The Social Network: The Winklevoss Proposition (ARMIE HAMMER HD SCENE)
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- The Winklevoss twins (Armie Hammer) present Mark (Jesse Eisenberg) with an offer.
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3:42 "You would do that for me?"
I love how he feels a bit offended when they say that to him, but when he said that to the girl at the beginning, he didn't understand why she was upset
Honestly? Probably ego trip.
That's textbook narcissism baby!
She said it to him.
@@spencerwattamaniuk950exactly
After having their offer rejected, they just decided to eat Mark instead.
World would have been a much better place if they had...
😂😂😂😂 thats savage
@@tomace4898 ya that's no joke dude Myspace was so much better we didn't deserve Tom. He never put us in Facebook jail we could post music on our page, design and customize our pages, and he stayed out of politics. Not to mention Myspace didn't consume our lives it was fun but you weren't constantly checking it. I still remember when CZcams used to be fun and cool and we got away with uploading movies all the time nowadays you can't even post a comment that might be considered offensive or have "bad words" in it like we're children oh and the hid the video ratings bar.
@@rc59191That hide the dislikes on CZcams is the biggest farce ever. If a video is bad let me see, hiding it just demonstrates how weak society is
^ The dislike bar was hidden solely because CNN, MSNBC etc were getting their videos on Trump dislike bombed. They could not accept it so JewTube was pressured into removing the dislike bar. That is literally the sole reason it was removed.
"Wow, you would do that for me?"
Funny how Mark can not only see through such an obvious manipulation but also call them out on it. They didn't have to bother showing false care for him, that's for sure.
Ya they would've been more successful at convincing Mark if they simply treated him as an equal rather than pretending to be some savior. They even met Mark in their Club's bikeroom, symbolizing that Mark will never be "in" under their wing. As Winklevoss's lawyer even tells Mark later that the Winklevoss were clearly interested in the Facebook idea and would've been willing to invest as much money as needed(they understood how much it was valued even though Harvard's president clearly didn't) but Mark didn't want to be under their wing and wanted autonomy which he could get with Eduardo. This movie does a great job portraying young people with strong egos
they didn't pretend, they mentioned it as a side effect of working with them. a business relationship with social benefits. nothing manipulative about that.
It's also a callback to the opening scene when he tells Erica that if he gets into certain final clubs he will introduce her to people she wouldn't normally get to meet. Her response is the same.
Its called offering value
If this is true, Zuckerberg misunderstands the concept of mutual benefit in business
Arnie hammer has that old money voice just like the character he’s playing it’s crazy
Doesn't he have old money?
His family, anyway.
@@kingayy9267 see that’s crazy, you’re right!! Like how does money change the way you freaking sound I thought he was making a “rich” person voice but no he just comes from money and genuinely looks and sounds like it
I just know it is only one guy
@@jason854656 Exclusive schools and social life. Accents are formed with whome you associate with early in life.
It’s cuz he is old money. His parents were in finance and his g-grandma was German/polish nobility (Baroness Olga Vadimovna von Root)
God he's just thinking about Erica constantly throughout this scene
They are actually being portrayed generously. In real life they ended being sued by a secret 4th partner for a portion of their settlement and they also miscalculated the stock value by half.
Portrayed very generously. My understanding is there is virtually zero intellectual property in software. Whoever builds the audience built the product. To hell with whos "idea" it was.
"you guys look like you spend some time at the gym" (how do I know you're not going to beat me up?)
"we have to... we row crew" (you can trust us because we have too much to lose)
shit good catch
ho-ly shit
"We row crew, the most useless endeavor one can imagine".
@@oig40203LOL
2:48 The script describes that shrug as simultaneously saying "don't know" and "fuck you". He nailed it
Theres almost a distain in the fact he even asked
@@jdjd432 It's pretty much questioning [fictional] Mark's (or actually even any creator's) intention to just make something cool without any monetary motivation. "I don't know" and "because it was cool, you dullard?"
Zuck has said before and in private DMs that he wasn't really in it for the money, he just liked building cool things and didn't need profit as a reason to do so.
That shrug means "Yea why not"
He didn't sell it because he already had money. Mark Zuckerberg came from money. Now, he didn't come from the kind of money the Winklevoss twins did (their parents had hundreds of millions.) Maybe Mark's mom and dad had, say, $5 million. But $5 million is just barely enough that you (as a child) don't really care about working for money all that much.
*"Winklevii"* is such an epic passive aggressive slight
1:12 Ki Hong Lee is literally in everything
Lmao
Zuck actually pursued Programming and Psychology at Harvard. Not surprised that he could understand when were ppl trying to manipulate him. Actually his psychology game helped him much in his entrepreneurial game.
These people weren't manipulating him? Why do you fall for the most obvious baits lol. These 3 hired Mark as a part of the project, mind you ( a legal contract ) was issued. Mark led them on for 6 + weeks and left them in the dust. Zuckerberg's work is very impressive, but he completely screwed over these guys and even his best friend. You can admire someone's work whilst acknowledging how much of a c*nt he is...
Thanks for your info
And then he started to use it againt people along with Sandberg in a desperate bid to profit.
Then wtf happened with the metaverse?
@@spooneater9001 vanity project
I know it’s not one of the more sexier, eye popping films to choose from, but honestly The Social Network is a top 10-20 film of the 2010’s decade as well as being Fincher’s best, 2nd best at worst, to date. Same goes for Sorkin.
This movie is so good I’ve watched it so many times
Tarantino even said it was his 2nd favourite film of the 2010s. His 1st favourite was Toy Story 3 lol
err top 3 id say, for an otherwise v weak decade
David Fincher realized movies like : Seven, Fight club, Gone Girl and The Game.. you know
2:40 Mark revealing that he uploaded the music app he made for free shows his thinking is already somewhat aligned with Sean Parker as he also created an application that allowed people to use it for free. As a result, we see why Mark is so drawn to Sean.
Never noticed that
Which was what
@@jygb7092 Sean Parker created napster. and I don't know the app Mark created that they are mentioning in this scene.
Such a great movie.
no red flags in that first meeting with Mark.....
For real. He has nothing but contempt for these dudes and doesn't even pretend to hide it.
And now we're on Threads
1:46 is the implication here that mark realized that if they need to row crew to be in the college that they aren't as smart as him so he can manipulate them?
I've always thought the implication is that Mark realized he can manipulate them out of a weird sense of revenge, considering Erica said she was into guys who row crew. The two topics during their breakup in the opening scene is finals clubs and rowing crew, which respectively matches Wardo and the Winklevoss twins, the two parties who he betrays in the film
No they were very smart themselves, but the fact they row crew hit a sore spot for mark because his ex that just dumped him joked about guys who row crew and it hurt marks ego. He’d also be jealous bc he was looking for ways to distinguish himself and rowing crew is a good one, they were also in a very exclusive final club
I thought it was to reinforce the movie's narrative that Mark wanted to be popular and liked, and crew guys are popular
My take was that he was insulted that he can't row crew. The conversation in the beginning with erica proved that he doesn't have what other guys has, which he wishes. Now two guys who magically row crew need him. His excitement to talk to them was just out of his prior insecurity.
It's established that rowing crew is a fast ticket to being in a final club. Mark is hoping that helping these two guys will help him get into whatever final club that they're in.
2:48 love his shrug. He was different
J. Cutout. Construct.
‘You guys look like you spend time at the gym’
‘We have to’
‘Why?’
1:53 they forgot to put Armie's face on both actors
think it was deliberate
@@slothrop4751 You think? No way it was a creative choice if that's what you mean. Maybe they left it cos of time/budget and thought no-one would notice.
@@EubulusKane3259 Fincher shot the opening scene 99 times. No way this was not intentional.
@@slothrop4751 What was he trying to do then? What was the logic behind leaving Josh Pence's face as is for a single shot of a movie in which the characters are otherwise identical?
I don't really see the difference
1:43 genius, he made sure the twins weren't built because they were hired hitmen.
Programming classes don't have that many women. Hollywood I tell ya.
He's in the metaverse!!!!
After I i have all this startup experience, now I understand how this idea of exclusive platform from start was awesome.
And I understand that Mark was just too smart to create everything by himself, so why share?
Smart enough, not “too smart”.
“After I have all this start up experience, now I understand how this idea of exclusive platform from start was awesome”
Oh boy. If you had any experience with even one single moderately successful start up MAANG sphere, SMART flow start up company you’d recognize how ridiculously dumb the sentence you just typed out is
@@nicholassmieleski9710found the asshole
Aah gotta love the WinkleVi
I enjoyed this movie.
same
Me too bro
You would think this movie is "cheap" and not that hard in post processing but then they decide to cast one guy instead of real twins just because they can :D
Once they said they rowed crew mark was no longer interested I don’t think he was ever interested actually
Bro the minute they said “we row crew.”. They fucked up.
just imagine that all of this movie realy happend. even 50% of it would be crazy...
The winklevoss winklelost
winklefucked
They're on the way up and facebook is on a decline
@@minioncost3877 wait what!
@@minioncost3877 Still lost. You can't even compare their net worth.
@@inessa5923 give it a few years. Fb on a decline
Anyone saying that Winklevoss brothers tried to manipulate him, are u stupid? They simply proposed him to work with them and that's it.
They would have negotiated either a fee to pay him or a piece of the business. They did neither and then wonder why he did what he did.
@@williameasom2936 It's probably just a detail that's left out of the scene. They would have been setting themselves up for an obvious lawsuit if they didn't work out some arrangement to pay Mark for his work.
Business tards like this are all over university campuses, they all think they have a unique app and just need a "programmer" to create the whole thing for some peanuts and "exposure". They think their social awkwardness means they are clueless to business.
they probably would have gotten him into the Porcelian if he had actually helped them.
would you rather be in Porcelian or have $50 billion? 🤨
No, they wouldn't have and that's part of the point I think
Unpopular opinion......but......I really liked the twins in the movie. They were very entertaining, dynamic, driven, and, iml, respectful😅
The Winklevi
hes a real meat and potatoes kind of guy
as long as its slathered in that sweet baby raysssss
They switched back and forth with clothes and standing/sitting positions for their scenes in the first one, Armie is Cameron in the front and Josh is Taylor in the back. You can tell when they go to turn because Josh’s face isn’t edited, so it’s his real face.
Cameron and Tyler lost their website, so they ate everyone
I dont get this
@@rotyler2177 Referring to the allegations against Armie Hammer regarding cannibalism.
*their. English is hard.
0:13 writing a joke on social media in 2023 belike
Narrator: "But he was, in fact, not in."
The sandwich was symbolic because that's all the Winklevoss brothers could provide in their partnership.
At 3:37, it makes you wonder if Divya Narendra didn't rub Mark the wrong way with the "rehabilitate" comment if he would have screwed them.
@Eddie Avinashi Its one of those grey lines. There was no indication that he was planning a social network through Harvard EDU, until the twins approached him. He took their idea and expanded on it, an expansion that potentially the twins may never have allowed him to make had he worked with them. The movies pretty even-handed in their treatment of all parties involved, and the twins were more than fairly compensated for their role in the end
@Eddie Avinashi what was the difference bw ConnectU and Facebook?
I don't know how closely this aligns with how it went down irl, but based on the portrayal in this movie, I get the feeling it would have gone much better if Cameron Winkelvoss had made the offer alone. Like look at how he's making the pitch at 3:30 vs. the comments that Tyler and Divya jump in with. And in general throughout the whole scene he comes across a lot less condescending.
Always found it weird they forgot to edit a Winklevoss face at 1:52
Holy shit I never noticed that lol
I just realized that the Winklevoss Twins never had a scene with Andrew Garfield.
Yes they did, when Andrew trashed their "dating app" in the deposition room, then Tyler or Cameron said "How would you know you weren't even there"
Watch it again
Link to that scene?@@zinan2959
I’d have to say my favorite part of this movie is when Mark says “it’s Zuckin’ time” where he then proceeded to zuck all over the place.
yea i remember when i zucked in your mom. that was zucktastic
and we are still cleaning up the mess.
He frickin’ Zucked so hard in this movie.
Zuck is still trying to figure out where to store that sandwhich
Hahaha "you look like you spent some time at the gym"
Tbh I dont understand how he deduced that by simply looking at them, completely covered in warm clothes.
You don’t need to see through a person’s body to deduce they work out. Just by their sizes and figure, anyone could have made a good guess that they go to the gym.
@@anisalamov825 size? Well size has 2 components: height and "width"
Height is purely genetics so no way one can deduce that purely from height.
Width: They look pretty average to me and in the cuts where they train, you can see that they are athletic but still very slim. Thin arms, thin waist, nothing above average haha.
My father would look the same if he wore the same clothes and he doesn't work out at all.
@@adennis200 No
-clothes sizes
-height to waist ratio
-shoulder width
-healthy skin
-good posture
-deliberate movements
-neck and chin
You can tell when someone hits the gym. You don’t know if they’re cut but you know when someone looks like they have to train for sports.
@@adennis200wow you're psycho. Everything is relative so compared to Jessie Eisenberg or mark Zuckerberg the twins are clearly tall and wide (built not just fat) so it’s easy to deduce they are just a jock at an ivy (as is common). Whenever I see a tall guy or girl I just assume they’re an athlete, 9.9/10 times they are because all the students who came in through academic achievement tend to be nowhere near that level of built. The tall students that don’t workout are really skinny and nowhere near their width.
He will never not talk about the winkle voss twins
what is that thing tyler wear on his head , im trynna find it :
I once watched a 15 hour video on Python from Harvard. Does that make me a college grad yet?
yees
Like a cheetah being approached by three antelope
More like a fox prepositioned by three parasites.
@1:12 bottom part of the screen you can see the dude whose been an extra in like every movie with the glasses
This movie proves that it’s not just women who do that vocal fry thing. Every guy in this movie is talking at the back of his throat.
they had my blog
To me what they proposed doesn't sound like Facebook at all. Mark should've just made their website for Harvard hookups and then just improve on it to just make his own. I mean, it sounds like their imagination was limited.
It sounds exactly like fb lol
Yeah no it sounds exactly like Facebook 😂😂😂😂
1:53
How'd they just forget to put Hammer in here?
Lol I saw that too but I think their face transfer teche only works when he is close to the camera and not looking at an angle. That's probably why they have him wearing sunglasses in the next scene when he is at what I presume to be a distance greater than that required for this tech.
They contractually left one shot of actor Josh Pence's face in the film so that he could be credited as an actor
We row crew
Exactly
Mark in this movie is the EPITOME of scaring the hoes
LMAO
Is that the kid from the blink 182 videos in the front
did he say "I am in' to delay their launch of the idea? lollll
Cute, they had a pet indian 😂
Tom needs you
No wonder why Mark had no friends lol😂 social awkward 😂
Don't know why you are saying that he has and had a bunch of friends back then he wasn't that socially awkward. I don't even like the guy but people shouldn't make stuff up about him.
@@rc59191 he had no friends, not a bunch of friends. I don’t even like the guy but you don’t know how to read that’s the real issue
@@bspiderm I can read just fine you're the one making baseless accusations towards the guy probably out of jealousy.
>"We row crew"
>I am going to murder those guys
I miss Armie Hammer. He is innocent and needs to make a comeback.
The Lone Ranger killed any chance he had of getting another leading role and the abuse allegations double tapped the corpse.
@@AustinMichael "the abuse allegations double tapped the corpse" HAHAHAHA
@@AustinMichael
Yeah, we know how that is… “destroy first, figure out if it’s even true later”…
He was okay in The Lone Ranger.
Yo why does the teacher gotta insult you for leaving?
Because people no matter what position they have in society, are garbage no matter what.
im sorry but at 00:30 is that minho from the maze runner?
1:50 pay close attention to armie hammer's twin/clone on the left until 1:52
What's the Hat Winklevoss has
0:31 is that Minho from Maze Runner?
I need the sandwich thing explained to me. Are they flexing that they have an unlimited supply of supermarket subs? Or are they trying to look down on him by giving him only a premade sub? This is a serious question.
what??? they just want to give him food lol
It’s actually a subtle negotiation tactic. They offer him something while discussing a deal with him, so he’d be more inclined to agree to it. A similar approach was used on the show Mad Men.
It's a courtesy thing. He's a guest in their hangout (though they don't own it).
Aaron Sorkin: The curtains were blue-I mean it was a sandwich
They are using all the tools at their disposal to try to impress him or put him in a state where he's more agreeable.
So they have the idea and want Zuck to build them a whole app. And they were acting like it was a favor for god sake.
No, they were going to work together on it. Obviously he has the programming knowledge that they don't have, but they would have financed the whole thing because they have the money.
they beeped "laid"
I’ve seen this titile on another video
There’s a lesson here… don’t outsource your ideas
Imagine no gas ... in that car you drive
I have been trying to get my head around this scene because when they asked for his help he went and build it up for them but then they hated him? I don't understand this. I hope someone can explain to me why they hated him when asked for help. Or am I just not making sense?
Basically, mark set up the code like asked but then ran away with the idea, making it better than theirs, so they sued him
he didn't build it for them...he stole the idea. They sued...and won. They invested (and sold) in bitcoin, and are now worth billions.
the Winklevosses got zero thats why. oh.. and the sandwich
“A person that builds a chair doesn’t owe money to everyone who’s ever built a chair. They came to me with an idea, I had a better one.”
@@Bingo_the_Pugbut when someone gives you a particular idea for a kind of chair , it’s moral not to screw them over
Especially if they got the idea into your head
I guess he ate the other twin
balotelli and sergi roberto
fast forward a few decades - guess who fell in love with crypto lol
Uhh, redfoo!
Why did he not just say He's not interested & walk out. Not like he signed an NDA
Read the whole story. He originally wanted to work with them
get a head start, if he said no they could have found another guy to do it
솔직히 마크한테 아이디어만 말해줬지 코딩이나 브랜드네임이라던가 알고리즘이라던가 하나도 준게 없는데 나중에 소송에서 승리해서 페북 주식 어마어마하게 받았지.. 제일 꿀빨은 사람들이 윙클보스 형제하고 나란드라
Agreed
His words not mine
Zuckerberg killed that teacher if that was real lol
What's the deal with that guy who's hanging around with the Winklevoss's? Does he work for them or something?
In this scene, they mention that he's their partner. If you watch their movie, it's clear that they're close friends as well.
Is he steve
Ive been working on an app that integrates with your Tinder so you dont have to swipe past glib unhappy girls that just want a guy from Harvard
The reply to this is "yeah, your employment history is enough" and thats the key, ive adapted predictable insincere responses into the greater algorythm along with things like correcting someone's spelling and grammer all the way to pronouns in the bio
This could be an AI contender here, not sure yet
DON'T TRUST HIM!!!! HE'S CRAFTY!
i still don't understand a thing maybe i deserve to be poor.
3:48
Armie hammer wins
Upload an idea worth millions for free but scam your own Harvard gents??
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something something obvious cannibalism joke
i dont get the cannibalism joke
@@arnoldthegreat4138 because the Winklevoss actor may or may not eat human
Glad there werent two in real like the Winklevoss :D
Not only are the twins now disgraced, so is the actor portraying them.
why are the twins disgraced
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