3 1/2 years with a Power Wagon! EVERYTHING THAT WENT WRONG!
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Today we talk about everything that has gone wrong with the power wagon since buying it in 2019. Now hear me out... THIS IS AN AWESOME TRUCK.
The positives faaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr outweight the negatives. But today we're only covering the service issues.
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All the little extra nannies things would drive me nuts.
Glad I bought a base model tradesman power wagon, no frills, just the fun needed stuff. I realize not everyone wants that! It makes me happy knowing my power wagon has no options, vinyl seats, rubber floor, nothing extra yeah I love it. All I want in a truck is AC, radio, lockers & winch.
i agree!! i bought a 2018 tradesman 2500 4x4,new,still have it,no frills just the basics,regular cab,ive never had an issue,yet,lol
I’ve bought 6 new and a couple used Dodge/Ram trucks over the past 20+ years. I don’t think I’ve had as many issues COMBINED for them, as you’ve had for this one. I’m reasonably sure that, if I’d been having this many issues in that short of time, that truck would be gone if it were mine.
It’s quite evident that despite the amount of purchases you’ve done over the time spans, non have been done recently 🤷♂️ If so, since 2017’ you would have kept none after 3500 miles and be broke🤷♂️😜👍
No hate towards You, just how most buyers feel imo
@@DC-rl4rpsmoke some more….
Thanks for an honest video. Well done.
In my opinion, You either get a good one or a POS. The brand hardly matters anymore. I’ve only had my 22 for 5 months with zero problems and I hope it stays that way. As far as the truck, the interior is awesome, it’s solid and quiet, and with a Thuren leveling kit on 37s, it’s a smooth ride.
Thanks for the update Justin. It really is good to know the highs and lows. You look like you have fun driving it!
Thank you for taking the time to post all this!
I started following you after your offroad test. I think you have the best looking Ram Ive ever seen. Ive been a Ram guy for my last 2 trucks. Ive gone from shopping for a 1500 Limited or Longhorn, to now seriously considering a Power Wagon. It might take first place in my choices.
I have a 22 powerwagon. Bone stock and no problems just a few computer reflash recalls. 11k and love it.
I have a 2019 power wagon with only 38,000 miles on it but thankfully I have not had any, any of these problems. I’m so surprised that you had this many problems.
While I'm not into PowerWagons, it was a solid vehicle review. Bought an F-150 for touring/overloading as it has a heavy payload package that can handle some campers under 2800lbs. Look forward to your Bronco videos! Also really like your recovery oriented videos.
Thank you for the update.
Thanks for making these videos. They are very helpful. I discovered you after you were featured on TFL and really like how thorough you are. I’m considering a PW or a tremor but you are right. The Tremors are very expensive
I'll be putting out another video here shortly about something I've recently done with trucks....
Sounds like a great truck to me. Thanks for the update. I’m leaning more and more towards a newer power wagon when I start looking for a newer truck this summer
it really is badass!!
@@JustinKingOffroad id love a power wagon , but they,d be 250k here in aus.. so,,me being a scab.. ive allways wanted a s/duty, f250 4.2tdi.. 7 yrs ago i got one. 25k. 170ks.. 01 vintage. never any problems.. why, because they dont have a computer, all mechanical, i fitted bit bigger turbo, td06, tiny,, now has 700nm, 240hp.. tows 3.5t. 35,s. raied 3''. cab chassis, with tin top,alloy. they had some in canadia, but not us eless.. there a geman tractor engine by mwm. built in brazil fitted to silverado,s too.. watch some vids,, f100 mwm..they fit them to everything..brillant off road, super low first. 5sp.. love it.. imported some mags fom u.s. 17x9. cheaper than here..i have 4 u.s.4x4rs,, 1 is a 75 highboy, cut to swb, 351, 5sp, 4w disc, lockers.. we have crap 4x4 rules here in aus,,same as car,, basic. im in a 4x4 club, adventurers s.a.. we have registered trainers.. 300 in club..
&,,if dodge made a cab chassis,, they would be killer.. pity the 5lt diesel was bad..
I have a 2012 F-250 and haven’t had no issues after 120,000 miles.
I think I’m still going with Ford.
Thank you for making this video I very much appreciate it.
Thanks for the info on your power wagon just got a 2021 a few weeks ago
10 months on my PW so far all I had was a bad battery when delivered and they changed it out in 30 minutes. I added 35s also and found that I gained 1 mph for each 20 miles an hour. So at 80 I am actually going 84. I just keep it in the back of mind when driving. Good review.
That's great!
I have a 2019 and have had some electrical issues as well. Wouldn't trade the truck for anything else though, they are such beasts!
Thanks for posting all of the videos on your Power Wagon. Definitely a nice looking truck. I finally got my 2024 PW around two weeks ago and have been busy with modifications and breaking in the engine. Already have 37s and other stuff so far. Will be putting on the Thuren front coils, Fox 2.0 IFP shocks, Thuren front track bar, Fox steering stabilizer, Carli R2 coils, Carli rear sway bar end links, Fox 2.0 IFP shocks and Thuren rear track bar soon. Then it will be time to go offroading and have some fun. 😀
We bought a 22 power wagon and love it they are so capable!
Nice!!!
It will be interesting to see if that Bronco will hold up as long as the PW. I’ve been back and forth on getting the PW or waiting to order the 2023 Colorado ZR2. The age-old question ( Big vs Small ) lol Have a great day.
I’ve owned both. If you want/need a spacious off road capable truck and tow then get a PW.
I bought a '22 Powerwagon last July. SO FAR, I haven't had most of the "gremlins" that you've had. Uconnect reboots itself maybe once a month / once every 2 months, while I'm driving down the road. Other than that, no complaints! It's probably THE MOST SOLID feeling vehicle I've owned, so far. It also rides way smoother than I expected a 3/4 ton truck to drive/ride. I look forward to hearing more updates! :)
yeah the reason it's riding smoother is the lower overall towing capacity. you've got the same chassis, transmission, engine, axles as the 2500/3500 trucks. just look at your rear GAWR. it's something like 6000 pounds! a lot of guys put airbags on these trucks to make them capable of pulling 15,000 like the regular non-pw rams!
@@JustinKingOffroad at the moment, I'm not planning to tow or haul much. So, I'm ok with that. For now. :)
A good weight distributing hitch can also help!
I had the same issues with the 4x4 sensor, saying it was engaged on my 18 Power Wagon. I had the trackbar issues also but mine were done under warranty.
I currently have my truck with the dealership because they have to replace the Uconnect module for the 3rd time. I am also having my front locker replaced. All under warranty. Other than those issues I love my 2022 Power Wagon. I'm glad I got it before pricing got ridiculous.
I bought a used 2020 PW 36,500 miles. Only when I first bought the truck it had an issue that self resolved with the radio and Bluetooth playing at the same time. Had a chicken light go out too. I’ve put THUREN leveling coils with fox shocks and track bar with a king steering stabilizer. The stabilizer was actually blown out and the thermostat also took a crap at the same time. Rear track bar is next then gonna have to upgrade the radius arms, drag like and maybe the tie rod bar just to make sure it’s solid. Just ordered black rhino wheel armory -18mm offset. Hopefully she’ll drive like I want it some day. Now at 41,500 and it seems like the engine chokes up sometimes when coming from a stop and it has the hemi tick and a metallic rattle near the cat converter SOMETIMES, lol
I have a 2022 PW in the same color of yours and only problem I had was the antenna failed and I have just over 16,000 miles. I just put a fox stabilizer bar and the steering is 100% better and no longer the jeep truck like steering. I know I don’t need a stabilizer bar but I don’t want to spend 5,000 to 10,000 to fix that to just not to eliminate the stabilizer bar. I know this as I did it with my JKU and ran 40’s without a stabilizer bar aftermarket heavy duty parts help a lot.
Wow .. watching this was a bad idea.. I was so obsessed with this truck
it certainly has had some weird little glitches! but overall it is a great truck.
My 2019 PW (same color) has 39,000 miles on it. The only issue I’ve had is the key fob being finicky. I’m hoping I continue to have good luck with it because I absolutely love the truck and have a lot of plans for it.
You may have covered this in a previous video that I could have missed, but did you recalibrate your speedometer when you changed to the 35" tires? If so, what did you use to do that and was it difficult?
I sure did! I used alpha OBD to permanently change the computer to look for 35s.
Great review, thank you! Seriously looking at one of these as my next vehicle. Regarding the front and rear track bars, why were they not still covered under warranty if you only have 37,000 on it now?
Too much time had passed and full coverage only good for 36,000
Just before it’s 5th year, my 2018 power wagon lost its transmission. It’s still under warranty but, we’re approaching 6 months and I’m still waiting for for my truck. Waited for an initial fix that didn’t work, waited for permission from Chrysler to either replace or rebuild the transmission then, waited for parts. Now, waiting for a technician to do the work. All the other similar trucks from other makers just don’t do it for me. I’ll continue to wait.
I have the same color on my 21 Power Wagon. It does the same thing that you described with wondering all over the road. I just thought it was the 35s that I put on it. I may need to look into the track bar issue.
How many miles are on it?
Ok, for a brand new truck that sounds like a lot of issues to me. Yes, many of them were small, but it sounds like you were visiting the dealer more often than the grocery store... 😉
it only seems that way. lots of these little electrical things were done on combined trips to the dealer. so it really wasn't too terrible.
That was my reaction too. Not only a lot of issues but issues that would be very concerning and "trip stoppers" especially for someone that is not a car person. Nothing worse than a trip stopper in the middle of nowhere. This is actually very concerning to me.
Don't get me wrong now it's a great truck but it's just had some annoying crap go on with it.
Sounds like a pos.
Thanks for the update on your Power Wagon. I'm looking to purchase one, but it'll be very close to whether it fits in the garage or not (height). I've done a lot of measuring but haven't done a test drive to try it - since they are very scarce where I live. Did you have any issues at first getting yours into the garage?
Not at all. I had measured the garage to make sure it would fit though.
I bought a 2019 in March of that year. I had to replace my 12 inch screen because my GPS went crazy. And the dealer replaced my side view mirrors because they wouldn't return back to zero after putting the truck into reverse. I don't drive it much. Currently about 26k miles. I put a canopy on it and automatic running boards on it. Mine is silver and gorgeous. Debating on whether to put 35s on it.
I'm still on the 3 month trail with the At&t service. And it's only worked a couple of times. So I stopped trying and definitely won't be signing up with At&t to continue the service. Lol
Going on 2 months and still loving the truck. With the tonneau cover and even in the extreme cold weather I'm doing 14 to 15 average. So in the summer on the roads and my driving style. I'm confident I could get up to 17 average fuel economy.
And my 2016 silverado 1500 did better on fuel economy but had all kinds of electrical and mechanical issues. Always do your research and pick what you like and understand nothing will be perfect. Just prepare yourself for what you're getting into.
If you drive these patiently they do quite well on mpg!
For perspective your PW has had more issues that my 20yro 180k 1st model year Volvo that pioneered all these fancy systems on new vehicles… so yeah I feel better about my current vehicle woahs…thanks for sharing!
Valid point lol! A lot of this was combined trips to dealer. But I sure did make a few visits lol!!
as a add on, I have been looking recently for a used diesel 2500,4x4. 2019 or 2020. so many problems with the diesels. like the fuel heater falling into the number six piston at 100,000 miles, for example. they certainly don't build them like they us to. thanks
Not gonna lie, if I had to make 5-6 dealership runs for even small gremlins I would have a completely different take on the vehicle than you have haha…especially with only 37k miles!!
it was annoying for the first couple years for sure. however, this last year has been solid!
Exactly. Thats not normal at all. I was going to buy a used one now im like f that.
I received the same recalls as you, but have yet to take it in for any of them. I despise the stealership with a passion!
that hop haha, I remember driving my power wagon on I76 outside of Denver area and the hop was so bad that I was "floating" on my seat.
i never had axle hop, it just wandered all over the place when those track bars started to go.
@@JustinKingOffroad not really the axle hop, it's like the up and down vibration on certain freeway, that's what you were talking about in the video right?
No mine was floatly left to right. It was super odd.
I’ve never had that many problems in almost 18 years with my Powerwagon, but your fuel problem could be what mine was did the same thing you said once in a blue moon for a couple years finally, it wouldn’t start, and it was the harness that was plugged into the fuel pump. Prong was overheating And burnt had to replace harness plug to fuel pump
Great vid Justin, thanks for the effort! Do you do anything for rust control, if so, what undercoating do you use?
I haven't, but when I replaced the track bar I wire wheeled some light rust off the mounts and hit them with spray paint. Otherwise the underside looks decent.
@@JustinKingOffroad I'm over here in the Adirondacks and drive a 21 PW, the calcium chloride brine that covers the roads for parts of late October through mid April is tough on vehicles and i'm wondering if there isn't something people use that's better than fluid film. As for electrical gremlins, my only isssue so far that I know of is my heated steering wheel & seat is always on when I turn the truck on. I've only put 17000 miles on my vehicle as I drive my 4runner as my daily.
When I got my end of January I had the oil spray done to it to help. There is another channel on CZcams that owns a dark blue PW. He shows some things on rust prevention on these trucks. I removed the seals between the bed and cab. Which not only helps with possible rusting there from them rubbing. It got rid of the noise I had which was the bottom seal is pretty hard rubber and was squeaky noise coming into the cab. So that noise being gone is worth taking out those seals. The side ones just slide off the bed. And bottom seal is held on with 5 plastic push bottom style clips.
@John Thornton I live in Manitoba, Canada. When I remotely start my truck in cold weather it automatically turns on the drivers heated seat and the steering wheel. Nice and toasty when you get in! I think it does this around -10celcius or so. I love it, but it would be annoying if it did it all the time
@@chadfinlay4086 Thanks for that Chad, I'll check it out!
LIST of trucks I’ve owned and put over 60k miles on them
2020 Power wagon
2018 ford raptor
2016 F-350 ford diesel 6.7L
Out of the 3 I loved the PW by far my fav
BUT with constant issues back and forth to dealerships I got sick and tired of that after some many years……
I sold them and bought 2021 Tacoma TRD off road double cab 4x4 in a automatic brand new and now with almost 50k miles on it I can say this truck is the best truck I’ve owned in 27years , it’s never seen the dealership at all .I do my own oil changes it has been flawless I’m a averaging 23-24 mpg on the highway going 65-70mph I do have a slight lift on it with bigger tires I do use it for hunting as well , also I tow a 6k pound trailer with it and does just fine getting 14-15mpg’s around 60-65mph . I honestly loved the PW but now owning the 21 Tacoma I will not go back to another truck , don’t get me wrong those truck above have their positives BUT the negatives out weigh the positives by large margin . Yes I know Tacoma can’t tow 10k pound trailer but I’ve down sized everything to my needs , and as far as off road goes Tacoma gets me places that non of the trucks above I’ve owned could with ease , plus I have a peace of mind . PW is and will always be my fav full size truck though .
I am a former Toyota tech and Toyota's do have lots of issues too...Some are riddled with issues some are not....
I’ve always been ford truck guy a couple Chevys and now a quad cab and a 2019 power wagon. I have had good luck with all my pickups
I like my power wagon
Hey Justin are you still doing recovery’s, I loved watching your recovery videos.
Yes there just hasn't been much up my way. Went on one last Sunday and they got out before we got there.
Hope you're as lucky with that Ford bronco, I understand that they have had a bunch of issues.
Yikes,, I have a 2020 Chevy Trail Boss that has only required a front end alignment after replacing the tires at 21000 miles. Only changed the tires due to noise they made at highway speed. I only say this, because I was thinking about going back to Ram and purchasing a hold over 2023 Power Wagon at my local dealer, but now I am not taking the chance of hanging out at Dodge Service. I have had 4 Ram 3500 duallys, and had only a couple trips to the dealer.
Hey Justin, love your channel. I am a power wagon owner myself, and love the truck it’s a beast. I was wondering if you have heard of this issue I am having with mine - my dash light will start flickering only when it’s dark out. I have taken the truck into the dealership and they said they couldn’t get it to do it. I have videoed it and showed it to them, and they said they checked the alternator, battery and everything was ok. It’s been doing this since shortly after I bought the truck. I have been through 3 batteries on this truck within 2 1/2 years. It is a 2021, and I am on my 4th battery. The dealership has replaced it and send me on my way don’t look into the problem at all. I think the lights flickering and battery issues are connected. There has to be a short or something going on wondering if you have heard of this problem? Any advice would be appreciated, thank you.
i have not heard of that problem. but, the dash cluster is pretty easy to remove. I almost wonder if it's not plugged in all the way. Friend of mine had a pretty major wiring harness on a 2016 not clipped in all the way from the factory. Dealership found it buried waaaay up in the dash and re-seated it and all his problems went away.
Thank you for the advice. I will look into that. Keep the power wagon content coming!
All your issues are common issues in newer vehicles with all the electronics. No big deal. I have a 2019 PW. I have had the front locker replaced, the front drive shaft replaced, the winch replaced, the clock spring replaced, and I’ve had to put 6 new tires on it. I run the living crap out of this truck. All the failures have been my fault. The truck has been flawless otherwise. No other truck I’ve owned could stand this abuse. I was always a Ford guy too, but when they called the F 250 a Super Duty, I believed them, but it wasn’t true. The one I had could never could handle the extreme use that the Power Wagon has handled. This truck is an absolute beast.
I'm only about halfway through the video but you said you put bigger tires on it. Did that change your gas mileage for the better or the worst? I'm guessing you recalculated the transmission and stuff that you have to do when you put bigger tires on.
So around town it hurt a tiny bit. But on highway it helped so it's a wash. And yes I recalibrated everything.
I've replaced 2 oil pressure sensors in my 2014 6.4L hemi. Both OEM and aftermarket. Not sure why this part is having issues, I've read that some oil filters other than OEM may be the culprit spiking pressure...IDK?? Seems to be a common part issue. Easy to replace when your changing the oil. Anyone else having this issue?
Yeah if this wasn't under warranty I'd have done it myself lol!
I work for a municipality that purchases a lot of fleet vehicles every year. We had so many small to moderate issues with our Dodge fleet, (Durango & Ram) we switched over to Ford’s fleet vehicles.
very interesting! ain't gonna lie, next year i'd like to look at a used superduty. i'll be able to afford a used one lol!
Having a large fleet... Good luck with Ford's... You are going to have far more significant problems. We switched to Ford's and switched back.
Interesting, the f250 i have now had been trouble free compared to the ram.
@@JustinKingOffroad yup. Transmission and cam phasers on some . The 7.3 is ok though. The fore transits are junk. Need constant attention. Sucks because I'm a Ford guy
Hi Justin.
What muffler delete do you have? Any exhaust clips?
That is a solo performance delete pipe. I don't think i have a specific video on it but you can hear them in multiple power wagon videos.
are those feneix quad visor lights? if so how do you like them?
They indeed are, and they are fantastic!
Damn son , that’s quite a list . I guess I’m lucky , no issues at all with my 2022 power Wagon 😅
It did get a tad annoying hahaha
I have a 2021 75th Anniversary Model and have had zero issues from my truck, knock on wood haha
For the 5 years I've owned my Ford, any time I need transmission diagnosis it's a 3 week wait & I can't drive it while I am waiting for the tech to get to it. Does dodge have techs working bumper to bumper or are they all "specialized"?
I'm not sure. I haven't ever had to deal with service stuff like that on any vehicle.
@@paulfeasal6024 I have been to every Ford dealership in the Los Angeles area practically.... Transmission issues are a thing. About to chuck the idea of a truck & just get a manual transmission car....
Speaking as someone that has owned 3 jeeps ( may or may not give me any credibility lol), Chrysler has/had no idea how to do electrical. Every single one I've had, I have had to do extensive electrical work to with exception for my current 08 wrangler. I don't have to do much to it because it's got almost nothing electrical on it that I haven't already replaced lol
Love the Power Wagons 🙌
Never really looked into anything powerwagon. From the sound of things your dealership must be awesome if they were able to help you sort out the bugs on the truck
crazy to think my power wagon is 44 now and all these sensors and confuser crap would have taken it off the road. Well it had sat since 04 lol
My last Dodge was a 2001. It had lots of issues like you mentioned. I switched to Ford and rarely ever went to the dealership. Dodge hasn’t changed in 20 years…..
Those are “easy” issue when under warranty. But if those issues arise off warranty……$$$$$
I don’t know man. That sounds like a lot of issues.
I can’t lose 1 day much less 3.
Cold air induction systems don't do sheet.
After 4 years and 50,000 miles the only failure I have had on my 2019 PW is the battery.
Nice
Its a pretty truck. As a fan of dodge's. I really like the the truck.
the color alone on this truck has got me the most compliments.
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Unfortunately, typical, classic chrysler electrical nightmares
yeah i was warned about that.
If you actually had no oil pressure, your valves would tapping very loudly.
Did you calculate how many hours you spent at the dealership, on the phone with the dealership, travel to and from the dealership? Whatever the number this inexcusable for a new truck that you have used lightly for 3 years.
that would have been a great idea lol!
nice video, BUT, what engine do you have in it. all the stuff that you talk about isn't worth anything unless I know what engine is in the truck, thanks.
You serious, Clark?
Oh, 37K. Wow that's nothing. Track bars are consumables?
When you off-road them big ass trucks absolutely they are consumable.
3 yrs all i had go wrong was my flip switchblade key stopped flipping out.
Nice
The more electronics the more issues
Sounds like a lot of problems with that power wagon. You could probably get a pretty penny for it and get another power wagon for maybe very little money out of pocket now.
just nagging electrical stuff mostly. and the last calendar year has been pretty solid!
I was considering trading in my Toyota of 10 years truck for a ram, after watching this video that won’t be happening.
Chrysler is certainly known for little gremlins lol
Holysheet. Used Ram HD for sale.
If only you knew how accurate that comment was hahaha!
Sounds like you got a lemon.
Yeah I know. His truck it died York to Annette B I got new tires on it nice tires
This is actually a lot of stuff that's gone wrong.
No disagreement there!
@@JustinKingOffroad appreciate your time and honesty. I'm looking at a RAM 2500 or a Ford F-250. Both seem to be littered with issues. Took Chev and GM off the list of considerations because they seemed to be even worse.
@@blackcoffee730 I'm in a 2019 f250 now and it's been great. Pre-scam issues.
Electronics Can't live without them, Can't kill them. Always, Always purchase a Extended Warranty, expensive YES, but these vehicles are everything Electronic. You will thank me later.
There's nothing wrong with liking Fords. It's that other car company that totally SUCKS, they were always trying to strand me. I learned how to drive on a 1974 power wagon, that was a real truck.
Sounds like the assembly line workers were either having a bad day or drunk out of their mind
Sounds like you bought a lemon shouldve had the manufacturer buy it back under your states lemon law
They've really got to get to a place with all cars where you can just do the software update over your own stupid Wi-Fi at your house.
BMW has that in their 2024 models
Why did you even buy it?
to experience the "offroading super truck" for a few years.
I love the Power Wagons, but I'm sorry... That is just sh*t quality control for such an expensive truck (or any vehicle). That is a LOT of issues to deal with and so many back and forth trips to the dealer. Really makes me question reliability for RAM.
very annoying for sure
Dude, are you serious with that list , i’m sorry, but I would have to deem the make of that truck a piece of crap. How could a owner be happy?
French/Fiat reliability…
Adaptive cruise control on an off road truck is an issue for you? Get a Prius.