Brilliant! This 3+4 question is on my mind a lot as i am 3+3 and wondering what happens if it goes up. Thank you for such precise questions and answers.
My last PSA was 4.65, biopsy results showed 2 needle cores with 3+3 and 15% total tissue, and 1 needle core with 3+4 at 15% total tissue. All 3 cores from the left side. The urologist said I could do active surveillance, radiation or surgery. Essentially just your standard 3 options. He didn’t pin down a recommendation. I got a CT scan and a bone scan which all indicated no spread. I saw a radiation oncologist who said I would be a good candidate for SBRT. I would really appreciate Dr Sholz input on this. But I am heavily leaning towards the SBRT.
This is an excellent question, but one that few will address. Nobody wants to take pathologists "out of the loop", in my opinion. The "system" is set up to do things a certain way, and there is a lot of resistance to change. Your point is an excellent one, and I've brought it up often, with no response....crickets.
Prostatectomy done a month back. Removed prostate gland is Gleason 3+4. Hormone therapy started ten days back. What is your view on the line of treatment, Sir?
Age 66, for 5 years the PSA was between 3-4, prostate volume 60-80cc, beginning of 2021 the PSA rose to 7, MRI showed cancer, 15th of October the prostate gland was removed, Gleason score 3 (70%)+4(30%), 10 weeks after surgery the PSA is now 0.02. If you have a large prostate and a resonably high PSA, you can't exclude cancer! Independent of the prostate size, if cancer can't be detected with the finger of the doctor, take an MRI ! Can save you a lot of trouble.
Would love to get your view on CBD. I’m Gleason 7 with only one 4 core, diagnosed in June this year, I started Keto in March last year and removed dairy totally from my diet soon after my cancer diagnosis and started CBD more or less the same time. My aim was to shrink the prostate so I could get Bracchie more effectively without a TERP before hand, because I’m not keen on a Prostatectomy. I was told because of the shape of my Prostate their was a risk of not being able to pee at all if I just had the Bracchie. Bottom line is my PSA halved from just less than 2 to just less than 1 in 2 months to 3 months. At this stage I’m not going to be doing anything but Active Surveillance/ genetic tests/ other non invasive scans while the PSA is under 1. Thoughts?
Peter, I will add the CBD question to our list for future videos. I am not sure if Dr. Scholz would speak on it since there have not been any phase III clinical trials on it yet, but they may be coming in the near future. We have a free helpline with a patient advocate who is trained to answer patients' questions if you would like to contact us about your case. I think he would need more information. You can find out contact information here: www.pcri.org/helpline
@@kennytraylor6798 Hi Kenny, still thinking of the Active Surveillance route, in that regard I am doing a PSMA PET scan in January just to check again for spread and then if that’s clear am going to get my genes checked with Prolaris
I am a youthful and healthy 74 and quite active sexually. 3 + 3 now but if I go 3 + 4 then i have to make some decisions. I would like to hear dr. Scholz speak about men mid 70s continuing with surveillance on 3 + 4. . I'm kind of trying to educate myself now in the event my next biopsy Is 3 + 4 .
I am 71 years old , diabetic, recently diagnosed with Ca prostate , gleason 3+4=7. PSMA pet scan , suggestive of extracapsular extension . Always my PSA 2-3 ng/ ml . Stage T3a . What is my best option for treatment?.
I got a score Gleason 3+4 and PSA of 1.75. My Urologist recommended two options surgery to remove the prostate and External Beam Radiation. However he still sent me for PSMA PET/CT Scan. I’m 68 years old very healthy and no maintenance medications. No blood pressure issues and diabetes. Do you think surgery is the right path for me. That’s it what I’m heading my decision because I still need a gel pad inserted between the rectum and prostate. However in 2 months time I still need to undergo a procedure for surveillance in my right ureter & kidney for low grade cancer. Hence I’m thinking of surgery because it will only be one procedure. However if I go with EBRT the Gel pad will still be done but it can be done same time as my surveillance procedure. Heading in EBRT I need to undergo 5-6 weeks of this procedure and if it recurs again in several years it’s a harder process for surgery. Do you think in my case having surgery is the right option for me.
Here Dr Scholz notes “5-10%” of Prostate Cancers don’t produce PSMA…and suggests if you don’t find cancer via the new and PSMA PET CT Scan in the face of a rising PSA (recurrence?) to try the somewhat older scans (Aximum, etc. ). I’d like to hear particularities on which Prostate cancers don’t produce PMSA. It seems an increasingly important topic.
My Gleason score is 3+4 with 10% grade 4, yet my PSA 3 moths ago was 16.4 and this week was 14.6. I have had a PET scan , MRI and 12 point biopsy. I have no symptoms of prostetitis. Why is my PSA so high?
Hello, We have a free helpline staffed by patient advocates who may be able to provide you with information pertaining to your case. You can find our contact information at pcri.org/helpline.
Brilliant! This 3+4 question is on my mind a lot as i am 3+3 and wondering what happens if it goes up. Thank you for such precise questions and answers.
This one is so relavent to me (3+4 5%) Thank you!🙏
Size of prostate and PSA was so informative. This answers my families big question about no detectable cancer with PSA above 4.
My last PSA was 4.65, biopsy results showed 2 needle cores with 3+3 and 15% total tissue, and 1 needle core with 3+4 at 15% total tissue. All 3 cores from the left side. The urologist said I could do active surveillance, radiation or surgery. Essentially just your standard 3 options. He didn’t pin down a recommendation. I got a CT scan and a bone scan which all indicated no spread. I saw a radiation oncologist who said I would be a good candidate for SBRT. I would really appreciate Dr Sholz input on this. But I am heavily leaning towards the SBRT.
Great questions Alex!
Very informative information from Dr Scholz as well!
I am confused about the PSMA. If it detects cancers so accurately , in the prostate as well as beyond, why are biopsies still necessary?
This is an excellent question, but one that few will address. Nobody wants to take pathologists "out of the loop", in my opinion. The "system" is set up to do things a certain way, and there is a lot of resistance to change.
Your point is an excellent one, and I've brought it up often, with no response....crickets.
@@Freedom24560 because you will still need to do a biopsy if it lights up to score the grade of cancer. PSMA is used to detect spread.
Doctor Scholz has great taste in ties.
Prostatectomy done a month back. Removed prostate gland is Gleason 3+4. Hormone therapy started ten days back. What is your view on the line of treatment, Sir?
Thanks for your great knowledge 🇨🇮
Thank you and bless you both.
Age 66, for 5 years the PSA was between 3-4, prostate volume 60-80cc, beginning of 2021 the PSA rose to 7, MRI showed cancer, 15th of October the prostate gland was removed, Gleason score 3 (70%)+4(30%), 10 weeks after surgery the PSA is now 0.02.
If you have a large prostate and a resonably high PSA, you can't exclude cancer!
Independent of the prostate size, if cancer can't be detected with the finger of the doctor, take an MRI ! Can save you a lot of trouble.
These videos are very helpful
Would love to get your view on CBD. I’m Gleason 7 with only one 4 core, diagnosed in June this year, I started Keto in March last year and removed dairy totally from my diet soon after my cancer diagnosis and started CBD more or less the same time. My aim was to shrink the prostate so I could get Bracchie more effectively without a TERP before hand, because I’m not keen on a Prostatectomy. I was told because of the shape of my Prostate their was a risk of not being able to pee at all if I just had the Bracchie. Bottom line is my PSA halved from just less than 2 to just less than 1 in 2 months to 3 months. At this stage I’m not going to be doing anything but Active Surveillance/ genetic tests/ other non invasive scans while the PSA is under 1. Thoughts?
Peter,
I will add the CBD question to our list for future videos. I am not sure if Dr. Scholz would speak on it since there have not been any phase III clinical trials on it yet, but they may be coming in the near future.
We have a free helpline with a patient advocate who is trained to answer patients' questions if you would like to contact us about your case. I think he would need more information. You can find out contact information here: www.pcri.org/helpline
Hi Peter did you do a treatment yet or still AS ?
@@kennytraylor6798 Hi Kenny, still thinking of the Active Surveillance route, in that regard I am doing a PSMA PET scan in January just to check again for spread and then if that’s clear am going to get my genes checked with Prolaris
@@Peter-qj6cx great move on the PSMA PET scan. Where are you getting that at ?
@@kennytraylor6798 I’m in South Africa so had it done on Thursday here, still have not had visibility of the report so hope to get Monday
I am a youthful and healthy 74 and quite active sexually.
3 + 3 now but if I go 3 + 4 then i have to make some decisions.
I would like to hear dr. Scholz speak about men mid 70s continuing with surveillance on 3 + 4. . I'm kind of trying to educate myself now in the event my next biopsy
Is 3 + 4 .
Very useful..thanks 👍
I am 71 years old , diabetic, recently diagnosed with Ca prostate , gleason 3+4=7. PSMA pet scan , suggestive of extracapsular extension . Always my PSA 2-3 ng/ ml . Stage T3a . What is my best option for treatment?.
I got a score Gleason 3+4 and PSA of 1.75. My Urologist recommended two options surgery to remove the prostate and External Beam Radiation. However he still sent me for PSMA PET/CT Scan. I’m 68 years old very healthy and no maintenance medications. No blood pressure issues and diabetes. Do you think surgery is the right path for me. That’s it what I’m heading my decision because I still need a gel pad inserted between the rectum and prostate.
However in 2 months time I still need to undergo a procedure for surveillance in my right ureter & kidney for low grade cancer. Hence I’m thinking of surgery because it will only be one procedure.
However if I go with EBRT the Gel pad will still be done but it can be done same time as my surveillance procedure. Heading in EBRT I need to undergo 5-6 weeks of this procedure and if it recurs again in several years it’s a harder process for surgery. Do you think in my case having surgery is the right option for me.
Here Dr Scholz notes “5-10%” of Prostate Cancers don’t produce PSMA…and suggests if you don’t find cancer via the new and PSMA PET CT Scan in the face of a rising PSA (recurrence?) to try the somewhat older scans (Aximum, etc. ).
I’d like to hear particularities on which Prostate cancers don’t produce PMSA. It seems an increasingly important topic.
You mentioned Doppler as a method of diagnosis. I've already had an mpMRI so would it still be useful to have the Doppler?
My Gleason score is 3+4 with 10% grade 4, yet my PSA 3 moths ago was 16.4 and this week was 14.6. I have had a PET scan , MRI and 12 point biopsy. I have no symptoms of prostetitis. Why is my PSA so high?
You say radiation is much safer now. Does that includ external beam, or is brachy still the safer option? Thank you.
David,
I will add this to our list of questions for the next round of videos.
@@ThePCRI Thank you.
Yes, I’d be interested too regarding EBRT (IMRT/IGRT).
@David Welburn - Did U get EBRT?
For those interested in EBRT/brachytherapy safety - czcams.com/video/WDvk0_VjjFo/video.html
After surgery in jan my husband s PSA is 138 now rising from 9 at the time of surgery now advised radiation need advise
Hello,
We have a free helpline staffed by patient advocates who may be able to provide you with information pertaining to your case. You can find our contact information at pcri.org/helpline.