How Accurate is FGO's Galahad?
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- How well does Fate/Grand Order portray Galahad, the Knight of the Holy Shield? How close is Galahad's in-game version to his mythological counterpart? In this video we delve into his character design, in-game skills, and characterization in order to determine that, followed up by giving it a grade in terms of its historical accuracy. Was Galahad truly the purest of all Round Table Knights - to the point of seeming inhuman? Find out here!
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Fate GRAND BATTLE
Fate/Grand Order Original Soundtrack I
Keita Haga
2017
Disc 1, Track 14
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00:00 Intro
00:14 Class
01:10 Character Design
02:11 Skillset
03:35 Noble Phantasm
04:45 Craft Essence
04:51 Arthurian Legend
06:43 Galahad in FGO
07:44 Galahad and Mash
08:47 Camelot
09:41 Galahad After Arc 1
11:41 Characterization Summary
12:45 Conclusion
13:43 Final Grade - Hry
fun fact but when they released the camelot movies they distributed a bunch of pamphlets with a few very, very short stories of the knights and one of those had merlin saying that galahad is the most heartless person he's ever met
And Merlin would know a thing or two about being heartless. :o
Purity might not just mean pure of sin but also of humanity as a whole
It's impilled Galahad was a lot like Artoria on the fact he kept his emotions buried deep down to better serve his purpose
@@4wheal i think what they were going for is a paralel
While Artoria tries to be distant and unnafected she's still got her emotions and feels deeply Sorry for what happened, meanwhile Galahad really is heartless, he's pure in the sense that he doesn't feel anything
Galahad is such an important character... and yet he keeps his distance from the narrative. It just makes it even more interesting. It works pretty well.
Leonidas as a shielder when btw?
Fun fact: the prologue for part two confirms Galahad was just outright refusing to help out again.
I think Galahad said that defeating Goetia doomed humanity b/c of the whole Alien God thing. Goetia did say that he foresaw the Alien God and that his incineration ritual did inadvertently act as a sort of defense, if my memory serves me correctly.
France: "We're going to make Lancelot, a French insert to be perfect at everything in the key big story of Britain."
Later Arthurian authors: "Your Gary Stu is garbage, let's make the REAL perfect knight and be better than Lancelot, and pure, and---"
Pretty much. Nationalism ruins so many things. x_x
And and and… a child born from rape? (Slow clap) So much for being ‘perfect’
Tbh, i think the Skill set name (the first skill) was affected by Mash influence. Simply because She is Shielder that was born on the Snowflake Mountain. That's my theory tho.
Plus she was born and raised in Chaldea, which is in Antarctica. She was born in a snowy place where snowflakes would be.
And then Galahad made his appearance and gave Mash his powers in Singularity F, which is Fuyuki City which has the Japanese word for snow in its name (and I do believe F/SN does take place during winter).
World ending events of Singularity and los belts.
Galahad: Meh
My theory is that Galahad isnt actually a organic being he is much like Mordred a Homunculus creted using the DNA of a round table knight.
This is why he seemed to have had the singel goal of beimg the best knight and finding the Holy grail as he was created for that purpose.
The major difference between them is that unlike Mordred he lacked her sense of self and followed along his set purpose.
This might explain why he allowed himself to be summoned into Mash and showed her comparison as he recognise that she is similar in natural to himself.
Even his alter self only allowed himself to be summoned by a Homunculus whitch might just strengthen this theory
Interesting...
@@CrazyYurie There is actually a really funny meta story with the Arthurian legend concerning Galahad. Basically he was inserted as fanfiction to make a perfect knight in response (kinda like a F you) to Lancelot, who was basically a French fanfiction insertion with depicting French Courtly Love. I highly suggest watching Overly Sarcastic Production's "Legends Summarized: King Arthur," which talks about it and the history of Arthurian legend itself. Highly recommend OSP, made it really fun to learn about all sorts of historical and mythical characters and legends from the real world and FGO by proxy.
Edit: I just noticed that this just made Galahad's dislike for Lancelot kinda make sense on a meta contextual level. I doubt it was intentional (might be, who knows), but it does make it really funny for me.
Its completley possible, but i think galahad being a human would be more interesting for me. Specially now that you mentioned mordred, the fact that the one who always tried to be againts her designed purpose and to act upon her own emotions, while the human one simply moved towards the said purpose. I think galahad being human can help the parallels (even tho the writers dont seem that interested on making those parallels between the two, which is weird because a lot of modern arthurian fans focus a lot more on the two)
Oh! Now this is a much better design for Galahad’s inhuman portray in FGO, and his “holier than thou” behaviour, cause he does not have humanity himself.
Happy Holidays! Yeah, with how much of a disconnected ideal Galahad can feel like, I think they made the right call in sticking his powers with another character and mostly trying not to involve him directly. I really like Mash, and part of that comes from watching how she slowly grows as a character over the course of the game. She is a very human character, even if she isn't literally human in the strictest sense. But Galahad is such an ideal, that he seems like he doesn't really have enough humanity left to connect to. I don't know how well I'd be able to empathize with a character that is essentially "perfect"
Finally finished LB6! No longer will I have to worry about being spoiled (at least on NA)! Wooooooo! Also, Castoria's expressions are PEAK!
...(Ahem) Anyways, thanks for the wonderful Christmas present! I've always seen Galahad's first skill as having more to do with Mash than Galahad himself, with Mash having lived her whole life on top of a snowy mountain in Antarctica. Not to mention that said first skill is the only one that changes to being purely offensive when she's in the Ortinax suit (perhaps to reflect Chaldea's mission statement being more aggressive in the Lostbelts?).
Funnily enough, we do see Mash reflecting Salter's NP back at her in the First Order movie. Though like you said, we probably don't have this effect in game because it would be too OP. The closest we have in game would be Bazett's NP, so maybe they could find a way to have it work in game? Maybe have it so the enemy takes half damage from the reflected attack? I don't know, it's just a thought.
We do get some third-hand characterization for Galahad from fellow Arthurian characters such as Bedivere (who says that Galahad was a massive airhead), Salter (who says that the way he uses his powers makes him innocent), Mordred (who clearly doesn't like him) and Merlin (who calls him "the most heartless man [he's] ever met"). I've always wondered what the original Artoria's opinion on Galahad were.
The best interpretation I've found for Galahad's depiction in FGO is that, while he is the perfect knight, that does not make him the perfect _person_ . His unwavering sense of justice can be a hinderance when he places those ideals above the innocent people that he's sworn to protect. Or how someone else put it: "He’d see the trolley problem and walk away, because making a choice could let someone die, which is bad, not caring that his inaction will also let someone die, and ignoring the fact that he’s absolutely strong enough to just punch the trolley off the damn tracks before it hits anyone".
This could explain the "B" scenario for why Mash is unable to fully use Galahad's powers after Part 1, though it's much more likely to be a combination of "A" and "C".
Also, this might just be me, but it felt like you were trying hard not to call Galahad a Mary Sue in this video. Considering Arthurian legend is (in)famous for it's various author's trying to one-up each other, with Galahad's entire character being created to show up Lancelot, I'd say the Mary Sue label is more of a statement of fact in this case.
I was absolutely was thinking about calling Galahad a Sue, but figured doing so might be a tad too aggressive. I don't know if people would appreciate me being so overt with my opinions - especially when everyone has their favorites. For whoever might be a Galahad fan, perhaps I shouldn't piss them off? I don't know. I'm still really new to this CZcams business. I don't know how much people are willing to tolerate bashing of other characters, you know? I did go off on Melusine's mythical husband, but that felt safe because his deeds were so egregious and he wasn't a servant - and so was fair game.
@@CrazyYurie, I think in the case of Galahad, saying he originally was intentionally made to be a Mary Sue engineered to show how awful of a person Lancelot is would be safe. After all, his current depictions may have modified it, but it is his origin.
Plus, this is the internet. No matter what you do someone will get mad and winge about something, so just do what you think is right.
I got to learn that from the origin of Pavarti's bond CE.
@@nkyfong True, but I'm also still a tiny new person on CZcams who is trying not to destroy my own channel, you know? If I'm going to get really opinionated on something, I'd like to make sure it is something I can freely get away with. Going off on Melusine's husband Raymond seemed fine to me, and... I think I might be doing the same with another character very soon.
@@CrazyYurie, understandable. I'm in a similar situation, albeit on twitch. I'll take a leaf out of your book.
@@nkyfong Well, I don't know if I'm doing things right. Maybe it would be better if I was a bit more controversial, you know?
Sir Galahad..He umm failed to solve a quiz that left him burned alive.
He really should have stuck to a favorite color.
Purple was his favorite color.
I think the first skill is related more to mash « honorable wall of snowflakes » the snowflakes being mash with her whole being locked in a antartica
Thank you for the wonderful Christmas present!!
I would say it was a bit of A and C for why Mash lost her powers she probably needed time for a connection to form again after her revival but she also did need to muster her resolve again to face the challenges ahead
Thank you for all your hard work this year and here's to more wonderful content coming
May it flow as easily as water, or something lol I'm being sappy
I really don't like Galahad as a character, he's literally the self-insert mary sue protagonist for some medieval writer. I like the idea that he is so holy that he is inhuman, his obsession with spirituality turning into a sort of self-obsession. My only pet-peeve about Fate's design is that he is wearing black for some reason, while Galahad is quite literally the white knight.
I almost called him a Sue during the video, but decided to hold back. While I didn't say it outright, I frankly didn't find Galahad to be interesting. I wonder how many people picked up on that?
@@FirstLast-hd4oe *facepalms*
@@CrazyYurie I deleted the comment no one will know
@@FirstLast-hd4oe It's alright. I'm not perfect. Thanks for pointing that out!
To be fair, he was designed to one up the existing Mary sue of Lancelot and show what an honorable knight was truly meant to be
One thing i really wish they had done early on in the story was giving us more hints towards Galahad’s identity (aside from mordred saying they were coworkers and that she doesnt vibe with him) was showing Galahad’s faith impacting mash when interacting with saints or romans. Like, we have martha, jeanne, George, and i think they could have give us some hints towards his identity by having mash being drawn to them and/or showing interest to Christianity a bit more. Or have him be hostile towards some servants or a bit more welcoming towards Christian servants. They only showed him being mad at his dad and spent eight years making jokes out of it. They could show him being either hostile or welcome towards mordred. Who is you Know? The one character a lot of arthurian fans and authers use as a mirror or outright have them Impact eachother? Galahad IS interesting and i literally crave official galahad content. But i sometimes Feel like the writers arent really willing to right him that much.
İ believe ajax has been mentioned to be a shielder
Indeed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Galahad's spirit leave after Mash was revived by Fou since there was no longer any risk of her dying if he left?
Meaning we could have Galahad himself as a servant, perhaps even as an Alter Ego since technically he spent years as part of Mash.
No, he's still there, Ala' LB6.
@@aaravgaur7It also exist the explanation that the legend of the first Tamlin (so... mash in the past) gives Mash in the present his power, after all, faeries can make what they believe on into reality and they believed the legend of the first Tamlin.
I could be misremembering, but I think the JP servers have gotten pretty heavy implications that Galahad is still there, but Mash can't draw power from him because she has developed some kind of mental block
Unknown for sure as we have gotten kind of mixed messages, but I think it's more a case of Galahad's spirit being gone, but some of his power is still in Mash but she has trouble using it
@@alycatblues27 Minor correction, but Da Vinci clarifies early on its instead Galahad just dipped on mash. The whole mental block was just herself not being able to fight due to doubts and such
I wait in cautious curiosity for the day that they release another Shielder. Full-stop Galahad, or maybe Leonidas...
Galahad's sparseness in appearance really feels in part a matter of "he's barely even human", from what little you can see of others' opinions (like Merlin). It makes me think of the pre-game Solomon in that regard. TOO perfect. TOO close to the big man upstairs to be able to human properly. His understanding of what's "good" or "evil" is just not compatible with much of what a normal person would be. The Throne would be very hard-pressed to summon something in it's defense that doesn't perceive the matter as something needing (or possibly, being capable of) saving. If he was summoned as a Demiservant instead of being used as a Pseudo-Servant like with Mash, though, it'd probably be another matter entirely...and if people like Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang can, why not him?
Though, said mindset might make his appearance in Moonlight a bit more questionable.
It's highly likely that Mash's skills are her kwn skill rather than Galahad's as the only skill explicitly said to come from Galahad was Mana Defense.
FGO Galahad just looks like an emo Ritsuka(aka the player) with white hair.
Maybe we’ll get his alter version the saber
Love these vids
Thank you! :D
Sir bedivere aka my father: sir Galahad he’s a kind hearted knight but i love this stories but he’s always looking at the grail
Galahad character: he is an asshole even merlin hates him cause he is pure sure but an unfiltered pure ass like in fate Galahad also kinda is presented as an ass cause at the same time in fate the quest for the holy grail happens at the same time as the rebellion in camelot and instead of you know go help his king he decides to take the grail not use it and disappear to heaven. The irony is Galahad alter for the short time we see him in requiem is an alter that is chaotic good because he has flaws unlike the actual Galahad but he also understand people way better and as such isn’t such a huge criptic ass
Merlin doesn't actually hate Galahad. He simply points out that he lacks humanity and can come across as lacking a heart.
Also wasn't it phased in a way that Galahad has such faith in humanity that he dosent actually think they need him to help, and that's why he isn't normally summoned.
Also you do know that the quest for the Holy grail took the knights outside of great Britain and across the sea so they more then likely had no idea what was going on and would arrive to late to get involved.
Interestingly enough, the fact he was able to be summoned into Mash and shows compassion towards her.
The fact that he listened to her when she begged him not to destroy Chaldea and kill Marisbury.
This shows that he is actually capable of compassion and isn't entirely heartless
@@4wheal tbf galahad in his “””righteousness””” comes across as an ass cause of well moonlight lostroom in which he just goes: by the way, give up, no explanation given, I get having faith in humanity but than when u know u could help since galahad knows wtf u the true enemy is doing,just saying, also it comes across as self righteousness and silly when u just preaty much say to people that got manipulated into an hostile plan to give up knowing that it would probably result in their deaths, but than u stop for mashu when u know she would die if u continued to do what u were doing, like I get sticking to your guns but I feel like considering how the other knights of the round are i think it’s kinda silly to excuse Galahad’s actions when u know a lot of them feel self contradictory, i give it to u that the grail expedition makes sense that it would be too late to realize the fall of camelot but again galahad is a knight of the round I get the Christian god told him to do stuff he still kinda broke a oath to his king by just going: yeh I am gonna go to heaven and give up the grail holy grail that I just obtained and that costed me 2 of my companions in arms just so he can be self rightous about not using the grail for himself also if some other knight pulled the same stuff like breaking his own oath to artoria cause a god said so it still would be considered treason kinda feels silly especcialy with a so said to be rightous galahad. In regard to merlin not hating galahad it might just be that I interpreted what merlin said wrong I am human after all I can interpret stuff wrongly, but considering who merlin is(u know the guy that finds loopholes in the rules so he can help humanity survive) I feel he might not hate him but he still probably thinked that he might be wrong in his approach but still respects him cause again merlin loves humanity and wants it to have a good end, again this is what I got from it but I might be wrong. Ps: Also it’s marisbury I just noticed u wrote marksbury but yeh I wanted to correct that sorry if I come off as a bit rude it’s not really my intention
@@federicofilippini6780 The thing is that Moonlight lostroom is kind of in an odd place canon wise as we don't know how "real" the events were as it's set up like a dream.
It's not even clear if it was actually Galahad we were talking to or another being using his image.
The information we get is more just filling in the blanks and telling us the role we played in what will happen.
As for why Galahad wasn't upfront, it could do with the fact that the human order has taken Marisbury's side, so he doesn't actually know if he can trust us.
Similar to how the other factions against Marisbury have been either vague or hostil to us as they don't know if we can be trusted.
The grail quest was actually done with Arthur blessing he allowed his knights to go it, so it wasn't against his orders, so I am not sure where you got that idea from. Galahad succeeded in the quest he healed the Kingdom and then returned the grail to haven, which was the whole purpose of the quest.
His fellow knights were alive when he left, and they gave their blessings as well, so at this point, it's almost like you are purposely trying to make it seem more negative.
I put in another comment, but I actually believe that Galahad wasn't actually human and was an artificial life from similar to Mash, and that's part of the reason why she could summon him.
The problem with Galahad's reasoning for not helping us that he's just plain WRONG. Goeitia had killed everyone and was going to replace us with empty husks with no purpose besides being "at peace" between his plan and the alien god, we'd be in a lose-lose scenario cuz we'd all die no matter what.
The only reasoning i can think of is that, unlike Mash, he actually AGREED with Goetia's reasoning and vision, likely due to his sheltered upbringing, compared to Mash who understood, but rejected it due to her personal experience & growth through the Singularities.
Galahad does manifest as a saber in Fate/Requiem as a Saber... Though manifests as an Alter based off a what if scenario: what if Galahad gave up his quest for the Holy Grail and survived into adulthood
10:33 i think it's Galahad testing Fujimaru, but yeah it's like the writer forgot his own story
I really wish Galahad and GalaMash got more atention in the gameplay and story of the game. They should give "Solemn Defense" to GalaMash, even if single target, and give OrteMash an actual black barrel noble phantasm, not a skill or Habetrot swircheroo (yeah, i dont like Mold Camelot 😢)
The fact we've seen The Knight of Revelation, The Knight of the Shield, but not The Knight of the Holy Grail Galahad
Mmm?
I remember that at one point her shield was said to be "snowflaked shape" maube that why the skill is named that, and thanks for the video
It doesn't really look like a snowflake though... so that's been a tad weird.
Galahad refusing to help out mash, then watching her defeat multiple literal gods with her own power:
Anyways to put some serious thoughts under the meme posting, my take on the separation of mash and galahad post goetia is:
At first, it was more so both Galahad himself talking about how, now that he can see the fuller picture with the Alien god and all, mash and fujimaru supposedly made the wrong choice in defeating goetia. While also it being Mash herself both physically and mentally. We know that her magic circuits were all messed up post fou revival, probably making it a lot harder to stay in her galahad-combat form, and that her resolve was messed up with the lostbelts and such.
After all that, I personally believe that the main point of Galahad not helping mash/not being able to as much anymore is she so to say, become a knight of the round table in her own, or more literally carved out her own place as a heroic spirit.
Just wanted to put my take on things even if I'm 5 months late to the video, good work with it either way!
Ya know who else could be a Sheilder? Constantine. His most famous Myth is "In this sign conquered" which he fulfilled by putting on Sheilds.
Hmm... I'd say he was much more than a defensive fighter though...
@@CrazyYurie I have no idea whether he personally engaged in any Combat at all.
Nice video ❤
please make video on solomon
One day!
@@CrazyYurie nice ❤️
Maybe the snow of the first skill relates more to Mash then Gallahad as she has lived all her live in Cheldea wich is in the Arctic. So Snow is all she realy ever saw of the world and by extension Gallahad himself fore years only saw snow, IF he was the entire time concious within Mash
It wouldnt surprise me if the Lancelot video ends up being over 30 minutes long with how much of a mess his legend is
Uhh... that would be a bit much. I mean, I thought my Morgan video being 25 was pushing it a bit. O_O
@CrazyYurie true, it's not a bad thing I prefer longer videos personally
@@Moon1tan True enough, though they do take longer to do. x_x
Let Galahad cook.
I think what they did with Galahad is way more interesting than what he got going on in the original stories...'cause he's such s goddamn gary stu lol
Him essentially being a emotionless prick is interesting
It would have been cool if you touched upon Galahad Alter a bit from Fate/Requiem. Though because he’s an alter, his mannerisms and characterization would be quite different than the real Galahad
I don't know much of anything about Fate/Requiem, tbh. :(
@@CrazyYurie don’t worry, most people don’t outside of the collab event that people didn’t really like the gimmick for and the fact that the series only has one volume so far that only has fan translations.
great to see your channel growing bigger every video, but i'm just curious if you're ever thinking about going back to the near-hour long videos really getting into the details, maybe as something like and uncut patreon version or whatever, or if you just don't feel like tjat stuff is really worth all the time and effort
I've thought about it, but at the moment it just doesn't feel worth it. Those videos didn't get views like the current ones do. Maybe someday i'll do history-only videos, and see how that does?
@@CrazyYurie yeah fair enough, i know i'm in a very small minority of liking the long stuff, and it's not like this is a downgrade or anything
@@floris4972 I did like doing the larger videos, but they do take much more time to make, as you might expect.
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I don't understand what this means.
@@CrazyYurie Oh shit I just realized I forgot to reply, uh, I like Galahad and they nevertheless have him derping about talking about how stopping Goetia was bad, actually, another in the growing line of characters I like getting screwed over in one way or another
@@Ilanon1569 Mmm... who are the others?
@@CrazyYurie Lancelot himself for one, and I want to like Musashi but I keep hearing "Not Like Us" every time she shows up
Galahad and mash are same. But still i like to get other galahad to servant. Because it is cool to get real galahad not galahad soul! 😊
Hi yurie can you do How accurate Kojirou or Musashi on FGO? I would like you to make one of them. ‼️🗣️
I plan to! I don't know when exactly, but I plan to do both of them!
i think that in some critical point he will take over mash somehow
I hope not.
In all honesty I just want Galahad so I can make this comic dub: czcams.com/video/yQQSNlGx960/video.htmlsi=cThzvHA1pA2QCx5d , apart of my head canon.
While you do raise some good points, I still have mixed feelings about Fate Galahad. Everything about him that we’ve seen so far just really rubs me the wrong way. To me, he’s always come off as just a total *asshole* for no real reason; A holier-than-thou misanthrope with a “not my circus, not my monkeys” philosophy. None of it feels right, he feels like an annoying edgy teenager with all the critical thinking skills of one.
I will admit, this is probably just my bias talking because Galahad is my favorite Arthurian Knight. So maybe I’m just upset because while he might be accurate in the ways that you listed, he’s not accurate in way that makes *me* happy. So maybe it doesn’t matter, idk. Just thought I’d throw my thoughts out here.
I might be biased, since I don't find Galahad interesting even in his original form.