Pre Appalachian Trail Thru Hike - Planning, Job, Budget
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- There are a ton of things to do when planning a thru hike. Am I quitting my job? How am I affording this hike? What's happening with my house and pets? All these questions and more answered in this video.
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Your honesty and openness in these videos is always very impressive. Your videos have been so helpful in planning my own thru hike. Best of luck on the AT in 2019. I think you're going to rock it!
I didn't have insurance so I just got travel insurance from World Nomads. $443 for 6 months which included any accidents and even dental as long as it was something natural, not a broken crown and such. It's kind of expensive but covered a lot including $1000 of gear theft, with some limitations, so I thought it was worth it. Some people complained that it doesn't cover accidental injury while intoxicated but those people were high all the time.
Thanks for the info and I got a good laugh at the end!
I have been watching you for about 2 years or more now and I’m stoked to follow your journey on the AT. Good luck man.
I met a fellow nurse in SC who thru hiked with her brother when they were in their 20’s. She has since married and had children, but I can tell you, when she started talking about it, her whole face lit up. She had such a great experience. Best of luck to you. You’re making great memories✌🏼
Frozen your enthusiasm is contagious. Sounds like you’re being smart in your planning.
So excited for you and looking forward to your journey, Jason. Everything seems like it is falling into place.
Frozen, I am so excited for you and your thru hike! I just wanted to say thank you for sharing this kind of information. I feel like it an aspect of thru-hiking that isn't really shared. I am looking forward to future videos, good luck!
Sounds like a lot of good news going on with you and everything is set for the big adventure that is awsome Jason.
So excited for you! Hard to believe you start time is almost here.
Best of luck. I'm sure you're excited for this adventure. To be honest I'm pretty stoked for you. It is definitely a life changing experience.
Well thought out. Excited for you to start your adventure.
Thanks for sharing with us all your planning for this adventure, looking forward to more planning videos and good luck.
Very good video I feel you have provided a number of thought provoking issues for other hikers. Thanks
Will definitely be following your journey
All The Best on The Trail
You have brought up a lot of stuff that a person does not always think about. This is great information. I am really looking forward to your thruhike. May even see you out there, depending on my own section hiking plans.
HOPE IT ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU FROZEN!!!
Your vids are never too long brother!
Jason! I can't wait til you get back up this way on your hike. When you hit the Lehigh Valley, I gotta spoil the shit out of you with rides, beers, and food! I'm super psyched to see you get through this. Personally, i've gone back and forth this year on gaining and losing weight and i've been far too lazy to get out on the trail much. Hopefully seeing more of your videos helps me get back into it.
Thanks for sharing the mental and practical side of this. Watching people’s videos, it’s hard to picture how someone transitions from normal weekend backpacker to full through hiker.
Looking forward to your journey.
Looking forward to watching your adventure.
That is amazing news on the job front!!! Really sounds like the timing of this hike is meant to be buddy!!!
It was all due to your 12 tips. Thanks Restless One you are the best.
Cannot wait for the trail videos
Can't wait to watch your AT adventure. Love your honest approach that's why I enjoy watching your vids. Take care Cheers Karl
I think this is the first budgeting for the AT video that I've seen. Good Job, It should help those hikers who may want to hike the AT. Thanks and best of luck to you.
@Shaggyman 660 Thanks for the info, I'll check them out... Hey, Have a happy new year...
Yes he and DIxie have been a great resource.
Great job planning ahead! I am looking forward to watching your journey and cheering you on all the way to Katahdin.---Kevin
Really enjoyed this video Jason...hope you stay healthy and can get some good training in.
Wish I would have done it when I was younger. You won't regret it Bro!
Thanks for the info bro,you can do it!!!
Good luck 🍀
A sympathetic company, potential bonus and reinstatement possibility? Thats a great tri-fecta. Good thing to remember is that you can re-negotiate your salary / rate at the time of re-interview. Something you couldnt do if you had taken a leave of absence. This is because you have at least that much added value to another employer if you were to leave and go to them. The financial benefit to your current employer is they dont have the added expense to find and replace, on-board and train a new employee. In fact if you get 10-12% increase or better you'd be able to payback you expenses in the year following your thru-hike.
Good for you. Nice job saving towards your goal. Great example for my 11 year old. Thank you, good luck.
Cool news about your job. What kind of work do you do? Looking forward to your adventure!
It was a really big relief for me to hear this. After feeling stepped on for so long. Shows that they do appreciate the time I put in.
So excited for you to go on the adventure of a lifetime. I wish I could go right now, but I can’t swing it for various reasons. I will be living vicariously through you. I’d like to send you a box of goodies while you’re on the trail. Homemade cookies can be a great bartering tool in the woods 😉. Looking forward to what you do in 2019. Cheers.
do it buddy.we all with ya
Oh young man it is awesome that everything is going somewhere as planned hoping that nothing goes wrong it seems to me that everything is in line all you got to do is just put that step out into the wild blue yonder and start walking Annette trail and hoping you get done quick enough and then you can think about your job while you're out there or explore other options all in all it seems like everything is going perfectly smooth
It's great how the planets are aligning for this. Now I just need to worry about injury.
Really looking forward to your thru hike. I always knew you would end up doing the AT. 😉
Dude! Sounds like you are taking some wise steps. Being a PA guy myself I hope to be able to send (or leave) some support along the way.
Time to start walking!
Thank you for sharing great info and insight on everything that goes into planning an AT adventure. I work in health care and if you do purchase health insurance, ask the rep exactly what it covers...ie...copays.... ED vs urgent care, inpt vs obs stays in hospitals, medication coverage if you have to stay in observation at a hospital, iv antibiotics, diagnostic test copays...just to name a few. Like hiking, the more knowledgeable and prepare you are, the better the experience will be.
The open enrollment deadline for OC was several weeks ago so you will need to go another insurance route.
That said do check the web site though as there may be a loop hole I’m not aware of.
Best of luck on your thru hike.!
You got this, and we'll be following along. I'll shoot you an e-mail in case you need any help in on the Connecticut stretch.
As far as "getting in shape", that's obviously a good idea. But I've seen so many people vlogging their AT adventure who started out clueless and out of shape. At your age, it will probably be more of a mental challenge as opposed to a physical challenge.
Plus worst thing that could happen is you get eaten by a bear. No worries.
Here for the hiking, yadda yadda, but DUDE congrats on the relationship
Hey Frozen , I’ll be starting a few days before you Feb 18th, I look forward to seeing you out there. Halo
Definitely say hi!
Congrats on your attempt! 2019 will be another great year of stories from the trail! Looking forward to yours! Being a fellow Buckeye and enjoying your channel even before I planned my 2018 Thru hike, I am sure your gear is well thought out. I personally purchased my Palace Tarp Guyline Hardware from watching your video a few years back. The Tarp hammock combo worked better than a tent would have for me and added to my success. This video shows that you are now moving into the late stages of prepping by thinking ahead for when you are on the trail. A very wise thing to do! Just make sure you don’t overthink it and allow the trail to provide. As far as insurance, I didn’t have luck with travelers insurance. Great for cruises and trips to Hawaii; but doesn’t match a six month 2,1901 mile trip. I had wife’s insurance! But if I were you, it would be Obama Care. With luck, you won’t need any medical on trail. I was lucky and never needed a Doc visit. I did train more than most and will I started with fourteen mile days rather than 8-10, I still wasn’t quit the endurance athlete a thru Hiker becomes. I would urge your to Carry a pack up steps or on a stepper machine. I would also stress building the chest up because it will disappear on the trail as your legs do all the work. Good luck and so looking forward to your hike!
Insurance is a big one I didn’t really think about. Injuries are usually what takes people off the trail. Curious to see how you go about that one
I will be there for the AT kickoff and then going to do a mini flip fun hike to Franklin and I am taking a brand new hiker on her first ever hiking trip, so why not the most memorable section on the AT. Then I will flop to my SOBO Hike starting 22June19 from Katahdin. So see you in Southern Maine or in the Whites. Word of caution, beware of big miles as your body can only take so much damage. Once you get hurt it is over so know your body limitations and build up during the first 3 weeks.
In hindsight, I’d have set the house up(or at least a room) for Air B&B to trickle a little bit of money in ✌️
Great to have folks to count . what a blessing! Im rooting for and if i was not in somewhat of a financial situation i would definately donate and ill help in any way can when your passing thru Pennsylvania . im gonna write down email address now! Cant wait to watch you along the trail . Its gonna be so fun for you...
Your support through comments is enough to keep me going!
Thanks for your work in putting this out for us. As a guy in his mid-40's who fell in love with backpacking in his mid-30's I can attest that now is a much easier time (for you than later) to try a thru hike. Ask your employer if they would be willing to keep you on the plan if you agree to pay both the employee and the employer side of the premiums. It will be expensive, but most likely cheaper than other options. I would encourage you to avoid having a lapse or gap in coverage if possible. Not only could it make obtaining coverage more difficult for you when you finish, depending on your job status when you back, there could be some legal/tax ramifications under the ACA. I don't know all the ends and outs but I would encourage you to research what happens if you go "hopes and dreams" route and don't have coverage while you are on the trail. These are the things that pop out to me as I look at your adventure through the lens of where I am at in my life place right now. Thanks again!
STOKED!!!!!!!
Knowing you probably will have a job to come back to has to take some pressure off you and you then have the luxury of exploring other options. I forgot to order Amazon through you but will tape the link to my computer because I hate to shop and Amazon and I have a close relationship. I hope Gary can come along a few weeks and am excited for you to start. And I would not go without some form of insurance. I am a health care provider and know the cost.
Never tell an employer that you are exploring other options unless your case to re-interview and get your job back is a lock. And even then, don't do it. Just thank them for the opportunity that you've had, that you're flattered that they would want to re-interview you after the trip and tell them you are looking forward to seeing them after the trip. I have seen too many bridges burnt to a crisp with last moment flippant remarks on the way out the door. Leave every option open. And looking forward to following your hike!
Yeah training is important but honestly the mountains will train you during the trip. I wouldn`t worry to much about the whole "getting in shape" thing as much as the other important things. IMO of course. Happy hiking Jason.
It’s true the mounians will train you.
But if you have a deadline and don’t want to start with 10 mile days, then training is a must to prevent injury
good point on insurance. You ever get any feedback regarding this?
Jordan and I thought about hiking the AT in 2019. Unfortunately now it’s a little too late to decide. Like Tim said above, we might try and connect with you on the trail at some point.
That would be awesome
Let’s go Pens!
well, "cringe" about the joint custody dog situation but otherwise extremely interesting and GREAT to hear you make a good income from your channel, you really deserve it, and sounds like you job situation is equally fantastic.. I've said before i love Your enthusiasm for the outdoors, and it looks like you apply the same positive attitude to everything. Glad it is all coming together for you
Really enjoyed this video. I’m hoping we can meet on the AT and I can bring some magic. Not changing your number right? 😜
That would be awesome Tim. Nope the # will be the same.
Congrats on the best decision of your life. Thru hiking will ruin you in the best way possible 😁.
Last year on the PCT I qualified for Medicaid. Luckily I didn’t have to use it. Many people I met didn’t have any insurance but I know when tax time comes you’ll be penalized for not having it.
I’m trying to be a care taker at a Hostel in NH right before the Whites this summer which is a AT hostel, I may see you. Happy Trails
Andy aka Salty Olive.
I believe there is a law that says you can stay with your companies insurance if you pay the same premium as your company pays. Lasts for 18 months. Will be way more then $400 dollars I suspect.
Hey, maybe I missed it but have you picked a start date? I am doing a 2019 AT thru-hike, last day of work will be the last day of Feb. and will be starting around the 18th of March. Just curious if you picked a date. Great videos!
Feb 23rd is my start date.
Regarding insurance:
Truthfully I abandoned it. I was given a few options via my old job in philly and they were all quite cost prohibitive. In the end I summoned the immortal words behind all good decision making and said fuck it, and went without.
I was fortunate - I never had to go to a doctor. Before I went I had my current doc give me some extra prescriptions (acyclovir) and asked for maybe a one time use of whatever is taken for Lyme (he said call me if it happens).
Regarding fitness:
Man. Nothing can really prepare you for what’s about to happen to you, but your friend is right. Anything you can do to lessen the shock to your body is worth it. I’ve noticed that most people focus on cardio and stair masters and not convinced at all that that’s right.
Were I to do it again, and I plan to put west in April, I’d focus on strength. Squats, presses, dead lifts, hamstring curls, calf raises and such. The cardio will come but having well developed muscles will help a lot but also maybe prevent IT band issues, the ever present knee pain that many encounter
Light weight with high rep count.
This is my current leg work out. If you want more, let me know
Superset 4x
Leg Press
190x 50
Cavles on Leg Press
190 x25
Leg curl
(depending on type of mechine)
50 x25
Leg Extension
(depending on type of mechine)
55 x25
No weight lunges
50 yards
Will your dad help out in case of home emergencies. I always find that something happens when I am away. Sounds good. Looking forward to your updates.
Yes he will
I’m not wading through the 100+ comments to see if this has been addressed. In a past video when you announced your plan to do the AT, one of your tipping points for your decision was your job had run its course and you were contemplating leaving around the end/first of the year. I couldn’t find the video and I’m sure I will be corrected if I’m wrong. If I am correct, it’s interesting you are entertaining an interview, post hike, for the same company. You did mention you are not settling on that option and are open to other employment opportunities. Whatever you decide, best of luck on your adventure and being a member of the AT Class of 2019. Be safe.
Yes that was in my Who I am and Why I'm hiking video. I feel if I can negotiate a higher salary with my current employer it will make me feel a lot better. When I started with the company there was only 16 people and I was paid accordingly, now there are over 200 people and I have not received a significant increase with such an amazing amount of growth. There is a lot I have added to my job description over the years and I know what I am worth especially after being there so long.
Life rewards action
You should look into cobra insurance through your company. Most of the time you can keep the same insurance you have, you just pay more than you do now for I think 18 months. You pay your part and what your employer was paying for you.
You will here this more than once" the last to katahdin wins!"
You did not say anything about how much you were budgeting for the trail? How much each month on the trail.
Pretty sure I said 1000 a month
United health has something called short term healthcare. Might want to look into it
Thanks very much. I'll look into it
@@FrozensAdventures just had to swap out my own family policy. Make sure its available in your state. You can get 30-360 days
Awesome! Thank you for pointing that out. I hadn't heard of that before. Just looked it up and its about $60/month for me. I was going to go without on my PCT thru hike in 2020 but if this is still an option by then I'm going to get it just for peace of mind.
Where do you post/share your PayPal and Patreon?
I usually leave it in the video description. I'm don't advertise it in videos like others sometimes do. If people want to help fund the next trip or piece of gear then it's there.
July re-interview? Isn't that going to put a lot of pressure on you to keep hiking fast? I'm not a thru-hiker so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd think it would be best to have no deadline. That way you can stop and enjoy stuff (e.g., towns, hiking with new, slower friends, etc.) and also have time to recover if a medical issue pops up (e.g., a bad knee that needs a week of rest). It would suck to have to end your trip without completing the AT because of a hard, self-imposed deadline.
(Sorry for the negative tone. I'm sure you've thought all of this through and came up with what works best for you. I guess I'm really just curious about how you made the decision to be done in July.)
No problem didn't take it as negative. I at least have the option. I'm a fairly fast hiker and feel I can get done by early July. I enjoy the hiking aspect of backpacking. I also enjoy high mileage days.
when do you leave for this trip?
Febuary 23rd, check out my AT playlist if you are interested in more details.
I'm now starting to get excited for your AT adventure since Gary finished his videos. You did a great job with this pre thru hike video! 👍 You will need to mention my name sometime in one of your AT videos. I'll see it since you know that I'll be watching.😃 One last thing I started a new facebook closed group called Backpacking CZcams Channels Group. The group is open to the public. Spiguyver, OutLan, Backcountry Exposure, and some others are in the group so far. Only time will tell how well it works out. I did post a pic of you with the LiteAF pack and a link for his packs.
We went with traveler's insurance..best rate
Do you recall the company?
drive.google.com/file/d/1cyXxkLl-qVhmiQjSh7RRNGPdu_J6s8JX/view?usp=drivesdk
Travelex insurance company
Thanks
No problem..hope it helps
Honestly I would say flip a coin, yet I have more than you to wager. Screw it if you do not have a ring, then go for it. Live it for the many that have rings, with "pets" and are too scared to just let go and live life. LIVE LIFE ..... LIVE L I F E.... Get it, L I V E L I F E, please do it for the rest of us...... PLEASE
To late to apply for Obama care had to be done by Dec 15th
Thanks I guess I can cross that off the list of things to look into. I've gotten a few tips for insurance in this video from past thru hikers.
CZcams money question: When I'm watching your videos, do you get paid more if I don't skip the advertisement after the first five seconds? Also, what if I actually click on the link for the advertisement? Do you get even more money because it registers a "hit" coming from your channel?
I would be willing to not skip ahead or click on the ad if you're getting an extra few cents or an extra dollar or something.
If you watch 30 seconds of the video I receive monetization. I don't think skipping ads has an effect negatively or positively.
I enjoy your videos. Despite what you said, I am sure you will not be missing your birthday.
Re: insurance - if your company offers Cobra, you should get it even though it is expensive. Insurance through the government won't cover much, will have lots of copays, and still be expensive, but it keeps people with assets from going bankrupt if they get cancer, for example. I had a healthcare.gov policy in Virginia that was supposed to cover 90% of a hospital stay and I still ended up paying $5,000 out of pocket for a few days stay. The next year you couldn't even buy a policy in Virginia that covered 90%. Eighty percent was the best offered. So glad I am past that now. Young people say nothing will happen to me, but no one can predict the future.
barbara taychert just go without live dangerous
If you want to go to the gym and train with Chris, you hit me up...we will cover your gym membership up to your AT date. He goes to a small, quiet local gym.
You only get to live once.
Delete this next comment after you read it. You guys should put together a video on the 2019 AT Thru hikers and try to help them get more active viewers on thier CZcams AT 2019 hike. Just a suggestion thou from a small you tuber crazy hiker 2019.
This is a great idea. I will work it. ER dis this for the last year thru hikers. If he doesn't do it again make one.
It will be time consuming and it helped a lot of us 2018 you tube hikers. But as long as you keep a schedule of how many updates and when the last update etc. I will be chatting to ER in a couple of weeks so will ask if he is doing it again. Doubtful but it is still a great idea for those that are not able to hike to see all sorts of hikers out there. Happy Trails 2019 mate.
He said in his last video there was another guy doing updates 9n thru hikers this year.