Cool thing about multi-hit moves that I wanted to bring up but couldn’t find a good way to: When boosted by a gem, each hit gets the boost. This idea’s success with Cloyster is one of the big reasons why they were banned in Gen 5. However, with Cloyster now being removed from the tier, some players want to bring the item back in exchange for another common abuser: Volcarona.
They just said "Lets give an absurdly strong move to a mon with a shitty attack stat so its balanced" when designing gigaton hammer and then a year later made blood moon...
@@lynxfresh5214 also kinda funny how a move as epic and cool sounding as "dragon dance" is now the baseline for a bunch of other moves that are just dragon dance but better
And while fighting types got incredibly good moves like close combat and mach punch, rock types are still locked into a risky move like stone edge. GF has its favouritisms I guess
Eruption, Dragon Energy and especially Water Spout are so hilariously terrifying in VGC. Suddenly the game turns into "Target this thing or else" and it's especially horrifying when you have to take into account speed control and Protect
Seeing Machamp in the thumbnail made me think of Fissure instead of Cross Chop, considering everything Game Freak did to make sure Machamp could not have Fissure and No Guard at the same time. Bonus points for Ting-Lu.
I wish Porygon-Z got Boomburst. It would make my little heart flutter with joy at the prospect of destroying everything in sight with my glitched sentient computer program buddy.
Tera normal punk rock toxtricity with throat spray and a symbiosis normal gem oranguru is one of my favorite team cores and indeed makes boomburst menacing. It's a gimmick and gets fucked by open team sheets, but sometimes people just don't have an answer fast enough and get steamroller. Very fun.
No, seriously. It has 140 base power, 100% accuracy, 16 PP, has no drawbacks, can hit through Substitute, and can hit multiple opponents at once. WHO THOUGHT THIS MOVE WAS A GOOD IDEA?! WHY IS IT SO BROKEN?!! The only thing it doesn't have is being super effective to another type, but that could also be to it's favor because it can't hurt every type neutrally except Ghost. Who let this happen?!! 🤣
@@Mr.Cynical FUN FACT! A +2 Porygon-Z (Nasty Plot) would have a guaranteed 2HKO on a max SpD EV, Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Blissey if it had Boomburst :) GIVE MY BOY BOOMBURST HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO ROT IN NU!
To elaborate on Machamp’s gen 1 fighting moves: Machamp has access to 3 fighting type moves. One is counter, which is a whole separate mess in gen 1. Submission is the first option, which is 80 base power, 80% accurate and inflicts 1/4 recoil. The only other choice is Low Kick, which has a pathetic 50 base power and 90% accuracy. However, the flinch chance and better consistency has made it more popular in recent years. Its utility as a late-game cleaner also gets kneecapped by paralysis, which is awful when at least 4, 5 and sometimes all 6 Pokémon on your opponent’s team can paralyze you with Thunder Wave, Body Slam or Stun Spore. It also lacks the special bulk it gains in later generations, and has a Sp. Def stat of 65. Combined with the oppressive power of Starmie, Exeggutor and Alakazam, Machamp is an incredibly fringe pick, and is almost always worse than Pokémon like Persian or various Swords Dance sweepers. TL;DR Machamp sucks and is a noob trap. Use actually viable mons in RBY OU.
Triple Axel with Skill link or Loaded Dice only makes the one 90% accuracy check, effectively giving you a free 14% extra chance to land all three hits (that’s a better than wide lens usually gives!) It’s definitely one of my favourite moves in recent gens, I run it on all three of my shiny fast physical attackers. Meowscarada, Cinccino and Weavile.
@@Oneandonly-xg6iu you do it if you can run other moves that hit a random number of times, like tail slap or bullet seed, effective making loaded dice a damage boosting item and also a wide lens for triple axel.
Encore is my favorite move in the game. I love getting Illumise in random battles and just knowing I can shut down all my opponents setup attempts by switching in this random bug and getting priority encore on it. I feel like there's gotta be downside to running encore and swords dance on the same set though, that really limits your coverage, right? I've always felt like encore is a much more anti-setup option than an option to enable setup sweepers, and I've generally used it on more bulky pokemon that want to set it up, heal, and pivot out.
Iron Valiant commonly runs encore + calm mind with moonblast and coverage, or alternative encore + SD with close combat + coverage in singles. Encore Val has seen a ton of success in OU, and imo, is one of the best Val variants to use
Multi hit moves were even dumber in Gen 1, since if one hit crit, every subsequent hit would also crit. And that’s not even taking into account the normal crazy Gen 1 crit mechanics based on speed and scaling damage with level or every Pokémon that has over 64 speed has a 99.7% chance to crit with high crit rate moves.
Multihit moves in RBY also had like no base power and subpar accuracy, not to mention you're significantly more likely to just hit 2 or 3 times compared to modern Pokémon.
I really despise the way Gigaton Hammer is designed due to how it contradicts Tinkaton's lore. They could probably change it with a line or two of code by making it so it ALWAYS does super-effective damage to Corviknight so it can live up to how Tinkaton hunts Corviknight. Instead Corviknight takes the attack easily because of a Steel resist. They do something similar with Freeze-Dry anyway. It's another monster that inspires me to avoid such an issue.
Pretty sure the hunting corviknight thing is a misconception, all it actually does last time I checked is hurl rocks at it when it's bored. However her previous Evo does inexplicably manage to hunt Pawniards and Bisharps so like supereffective against steel sounds funny. Also give her the Steelworker ability that sounds double funny
Tbh it's the ability Mind's Eye that is broken which makes Blood Moon powerful as a consequence. Who would've thought combining two abilities into one (Scrappy and Keen Eye) and giving it to a mon with high stats would be balanced? Probably the same guy who gave High King Calyrex "As one". Imagine if Water Bubble was given to Milotic or Gyarados?
It being a "worse boomburst" doesn't matter much when the strongest Boomburst user is either Chatot or Toxtricity after you sacrifice Tera. If, say, Exploud was buffed to have a Sp. Atk stat that makes sense, then we'd be getting somewhere. But right now, it's a learnset diff.
The tsar bomba (the most powerful nuclear bomb) is 50 megatons. Therefore, gigaton hammer is 20 times stronger than the most powerful weapon ever made.
Ironically, I've actually seen Encore used more as a set-up sweeper counter. Let them set up, encore them, then switch to a pokemon that can 1 hit ko them or has a better set-up
I don’t play singles so whenever I hear the word ban I have an immediate negative reaction. My first thought was “WHO AND WHY would do this to Ogerpon when she’s been through so much already?” 😂
Focus Punch is another butt clencher. Call out a switch or get a free sub up? Enjoy the 150 BP fighting move. Even against physically tanky mons that resist fighting that's gonna hurt.
What keeps me up at night is fighting tera type super boosted attack form deoxys with huge power. All possible in gen 9 and it's rather easy to pull off. A deoxys with more than 3k base attack after being fully boosted with fighting stab is absolutely terrifying.
What really gets me about moves like Gigaton Hammer is that they exemplify how bad powercreep has hit the past couple of generations of pokemon compared to the earlier ones, (which still had it but were more consistent). It's only held back because of Tinkaton's somewhat mediocre attack, but in all other regards is just a flat out better version of what moves like Hyperbeam and Giga Impact go for, which is a high powered move that can only be used once every two turns. The difference is it has higher accuracy, power, and still lets you act on that second turn. Blood Moon is even better because it's the same gimmick, (albeit with 10 less power), on a pokemon that can make use of it due to its high satk stat. There's of course other things that have appeared over the years that are just as absurd, and are likewise limited to specific pokemon, but it's still weird how balance has taken more and more of a backseat over the years.
I believe it forces you to struggle ever other turn until the encore ends. Because you specifically "can't use this move two turns in a row" it's similar wording to how with AV you "can't use non-damaging moves" However, you can bypass blood moon and gigaton's restrictions with things like copycat (seen in certain oms like stabmons) and orangeru as a partner due to instruct (side note, if you run BM ursa with like throat spray along orengaru holding a life orb, you can use the item, then get the orb passed to you for more dmg.)
How about Perish Song? No seriously, imagine how horrifying that is in concept and in-universe. You in range of hearing someone use it? YOU. DIE. And you get the horror of slowly realizing what's about to happen to you and your friends. They even NAMED it something terrifying. And probably accurate. Imagine having an entire song BANNED from use because it actually kills people and their Pokemon, NOT faint them. Imagine not being able to turn off your hearing OH WAIT THAT'S A NATURAL FLAW. Someone could just broadcast Perish Song through the radio in a busy city and everyone who hears it is doomed to kick the bucket. It's literally worse than a brown note, it's a complete song of brown notes. What is the time frame of three turns in real time? IS IT THREE MINUTES? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO LIVE IF YOU HEAR PERISH SONG?!?! The only thing that saves it is that nowadays Pokemon just faint from hearing it and switch out nulls it. But imagine actually hearing it, figuring out what it is, and realizing what's about to happen. The sheer dread.
You know, after they nerfed crit damage they should have buff high crit rate moved, crosschop having 50% chance to miss everytime for a mere 20% chance for and aditional 50% damage?
seriously though what the hell is blood moon. The reasoning behind moves like gigaton hammer and pop bomb was that they were given to weak Pokémon with less than 90 base attack. Then they give better gigaton hammer to a Pokémon with better damage, and offensive typing and ability. What were they thinking
Gotta be honest Astral Barrage & Glacial Lance are much scarier bcoz u know 30$. Unlike the spread moves which other legendaries & Gholdengo have got with their own drawbacks
yeah when making this list i tried to avoid just the "big damage buttons" and choose moves that are terrifying in other ways too. they're def on the list if I didn't do that
Critical hits do 1.5x damage not double. Pokemon with the ability Sniper do double damage with crits At least thats how works currently, iirc it was double damage pre-gen4
Personally, i wish they wouldnt ban any moves/mons unless the format restricts them specifically. I feel that half the fun of playing competitive is not knowing what you're gonna get from your opponent and trying to build a team that can deal with anything... or do what i do and just build a team of pokemon you enjoy and not worry about "the meta" or what have you.
The thing is, people play it competitively. The only purpose of bans is to keep the game competitive/fun. Playing against someone just using minimize isn't enjoyable; it just becomes gambling at that point. Also, in mons, there are competitive tiers to play where you can use your faves, almost everything is viable somewhere.
Unless it's the opposing team. Then thunder and stone edge hit 100% of the time. Just like ancient power suddenly has a 50% chance of giving an omniboost.
@@paulelderson934 it'd have been interesting if the moves were listed after playtests. 80 acc is rewritten as 50 acc, but at least the crit chance goes to 40%
@@paulelderson934 also new effect: they describe a miss as increasing the crit chance of your opponent because I'm not sure anyone has ever survived a turn where their move didn't land
Cool thing about multi-hit moves that I wanted to bring up but couldn’t find a good way to: When boosted by a gem, each hit gets the boost. This idea’s success with Cloyster is one of the big reasons why they were banned in Gen 5. However, with Cloyster now being removed from the tier, some players want to bring the item back in exchange for another common abuser: Volcarona.
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend wuwu mentioned
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend wuwu mentioned
Yes... but technician also boosts each hit of multihits that has each hit under 60
Also technician wide lens population bomb.
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@sinteleon that shit's scary
They just said "Lets give an absurdly strong move to a mon with a shitty attack stat so its balanced" when designing gigaton hammer and then a year later made blood moon...
Gotta make players pay for that DLC somehow
blood moon is way worse bc it has a real attacking stat
It just goes to show that GF never cared about balance.
@@PoisedHD Yah, that's what they're saying...
@@PoisedHDthat’s the point the op was making..
I love how they gave quiver dance to a bunch of notably awful bug types and then went "fuck it, Volcarona is a moth, ship it"
Might as well give Chomp DD at this point...
@@lynxfresh5214 also kinda funny how a move as epic and cool sounding as "dragon dance" is now the baseline for a bunch of other moves that are just dragon dance but better
@@InsertFunnyThingHere Casing point "Victory Dance" that I won't be surprised Victini will likely get in the future.
Oh HELL NAH@@lynxfresh5214
And we see what would volcorna be if it wasn't a shitty big type with Tera
This made me realize cross chop is just fighting type stone edge
I realized that the other day when I was reading the bulbapedia page for move variations and it hurt my brain for a minute
Stone edge is just the rock type cross chop
And while fighting types got incredibly good moves like close combat and mach punch, rock types are still locked into a risky move like stone edge. GF has its favouritisms I guess
@@stefanogalimberti1416there is literally a rock type Mach punch…
@@kachebelka3416 and how many mons get it?
Disappointed by the lack of Scary Face. I mean it's right there in the name, truly horrifying indeed!
In that case we can't forget Mean Look, Nightmare and the scariest move of them all - Baddy Bad!
@@MacZephyrZconsider my shimbers tivered 🥶
Eruption, Dragon Energy and especially Water Spout are so hilariously terrifying in VGC.
Suddenly the game turns into "Target this thing or else" and it's especially horrifying when you have to take into account speed control and Protect
Triple axle is simply insane
Give it to Chien-Pao. It would be totally cool and fun
@@mecha5893 (grumbles in Weavile)
Just remembered the ability Perish Body exists not exactly relevant now but holy shit
Seeing Machamp in the thumbnail made me think of Fissure instead of Cross Chop, considering everything Game Freak did to make sure Machamp could not have Fissure and No Guard at the same time.
Bonus points for Ting-Lu.
that could defo work here too. same with dpp dynamic punch. machamp is just a demon LMAO
I find boomburst absolutely terrifying. Something about its name and the execution of the move represents its power really well.
I wish Porygon-Z got Boomburst. It would make my little heart flutter with joy at the prospect of destroying everything in sight with my glitched sentient computer program buddy.
Tera normal punk rock toxtricity with throat spray and a symbiosis normal gem oranguru is one of my favorite team cores and indeed makes boomburst menacing. It's a gimmick and gets fucked by open team sheets, but sometimes people just don't have an answer fast enough and get steamroller. Very fun.
No, seriously. It has 140 base power, 100% accuracy, 16 PP, has no drawbacks, can hit through Substitute, and can hit multiple opponents at once.
WHO THOUGHT THIS MOVE WAS A GOOD IDEA?! WHY IS IT SO BROKEN?!! The only thing it doesn't have is being super effective to another type, but that could also be to it's favor because it can't hurt every type neutrally except Ghost. Who let this happen?!! 🤣
@@Mr.Cynical FUN FACT! A +2 Porygon-Z (Nasty Plot) would have a guaranteed 2HKO on a max SpD EV, Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Blissey if it had Boomburst :)
GIVE MY BOY BOOMBURST HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO ROT IN NU!
@@thisrandomdude2880Imagine Boomburst Oratoria.
I'm not sure if this would be more terrifying than Porygon 2
If Tinkaton had a bit more attack Gigaton Hammer would be a nuke
imagine if it had like... 135 attack or something insane
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend 135 special attack on gigaton hammer, truly insane
@@twilightsilver6230 oopsies
For the 1 year anniversary we need a power point presentation about ElectricWindGirlfriend power presentations
To elaborate on Machamp’s gen 1 fighting moves:
Machamp has access to 3 fighting type moves. One is counter, which is a whole separate mess in gen 1. Submission is the first option, which is 80 base power, 80% accurate and inflicts 1/4 recoil. The only other choice is Low Kick, which has a pathetic 50 base power and 90% accuracy. However, the flinch chance and better consistency has made it more popular in recent years.
Its utility as a late-game cleaner also gets kneecapped by paralysis, which is awful when at least 4, 5 and sometimes all 6 Pokémon on your opponent’s team can paralyze you with Thunder Wave, Body Slam or Stun Spore. It also lacks the special bulk it gains in later generations, and has a Sp. Def stat of 65. Combined with the oppressive power of Starmie, Exeggutor and Alakazam, Machamp is an incredibly fringe pick, and is almost always worse than Pokémon like Persian or various Swords Dance sweepers.
TL;DR Machamp sucks and is a noob trap. Use actually viable mons in RBY OU.
I thought Low Kick lowered speed.
That’s Low Sweep
Triple Axel with Skill link or Loaded Dice only makes the one 90% accuracy check, effectively giving you a free 14% extra chance to land all three hits (that’s a better than wide lens usually gives!)
It’s definitely one of my favourite moves in recent gens, I run it on all three of my shiny fast physical attackers. Meowscarada, Cinccino and Weavile.
Doesn’t wide lens make each hit 99% accurate? Why loaded dice over it?
@@Oneandonly-xg6iu you do it if you can run other moves that hit a random number of times, like tail slap or bullet seed, effective making loaded dice a damage boosting item and also a wide lens for triple axel.
I can’t believe you hate corviknight
Skarmory wannabe
Me and my homie GigaChad always do our daily clicks for Palestine. Great plug, king
Encore is my favorite move in the game. I love getting Illumise in random battles and just knowing I can shut down all my opponents setup attempts by switching in this random bug and getting priority encore on it. I feel like there's gotta be downside to running encore and swords dance on the same set though, that really limits your coverage, right? I've always felt like encore is a much more anti-setup option than an option to enable setup sweepers, and I've generally used it on more bulky pokemon that want to set it up, heal, and pivot out.
Iron Valiant commonly runs encore + calm mind with moonblast and coverage, or alternative encore + SD with close combat + coverage in singles. Encore Val has seen a ton of success in OU, and imo, is one of the best Val variants to use
I really like all the funnies you put in the slides :)
Multi hit moves were even dumber in Gen 1, since if one hit crit, every subsequent hit would also crit. And that’s not even taking into account the normal crazy Gen 1 crit mechanics based on speed and scaling damage with level or every Pokémon that has over 64 speed has a 99.7% chance to crit with high crit rate moves.
Multihit moves in RBY also had like no base power and subpar accuracy, not to mention you're significantly more likely to just hit 2 or 3 times compared to modern Pokémon.
I really despise the way Gigaton Hammer is designed due to how it contradicts Tinkaton's lore.
They could probably change it with a line or two of code by making it so it ALWAYS does super-effective damage to Corviknight so it can live up to how Tinkaton hunts Corviknight. Instead Corviknight takes the attack easily because of a Steel resist.
They do something similar with Freeze-Dry anyway.
It's another monster that inspires me to avoid such an issue.
either that or give it a smack down effect maybe
Pretty sure the hunting corviknight thing is a misconception, all it actually does last time I checked is hurl rocks at it when it's bored.
However her previous Evo does inexplicably manage to hunt Pawniards and Bisharps so like supereffective against steel sounds funny.
Also give her the Steelworker ability that sounds double funny
Oh THAT'S why it's called Triple Axel
Multihit moves are also very scary in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon where they can and will shred through your health bar with terrifying efficiency
This channel gonna blow up. Keep up these cool trivia videos.
I like how everyone is saying that blood moon is overpowered even though in singles it is just a worse boomburst
Tbh it's the ability Mind's Eye that is broken which makes Blood Moon powerful as a consequence. Who would've thought combining two abilities into one (Scrappy and Keen Eye) and giving it to a mon with high stats would be balanced? Probably the same guy who gave High King Calyrex "As one".
Imagine if Water Bubble was given to Milotic or Gyarados?
It being a "worse boomburst" doesn't matter much when the strongest Boomburst user is either Chatot or Toxtricity after you sacrifice Tera.
If, say, Exploud was buffed to have a Sp. Atk stat that makes sense, then we'd be getting somewhere. But right now, it's a learnset diff.
@@christiancinnabars1402 boomburst primarina...
Great video as always
I will never not be sad about how they massacred Tinkaton. Poor girl has the attack stat of Bellsprout.
The tsar bomba (the most powerful nuclear bomb) is 50 megatons. Therefore, gigaton hammer is 20 times stronger than the most powerful weapon ever made.
Not 20?
@@GeorgeDCowley oops
Ironically, I've actually seen Encore used more as a set-up sweeper counter. Let them set up, encore them, then switch to a pokemon that can 1 hit ko them or has a better set-up
Imprison, Extremly rare but nonetheless deadly, especially when you don't expect it. Mew Imprison + transform is a menace in singles.
I don’t play singles so whenever I hear the word ban I have an immediate negative reaction. My first thought was “WHO AND WHY would do this to Ogerpon when she’s been through so much already?” 😂
because she hits way too hard and there's not many good grass types in Paldea. Tangrowth and Ferrothorn come back :((
Scary face scares me.
Focus Punch is another butt clencher. Call out a switch or get a free sub up? Enjoy the 150 BP fighting move. Even against physically tanky mons that resist fighting that's gonna hurt.
I straight up forgot about triple kick triple axel is so much better. It makes technician hitmontop a menace.
Though the best technician multi hit abuser is still maushold. :P
it never clicked with me that triple axel could be a 120 bp move if all 3 hits land, not counting multiple chances to crit too
Triple axel having double the power of triple kick is a crime
What keeps me up at night is fighting tera type super boosted attack form deoxys with huge power. All possible in gen 9 and it's rather easy to pull off. A deoxys with more than 3k base attack after being fully boosted with fighting stab is absolutely terrifying.
did not expect back to the future reference
I finally got my hisui liligant today but I don't have the dlc so for now I'm using ice spinner instead of triple axel
"NO PROTECTING PRIVATE PROPERTY" i also hate cops
I like the Breloom loaded dice swindler
What really gets me about moves like Gigaton Hammer is that they exemplify how bad powercreep has hit the past couple of generations of pokemon compared to the earlier ones, (which still had it but were more consistent). It's only held back because of Tinkaton's somewhat mediocre attack, but in all other regards is just a flat out better version of what moves like Hyperbeam and Giga Impact go for, which is a high powered move that can only be used once every two turns. The difference is it has higher accuracy, power, and still lets you act on that second turn.
Blood Moon is even better because it's the same gimmick, (albeit with 10 less power), on a pokemon that can make use of it due to its high satk stat. There's of course other things that have appeared over the years that are just as absurd, and are likewise limited to specific pokemon, but it's still weird how balance has taken more and more of a backseat over the years.
Does triple kick also check accuracy each time like population bomb and triple axel?
Didn't mention V-create, 0/10
Technician Loaded Dice or Skill Link Choice Band?
Kyurem black redeemed itself in G9 with loaded dice.
I can't wait until Tinkaton gets buffed in a gen of two.
They should've boosted triple kick to triple axel when triple axel was released. Hitmontop deserves it
is using encore with blood moon and gigaton hammer a useful strat in vgc? as it has no cool down
I’m actually not totally sure how that mechanic would work
I believe it forces you to struggle ever other turn until the encore ends. Because you specifically "can't use this move two turns in a row" it's similar wording to how with AV you "can't use non-damaging moves"
However, you can bypass blood moon and gigaton's restrictions with things like copycat (seen in certain oms like stabmons) and orangeru as a partner due to instruct (side note, if you run BM ursa with like throat spray along orengaru holding a life orb, you can use the item, then get the orb passed to you for more dmg.)
How about Perish Song?
No seriously, imagine how horrifying that is in concept and in-universe.
You in range of hearing someone use it?
YOU. DIE.
And you get the horror of slowly realizing what's about to happen to you and your friends.
They even NAMED it something terrifying. And probably accurate.
Imagine having an entire song BANNED from use because it actually kills people and their Pokemon, NOT faint them.
Imagine not being able to turn off your hearing OH WAIT THAT'S A NATURAL FLAW.
Someone could just broadcast Perish Song through the radio in a busy city and everyone who hears it is doomed to kick the bucket.
It's literally worse than a brown note, it's a complete song of brown notes.
What is the time frame of three turns in real time?
IS IT THREE MINUTES?
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO LIVE IF YOU HEAR PERISH SONG?!?!
The only thing that saves it is that nowadays Pokemon just faint from hearing it and switch out nulls it.
But imagine actually hearing it, figuring out what it is, and realizing what's about to happen. The sheer dread.
TINKATON MENTION LETS FUCKING GO!!!! #1 PINK WOO!!!
No Guard is such an amazing ability
Wuwu mentioned(?)
You know, after they nerfed crit damage they should have buff high crit rate moved, crosschop having 50% chance to miss everytime for a mere 20% chance for and aditional 50% damage?
Attract
honestly every single accuracy lowering move fits here perfectly
@@ElectricWindGirlFriendyus lol
These videos are like crack to me.
seriously though what the hell is blood moon. The reasoning behind moves like gigaton hammer and pop bomb was that they were given to weak Pokémon with less than 90 base attack. Then they give better gigaton hammer to a Pokémon with better damage, and offensive typing and ability. What were they thinking
pop bomb given to a weak mon yes.... but also with access to technician.
Gotta be honest Astral Barrage & Glacial Lance are much scarier bcoz u know 30$. Unlike the spread moves which other legendaries & Gholdengo have got with their own drawbacks
yeah when making this list i tried to avoid just the "big damage buttons" and choose moves that are terrifying in other ways too. they're def on the list if I didn't do that
personally I think scary face is quite scary
I thought u were calling machamp chopped and i was saying to myself how he isnt that ugly… then i realized ur talking about cross chop
gigaton hammer >>>>
Critical hits do 1.5x damage not double. Pokemon with the ability Sniper do double damage with crits
At least thats how works currently, iirc it was double damage pre-gen4
yeah i was talking about gen 2 machamp so crits deal double damage
ME AND MY HOMIES HATE ENCORE
Personally, i wish they wouldnt ban any moves/mons unless the format restricts them specifically. I feel that half the fun of playing competitive is not knowing what you're gonna get from your opponent and trying to build a team that can deal with anything... or do what i do and just build a team of pokemon you enjoy and not worry about "the meta" or what have you.
The thing is, people play it competitively. The only purpose of bans is to keep the game competitive/fun. Playing against someone just using minimize isn't enjoyable; it just becomes gambling at that point. Also, in mons, there are competitive tiers to play where you can use your faves, almost everything is viable somewhere.
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend I suppose that's true, but then what's the use in moves like aerial ace?
@@spook4429 for casual play. Pokémon is a game for everyone, it has competitive elements and more chill ones like this.
@@spook4429freeing up the hidden power on adv dug so you can trap both heracross and celebi :P
Boingus
People swear by stone edge and hydro pump, but 80 acc sucks. In fact 95 acc sucks too, unless you have wide lens or something.
Unless it's the opposing team. Then thunder and stone edge hit 100% of the time. Just like ancient power suddenly has a 50% chance of giving an omniboost.
@@paulelderson934 it'd have been interesting if the moves were listed after playtests. 80 acc is rewritten as 50 acc, but at least the crit chance goes to 40%
@@paulelderson934 also new effect: they describe a miss as increasing the crit chance of your opponent because I'm not sure anyone has ever survived a turn where their move didn't land
It might suck but not being able to knock out an opposing pokemon sucks more.
If it ain't 100% it's 0% ong
Forcing struggle with encore will never not be funny
Neither are as scary as scary face im afraid
No scary face, no glare, no astonish, this video fell off
you're right, im a fraud
First
Also know it's gonna be a great video