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- Simone & George are reacting to Rocky II for the first time! Canadians React!
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Finally after 300 years, they continued watching ROCKY
my thoughts exactly. 🙂
I think this was recorded a while ago, because of the mentioning of merch, which they had for a while.
For real!
I love their reactions but hate how they handle sequels. I mean they watched IT: Part One ten months ago and still hasn't reacted to the second part. Seriously who watches half of a movie and wait over 10 months to watch the rest? It makes no sense.
@@Radwar99 agree agree agree.
Love the scene between Apollo and his trainer Duke warning him that Rocky is dangerous. Great lines in that scene alone "Man I won but I didn't beat him" "I saw you beat that man like I never saw any man get beat before, and the man kept coming after you" "We don't need that kind of man in our life". Excellent writing.
A lot of us are lucky enough to have a Duke in our lives, who can ask you "honest?" before telling you something that will hurt, but will better you as a person.
"Man I won but I didn't beat him"
I think that's the best line in the movie. I mean, Adrian telling Rocky to "Win!" is great too but the other one is really what drives Apollo.
Watch the next 2 movies!
Duke is my favorite smaller character in the movies. He’s always the voice of reason. And he shows up in most of the franchise, even if briefly. He was also the guy that saw Rocky “means business” in the first one.
George commenting on Apollo's mail saying "I see the comments section hasn't changed in like 50 years almost made me choke". That was so funny.
Scammers!! Beware! Let's report them!
I love how, the whole time Rocky was dealing with Adrian being in a coma, Mickey was right by his side. Not pushing him to train or anything. Just being there to support him. Love Mick.
Holy shit they have to watch all the rest...or at least Rocky 3. Maybe they didn't enjoy the first two as much as it seemed like they did....
As I get older I realize that rockys “ strategy” of not insulting or arguing with Apollo Pre match was simply a reflection of his deep and genuine admiration for a superior athlete
"The perfect fighter." - Rocky in Creed 1
Apollo also admitting to Rocky in the hospital that he gave his best when they were alone mustve made Rocky realize that Apollo is only putting up a show and is a good guy too.
Rocky is such a strong franchise. Of the 9 films (including the Creed films) I honestly only rate V as particularly weak - and even that is worth watching. Rocky is just such a great character.
Rocky V is better than most people give it credit for. I respect the hell out of it for showing what boxing does the Rocky's state of being after all the fights. It's antagonist makes sense I'm considering of the world of professional fighting and how the business of it isn't squeaky clean. His family life makes sense for how it is and it carries been over a bit in the next movie so if people skip it, it seems like it comes out of nowhere.
Trying not to get to spoilery but it's better than most people give credit.
The movies aren't about boxing. 5 is a bit more about boxing, but it's mostly about rock and his son.
@@jessecortez9449most reaction channels I've seen actually enjoy V.
I always felt like the ending of that movie wasn’t anything “triumphant” like they seem to suggest it is. But no spoilers
Five is still fun though. Bad, yes, but fun...
VHS was just starting to gain traction in the home market when this was released. Within a few years video rental stores would be everywhere and the technology would be accessible to most consumers. Prior to VHS, successful films were often re-released in theaters several times after their original run. Also, second-run theaters were much more prevalent.
Yeah I remember having a second run theater near me growing up. $1.25
@@mathewdebol923 First runs were under $1.25 when this movie came out. (I was paying $3.50 in the mid to late 90's)
ahh the 80's - VHS vs Betamax vs Laserdisc. I remember having a birthday party and my parents going to the video store and renting a laserdisc player along with a movie (Krull or The Dark Crystal or something like that).
VCRs weren't common until the late 80s. A lot of video stores also rented whole VCRs. Partly because they were very expencive and partly because the culture was set up for going out to a movie and people had no habit of watching stuff at home. People had real physical hobbies and TV shows certainly weren't good enough to justify recording or binge watching. There were only 3-4 channels anyway so the schedule wasn't a big problem.
VHS tapes being released for direct sale to consumers didn't really get going until about 1990. I remember Batman being the first tape that got mass advertising and it was sold at £10.99. This was about a year after it was at the cinema, 6 months after it came out to rent. Before that if you wanted to buy a newish movie on VHS it cost £60 as they were priced for sale to rental stores who could easily recoup the cost by renting it out many times.
No, no, no, young lady. We went to the movies ALL THE TIME back then and saw movies we loved several times during their initial run and re-releases. It was beautiful. Movies were special and lived in memory, not databases. Movie culture was an activity, not just a click or a swipe. 👴🏼
So true!
Movie culture was also an adventure. We practically had to dedicate our time to staying in line to get a ticket. Or even have to drive to different theaters, if a certain movie was sold out.
Simone concern about the chicken getting hurt is adorable.LOL😂 "Please don't punch the chicken"
Don't worry...it's not like it got choked. 😆😂
@@brianvalencia7717 I knew someone was going to...
That would have been so out of charachter for Rocky.
Imagine him finally catching the chicken and start punching it in anger...
Eye of the Tiger is actually used in Rocky 3. Can't wait for that one in the future! and I don't think I'll eat hot dogs for a while thanks Simone 🤣
IV also right?
@@ukiyoideas2215 Hearts on Fire is the song in Rocky 4
Do you have an predictions for the sequel?
Sequel? Pain.... and Eye of the Tiger.
(spoiler alert)
spoiler much mate geez
Simone: Please don't punch a chicken 😂😂😂
Eye of the Tiger was written for Rocky 3. After watching the first 2 movies, Eye of the Tiger was penned following Rockys' carrer. Comming up, going the distance (first movie) and then sliding back into the streets only to go to the top in the end (second movie)
You're the Best from Karate Kid was considered for the Rocky 3 montage.
Think they wanted Another One Bites The Dust by Queen but couldnt afford the rights
rocky 4 Burning heart Survivor....was my favorite.....
Hey guys, just wanted to drop a little triva in for you. The baby in the movie is actually Sylvester Stallone's oldest son Sergeoah. Not many people know about him. He is still alive but he is severely autistic and very rarely seen in public. I think its only like 1 or 2 pictures of him online. Sylvester Stallone's other son Sage has passed away but he shows up later in Rocky 5.
Actually Sage is the oldest son
@@averysteffen1732 yes, your right. I'm got them mixed up. Thank you. 😊
You name your kid Sergeoah he has to be autistic.
The turtles, (Cuff & Link) were Slys actual pets and are still alive, it's easy to find a picture of him with them from as recently as 2019.
No they weren't. They were bought from a pet store for the movie and returned after the movie wrapped. The store owner still had them when the Creed 2 started shooting which is where the 2019 photo comes from
13:15 You just caught what many people miss.
Paulie's character shows us what Rocky could have been ....they come from the same time and the same streets and pervasive lack of opportunity and low education level etc etc etc.
I think it highlights that there is something special inside of Rocky.... a virtue or value inside of him that makes the difference. And I think Adrian's character has it as well. What both of them needed to blossom was each other....the support they give each other and having faith in each other.
Their love story spans beyond just being in love.... it is instrumental in both of them transcending where they were without each other.
This story is very realistic relative to other films of the time but its also far more deep and multilayered than people might think .....possibly distracted from its depth due to the NYC street talking patterns etc
Don't skip any of the movies, watch it up to the Creed Franchise
@@MS-ro9dm Sly was nominated for best supporting actor for Creed I, and it does a good job showing where Rocky would be that many years after. But for sure, they're increasingly less Rocky movies.
100 percent disagree.
@@MS-ro9dm you're wrong, it absolutely is a continuation. the entire plot of Creed II is built off of Rocky IV. we even get a resolution to Rocky as a character, expanding on what we happened in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa. and Adonis as a character couldn't exist without Apollo. they're Adonis's movies, not Rocky's, but they're still Rocky movies at their core, they're continuing the legacy of the same franchise.
@@MS-ro9dm they do have a different feel because it's about a different character, but i think that analogy is taking it too far. the Creed movies follow the same basic format and cover similar story beats, it's not that drastic of a change from Rocky.
"Butkus" is named after a famous American football player whose full name (Dick Butkus) is even more giggle-inducing. He also did some acting in both films (mostly cameos as himself) and television.
are you sure it's not Bupkis? It is an old term
"Mongo only pawn in game of life."-Mongo(Dick Butkus)"Blazing Saddles."
@@davidstone9624 Stallone himself has referred to the dog as "Butkus". I'll admit that I'm assuming it was named after the football player, but I can't think of any other reason to name a dog that.
@@les4767 *Alex Karras. 🧐
FWIW, I thought that it was Butkus in the tv show Webster for years (also Karras). 😄
@@Harv72b Damn...I'm always confusing those two guys....Butkus was always doing commercials with Bubba Smith, right?
George says, "Who's tougher, who can endure a bit more." That's Rocky's entire story.
Exactly. Rocky IV showcases his indomitable will to endure more than the the other guy in epic 80’s fashion (and helps answer Simone’s question about how much force is in a punch). Please continue the Rocky reactions - you are a great duo in the reaction space.
Spoiler-
"It's not about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can GET hit..and keep moving forward. How much you can TAKE..and keep moving forward. THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE!"-Rocky-"Rocky Balboa"
The condominium joke is epic 😅
Rocky II was for a long time my favorite film EVER. I watched this movie over 264 times, 6 of those times in a movie theater. It changed my life the first time I saw it. It made me believe that you can do anything if you really want it and believe in yourself. Great little film !
I mean even Paulie's cool move of holding the rope's so Adrian can go into the ring to be with Rocky showed his good side.
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"Yo Adrian, I DID IT~~~~~"
A classic moment in cinema history.
Punching power is measured in PSI. While it differs in weight class, a heavyweight can hit anywhere from 1200-1700 PSI per punch.
A normal person usually throws a punch at around 150 PSI (give or take), so there’s a huge difference.
1700 PSI is about the same force as a pretty solid pressure washer. So it would be like taking a pressure washer blast to the face multiple times.
Which PSI will come into play later in this series but don’t want to spoil anything for you guys.
Some figures in SI Units: Heavyweights hit with a speed of about 10 m/s, Featherweights hit with up to 16 m/s. Heavyweights reach a punching powers up to 5500 Newton.
I pity the fool
I've seen the Rocky movies so many times that I actually see the good in Paulie. He's a drunk and a degenerate, but he always sticks up for Rocky. He yelled at Adrian but only because he was concerned that Rocky's head wasn't in the game and was going to get hurt. Then when Adrian went down he genuinely seemed concerned and tried to catch her. And when he's running his mouth in the hospital, he's still there by her side, he's still bringing her flowers. He's still got some things to settle with Rocky in 3, but by part 4 and 5, he's basically ready to take a bullet for Rocky. Think of him as someone who wants to show affection but doesn't know how.
Scammers, it is obvious this is not the real CineBinge! Lets report them!!
I love how this movie got partly made because people were disappointed that Rocky lost in the first one, so in a sense, the hate mail Apollo gets is representative of the viewers.
I can't blame them Rocky II is great. The story is beautiful, and we get to see Rocky and Apollo fight as equals. In the first movie, Apollo didn't take the fight seriously, but in this one, he trains as hard as Rocky, and it's great to see these two exceptional athletes give their all in a fight.
Also, yeah, Rocky really likes taking hits; I know that's like his life philosophy that it doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but that you get up again, but still, my man, learn how to block lol.
Rocky had a unique training experience. Rocky loves to block punches. He uses his forehead!
To be fair, watch Ward vs Gatti 1 and tell me how much defense there is there. Some guys just take hits.
The fact that ya'll think Gazzo was trying to scam Rocky with condominiums is hilarious, despite the fact he has always supported and helped Rocky. Investing in condos was not and still not a scam. It actually would have helped Rocky make income, except he just wanted to splurge and spend his money.
Back in the 70s, a lot of theatre movies eventually ended up on network TV in a chopped down format, say, as a "Friday Night Movie of the Week." So, you world have a chance to see a movie again, kinda.
Dick Butkus was a well known middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears back in the day. He was so fierce, he was feared by opposing teams. The dog was named after this football player.
24:48 I've seen this movie dozens of times and never before noticed that that kid face-plants and another kid falls over him
The introduction was there to remind the people who saw Rocky what happened and there to show people who didn't see Rocky what happened. Not only could they not depend on VHS for this, but they also couldn't depend on cable television to show the original. It was too soon for Rocky to be on rotation on standard cable channels and not everyone subscribed to pay-television, like HBO and ShowTime. Back then, they needed to include an introduction or some other storytelling trope to fill audiences in on the first movie or risk losing a sizable portion of their potential audience.
There’s some interesting interviews with Sly about the boxing scenes and how they’re not like real boxing matches, and he compares it with stage acting, where everything is exaggerated (because the audience at the back has to see it), so when they did the boxing scenes they intentionally didn’t try to be too realistic.
Did they change it for this? It seemed better in the first movie.
29:00 There is a story about when George Foreman fought Ali. George was completely giving it to him. Getting all the hits. After a while Ali asks him "is that all you got?" in which George replied "yep" and then Ali went to town on him until he won the fight.
Adrienne realized they had hospital bills to pay and that's why she wanted Rocky to fight again.
Best answer I've heard on her sudden decision to let him fight again.
and the newborn son needs a better life than what they had, which hits home with her in a real way...
Private school and a college education.
That, and she knew he would be happy. 😀 Isn't it nice when things work out for everyone?
That, and the hairdresser's bill for the baby.
"I won, but I didn't beat him!" That's what a true champion would say. Carl Weathers is awesome in this series.
Also, someone needs to share this with Sylvester Stallone. These are the reactions filmmakers aim for!
"Hey look, hotdogs! " 🤣
Thak you for that! I IRL laghed till hurt.
It's always so strange watching the boxing in these films. Just taking turns to stand there and get punched repeatedly in the head without any attempts to block or move
We had VHS, but tapes were around $50-80 dollars. They didn’t start coming down to $20-30 until mid 80s. But many of us also had cable so we could watch movies multiple times during the month they were on.
I thought they said Rocky earned $150,000 from the first fight.
They did.
37,000 was what he cleared, meaning after taxes and paying the guys who were in his corner, he was left with 37,000
I'm 40 yrs old and I still cried at the end
Eye of the Tiger is a training montage song from Rocky III. I guess you'll need to watch that one! Mr. T. is great in it!
The ironic thing is Creed was completely right. Rocky was technically lucky in the first movie. He didn't win, after all, and Creed treated the whole thing like a show. Now, he's serious.
VHS has been around a REALLY long time. However VHS rentals really didn't get started until the early 80s. For reference, the first movie my family rented was Ghostbusters.
Haha. When Apollo’s reading his fan mail and George says. I see the comment section hasn’t changed:)
So happy about this! I've been hoping you both would react to Rocky II for awhile. The amount of empathy and understanding that the two of you had for the characters and story in the first made me smile so I was eager to see this movie have its moment.
Paulie is generally a terrible person, but he does get some redeeming moments as the movies go on.
As for why Rocky doesn't cover his face, beyond poor technique, is a bit of a combination of things...there's some of the "Berserker theory" in there to be sure, but it's mostly that A) they don't want to cover the actors' faces, and B) they have to make the fight exciting...IRL boxing matches, especially heavyweight fights, don't have nearly as many punches thrown as you see in movies, it's mostly just circling each other slowly looking for openings, or tying each other up by basically bear-hugging the other guy. It's rare to see a heavyweight fight with 50+ punches thrown in a single round. The only IRL fight I can think of (off the top of my head, at least) that comes close to a Rocky movie was the Hagler vs Hearns fight in 1985, but that wasn't a heavyweight fight, it was for the middleweight championship, and it only lasted 3 rounds not 15.
The "Beserker theory" is pretty much his thing. We get a little glimpse of it in the first fight he's shown in "Rocky"
Gotta get smacked around before he gets his head straight. As the film series progresses, it becomes more a part of his character. (III & IV)
Side note: God, I hope these two watch
"Cinderella Man" someday.
It's just a shame Paulie's best moment was cut out of RB.
He really only gets anything remotely resembling humanity in RB, and even that's sketchy. But given his actions at the start of V (yeah, I mean the film itself is a bin fire, but sadly it does still exist in the Rocky universe), after all his treatment of Adrian prior, he was never going to be likeable.
There was the Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila. Both fights had a lot of exchanges.
But I wanna Time Machine so I can have Smokin Joe in a cage fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
And you can hit harder if your hands start at shoulder height, than if they start above or below it. Plus, they wanted to base the movie on a fight between Rocky Marciano and Muhammed Ali, and the character's styles reflect that
VCR's VHS wasn't really common until 1984 in most households. Hence some movies had 'flashbacks' cause there was no way to see the movie since a few years back in theaters.
"Where is Rockys son ?" "He's an accountant ha ha"......soooooooo accurate, though you need to get through 3 more movies to get to that point pmsl.
18:20 "please don't punch a chicken!" -simone
OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i think the trope is that there are some fighters that are well-rounded and highly skilled in the art and technique of boxing, and there are some fighters that are brawlers or sluggers that rely mostly on power punches rather than defense or technique (they dont usually have long careers i would assume)
The Rocky movies were a love story. A man facing opposition and never giving up because he has a wife he loves. When he gets off balance she brings him back.
Scammers!!!!!!!
Remember *(Back to the future)* was the same way. A sequel wasn't planned. But they started part 2 with the ending scene of part 1. & at the end It told you part 3 would be in theaters in the summer of 1990
31:00 I'm watching this video for the second/third maybe fourth or fifth time, because Simone was saying how much she was surprised and how much she liked Stallone and etc.. etc..
But all of your conversation/questions here, are going to be answered if you watch Rocky IV..
WATCH ROCKY III!!!
WATCH ROCKY IV!!!
We are waiting all this time.
(Thanks guys. I love both of you)
fun fact about the turtles: Sylvester Stallone still has them.
Oops, I should have read down to your comment before posting the same info👍😖😏
Great job as always guys! Two things: Rocky III is masterful and definitely worth your time. Mr. T is perfect in a role that’s kind of a precursor to the real life Mike Tyson. Hope you get to it sooner rather than later. 😜 Secondly, while the “bezerker theory” is kind of true for Rocky’s character, Stallone added what in boxing terms is called the “rope-a-dope” to this movie. Muhammed Ali coined the phrase when he beat George Foreman in the “Rumble in the Jungle”: make the bigger, stronger fighter punch himself out and then attack at the end. This is why Rocky gets up at the end and Apollo falls. He had just a little more stamina than the champ.
Simone's concern that they were going to punch the chicken makes this for me. Hahaha
Well actually, we had this thing called "television", and movies would show up on that a few year later. The TV premier of a major hit movie would be a big deal prime-time event, and everyone would watch it. Rocky was first shown on TV in February, 1979, a few months before Rocky 2 came out, and the Sunday-night broadcast captured a massive 52-share to dominate the ratings.
One older movie that I think you guys should absolutely check out and one that is surprisingly unknown today is "Serpico" from 1973. I won't spoil who's in it, but I think you'd love it. Based on true story too!
Paulie is a dick, but he's not a completely bad person. He means well when he confronts Adrian, because he wants Rocky to do well, and he can tell he isn't in it because Adrian isn't on his side. He goes about it in a toxic way for sure however. He's sort of the catalyst for a lot of things, bad and good. When he says "he can't do this watching business" it is literally him saying he feels helpless, and it's killing him. Some people express their emotions differently, and Paulie is of a very old school in that regard. If he was completely terrible, I doubt neither Rocky or Adrian would have him stick around at all.
1:53 cat realizing its on camera
I miss the days when you'd see a movie trailer once.. maybe twice.. & it was always a surprise as to what was being released, so nothing was ever spoiled.
Such a weird clinical take to think Adrian’s thought process is “if he goes blind he won’t be able to get a manual labour job”.
Surely it’s just ‘I don’t want to see the person I love, lose something that’s so fundamental to himself, and the human experience.’
Betamax, a videocassette format proprietary to the Sony company, was first marketed in 1975 and took an early lead in the format war, but by 1980 or so was largely eclipsed by VHS. You might find some old movies or TV shows with jokes about Betamax, often simply called "Beta".
Dick Butkus was a famous football player-turned-actor during the 70s.
Still remember that section of the video store. Nobody I knew of had a BetaMax player growing up. And one day, they were just gone.
@@richardrobbins387 I have an uncle who has always been pretty hip to acquiring new technologies and he had one really early on but i don't recall anyone else with one. If I remember correctly though, either VHS or another company developed an adapter so they could be played on VHS machines. It was kind of like putting a cassette into a walkman...then putting the walkman into the VHS player, lol.
Butkus (Sly’s dog in real life) sadly passed away in 1981 at 12 years old, the year before Rocky III. Sly still has his 2 turtles Cuff & Link still ticking 45 years later.
The rocky franchise has made nearly $2 billion dollars. But it finally got Simone's approval so now it's good
VHS (short for Video Home System) was released in 1976. VHS was produced until 2008 (In Japan). The last company to make VHS equipment was Funai in Japan and they ceased production of VHS equipment in July 2016 due to shortage of components. On the cinema front here in the UK films would often play twice at the cinema there would be an initial release then a few months later some move would have another cinema run.
There's a Rocky movie for every stage of your life. The greatness of the Rocky series.
Well said.
From what I've gathered in other comments threads on the Rocky movies, actual boxing matches have way less power shots that land. But absorbing your opponent's punches is a valid strategy. Hitting somebody expends more energy than throwing a punch and missing, and most boxing matches come down to stamina. If the other guy tires themselves out beating you up, they get sloppy and less resistant to your own strikes.
Ropeadope.
Rocky Balboa is the greatest movie character of all time.
In their discussion, Simone & George inadvertently referenced "Rocky 3" and "Rocky 4".
It is obvious that they must continue in the series...though perhaps a detour around "Rocky 5"?
5 isn't that bad, not the best in the series, but still not a bad movie.
5 isn't as bad as people like to pretend it is. It's the least exciting of the series, but still a great film and it's important to Rocky's overall story.
5 is flawed plot wise and with the side kid story, but IMO I like it better than 4, which I find cartoony and nationalistic.
Ordinarily I would never post spoilers, but I need George to know Paulie eventually marries a robot.
Is it too far to mention that the robot is also trans and not former.
@@ManaBurnX This reply killed me.
Fun facts:
1. The baby is Sylvester Stallone's 2nd son, Seargeoh, who is autistic
2. The big run that he does with the kids is almost impossible as it is shot from different parts of Philadelphia. It would be longer than a marathon if you went by the visual cues.
3. Yes, there is a Rocky statue at the Philadelphia Art Museum. It's generally kept at the bottom side of the steps, but occasionally they will put it at the top.
4. Those steps are a colossal pain in the ass
5. The venue where the fight was held, The Spectrum, was a nightmarish building that was prone to leaks and water damage. When the circus would be there, it was not unheard of for an animal to escape since a lot of truck bays would rust and get stuck.
6. Almost everyone in Philadelphia knows at least one person who was an extra at a Rocky fight. It's real clout for us.
7. In the first film, because the budget was so small, the final fight was filmed from the last round to the first, so they could peel off layers of makeup and save time. So they started out looking beat to hell and ended looking fresh.
8. The young man in the full body cast is actor Paul McCrane, who is most famous for his role as Dr. Robert "Rocket" Romano on "E.R."
9. We do not say "snow cones," we say "wooder ice!"
10. Burt Young and Talia Shire had to come back to shoot the reaction shot months later (maybe the O.G. reactors?), using a rough cut of the fight sequence.
I mostly just watch these for Simone's "and welcome to" intros now
This one is such a good one. It definitely helps that Rocky wins this time, so the sequels can do stuff that's different.
i can't wait for them to watch 3 and 4, they just get better and better imo
For the record, it was roughly 1984-ish when video stores popped up on every corner. I was lucky enough to go to work for one that became a small chain and was an INCREDIBLE business to be in for a movie lover. I was in that biz for 14 years till the small chains started going under and get bought out by the big ones. Finally, nothing was left but Blockbuster. And it died too. I still miss those days.
Cable, however, exploded into homes in 1980-ish. But you only had one movie channel, HBO. And you'd have to stay up till 4 AM to watch a favorite movie sometimes.
So glad you guys are continuing watching these. The whole franchise is solid and keeps a strong narrative throughout, even into the Creed movies.
One of the best reactions to this movie was popcorn in bed. Really will done.
This is so true. I have shared that reaction with a number of people who don’t know her or Rocky 2. It was just so pure. This reaction is good too. But that particular one was gold.
A big part of the appeal of reaction videos is being able in a way to vicariously see a movie again for the first time.
The "double countout" was mainly for dramatic effect (and it was awesome. I love it every time I watch it) but in reality though, Rocky would have never been in trouble for that countout, since he actually knocked Apollo down, and then tripped afterward. There was no "knockdown contact" given to Rocky when they both fell, and the count wouldn't have went towards him at all, only Apollo
This. I always laugh too, as a lot of people (myself included when I first watched this) get caught up in the moment of the count to notice, but in terms of the rules, the count really should only apply to Apollo.
Then again, this is the same world of boxing where no official has actually called off either of these two fights on the grounds of Rocky's frankly cartoonish levels of awfulness when it comes to blocking. In the real world, he should've been told to stop after a couple of rounds, given the level of blunt force trauma he keeps WALKING into.
And, even if we ignored that fact and accepted Rocky is being counted out too, he didn't establish himself as ready to fight again before that 10 count. He was still holding the rope and had wobbly legs, so it would be a draw.
You two are the best reaction duo for me. No one tops you. I so wish you guys could put out more videos. I was on vacation for two weeks and was thrilled to come back and watch a handful of videos all at once. It was awesome. Keep up the great work!!
"What changed for her?" She had a baby, when women have babies their priorities change - her primary focus in life is now providing for her baby - therefore her husband Rocky needs to meet her new priorities too, and his fighting is now the best way for him to provide for the babies future.
Well that and she finally heard Rocky and especially Paulie. Rocky was trying to be all nice and tactful and plead with her. Paulie was loud and gruff.
Paulie has a redeeming type moment in Rocky 4
He has Lots of moments and importance as a catalyst for a lot of good more than bad throughout series. However The general consensus from all reactors seems to be eh, not enough. Or fuck Paulie. I wish wasn’t in any of these movies. It’s really fascinating how none of them seem to understand the character or the relational dynamics.
@@td811 different times... unfortunately today, complex characters such as Paulie are too often just seen as shining examples of toxic masculinity who need to be eradicated from the cinematic experience so as to not influence or offend. I think it's a major factor in modern entertainment not being as memorable or engaging as in times past; characters are not allowed to have flaws or imperfections as all humans do, they are either the hero or the villain with no room in between. There are exceptions, of course, but it doesn't seem nearly as prevalent as it once was.
@@gregmcdonald8962 This is EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching their reaction as well as several other reactions to the Rocky films. I think a huge reason a lot of reactors hate Paulie is because he's incredibly realistic to the point of being uncomfortable to watch and most people don't want to feel uncomfortable watching movies. Like, people can easily watch larger-than-life villains like Joker or Hannibal Lecter or slasher movie villains like Freddy and Jason, and even root for them to some extent, but when a character is realistically flawed and very unlikable like Paulie, it's way too close to the vest so they're like "go away, I hate you!" LOL And they'll ignore the good dialogue and great acting and dismiss the character as irrelevant. Yeah, this is something noticeably different in modern movies where every character has to be sympathetic to some extent or have some sad backstory to explain why they're the way they are.
@@drlee2 Excellent points, you expounded on my thoughts perfectly.
Please watch the STAR TREK movies.
Usually, you had to wait between 6 months to a year for a movie to reach VHS .
VHS became very popular in my town in India around 1984. I was in school then. It was never brought to my house and I never watched it until I came to the US around 2000 but my friends would hire the VHS player and 4 tapes for a day and binge watch movies. The rent was very cheap especially with the idea that many people could watch 4 movies from the comfort of their home - rewind and watch songs and dances again and again! I am so old that i have used gramophone, vacuum radios, transistors, cassette player, 2-in-1, Walkman, CD player, DVD player, MP3 player, FM radio, ......... in one stupid life. hoohhhh ..... Future Shock by Alvin Toffler comes to mind.
Man I hope you do one rocky movie per week so we can get Creed soon!
Ok, Simone was a little precognitive in this one.
As for the fighting, it is a combination of Berserker & not having a realistic style of filming fighting. The Creed movie’s definitely fix the fights to where they look more real.
'Movies' not 'movie's'. The fight at the end of Rocky 3 is pretty damn good. Rocky's main problem is his persistence in using his face to block punches.
The eye of the tiger song is in the third Rocky film released in the same year as the song was made and first blood
On VHS, the 1989 Batman was the first movie to be made available to buy on VHS within 6 months of its theater release.
Rocky III and IV is worth a watch definitely! Skip the 5!!! But then Balboa (6th is very good again), and from there all the Creed movies are also worth the watch! I have not seen the latest Creed (2023).
I never cared for part IV, but I've always felt V was underrated
Rocky made $150,000 for the first fight. It's actually quoted in the movie dialogue somewhere.
@2:30 I remember schools and libraries having these MASSIVE VHS tapes in the late 70's. Then you started to see them in private homes in the 80's??? Best recollection I have. Way to make me feel ancient Simone!!
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This forever will be a tearjerker for me. One of the most beautiful scenes in cinema history.
The dog Butkus was named after Dick Butkus. Dick Butkus was one of the Meanest & Toughest Football Players of All Time. He played in the NFL from 1965 to 1973.
George called it about why they showed the end of the first film. People didn't necessarily have the VHS tape or benefit of calling up a movie on the internet. In this way, they were reminded how the first one concluded.
Rocky fact: The boxer that Rocky was sparring with at Mickey's gym is a real professional boxer name Roberto Duran aka "Manos de Piedras" translation "Hands of Stones".
VHS took a few years to take off, with original units over $1K when a nice compact car still cost $5k new. By the 1980’s they took off and the big thing was picking up a video at Block Busters to watch over the weekend. But that was at least 6 months after theater release.
In rough answer to your question, yeah, as George says, VHS was invented in 1976, but few people had them then, and films took a lot longer to be released. In fact, the majors were wary of the format, as it would mean less revenue in cinema rereleases. We got our first VCR in 1981, and, coincidentally, Rocky II was the first film we rented!
Fun Fact 1: In a martial arts class I took, getting hit in the face was called a "Rocky Block"
Fun Fact 2: Lipton did a series of commercials using claymation versions of celebrities, and Stallone actually did the voice for the one based off of Rocky.
And now: some bad poetry for Simone (be careful what you wish for!)
Her smile is illuminatious
Her reactions can be bodacious
Her eyes wide as she yells "What the🤬?!"
(George had to bleep that last word out)
*Disclaimer: I know "illumatious" isn't a word🙂
It tickles me to see you young folks watch these movies. I was a sophomore in high school at this time and My football coach played Rockys' theme song before EVERY game and it FIRED us up. We rode that to a State Championship, good times good times... Love the Rocky movies, I am 62 now and have see EVERY Rocky movie. LOVE IT!!!
My favorite scene is Duke telling Apoll olet it go “ HE KEPT COMING AFTER YOU “ 15:21
I am so happy you got to this. Hoping you do the entire Rocky series!