The Eight Worst Places in Kent, UK

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
  • London is the capital of the Uk and it’s closely linked to its surrounding counties. Essex, Surrey and Berkshire to name a few. But today we’re focusing on Kent. I had never visited Kent before and wasn’t sure what to expect. It’s supposed to have the worst crime out of the surrounding counties and the former dock towns are rough. So I did what I always do and visited every town I possibly could in Kent. Go easy on me the weather was poor and did effect things. Let us know where you think Turdtowns should visit in the new year!
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  • @Turdtowns
    @Turdtowns  Před 5 měsíci +69

    *River Medway not The River Thames* my bad!

    • @NihilisticHedonism
      @NihilisticHedonism Před 5 měsíci +7

      The Kent Tourism Board will dislike this video and refuse to endorse it.

    • @Turdtowns
      @Turdtowns  Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@NihilisticHedonism I’m sure all the other councils endorsed my videos 😂

    • @NihilisticHedonism
      @NihilisticHedonism Před 5 měsíci +4

      I would become depressed just by visiting some of the places you've been to let alone living there.@@Turdtowns

    • @MATTY110981
      @MATTY110981 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I’m more disappointed that you didn’t mention Rochester loosing its city status due to an admin error.

    • @hippopotamus86
      @hippopotamus86 Před 5 měsíci +10

      5:13 Also Dover isn't famous for the channel tunnel, since it's not in Dover, but Folkestone.

  • @nickthebubble4060
    @nickthebubble4060 Před 5 měsíci +728

    Jokes aside can we all see an emerging pattern here. Most of England's once glorious towns have now entered a period of demise. Councils going bankrupt, not enough police and certainly not on the streets. Decrepit shopping precincts, failing public services....the list goes on. All the wealth from this country has been hoovered up but corporations and the elite. Not much hope on the horizon.

    • @jamesgrover2005
      @jamesgrover2005 Před 5 měsíci

      In a word.. Neoliberalisme.
      It's all going to plan, and bizarrely people keep voting for it.

    • @Meddled
      @Meddled Před 5 měsíci +98

      Yeah but immigrants.

    • @hoof2001
      @hoof2001 Před 5 měsíci +9

      been thinking same for a while. More a social economic recording of the effects of where we are on local places and people after all that’s happened

    • @bushwhackeddos.2703
      @bushwhackeddos.2703 Před 5 měsíci +63

      @@Meddled
      Yes, the tories and their friends are making fortunes from re placement, they tax borrow and print, then funnel it to their friends.

    • @imagseer
      @imagseer Před 5 měsíci +21

      Yes, it's a similar story all over. They've gone and mined-out the resources that once sustained the High street, and still think they can squeeze it more. Town planners and sociology experts need reeducation urgently.

  • @TheWtfnonamez
    @TheWtfnonamez Před 5 měsíci +283

    I grew up in the Medway Towns and the best way I can put it is this:
    When I watch movies about asteroids hitting the earth and wiping out humanity, I always grin and think of the Medway Towns.
    The river banks are covered by toxic sludge, when they shut down Chatham Dockyards and all the armed forces moved away the economy tanked, and there is a rotting WWII ammunition ship , the SS Richard Montgomery, sunk off the coast of Sheerness. It has 1400 tonnes of unexploded munitions in the hold and if the ship ever gets rammed, half of the Isle of Sheppey will be vapourised by a 1.4 megaton explosion.
    Apparently to this day, you can sometimes spot locals staring out to sea with a wistful look on their face, hoping that the collision will finally come.

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +13

      😂😂😂

    • @porkerthepig
      @porkerthepig Před 5 měsíci +14

      1.4 kiloton

    • @tinachristine4573
      @tinachristine4573 Před 5 měsíci +11

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are hilarious. You have the same sentiments someone once upon a time had towards Slough, so much so that a poem came of it 😅😅

    • @currawongee1
      @currawongee1 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Lol.

    • @mediterraneandiet2483
      @mediterraneandiet2483 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@tinachristine4573 sl OUGH!

  • @ratinatrap7815
    @ratinatrap7815 Před 5 měsíci +189

    I'm glad you've shined a light on how much of a dump certain parts of here in Kent are. I get sick and tired of the media always portraying the South East as rolling in money. When in fact the North West and Eastern parts of the county are pretty destitute.

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +27

      It's crazy how people think the roads down south are paved with gold

    • @peachyllama722
      @peachyllama722 Před 5 měsíci +14

      We relocated to the north, and I was genuinely asked if Kent had pot holes in the road

    • @twentyrothmans7308
      @twentyrothmans7308 Před 5 měsíci +7

      The perception from outside the UK is that Kent is/was until Turdtowns, lovely. I shit you not.

    • @stephenholt4670
      @stephenholt4670 Před 5 měsíci +6

      The garden of England, they call it. Basically the entire place is rolling hills and a land of milk and honey

    • @reanukeeves2k77
      @reanukeeves2k77 Před 5 měsíci +7

      The only thing really separating it from the North is proximity to London and the good jobs.

  • @russellhunter8378
    @russellhunter8378 Před 5 měsíci +221

    Dartford, Gravesend and Chatham were decimated by the opening of Bluewater in 1999. I was a native of Medway and the shops in Chatham High Street used to have an excellent range of amenities, the huge building past the Pentagon Centre used to be an Allders in the old days. There was also a BHS, Marks and Spencers where Primark is and a Co-op. All in the past now. You should have taken a walk down Luton Road underneath the arches at the top of the High Street, that would have been an eye opener(you probably wouldn't have had your camera very long though).
    Additional, should really have mentioned this originally but Leysdown on the Isle of Sheppey was home to the worlds first cargo flight when aviator John Moore Brabazon flew a pig in a basket across a field.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun Před 5 měsíci +25

      Luton road being appropriate as Luton is one of the ultimate turdtowns.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Not that Gravesend was in a great place to begin with. It used to be a major shipping hub, until containerisation happened and ships got bigger, so all the ships moved to Dartford. That leaves Gravesend with not a lot of business activity.

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@cjmillsnun yeah, Luton is only known due to being a place where real English people are in the bloody minority! That is sad.

    • @mercersletifer
      @mercersletifer Před 5 měsíci +6

      I remember getting dragged around Allders in Chatham as a kid. And Rochester market for what seemed like an eternity.

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +5

      Blimey, I forgot about Allders! That was like the posh department store for us Sheppey folk on our day out shopping in Chatham 🤣

  • @GraemePryce1978
    @GraemePryce1978 Před 5 měsíci +286

    There shouldn't be one food bank in a country like the UK. The very fact that they exist shows appalling failure of government to provide for and care for it's citizens.

    • @princebuster93
      @princebuster93 Před 5 měsíci

      @ Graeme, it is not the job of the government to provide for you, it’s your responsibility to sort your own life out 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ the corrupt Government is out of control and becoming more authoritarian by the week -

    • @harrygibbs9436
      @harrygibbs9436 Před 5 měsíci +17

      Very true. There especially shouldnt be any food banks whilst the RF live in the lap of luxury (for free) at the expense of the tax payer.

    • @davidscott3292
      @davidscott3292 Před 5 měsíci +9

      They are political.

    • @onlybugwit
      @onlybugwit Před 5 měsíci +2

      Now! That is very true

    • @bretton_woods
      @bretton_woods Před 5 měsíci +19

      according to the Tories, food banks show how wonderful and charitable we all are. World-beating spin! And they use "levelling up" because they think it appeals to the 18-30 demographic (they play games, games have "levels" .. ) yes they think that little of people.

  • @TruckingVideos
    @TruckingVideos Před 5 měsíci +54

    I lived in Ramsgate for 35 years and although it has the usual economic problems faced by UK seaside towns, the things I will always remember it for is how fresh and pure the air is, being surrounded on three sides by the sea and with no polluting heavy industry nearby, and how even on the hottest Summer day there was always a cooling and refreshing breeze coming in from the sea.

    • @roodonegan2904
      @roodonegan2904 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I was also from Ramsgate, born there, generations of us. I loved growing up there. However I recently visitied and was saddened to see how run down it has become, yes the front is nice, but on the whole it has become a demilitarised zone. Change is not always a good thing!

    • @ianhill4585
      @ianhill4585 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Really friendly people in Ramsgate, driving ,you make a mistake there's no obvious road rage, and people seem to apologise for non issues, someone thinks they've stepped in your path whilst walking ,they apologise --- no need just ultra polite.

    • @bobmitchell3653
      @bobmitchell3653 Před 4 měsíci

      I once lived in Margate and owned a large victorian mansion 3 minutes away from the sea front and in the course of 5 years it became a crime ridden shole along with quite a few local murders and junkies roaming the streets helped along by the local churches who fed these people after they wasted all thier dole money on drugs " we used to have a month where the council would collect unwanted items and that used to attract many to go through the items we put out scattering everything across the pavement and Rd and the hmos existed everywhere full of junkies or pedophiles as the last year there we were also burgled which made our minds up to get away from margate as it was once a lovely place but now destroyed by corrupt councils and businesses obtaining grants for improvements and then selling the assets as all I see now is London money and arty farty crap trying to polish a turd called margate .

    • @michaelhughes4466
      @michaelhughes4466 Před 2 měsíci

      I love Ramsgate, had brief holidays there each of the last three years. It could do with more bed & breakfast options and a decent Chinese restaurant. However the attraction as a cider lover is two great micro pubs and the biggest Wetherspoon in Britain, plus the harbour has real character. Visited nearby Margate on a day trip, rather nondescript.

    • @misst.e.a.187
      @misst.e.a.187 Před měsícem

      @@bobmitchell3653 The overspill of refugees and the homeless from London

  • @Mardenski100
    @Mardenski100 Před 5 měsíci +18

    The problems with Chatham started with the closure of the naval dockyard with the obvious knock on effect to the various ancillary services. A town enjoying near full employment suddenly had an employment rate of almost 25% overnight and it's never recovered.

  • @grahamcook9289
    @grahamcook9289 Před 5 měsíci +32

    That huge building in Margate is not part of Dreamland or a council block. It is a privately owned residential block and one of the worst examples of post war brutalist architecture, despite being listed.

    • @1mimarin
      @1mimarin Před 4 měsíci +5

      Yep, Arlington House or whatever it is called is truly an ocular assault.

    • @misst.e.a.187
      @misst.e.a.187 Před měsícem +2

      It's a fright. I couldn't believe it when I first saw it. Monstrosity.

    • @grahamcook9289
      @grahamcook9289 Před měsícem +1

      @@misst.e.a.187 That pretty much sums up Margate too.

  • @marionbloom1218
    @marionbloom1218 Před 5 měsíci +25

    The thing all these towns have in common is (1) the loss of industries that gave well paying employment, and (2) the destruction of the high streets by the authorisation of huge out of town shopping centres and supermarkets. I would argue the second trend was even more catastrophic than the first.
    Sheerness once had a steelworks, a chemical factory, and a buzzing commercial port that employed large numbers and paid very good wages. It wasn't a heaven-on-earth but most people had money to spend, there wasn't the poverty there is now. The Medway towns had many cement plants, a Royal dockyard that employed 30,000 people, many factories making road pavers, cement mixers, aircraft etc.; and in fact there is still quite a bit of employment in manufacturing in Medway, now mostly smaller businesses - I run one, and it is very hard to recruit labour, and wages for skilled people are rocketing. My home town of Gravesend was a buzzing retail centre that attracted shoppers from miles around, it had Marks, Debenhams, Argos, Woolworths, BHS, etc etc, now all gone; and once boasted as many as 52 pubs, remarkable for the size of population, again now only half still struggling on.
    Once the massive Bluewater and Lakeside shopping centres opened, and all the supermarkets were allowed to build big superstores outside the town that were more convenient for car parking, there was nothing to take people to the high street so shops started to close so it became even less attractive, and so followed vicious spiral downwards. That meant business rate revenue dropped so the Council had to put up the business rates, putting even more retailers out of business. You only have to walk around Bluewater and Lakeside, and talk to the retailers there about their stratospheric rents, to see that there is still PLENTY of money in retail - but it isn't going near the town centres any more, it's going into the pockets of the big corporations who own the shopping centres, and those of the four big supermarket chains who own their own properties.
    The blame for all of this must lay with the urban planners at the Council, and the local councillors who approved all of these out of town developments, they were too blind to see they were shoving a knife in the heart of the retailers that pay their rates. Having authorised this destruction, they are now starting to talk about "15 minute towns" where people can walk between home, work and shops - but that was what we used to have, before these short sighted idiot planners and politicians destroyed them! Until we finally recognise the evil social consequences of "out of town shopping" and close all these places, the towns will never be able to recover. Sadly, it won't happen due to vested interests.
    Disgusted of Gravesend!

    • @chrismanners9091
      @chrismanners9091 Před 5 měsíci

      Never knew Sheerness had a chemical works. I think Sittingbourne lost a lot of decent paying jobs too, though that's just about near enough to London for commuting.

    • @marionbloom1218
      @marionbloom1218 Před 5 měsíci

      @@chrismanners9091 Sheppey Glue and Chemical Works was well known when I was young.

    • @dianastevenson131
      @dianastevenson131 Před 5 hodinami

      A great summary - I totally agree. It's the big developers who have sucked the life out of our towns, and much of the developers' profits go abroad into tax havens. I often hear about local councillors getting backhanders for approving all these "developments" but I don't know how true that is.

  • @carriexplores
    @carriexplores Před 5 měsíci +35

    It kind of sends a shiver down my spine seeing the state of places now. These areas were never the best, but wow, they have gotten so much worse. The worst thing is, it is all over the country now. As much as I love the jokes on Turdtowns, it also highlights where we are heading socially and economically, and that is really sad.

    • @davidtomlinson6138
      @davidtomlinson6138 Před 5 měsíci

      That's what u get when authorities n gov. concentrate on looking after illegal immigrants n spend millions on em. Go figure - result = SHITE !

  • @chrisb2443
    @chrisb2443 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Chatham isn’t by the Thames, it’s the River Medway….hence the term Medway towns.

  • @runlarryrun77
    @runlarryrun77 Před 5 měsíci +24

    Kent lad here. Thank you for proving that the garden of England was concreted over long ago. I'm sick of being judged as "posh" or "lucky" for being born there. There's some real shitholes & even the "attractions" are crap.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Btw one of the streets you filmed in Gravesend is where I used to get the bus with my Nan. It was buzzing back then. Shocking to see how it is now. Also there used to be a plaque which narrowed down the approximate location of Pochahontas' grave.

    • @majordog2399
      @majordog2399 Před 12 dny

      Totally agree runlarryrun. People don't understand what it's really like .

  • @swansong5263
    @swansong5263 Před 5 měsíci +29

    Grey houses,
    Grey weather,
    Grey pavements,
    Grey sofas,
    Grey carpets,
    Grey cars,
    Grey towels,
    Grey faces!
    How utterly depressing
    In these grey times!
    Well done for braving all that grey!

  • @cirrusdragoon3893
    @cirrusdragoon3893 Před 5 měsíci +93

    It’s great knowing there are people out there who aren’t afraid to shine a light on the true extent of poverty and neglect in England. For the new year, I think it would be wise (and easier on your wallet) to keep tackling England and Wales. I can only imagine how expensive Scotland and Northern Ireland would be, if they are on your agenda of course. North of the border there are plenty of turdtowns in the Central Belt to get stuck into, particularly Ayrshire, the Clyde and Forth valleys. If you’re looking to continue Poshtowns, the Aberdeen region is full of them. Some advice though, it’s huge and a very long journey to get to, let alone travel around. Thanks for all your hard work man, have a Merry Christmas!

    • @llanieliowe794
      @llanieliowe794 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Cumbernauld is the worst town in the country

    • @carriexplores
      @carriexplores Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@heisenberg1271clearly no idea of the benefits system then. If people were comfortable on benefits they wouldn't be using food banks and living in temporary accommodation or on the street. Wake up.

    • @earthlingbrightstar
      @earthlingbrightstar Před 5 měsíci

      @@llanieliowe794honestly of the HMRC

  • @wendyburrows4178
    @wendyburrows4178 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I grew up in Kent, Gillingham and Chatham, but lived in Rainham, i can still recognize some of the buildings on your video. I'm going back 50 years ago and was fortunate enough to have left for pastures greener overseas. Came back for a visit in 1997 and was quite horrified how both towns had deteriorated so badly, very depressing.
    Margate was always a happy place as a trip to Dreamland and all the rides was our best time. We holidayed in Jaywick (which I believe is now in shocking condition). Very sad. They were very happy childhood memories for me.
    I guess everything changes with time.

  • @chrisbiggs4082
    @chrisbiggs4082 Před 5 měsíci +66

    Having visited a lot of places in Kent, I was fully expecting Gillingham to top the list being one of the most depressing towns I've ever visited, but after seeing and hearing about Sheerness, I don't think I'm surprised it came top despite having never visited personally. There's a lot of nice places in Kent particularly between Dover and Sussex.

    • @katypreen9588
      @katypreen9588 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Scrolled down to see where Sheerness ranked. Am a little surprised though that there's 6 towns on the Isle of Sheppey and only one made it. Maybe they couldn't stomach any more of the island after that.

    • @chrisbiggs4082
      @chrisbiggs4082 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@katypreen9588 I've never been to Sheppey, but from what he was saying about the town wasn't surprised it was top, but before watching the video I would've put money on Gillingham being top of the list by far the worst town I've visited in Kent. Kent has a lot of nice towns especially on the south coast.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 Před 5 měsíci

      There's good places & bad places all over the UK. People say "oh Kent is posh" yet Medway reminds me of Glasgow.
      Kent isn't anything special. It's just a place like any other.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@katypreen9588 I was surprised that Snodland didn't make the list. Or Tovill. Or Cuxton & Halling but the lad would probably have vanished if he went up that way.

    • @andygriffith5160
      @andygriffith5160 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@katypreen9588 Yeah, I don't think he can have made it as far as Leysdown-on-Sea, which I admittedly haven't been to for about 20 years but which I found uniquely depressing to visit.
      Normally when I've visited a run-of-the-mill shithole, it's with a grim fascination but with Leysdown I remember leaving and thinking "my god...".
      But hey, maybe it's changed in the intervening couple of decades.

  • @katypreen9588
    @katypreen9588 Před 5 měsíci +20

    I used to live in Sheerness, but because I'm able to read and string a sentence together, I was able to leave. After a period of rehabilitation in which I learned the benefits of cutlery, shoes and toilet roll, I'm now a fully-functioning member of society.

  • @michaelwilliams3232
    @michaelwilliams3232 Před 5 měsíci +40

    I was born in Dartford and now live in Gravesend. Growing up there was very little unemployment, jobs in heavy industries were plentiful and life was good for most families. Now that those heavy industries have gone we are left with vast scars on the landscape, gravel and chalk pits, flooded pits now too dangerous to be anywhere near (Snodland and Ebbsfleet for example). North Kent has paid the price.

    • @bretton_woods
      @bretton_woods Před 5 měsíci +4

      But Dartford's where Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are from - and you also have Bluewater shopping center! Try coming over to Southend, there is nothing. We're screaming out for a flooded chalk pit!

    • @michaelwilliams3232
      @michaelwilliams3232 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@bretton_woods Give me a break, good road and rail service, an airport and still a viable seaside resort with perhaps the longest pier ever! Chalk pits just sounds greedy.!

    • @bretton_woods
      @bretton_woods Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@heisenberg1271 Benefits are so great? Someone on a basic single person's Universal Credit is on around one-fifth of someone on minimum wage. That's about 80 quid a week for all your electric, gas and food. Benefits have barely increased in 25 years... thanks to inflation it's actually a cut in "Real terms".
      Even if you included the housing element for rent costs that's still only about a third of minimum wage overall.
      If people on benefits look like they are loaded, lots of holidays etc., then chances are they are doing something dodgy! The vast majority of benefit claimants though are law-abiding and for those people yes it is a real genuine struggle to get by.

    • @barryblatt6269
      @barryblatt6269 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Also born in Dartford, and though in my yoof the employment was high with lots of decent jobs at Wellcome and Hall Thermotank, there was still quite a bit of violence and crime. I moved to Yorkshire to get the fuck away from the place, and when the factories closed (thanks Maggie!) the place went from mediocre dump to total shithole in the space of a couple of years.

    • @roselletorres8648
      @roselletorres8648 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I ,'ve lived some months in Dartford and it seemed a nice place to me

  • @jetcity18
    @jetcity18 Před 5 měsíci +56

    I used to live in Kent, and fully agree with this list. The Isle of Sheppey (also known as Fraggle Rock) has always been a shithole. I was surprised that Strood didn’t make the list though.
    After moving to Scotland, it made me realise I’d never really appreciated how bad the roads are in Kent. You just accept that it’s busy most of the time.
    Speaking of Scotland, I’d be interested to see a Central Belt edition of Turd Towns. Plenty of fodder for that!

    • @darjeelingoffthegourd
      @darjeelingoffthegourd Před 5 měsíci +10

      stroods saving grace is that they can look at rochester across the river

    • @KnappKnits
      @KnappKnits Před 5 měsíci +9

      I lived on Sheppey for years. I didn't know one of its nicknames was Fraggle Rock. I always used to hope it had blown up and sunk before I got back from holiday!

    • @anthonyberry9132
      @anthonyberry9132 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Bathgate is a good candidate for turdtown.
      It Has plenty of competition though,a truly depressing place.

    • @TheAcuphase
      @TheAcuphase Před 5 měsíci +4

      Hahaha! Fraggle Rock used to be prison slang for the psychiatric wing. But it fits well here!

    • @chrismanners9091
      @chrismanners9091 Před 5 měsíci

      If you want to see terrible roads, come to (the mostly lovely) Herefordshire or Shropshire. Apparently it's always been like that because of the small population (apart from Telford) and large area, which means the roads always get underfunded.
      No excuse for Kent roads being bad though.

  • @rickiecheese36
    @rickiecheese36 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Bang on about Margate. ITS A DUMP. The media like to try and portray it as a trendy, hipster place, full of artists because Tracey Emin is from here and the Turner Gallery was built here. I live up the coast in Herne Bay and visited 6 months ago. The town centre was full of boarded up shops and the streets were full of rubbish. The Old Town, where all the trendies supposedly live, is 2 streets of "galleries" and overpriced cafes.

  • @bulletproofblouse
    @bulletproofblouse Před 5 měsíci +19

    Comedian Mark Steel once remarked that Swanley in Kent was the worst place in the world to grow up in, before Linda Smith countered with "Well you've never been to Erith then".

    • @will_n775
      @will_n775 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah I'm from Joydens wood which is one of the few nice areas in that area 😭 Albany Park, Old bexley and Wilmington are nice though

    • @kevinstoneham1245
      @kevinstoneham1245 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was surprised Erich wasn’t on the list.

    • @bulletproofblouse
      @bulletproofblouse Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@kevinstoneham1245 So was I, but apparently (thanks Wikipedia) it was folded into the Greater London district in 1965 and no longer a part of Kent.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@will_n775 I have had 40 fantastic years in this house next to Danson Park(Cheap side) and at 69 will never move. We had/have 76 Open Spaces within a 7 mile radius.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@will_n775 Footscray Meadows 245 Acres,Danson Park 185 Acres and neat Oxleas Woods, Avery Hill, Eltham Park North and South,Hall Place, and Scudbury Park are all within 3 miles and Beautiful and I have had 40 wonderful years here:)

  • @elgc123
    @elgc123 Před 5 měsíci +56

    Love that you’ve rinsed Margate.
    My boss has recently bought a holiday flat overlooking the beach here, and is constantly telling anyone who will listen how great Margate is.
    I took his advice a few summers ago and visited. Left within two hours. The ‘highlight’ of the visit was watching two teenagers lure a seagull by throwing chips so they could try and kick it, a shop keeper asking me to move my dog from outside their shop who was sat on the pavement whilst my wife was inside the shop, and two drug addicts screaming at eachother in a cafe.
    Horrid place. Just go to Whitstable!

    • @g.pmoore4293
      @g.pmoore4293 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Whitstable aka Islington on sea . Home to DFL's and posers .
      Margate has its problems sure but is on it's way up again .

    • @Bedmoments
      @Bedmoments Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@g.pmoore4293I lived in Whitstable for twenty years, stupid little place full of ridiculous people.

    • @nickgodfrey1148
      @nickgodfrey1148 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Went to Whitstable this summer and it wasn’t great. Better than Margate but that’s not difficult.

    • @elgc123
      @elgc123 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@nickgodfrey1148 yeh, far better to go out of season.

    • @elgc123
      @elgc123 Před 5 měsíci

      @@g.pmoore4293 ‘posers’ in Whitstable?! It’s not Mykonos pal 😅

  • @Chuggnuts
    @Chuggnuts Před 5 měsíci +18

    I had to stay in dartford for a week once in the 90's. I cant remember much from that decade, but how depressing dartford was is still very clear in my battered memory.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +1

      I have lived in Bexley, in this house, for 40 years and never stopped in Dartford and never had any inclination to look around. I passed through one or twice when The Dartford Tunnel approach roads were blocked. THat was fun..:)

  • @gohumberto
    @gohumberto Před 5 měsíci +8

    There such pathos when I see the attempts of Councils trying to fight the decline with zero budget available.
    I can hear their meetings... "Why don't we have a statue of a local hero in the town square?"
    "What about a community coffee shop in the old Debenhams?".
    It's just tragic.

  • @tgerule
    @tgerule Před 5 měsíci +8

    I m glad you rinsed Margate. I live here and ever since lockdown people have moved down from London. They ve partially gentrified it, but most of it is just shite. Because everywhere has graffiti and is dilapidated apparently that’s cool, and so house prices are ridiculous. At least there’s no way I can buy a house here and so it ll force me to move elsewhere

  • @megaflux7144
    @megaflux7144 Před 5 měsíci +16

    its odd how comedy and poverty mix so well together. bravo.

  • @duncanmorgan4322
    @duncanmorgan4322 Před 5 měsíci +12

    I've lived in several towns in Kent, and worked in Dartford, Gravesend and Chatham. Spent my early childhood in Sevenoaks, and my last abode was Eynsford.
    My memories of most Kentish towns are of sunny days and quaint villages and spectacular views. Mind you, this was nearly fifty years ago; luckily in 1980 I decided to emigrate to Vancouver, British Columbia, and now live in Kelowna, about 250 miles east. I can't tell you how glad I am that we left. That was the most depressing video I've seen in a long time. Keep up the good work!!

    • @Truthseeker1515
      @Truthseeker1515 Před 5 měsíci

      You have to be insane to remain in this country.

    • @bfyrth
      @bfyrth Před 5 měsíci

      True, but the winters are too harsh up there

    • @duncanmorgan4322
      @duncanmorgan4322 Před 4 měsíci

      Not where I live pal. Just got to get used to forest fires and the odd cold snap. Minus 22 today. !!!

  • @andrewroberts4736
    @andrewroberts4736 Před 5 měsíci +57

    I live in Kent and have been asking you to do this for ages.
    Gravesend is horrible. I used to work there. It's been bad for 40 years. It's very rough at night too.
    Ramsgate is a lot better now than it was. It used to be really rough but has had a bit spent on it.
    Dover is really rough and has serious housing and crime issues and we all know what's causing it but can't say.
    I went to school in Dartford and worked there. It's issues are the decline of the high street. It died when the Marks and Spencer left and the Market was chased out.
    Gillingham is just a bit of a nothing. Not bad, not great. A lot of our recent arrivals end up here.
    Margate has been bad for years. It had a huge influx of recent arrivals and people from London relocated by the council's for available housing.
    Chatham has a late night prostitution issue to go along with its other issues.
    Sheerness is just terrible. No redeeming features at all to be honest.
    You nailed this video !!!!

    • @tinachristine4573
      @tinachristine4573 Před 5 měsíci +21

      Stop using the issue of poor investment into local infrastructure as an immigrant issue. I am deep in Somerset and the town of Weston Super Mare and many other places I saw in Devon had issues that were similar to Kent, irrespective of 'recent arrivals'.
      Don't use vulnerable people's plight to push a political agenda, that is so low.
      P.S. I'm a recent arrival who just pumped over 20K into the tax fund, and I work up to 6 days a week. It's horrible to read xenophobic shite on the one day off I have. Go figure. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Před 5 měsíci +4

      Yeah, Kent is pretty bad. Ramsgate and Margate are both very rundown these days. Folkestone just another seaside town that looks terrible these days. Canterbury is pretty rough at a night, plus the high street redevelopment has made it lose a lot of its old character. The Isle of Sheppey was always pretty bad - but these days it's terrible. Chatham - the first time I went there in the mid 1990s, I went to the Pentagon shopping centre in the middle of the town and into the public toilets there - and I was shocked when I saw it had syringe bins in there for the drug addicts. Rochester has a big problem with prostitution at night. The Medway towns are all pretty bad. Dover has always been a bit of a dump - mainly because the only reason people go there is for the port, people don't really go into the town to spend the money into the local shops. I will also a lot of the small chocolate box type villages are also under threat, places like Ash and Wingham have lost their local pubs. There's also the mass house building that is going on in that area - it's destroying farmland and greenspaces everywhere - in what is supposed to be "the garden of England".

    • @nothereandthereanywhere
      @nothereandthereanywhere Před 5 měsíci +3

      Do you mean that the last 3 years have caused such a drastic and terrible decline in Dover? Nope, of course not. But some people need to find some excuse to justify their own mistakes in their life.

    • @andrewroberts4736
      @andrewroberts4736 Před 5 měsíci +4

      No of course not. The issues are decades old. Under investment, bad financial management by the council and a ridiculous policy of importing people from London due to a lack of housing stock. That was never the answer, we need to build more houses.

    • @andrewroberts4736
      @andrewroberts4736 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Your comments are ill advised. You have no idea what the problems are in Kent due to the proximity of continental Europe and London councils. Your contribution of 20k to the exchequer is welcome but hardly trumps my £750k over a lifetime of contributions. I used the term recent arrival advisedly . The arrivals in the coastal towns of Kent are not all from abroad by from London as I explained. You are so anxious to be offended you missed that bit. You don't live near these issues and know little or nothing about it.

  • @estherdoyle8175
    @estherdoyle8175 Před 5 měsíci +43

    So sad to see how Margate has declined. I used to go there in the 80/90s, mainly to get to the great Bembon Brothers Amusement Park or Dreamland as it was known. Had some of the best days of my life there, specially the time the Mary Rose attraction got stuck upside down for nearly ten minutes with everyone's loose change, false teeth, glass eyes falling out and plummeting to the ground. It also had one of the best fish and chip shops anywhere. My dear Ma and my daughter loved it too.
    My highlight of Margate was driving home in a minibus full of people and kids in a torrential downpour. I was navigating. The Man I Loved was driving. We were minutes from driving into the sea at Whitstable before I realised those tail lights I could see were actually way across the bay on a cliff top... Have a look for Wonderful Life by Black - it has a beautiful video of Margate in its prime.

    • @newroundheadcommandos2589
      @newroundheadcommandos2589 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Aaawwww❤

    • @BarryAllenMagic
      @BarryAllenMagic Před 5 měsíci +4

      Totally agree.
      A trip to the Joke Shop on the way back to the car park, was also a highlight.
      Benbom's was superb....loved 'The Looping Star'.

    • @cad4246
      @cad4246 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Still a great place to visit in summer. Arrive by bike on the coastal path. Quick dip at Walpole. Back to the promenade for amazing beer at Xylo. Then jump on the train home.

    • @dansouthlondon9873
      @dansouthlondon9873 Před 5 měsíci +2

      To be fair, I think the rating was quite harsh, and I'll put that down to the season. I visited there in October and I thought it was a very cool place - the places he filmed aren't permanently closed.

    • @deejohn1659
      @deejohn1659 Před 5 měsíci +1

      As bad as Margate may seem, it didn't really help things by filming it on a wet and out of season gray day. It all looks much different at the height of a busy Summer with the crowds and the sunshine.
      Have fond memories of Margate as a kid on our 2 week Summer holidays.

  • @IndigoJo
    @IndigoJo Před 5 měsíci +28

    It isn't hard to find boarded-up buildings in any town nowadays. Too many shops have shut because people don't go into town to shop anymore, they go online or they go to an out-of-town complex with acres of parking which is geared entirely to large chain stores. And yes, Bluewater may have contributed to the decline of nearby town centres but it was not the only reason; lots of the shops which have been boarded up were on their way out anyway.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      I have lived, the London side within 10 miles of Bluewater and never visited to shop only twice to drop off and I see the attraction.
      Surrounding High Streets clogged with traffic, awkward parking and yer no real traffic around Bluewater and easy parking and,of course, every shop aligns with each other.

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 Před 5 měsíci +9

    In the early 80s I went to college in Greenhithe, midway between Dartford and Gravesend, and before I even clicked on the video I suspected they'd both be on the list

  • @the_sage_head1953
    @the_sage_head1953 Před 5 měsíci +17

    I was about to get really angry thinking you had missed sheerness and then there it was at number 1. What a relief. I used to deliver methadone, heroin substitute there and i couldn't wait to escape

    • @StopAgenda21
      @StopAgenda21 Před 5 měsíci

      It literally is a Turdtown, dog sh*t everywhere you walk.

  • @Jimdixon1953
    @Jimdixon1953 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I’m shocked Maidstone didn’t make the list. I cycled through there once thinking it was going to be like Canterbury and couldn’t wait to get out.

    • @iamjimb
      @iamjimb Před 5 měsíci

      A town that should be nice but is filled with crime and too much traffic? It's just like Canterbury!

    • @lesskeels3417
      @lesskeels3417 Před 3 měsíci

      No way. It's not that bad. It has some good restaurants and shopping centres. It is the county town, after all.

  • @bitandbob1167
    @bitandbob1167 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Kent has a problem of massive urban sprawl - meaning it only has small to mid size towns that don’t concentrate the residents on the local high street. Residents go to three different retail parks / other towns each shopping trip, thinning out their spend making each town centre vulnerable. Every local council keeps approving stupid fringe retail parks that suck life out of high streets and worsen traffic. They need to clean up town centres, build mansion style blocks and some taller, to concentrate people in town centres and get them focusing their spend and time in one place. Support it all with quality green spaces and community facilities and of course some doctors and dentists you can actually see. Until there is higher density and less sprawl, Kent will be on a decline.

  • @WarrenF
    @WarrenF Před 5 měsíci +25

    There are nice places in Kent and people should visit, I would recommend
    Broadstairs
    Canterbury
    Royal Tunbridge Wells
    Deal
    Hythe
    Sevenoaks (knole park)
    Sandwich
    Aylesford
    Shoreham
    Mote park (Maidstone)
    Wye
    Farthing common lookout
    Folkestone
    White cliffs walk
    Blean woods
    Tonbridge
    Chilham

    • @WarrenF
      @WarrenF Před 5 měsíci +6

      There’s loads of great villages also to see

    • @salkoharper2908
      @salkoharper2908 Před 5 měsíci +7

      The garden of England is a beautiful county. Always loved the Downs and Woods. Never far from the sea. Continental Europe is a relatively short drive away. The big problem is the wealth divide. I've never been to any county with such rich people in one town and such poverty in another. Like night and day between Royal Tunbridge Wells and Gillingham. Like two different worlds. Kind of sums up England in 2024 in a way.

    • @pandurucatalin
      @pandurucatalin Před 2 měsíci +3

      Maidstone is underrated maybe it’s cause I live in Gillingham and my standards are low but I think it’s quite a nice town I go there quite often

    • @michaelhughes4466
      @michaelhughes4466 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I holidayed in Canterbury in 2022 and my advice is avoid, except as a day trip. It's handsome enough but the buses are useless in this largely pedestrianised city (I got around by taxi and shank's pony) and the pubs and restaurants mediocre. Despite what is said in this video, Ramsgate is more visitor friendly and easy on your legs, if not exactly posh.

    • @fionareed9884
      @fionareed9884 Před měsícem +3

      You forgot Tenterden!

  • @stephenlines9431
    @stephenlines9431 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Thanks for telling it like it is. I kinda try to do this, but at my age I just get labelled as a 'grumpy old git'. You sound much younger than me, and reasonable and compassionate. Please keep up the good work. There is so much that needs to be put right in this country, and though it has it's truly glorious bits, most of it seems to be broken.

  • @darwinsfish
    @darwinsfish Před 5 měsíci +13

    I always give Kent and Essex as examples as to why we need to resist developers trashing the countryside and increasing the local populations. Here in lovely Norfolk it’s just started to happen with noticeable traffic bottlenecks and quiet lanes now clogged with SUVs. I couldn’t believe the traffic in Kent and Essex. Took me ten minutes to cross a road in one small Kentish village. Unfortunately money will always talk and the concrete will be poured.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      Last night I got home in my car after Millwall beat Norwich in 21 minutes and I have a Kent address(though,admittedly,only just inside) lol

    • @chrismanners9091
      @chrismanners9091 Před 5 měsíci

      But where are people supposed to live? Developers build houses because people want to live in them.

  • @antonycharnock2993
    @antonycharnock2993 Před 5 měsíci +11

    You need to do a Yorkshire Turdtowns and team up with Wandering Turnip who actually talks to the locals to get their views on where they live.

    • @Turdtowns
      @Turdtowns  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Honestly I want to but every time I try I realise im already behind schedule. It takes a very long time get around 8 towns. Winter filming hours are short too.

  • @JEKAZOL
    @JEKAZOL Před 4 měsíci +2

    Moving to Chatham destroyed my mind. 12 years before I escaped... with the mental scar that will never leave me.

  • @TP-om8of
    @TP-om8of Před 4 měsíci +2

    The other problem with Kent is that developers are busy covering whatever open land they can find with ugly housing estates. The UK’s fertility rate is below replacement levels yet we’re fed the lie that there’s a “housing crisis” and we need to keep destroying the countryside.

  • @antonycharnock2993
    @antonycharnock2993 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Has anyone else noticed the latest trend for towns to pave their pedestrian areas in depressing grey and black blocks. It really doesn't help the vibe of many of these places.

    • @LiveInConcertUK
      @LiveInConcertUK Před 5 měsíci +3

      Excellent point. I was thinking exactly the same. Utterly devoid of character. Soulless, desolate, full of aggressive druggies. And nothing like the “artist’s impressions”. Usually topped off by some pointless sculpture costing hundreds of thousands of pounds.

    • @adyconstabletrainspotter7676
      @adyconstabletrainspotter7676 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes 100%
      Recently Canterbury has done it but didn"t estimate enough paving blocks so lots of " gaps" and "holes" for people and mobility scooters to fall or get stuck on.

  • @ladyjanus
    @ladyjanus Před 5 měsíci +13

    Wasn’t surprised to find my town on here. Dartford traffic is absolutely appalling. You can hardly move on the roads thanks to the Dartford tunnel and the QEII bridge. Thanks to Bluewater Dartford Town Centre has mostly died off

    • @paulcarter4429
      @paulcarter4429 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Dartford was dying long before Bluewater. M&S Woolworths .Co-op was a very large department store on three floors and closed on Jan1st 2000. Plus parking in Dartford was difficult and many other specilist shops had also gone.. The roads I would agree with I live near Crayford and the roads are appaling most days due to the Dartford tunnnel.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@paulcarter4429 Just shows Paul what a few miles make. I have lived on the Blackfen side of Danson Park in this house for 40 years since moving from S E London and the traffic isn't too bad at all. Knowing how I am very resistant to move if somewhere is ok, then I made 4 or 5 trips to the area at different times to ascertain traffic, possible developments, etc. before taking the plunge and leaving our Council Flat,11 miles away, just 2 miles from Central London. We even spent 90 minutes in our prospective new neighbour's house to see how well we would all get on:) Different times and they WERE really good neighbours:)

  • @backofthepack4553
    @backofthepack4553 Před 5 měsíci +33

    I grew up in Ramsgate in the 70s and 80s and it was nice then, but I got out of Thanet in 1984 and rarely go back, when I have it is really sad to see the beach ruined and the shops decimated, inept local politicians have contributed to its decline, Margate was always terrible, a day trippers pit of horror. I’m surprised you missed off Maidstone, that is genuinely a horrific experience

    • @jamesbeeching6138
      @jamesbeeching6138 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Went to Ramsgate on a school trip circa 1978 aged 5!! It rained....Our teacher got us to collect seaweed for her garden...Lots of kids were sick on the coach...Happy to return to New Eltham!!

    • @jackiesayer2623
      @jackiesayer2623 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Agree with you, especially your comment on Maidstone ! I grew up just outside of this town in Allington during the 70's/80's. It was quite a nice place then. I moved away to Berkshire in the early 90's, but recently returned to Allington to care for my father. Maidstone is dreadful !! OMG !! Such a dump for a county town. Looks like not much has changed for the Medway towns though lol.

  • @janrbnl
    @janrbnl Před 5 měsíci +10

    I visited the UK many times and I aways had great times there (except one time when the weather was really bad). There used to be a ferry service between Sheerness and Flushing (Vlissingen in Dutch). Unfortunately this was terminated in 1994.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy Před 5 měsíci

      In summer holidays there are a lot of cars with EU number plates NL ( Nederland) around Rochester, they holiday at Allhallows Park.

  • @jamesbeeching6138
    @jamesbeeching6138 Před 5 měsíci +39

    You should really do a whole episode on Sheppey....Its a notoriously terrible island...It has improved slightly now there is a permanent bridge. Previously there was a draw bridge that if it was raised meant the local police couldn't get onto the island to help!!! Also a fun fact : Some Motgers Do Av Em was based on Sheppey with Frank as a typical local!!!😅😅😅😅

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +7

      Michael Crawford is from Sheppey but that programme was based in Herne Bay

    • @jamesbeeching6138
      @jamesbeeching6138 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@no_soy_rubio I'm sure some of it was filmed there!!

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jamesbeeching6138 yeah the driving lesson one where he drove the car off the King's ferry Bridge was! 😆

    • @tinachristine4573
      @tinachristine4573 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@retiredbore378lol! Milford Haven was not an upgrade.

    • @tinachristine4573
      @tinachristine4573 Před 5 měsíci

      @@retiredbore378 I think most people are not ready for radical change, and they thought they'd be less discriminated against in MH. people want to fit in and want to avoid their kids getting bullied at school. I kinda understand that transition.

  • @Spiderwebsider
    @Spiderwebsider Před 5 měsíci +4

    Gravesend: the only place in the world where you can look across the river to Tilbury and wish you were there instead.

  • @ancipital
    @ancipital Před 5 měsíci +6

    I live in Kent and I've just watched your video and I have this to say - everything you say is absolutely correct! I've been to all those places and was only in Gillingham a few weeks ago! (car service) Everything you've shown is as I know it!
    it sucks really how bad things are getting and a lot of the locals have just given up.

  • @BarryAllenMagic
    @BarryAllenMagic Před 5 měsíci +5

    Brilliant video!
    Just one error that I noticed - your crime rate and average house price shown for Gillingham, actually states 'Dartford'.
    Just as an aside, I'm not surprised that many of the comments are pointing the demise upon one particular reason - what a surprise! The fact is, having worked across Kent for 25 years (it was the County I covered as a salesman), this decline has been ongoing for DECADES....not just the past couple of years.
    I do wonder, how many people who moan about town centre shops closing, ever consider this fact when they are shopping online with Amazon, etc?
    Great video - keep up the brilliant work mate.

  • @hikenadventure
    @hikenadventure Před 5 měsíci +8

    You are an absolute savage, lol. I have said for a long time that Kent is not the garden of England but it's backside. You took it to the next level, love it.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      There is a list above of many really pleasant areas in Kent to offset these holes and Leysdown isn't even on the list. lol
      I have had 40 fantastic years living right on the edge of S E London and Kent, since I moved from the heart of S E London,29 years ago.

    • @993Redveg
      @993Redveg Před 3 měsíci

      I'm a regular rambler in Kent, and have to say that, despite the urban dereliction the rural areas are beautiful in spring, summer and autumn, with many charming 'olde-world' villages.

  • @michaelhurley3171
    @michaelhurley3171 Před 5 měsíci +13

    You should come to the States, you'd never run out of content with all our Turdtowns!

    • @laurarojas8490
      @laurarojas8490 Před 5 měsíci +1

      There are loads of people that do these videos "joe & Nicole" Notice they never produce any content at night!!!!! Some of the videos click on 7m+

  • @johnholkham2420
    @johnholkham2420 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Most of the North Kent coast is deeply depressing , hardly Darling buds of May Territory.

  • @javiervagabond9524
    @javiervagabond9524 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Maidstone, the county town, should be a bonus track on this list.

    • @laurarojas8490
      @laurarojas8490 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Outside of Maidstone on the outskirts that is where there is serious money (Kings Hill)

    • @scottythedog8829
      @scottythedog8829 Před 5 měsíci

      And it's going downhill fast. They keep renovating office blocks into flats which are bought up by. London councils who fill them up with feral gang members.... Which has pretty much been the story of. Kent for decades

    • @lesskeels3417
      @lesskeels3417 Před 5 měsíci +2

      RUBBISH. Maidstone is quite nice, got good shopping, nice big green open spaces (Mote Park), good restaurants (Gem of Kent is great), and you can reach most places within the county easily, like Tenterden, Tunbridge Wells, Ashford, Canterbury, even Chatham on this list here, which I think isn't really that bad. There are megabucks properties in King's Hill, not far away, a lot of American expats have houses there. Barming is also quite nice, just on the fringes of Maidstone. Crikey, if you really want to see one great big Turdtown, with lots of Turdboroughs, look no further than Greater London.......East Ham, Croydon, Hackney, Hornsey, Stratford, Brixton, the Isle of Dogs, and that's only to name the most obvious ones,

  • @moonbeammoonbeam5739
    @moonbeammoonbeam5739 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Turdtowns, Wandering Turnip and Wendall - all highlighting the demise of our towns/cities
    Give it 10 years, I don't see high streets existing.

  • @trickygoose2
    @trickygoose2 Před 5 měsíci +6

    My sister went on an exchange trip to Germany with her school in the late 1970s. They went by ferry from Sheerness and I remember her saying it was a dump even then.

  • @sarahofsmeg
    @sarahofsmeg Před 5 měsíci +6

    Thankyou for visiting Kent, it was surreal seeing Gravesend on Turdtowns. What you said about Gravesend is spot on. Keep up the good work :-)

  • @DeeJayEll
    @DeeJayEll Před 5 měsíci +2

    You missed Sheerness’s one saving grace… The SS Richard Montgomery that went down just off the Sheerness coast with 1500 tons of explosives in the WW2. It’s said if it goes up it will take out most of the Island of Sheppy…. And most of the the north Kent coat!!😮
    Great video by the way! 👍

  • @AFCManUk
    @AFCManUk Před 5 měsíci +4

    Happy Christmas Dude!
    I do enjoy a good Turdtowns episode.
    As much as going further afield would be nice, I'd save yourself some money until the better weather comes, and cover the top 8 Turdtowns in the rest of the Home Counties for now - Plenty of shitholes in Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire, etc...and reasonably easy to travel to.
    Once again, great content!

  • @Summerisle1961
    @Summerisle1961 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I've never been to Sheerness but if it's worse than Chatham it must be bloody horrible. Last time I was in Chatham I asked a woman in one of the shops if there were any nice pubs in town. She just laughed.

    • @duncanmorgan4322
      @duncanmorgan4322 Před 5 měsíci

      How sad. When I worked there in the 70's, every other building was a pub, Navy town the reason. Now I live in Canada... phew.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy Před 5 měsíci

      Ignorant woman. The Firkin Pub ( Old Post Office ) is a Weatherspoons at 14 Railway st.

  • @John2Ward
    @John2Ward Před 5 měsíci +27

    I moved to Chatham just short of 27 years ago, and have been happy here ever since, moving to a bigger home in the same town a couple of years ago. I knew it would be on this list, but was pleased at the positive points raised in particular.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oh the Luton Arches are featured in this video, I live just around the corner and my home is adorable. Bought my house in 1999 for £ 26 000 . Have lived mortgage and rent free for 20 years, its paradise here, compared to the Tower Block I lived before in London. I fled to England escaping crime in Africa, white flight.

    • @John2Ward
      @John2Ward Před 5 měsíci

      @@johnsmith-ht3sy I go via Luton Arches whenever I head into the town centre or back out again. I live in Princes Park.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@John2Ward I always tell folks when I first meet them " I live in the Posh part of the Medway".

    • @WHern-gs6im
      @WHern-gs6im Před 4 měsíci

      Where'd you move from? Chernobyl? 😂

    • @John2Ward
      @John2Ward Před 4 měsíci

      @@WHern-gs6im South London.

  • @grantbeerling4396
    @grantbeerling4396 Před 5 měsíci +4

    It seems from my travels 80% of the country falls within the range of turd town. Depressing.

  • @laverdajota8089
    @laverdajota8089 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Sheerness is a sheet hole , interbred population, surprised they don’t have clubs for Banjo players

  • @cafsixtieslover
    @cafsixtieslover Před 5 měsíci +4

    I do have a soft spot for Margate as I always holidayed in Cliftonville as a kid and I do visit once a year on a coach trip. It is a strange mix of shops, either overpriced retro shops or a mainly boarded up High Street. Nice beach though.

  • @timbounds7190
    @timbounds7190 Před 5 měsíci +23

    You ought to do a video on Essex turdtowns - it has a few!! Has some nice ones as well, which makes the contrast rather startling. Put it this way, I grew up in South Essex and people used to regularly take the Ferry across to shop in Gravesend because it was considered quite grand compared to Essex!

    • @Silent002
      @Silent002 Před 5 měsíci +7

      You beat me to it! I'm (sadly) also a native of South Essex and remember Gravesend being hyped in the 90s as a nice place to visit - but when the ferry is leaving from Tilbury, ANYWHERE is a nice place to visit. I'm sure Turdtowns could have a field day with Thurrock Council's bankruptcy being the largest ever on record, as well as being on the other side of that nasty crossing on the road to nowhere AND home to what was the largest shopping center in Europe when it opened. Just a shame Southend doesn't quite look as run down as it was in the 90s, though the pier still tries to off itself and self-combust every few years, which isn't surprising since it's stuck in Southend for its entire existence.

    • @procrastination_productions
      @procrastination_productions Před 5 měsíci +3

      Also from south Essex. I remember Basildon and Shenfield being Shitholes. Maldon has the worst high street I’ve been on and the roads into Chelmsford are harder to cross than the Berlin Wall. I moved to West Yorkshire and never looked back!

    • @timbounds7190
      @timbounds7190 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@procrastination_productions You can't forget Tilbury - this was looked on as a dangerous place even in the 60s! I grew up in Grays, which has had the stuffing knocked out of it by the opening of Lakeside, and even the nicer areas are now filthy, rundown and litter-strewn - and the houses are still worth a fortune! Further afield Southend and Clacton have their very seedy spots, and whilst I used to quite like Chelmsford (haven't been for decades), I always had a problem with Colchester - there always seemed to be an air of menace about the place - even during the day time! You escaped to W Yorks, I'm on Teesside, and sometimes even Teesside is more inviting than South Essex!

    • @Silent002
      @Silent002 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@procrastination_productions Yep, all great suggestions - The Army and Navy flyover in Chelmsford always looked like it would fall down in a light breeze. Shoutouts to Corringham, Stanford, Tilbury, Grays, Ockendon, Aveley, and Purfleet for being some real turds of south Essex. Special mention for Brentwood for giving the world TOWIE and utterly destroying what little pride people could have in the name of Essex.

    • @procrastination_productions
      @procrastination_productions Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Silent002Brentwood’s bad but the area outside shenfiejd station is the most bleak place I had ever set foot in.

  • @BurgundyBag66
    @BurgundyBag66 Před 5 měsíci +3

    As a kent resident I agree with most of this. I will just say that the listed building in Margate may be somewhat hideous, but it is somewhat cuclturally important as a remnant concrete architecture.
    Also isle of sheppey, you missed leysdown. That is a place I will never forget!

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      Little did I realize 30 years ago that when my 70-year old Mum was unwell and I could, barely, move with Gout and our dog accompanied us to the local Pharmacist all clinging to each other and limping along, that was going to be the highlight of my week's holiday in Leysdown...

  • @judybee
    @judybee Před 5 měsíci +4

    I moved to Kent 20 years ago from SE London. Whilst doing family research over time, I discovered that all my relatives were from Gravesend, something I had never known. They owned one of the breweries alongside the Thames. One of the ancient churches has windows dedicated to my ancestors & one was even the local Mayor!! They would be weeping if they could see Gravesend now. It's a dark ghostly shadow of how it was & I rarely go. So sad. There's good & bad areas everywhere in the UK. When you live in an area you know where to go & where to avoid. Kent also has some peaceful green spaces too & some lovely walks with interesting historical places. Just so sad that the towns have declined so much.

  • @coreyldr
    @coreyldr Před 5 měsíci +5

    I lived in Kent for just over a year and travelled around most towns regularly, all the towns mentioned are very grim and disgusting however ive never felt more unsafe than I did in Ashford.

  • @richardbyrnes8398
    @richardbyrnes8398 Před 5 měsíci +10

    In fifty years' time, after the apocalypse, when the world is a burning pit if radioactive waste, people will look back on these precious videos be shocked just how shit most of England was.
    Thank you for your service, Margaret, John, Tony, Dave and all the fuckwits that followed them.

    • @martincannon1078
      @martincannon1078 Před 5 měsíci +1

      There won't be any people after the apocalypse, let alone with memories to look back. Heavens forbid I am from Kent originally and luckily met my French wife there and we came to lovely France 50 years ago to live. I have never been back. I don't miss that crappy depressing climate or the junk food.

  • @stonkerontheroad9609
    @stonkerontheroad9609 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Parts of the 'Garden of England' are beautiful. You visited the compost heap 🙂

    • @993Redveg
      @993Redveg Před 3 měsíci +1

      Kent remains a beautiful, mainly rural county despite the pockets of urban dereliction, which is happening throughout the country, due to factors that have already been described.

  • @MATTY110981
    @MATTY110981 Před 5 měsíci +16

    I’m surprised only two of the Medway towns made the list.
    Good to see you done a video in the south east.
    Unlike the your previous videos you a highlighting an area of the country that has both a geographic and economic advantage. Yet still has some extremely dire and depressed towns

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Před 5 měsíci +1

      Well there'd be no room to talk about anywhere else if they talked about all of them

  • @cliffboulton8763
    @cliffboulton8763 Před 5 měsíci +32

    How come you missed out Trashford, sorry, Ashford?
    Maybe Councils will realise one day (When it's too late) that out of town shopping centres kill the real town centres.
    It happened at Trashford when they built "The Designer Outlet" and moved the Market too
    Bluewater did it for Dartford, Gravesend, Chatham & Gillingham to a certain extent.
    Westwood certainly messed up Ramsgate and Margate.
    Dover?? We all know what's messed that place up.
    Good video though.

    • @trickygoose2
      @trickygoose2 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Ashford must be number 9!

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +2

      Councils and governments don't give a toss about the high streets dying

    • @gearjammer3688
      @gearjammer3688 Před 5 měsíci

      I love in Ashford. To be honest, it's not that bad. Good places to eat, and shop. Lots of places to work. Town centre is a bit pants though. Easy access to lovely countryside is a plus.

    • @cliffboulton8763
      @cliffboulton8763 Před 5 měsíci

      I agree with you on the countryside. The rest? Are you sure?

    • @gearjammer3688
      @gearjammer3688 Před 5 měsíci

      I moved here some 23 years ago, not really a choice as it was affordable. To be honest I still rather like it. Maybe it grows on you like mould. I also remember it from the early 80,s and the change for the better is simply amazing. It's still not Canterbury mind you!

  • @stevesamson3940
    @stevesamson3940 Před 5 měsíci +4

    When I first started driving I hated roundabouts too, but now I know how to drive I love how they keep traffic moving and reduce jams. Come back when you've been driving for a few years and you'll love Kent.
    Edit: There's a lot of green space in Medway too. Plenty of parks and places where you can go from the town centre to wilderness in a matter of minutes like Cuxton and the Lines
    Edit 2: Pocahontas there's a f**king monument at her grave it's by the river

  • @annaclaire9927
    @annaclaire9927 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So many beautiful places in Kent. Faversham, Whitstable, Canterbury and many pretty villages.You are doing a disservice to Kent.
    Dover has the castle and a museum.
    Canterbury is a beautiful city with the famous Cathedral.
    Lots of beautiful castles and gardens.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +1

      I lived in the heart of S E London and many of us had caravans in Seasalter(us) Whitstable and Herne Bay etc and that is MY part of Kent but we had to get off the caravan site in 1971 so over 50 years ago. In fact, 40 years ago I moved from the heart of S E London to Bexley because that was a coach stop on the way to our caravan that we visited about 11 weeks in the year including all 7 weeks of school holidays. The 1960s were idyllic "Darling Buds Of May" years 🤩

  • @groundflop
    @groundflop Před 5 měsíci +19

    Excellent, I've been waiting for my home county to get the Turdtowns treatment since I found the channel. I was shocked when Chatham was only in second but realised I'd forgotten Sheppey (I think most people try to forget about it). There are actually 3 prisons on the Isle of Sheppey and it's apparently where the 'alpha' variant of Covid came from.
    If you ever do a Lincolnshire video, I would be fascinated to know how Grimsby compares to other Turdtowns. I've travelled a lot in the UK and it's easily the most neglected place I've visited.

    • @laurarojas8490
      @laurarojas8490 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Prisons = Jobs

    • @reanukeeves2k77
      @reanukeeves2k77 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Boston would be a good one to cover for Lincolnshire

    • @martindavis3393
      @martindavis3393 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I've lived in Grimsby for the last 25 years. Suprisingly enough I moved here to find work and I found it, I've been gainly employed here for the last quarter of a century (although I now actually work from home.)
      Up until a year ago I thought this town was a hole - miserable people, low education, high unemployment, youth crime, drugs and a derelict town centre and high streets. Having watched Turdtowns now, I realise that these problems are not just in Grimsby, but affect the whole of the UK. Grimsby is no longer a shithole, it's just the same as every other small town in the UK.
      You can blame the death of the high street on out-of-town malls and internet shopping, you can blame youth crime and drug use on the lack of well-paid sustainable jobs and you could blame poor education levels on an education system that cares more about league tables than personal enrichment, but all of these combined factors are what's causing most of what you see in these videos.
      The next government has got it's work cut out.

    • @laurarojas8490
      @laurarojas8490 Před 5 měsíci

      @@martindavis3393 You really think the system cares about the ordinary person?

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@reanukeeves2k77 He doesn't speak Polish:)

  • @che630
    @che630 Před 5 měsíci +3

    What about Ashford ? What a dump. I moved away 20 years ago, came back recently and couldn't believe it. Nothing but expensive houses and a dead high st.

  • @MatthewJohnCrittenden
    @MatthewJohnCrittenden Před 5 měsíci +6

    During 9/11 someone in Chatham heard that The Pentagon had been attacked and hoped it was the shopping centre which had needed razing to the ground for years. Grew up around Medway, got the hell out 18 years ago for Australia where things are still trying to kill you but they generally aren't human. Solid list, particularly sad about the decline of Margate, loved visiting back when it was booming.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was actually inside Chatham Pentagon and a workman had a transistor radio on announcing the Twin Tower being struck by a plane. Went home switched on TV just in time to see live Tower 2 struck. 2001.

    • @MatthewJohnCrittenden
      @MatthewJohnCrittenden Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@johnsmith-ht3sy I was working in Tonbridge when it happened, watching the financial news feeds go nuts. Memorable day.

  • @debsmith5520
    @debsmith5520 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Shout out for Sheppey... Once visited, never forgotten 👍🏻...

    • @sarkybugger5009
      @sarkybugger5009 Před 5 měsíci +1

      And never revisited, unless well paid, or sent to one of the various prisons on the island.

  • @mike-A299
    @mike-A299 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thanks for taking my suggestion of doing Kent! Luckily, I live in Canterbury, which is one of the few non-turd towns/cities in Kent. The county is a scummy place, overall.

  • @flygrace
    @flygrace Před 5 měsíci +3

    I knew Sheerness would be #1! I used to travel through there regularly when there were ferries to Vlissingen (Olau Line, lovely ships). There was also the Sheerness Steelworks, gone now. Much later I discovered that my grandfather was born in Sheerness. His father had come down from the North East to work as shipwright in the Royal Dockyard, also now gone.

  • @axolotlgamer615
    @axolotlgamer615 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Buckinghamshire?

  • @FriedEgg101
    @FriedEgg101 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I once dated a girl from Orpington. I spent one Christmas with her parents, and was pleasantly suprised by how nice it was. She took me to Bluewater, which was a great shopping experience, although kind of stressful to drive to.

    • @cad4246
      @cad4246 Před 5 měsíci +1

      As others have said Bluewater is what killed several of the towns mentioned here.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      True just like Video Killed The Radio Star..@@cad4246

    • @user-mn4cc6bb7t
      @user-mn4cc6bb7t Před 5 měsíci

      Despite what many of the locals think, Orpington has not been in Kent since it was subsumed into Greater London in 1965.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      @@user-mn4cc6bb7t Within one aside of working in Orpington. I got the job in 1991/92 and as I was about to leave, having agreed terms,my prospective Boss told me that he was off to the Caribbean and being new to the Business,I changed my mind and the whole course of my life:)

  • @daliahwood6156
    @daliahwood6156 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I always enjoy listening to your advice on town! Can you do one on Surrey please love to hear your advice x

  • @tomasfowles7330
    @tomasfowles7330 Před 5 měsíci +8

    For future visits, Essex would be worth a look. Some nice villages in the north of the county; Dedham, Langham, and Ardleigh, and Battlesbridge to name a few. In constant, you have awful towns like Southend, Basildon, Thurrock, and Colchester.

    • @carriexplores
      @carriexplores Před 5 měsíci

      Not forgetting Jaywick 😮

    • @993Redveg
      @993Redveg Před 3 měsíci

      My daughter lives in Wivenhoe in Essex, quite close to Colchester. I'm surprised that Colchester is an 'awful' town, as I am quite impressed with it whenever I go there with her and my grandson. There is a lot of history there, and not a lot of visible dereliction.

  • @-_._._-
    @-_._._- Před 5 měsíci

    SHOVE! IT! MANNNN! Markyd123 back with another of his excellent Turd Towns videos. When are we gonna see more of The Hawk?

  • @neilcrawford8303
    @neilcrawford8303 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Excellent, I've visited or commuted through some of these place when working in the construction industry.
    I got a little worried as the list went on, but you didn't disappoint, you put Sheerness on top spot.
    It doesn't even have a direct rail service to London. Another area is the Isle Of Grain. I feel sorry for anyone who lives on that desolate and isolated spit of land.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      " I feel sorry for anyone who lives on that desolate and isolated spit of land".
      Made me laugh out loud:)

  • @darjeelingoffthegourd
    @darjeelingoffthegourd Před 5 měsíci +5

    surprised strood didnt make the list. north kent in general is just a pretty grim place.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 5 měsíci

      Shout out for the inclusion of Snodland where seeing the traffic lights change seems the main attraction..

  • @tommysmith5479
    @tommysmith5479 Před 5 měsíci +26

    I'm glad you did Kent. So many people seem to think that Kent is full to the brim with the middle-classes. Yes, there are a of of middle-classes but there's also a shed load of scum, too. A few places that weren't on your list: Leysdown (Sheppy), Folkestone, Strood, and most of all, Swanley. Swanley is a massive dive... I really try to avoid it at all costs. There is nothing redeeming about it. By the way, I was born and brought up in Kent, so I know what's what 😉😜 Also, Canterbury is quickly becoming a turd-town... it's a real shame.

    • @freeganjustin6699
      @freeganjustin6699 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Swanley is an overwhelmingly working class sprawl. It's terrifying if you think working class equals bad and middle class equals good, but not otherwise. There's a very nice park, with its own railway. And car parks where outsiders have to pay, but are free for locals.

    • @tommysmith5479
      @tommysmith5479 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@freeganjustin6699 Yes, the park is great - but that's not enough to redeem the place.

    • @dutypaidrock
      @dutypaidrock Před 5 měsíci +3

      Agree with you about Canterbury. I'm so fed up of people swooning over it. They've probably never been, at least not recently. Half the high street is shut, there's a massive homeless problem, and for 6 months of the year, you can't move for tourists. Driving around there is a joke too. So glad I don't work there anymore. That commute was painful.

    • @daxibradley5922
      @daxibradley5922 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@dutypaidrockI agree; was there with a friend today and the closed-down shops are depressing. The language schools have list business, partly due to the increased bureaucracy for entry to the UK since leaving the EU, so there are fewer EU students making purchases in the town. The cuts to the rail service to Canterbury East haven't helped either...

  • @stuartjamesgemmell
    @stuartjamesgemmell Před 2 měsíci

    My mum grew up there 50 years ago and this was fantastic. Thank you for posting! It looks as gorgeous as ever good memories! All the locals complaining in the comment section are hilarious. Don’t be grumpy

  • @user-fb3yf2xb2z
    @user-fb3yf2xb2z Před 5 měsíci +6

    commute commute...and when you finally manage to get home, you're in dartford. Classic.

  • @mawin5899
    @mawin5899 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Does anybody know why people you don't want to look at are particularly attracted to town centres? Like people who drink Special Brew for breakfast or those who keep themselves on a never ending spice trip? They seem to be drawn into the town centre somehow and seem to show up in nearly all of these videos.

    • @salkoharper2908
      @salkoharper2908 Před 5 měsíci

      It's because that's where the dealers are too. Harder to get drugs in a suburban cul-de-sac. Easier in the Town centre. Really all there is to it. These drugged up zombies are not rocket scientists.

  • @mariemccann5895
    @mariemccann5895 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Sheerness really does take an extra flush!

  • @cookecothanet
    @cookecothanet Před 2 dny

    Lived in Margate for 50 years and had a business in Margate for 32 of those. Great place to live , work or retire. Really buzzing now with great atmosphere .

  • @ayt_a
    @ayt_a Před 5 měsíci

    I seriously recommend you do a video on Telford in Shropshire.
    Keep up the good work; a hidden gem, this channel.

  • @laurarojas8490
    @laurarojas8490 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Bit harsh on Margate & Ramsgate, I like them of course they aren´t going to look good on December days, where does?

  • @no_soy_rubio
    @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +16

    I grew up in Kent and hiked the whole coast earlier this year.
    Gravesend is grim, I totally agree. Miserable and dank, but the Fort is worth a look.
    Ramsgate is much better than it used to be. And like you say the Marina (and beach) are pretty nice, especially in summer.
    Dover is another place that could be much better and steps are being taken to improve it. The town centre's grotty. The castle and gaol are fantastic, as are the white cliffs.
    Dartford, bland and forgettable. Yeah you nailed it there.
    Ah, Gillingham, the team I support. Voted by many as the worst 'away day' in the country. It is depressing and does feel like a poor London overspill.
    Growing up on the Isle of Sheppey, I used to think Margate was like California 😂 yeah, it's pretty bad. Used to be much better. There's a few things to do and out of the town centre is much nicer and there's some great buildings and beaches.
    Chatham is rough and always has been. The birthplace of the word 'chav'.
    Wow, my hometown is number 1 🤦‍♂️ well, technically I grew up in Minster, but still. I did my secondary education off the island though 😂 that dog shit alley is grim. The truth is, nobody goes into the town centre anymore. Out of town retail parks or 'off the island' is where people do their shopping and socialising now

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Fort is a ruin of a ruin. It may be a historic site, but it's not important enough for any effort at preservation.

  • @ohsandones
    @ohsandones Před 5 měsíci

    This is sooo on point! The narration is an easy 10/10 🤌🏾😂😂

  • @andyduggan7810
    @andyduggan7810 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Magnificent work, as ever, and obviously at great emotional cost.

  • @julianhuntly9622
    @julianhuntly9622 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Since when has Chatham been pushed up against the Thames? It's on the Medway.

    • @Turdtowns
      @Turdtowns  Před 5 měsíci

      Yea you’ve got me there

  • @Footie158
    @Footie158 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I can't believe you have put Gravesend below Dartford as someone who lives in the area, lots of your critique of Dartford is gone if you use the train, takes 35 mins to get to London Bridge. Good video anyways, keep it up!

    • @no_soy_rubio
      @no_soy_rubio Před 5 měsíci +3

      He was pretty riled up about the driving situation 😂

    • @notmanynamesleft
      @notmanynamesleft Před 5 měsíci

      35 mins away from the biggest third world cesspit in England, that's not a good thing.

  • @thekentishpilgrim
    @thekentishpilgrim Před 5 měsíci +2

    Come back to Thanet in season and on a day it's not raining, I guarantee you will have a good time. Agree both towns High Streets need help but the people that know avoid the center of town as that's not where the fun is to be had.