.
Thanks a million Ty. We have just moved to Rockaway, Oregon. Lots of action here with the Oregon Coast train
Worked the rails. Not going 75mph
The film was speeded up
@@tommytruth7595 Nah it wasn't, just wasn't going 75.
It'd been better if the other foamer would have got his ass out of the picture
Amed Tajan locomotive by itself is like 410,000 lbs
Anthony Smith at best 7000tons
Amed Tajan the most I've seen is 1,700 tons.
Grant Christopherson 1700 or 17000???
Kreig Dernier 1,700
It depends on how BNSF had them geared when they were ordered. (Of course thats assuming they had choices available when they ordered them) Might be faster, might not, only they know for sure. If you know someone who can get a timetable for that division/district that would have all the info you would need.
maybe someone reading this works for a railroad..Can someone please tell me why they don't use a caboose on the tail end anymore.
Not needed. In the past the caboose was a rolling office. It was also a way for the crew to monitor the end of the train for movement, air pressure, etc. Now that is done electronically and computers do the 'office work'
Some amtraks do 110 most of them do 79
I had a railroad employee once tell me that you shouldn't stand so close to the tracks as a freight train passes, because if a strap or chain/cable has come loose, it will cut you in half as it goes by. I thought that was very good advise and have always followed it since.
Tim S I H8 U
Like the ending of the first Final Destination movie.
"You are not taking me with you!" *fwap*.
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As a truck driver,I see money.
anyone know uf the rails are made from a special steel ?
thats a hell of alot wear and tear the trains put out, Id imagine that steel is expensive.
its really fast how the train turn and come back.
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60mph... BNSF units do not have cab signals... still fun video.... (former BNSF Engr) Nice whistle second train
And yes step back a bit... PLEASE... we feel guilty when the public gets hurt... we shouldn't but it's natural
Um the high line is 70, and so is the trans con, not sure what can signals would do to change that.
I Never felt guilty about hitting anyone. But, I never forgot what it sounds like.
The first train, usually you don't see a lashup of 4 unless going into mountains.
Anyone who stand that close to a fast moving train needs to be examined for active brain cells.
Meet? No. If the trains 'met' at this crossing, they would have at least been going through it at the same time. No, this was one train going by, and then another one went by in the other direction a minute later. Words mean things.
It was a video of trains passing each other MORE-OR-LESS near the crossing. VERY anticlimactic and NOT what i expected......this sort of thing happens all day every day....unremarkable.
Everybody quit arguing it's 68 mph I used my radar gun
It’s a 7 mph difference only so I don’t see the problem
You can’t use a radar gun through a screen
Good video. Thanks! And if it derails or whatever, at least we die doing what we love....watching trains. I still miss the old locos, especially the 4-8-4 and 4-6-6-4 Pacifics. l got to see a couple of 4-8-8-4 Big Boys, too.
4-6-4 Pacific's. 4-6-6-4's are Challenger's. :)
So empty/full semi trailers going one way, and at the same time, empty/full semi trailers going the other way.
haha you should have gone and filmed right in front of that guy
Those trains have a max of 70 mph. They can't go any faster than 70 on any part of the bnsf. Overspeed trips at 73.
That's the max they're supposed to go. But do they always follow the rule?
Herding Cats yes we do follow the rules. With all of the GPS and recorded control movements the company knows everything we do and we can be fired if we speed. And the units can't do over 73 without tripping the overspeed and coming to a stop.
Is that what is called Notch 8?
Herding Cats notch 8 is full throttle.
I thought there were freight engines such as the ES44AC that could do 75mph
Talk about having the hammer down. Mercy!!
What happens when you rewind a track??.
The train can finally take a U turn.
BNSF has probably got the best track in the industry, but guys, I would not stand closer than 300 feet or so to a freight
train going 75mph. If anything burps, some of those cars will be on top of you and several feet from the track.
So when you pull up to a road crossing and a train is going by you do not get any closer than a football field away from the train?
@C David That's about right!
Try doin a hobo piss in a 211 on that bad boy. Huck Huck
You should be more scared of driving to the grocery store, honestly. The chances of getting in a fatal accident during a short drive, even if you are an exceptional driver, is dozens of times more likely to happen than a freight train derailing right in front of you. Walking on the sidewalk or going on a hike is also probably more deadly.
Fast as 777
The aircraft? Or triple 7 from Unstoppable?
ItsMyDank747 yes
CSX train fan 7767 AWVR 777 went like 75 mph ish
SpicyRecovery that sounds about right... just ask denzel Washington or chris pine lol
They actually allow freight trains to move at that high of a speed?
Great Video! Thumbs Up!👍
maybe 50 at the most
The film was speeded up.
You tube
I would say 65 but not 75MPH. Freights are allowed 65mph depending what they have in their consist. then the mileage per hour drop from there. Now with passenger trains that are allowed to travel at a higher speed.
Kevin Barwiler No, evolution series GE's do 75mph. The highest speed they're commonly at is 70MPH. 65? That is BS.
So let us do some math.
This video, post upload and processing, runs at 30 fps. I can confirm this by right-clicking the video and then clicking 'stats for nerds'.
Next to current/optimal res is [video resulution]@30. that 30 is the frame rate.
You can also pause the video and hit the period key to move the video forward frame by frame, counting the frames and you'll find this result.
Next, while the camera is stationary, I waited for the edge of a 40-foot container to hit the edge of the screen. Then incremented the video one frame at a time, counting the frames as I go, until the far edge of the container hits the edge of the screen.
For the first train, the average number of frames needed for a container to clear the screen was 13, for the second train, 17 frames.
Doing some math: 13frames/30frames = 0.433 seconds repeating => 40ft/0.433 seconds is ~= 92.37ft/s => 63 MPH.
So the first train was traveling at 63 MPH. Using the same method we can figure that the second train was traveling at 48 MPH
I'd like to know why the title and title picture imply two trains meeting head on at 75mph. The little picture shows what appears to be an explosion as a result of the "meet". Even though I'm a hard-core railfan and N gauge hobbiest with a Tehachapi Loop set-up, I give RANDY2045 a "thumbs down" for a misleading title. Maybe it should read: "BNSF Freights Pass at Approximately 75MPH" being the fact they didn't "meet" but 1/2 a mile away. Stupid kids today. Jeez...
the title and title picture are click and it caught me and you
roy hoco me too but i dont give a shit anymore..at least there were super titties popping out of some trims top that never happens..
meant "were not" not "were".
see i cant even get my tittie scenarios right, i just dont give a "no le hace" anymore..
titties!
The 'explosion' is the lens flare from the gate lights...
When trains pass going the opposite way on parallel lines they meet.
What was this recorded on?
Top speed of those trains are 70mph
probably more like 55mph. only a fool ( meaning anyone younger than me LOL ) would stand so casually & so close to a freight train without considering the consequences
Only a fool would be so afraid of such a safe form of transport.
Go to my videos davehughesfarm...Fast freight la plata mo. Gauranted filmed one 70 plus
There is a lot of fools in this world. You should see how close some fools have put some apartments on west 4 in Austin Texas. about 50 feet from the tracks on a tight curve that has had 3 derailments in the last 10 years.
Was going to say the same thing. The way the wheels are hitting, about 1 1/10 of a second should tell you that the train is traveling at least 65-70 mph. Fucking scary, but such beautiful machines at the same time. I train hopped once... I also jumped off the said train, when it was going around 30-40 mph. That was a little over 3 years ago now. I really don't know how I am still alive, too be honest. It should have killed me, but I am extremely grateful that I only broke my hand and wrist. It is crazy how things happen, but I have come to terms with the fact, that I will probably die before I am 35, due to severe head trauma, that just hasn't showed it face yet. Although, when I Jumped, I jumped even with the train, which obviously I hit the ground with an outstretched arm, which took most of the impact. Going that fast though, I began to roll, as soon as I hit. I rolled for what, seemed like a good 2-3 seconds, before I stood up and screamed the loudest/longest I ever have. Then I began to laugh, pick up my beanie, that was knocked off my head, and then walked a half mile home. I had to hop another train, just to get to my house. Let me tell you, I was waiting at the stopped train for a good 5 minutes, before I decided to just climb it and get the fuck over. I still love trains, but after that night, they are a scary fucking thing. I went to sleep when I got home and slept til about 9am, went to the hospital and they gave me morphine, not once, but twice, and it still didn't take any relief. They were cleaning out my elbow, because I had train rock, logged into the my elbow. Lol. WORST PHYSICAL PAIN EVER. Needless to say I was in a cast for almost half a year. Wrist, hand doesn't work like it used to. It affects my guitar playing and some days, I wake up with it numb, but I attribute that to also breaking my knuckles many times, by punching shit. I should have just road the train, until it stopped. I had the cash to come back home on, but I don't know. When I saw it picking up more speed, I said fuck it and jumped. Where I road it at, they hits speeds of 55 mph. I have many heart scans/test done and my body is pretty much in good shape, besides broken bones all over the place, in my life. The only thing I have not had scanned, is my head. It is rather frightening to think about. I know when I go in for the test, they are going to find something alarming. I don't want to know. Shit. Funny thing is, I was as dumb as a box of rocks, before that night. Since then, I feel like my intelligence has grown tremendously. It really is funny how life works, but at the same time, it is beautifully tragic.
Bruce Benson 3 of us jumped a train long ago that was heading out of town. When we noticed the train picking up speed we immediately jumped. Cause it was only gonna get worse.
Hurricane winds!!
Mitch White not even close
That is why we stop at railroad crossings, and always watch for a second train when there are multiple tracks.
Stay backkkk....
Agreed they are standing in the danger zone if there is a train I get back into a safe zone on hump crossings i stop before the hump
Man if that train decided to derain he would have been as flat as a pancake.
FlavonoidzExplosion 😂😂😂😂😂
I love it, great film footage.
Thank you.
May of 2022 and I’m back watching! Love that screaming’ Z!
Gotta love the Safety Sallies - telling everyone else how to live their lives. If these people want to stand that close to a railroad track - that's THEIR choice - NOT yours. They accept the risk of being that close. Their safety is NOT YOUR problem - give it a rest.
(clutching pearls) BUT SOMEBODY MIGHT GET HURT!
But it's OK to put the train crew and all of the emergency responder crews through hell? That makes it THEIR problem - you, give it a rest!
Wayne Wilkie
Yah, and don't you know ambulance-chasing lawyers get the families of these kinds of accident victims all riled up to sue the railroad for something.
What a load of crap. Try being the person on the train that has hit one of these people and killed them. It's not a good feeling, knowing you just hit someone then having to go back and find the person, (yeah we have to go back and look for the body) call in the emergency, deal with the police, being pulled out of service for trama, (lose income), having to be drug tested (like it was our fault), give depositions (lose more income) and to top it all off have the family sue the railroad then sue the train crew personally (possibly hiring a lawyer $$$ and lose even more income)!!! All because you have to be so close to the track to take a picture or video of the train??? Those of us that have dealt with these fatality's at railroad crossings see the danger you are in because we do this everyday, we have seen busted banding straps (thin metal used to secure loads moving at these speed's would be like a razor blade if it struck you) hanging off the sides of passing train cars several feet long. There is crap all along the tracks that has come off moving trains. I wouldn't want to be hit by something moving at up to 70 mph. Then theres the fact that we can do nothing by the time we see you, its too late to stop. We don't forget what happened when we are involved in a fatality. Some of us have been involved in more than 1. It can be prevented if people will just stand back from the tracks. Your cameras have zoom so back up away from the tracks a safe distance and record all you want, we could care less. All we want is for everyone to be safe and live to enjoy another day. So tell me again how their safety is not our problem?
Blah blah blah. If we are not standing on the tracks, you are not going to hit us.
“Alright boys let’s turn this monster around and book it” *proceeds to turn the whole train around*
Freight Trains can go 70 mph or faster if certain conditions are met. First you must have in cab signals. These let you know what the upcoming signals are before you get to the signal. Second the track needs to be as close to being straight as much as possible. Third you must have signals placed farther apart than you would for other tracks. These are governed by the FRA
Intermodal trains which are shown in this video usually goes 10 mph faster than the allowed speed of normal freight trains. Amtrak goes even faster than intermodal. But train speeds are governed most of all by track conditions, posted track speed and passing through towns may require reduced speeds.
And anything can happen at any time. Rail can break or for some other reasons can separate or even buckel like a slithering snake. The gauge of the rails can widen too much as well causing a train to derail. These can happen without no warnings and while the train is passing over the section of rail.
You can also have a lot of other things such as a knuckles breaking, draw bars dropping, which can tear up the rail, air hoses separating, which can cause a train to derail. There is just too many variables to even begin to list but these that I did mention are some of the more common problems that train crews face every day.
And if you think even 100 ft is safe, then watch this video czcams.com/video/ty_aVg9sho4/video.html
Trains is my favorite mode of transportation
I would think those containers double stacked would be awfully top heavy.