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  • @curtiswfranks
    @curtiswfranks Před rokem +5834

    This guy was a gold mine. He was around for everything. You NEED to have him back.
    P.S.: Please do Prehistoric Planet and Walking With Dinosaurs.

    • @yuven437
      @yuven437 Před rokem +72

      100% agree with this!

    • @sergiokaminotanjo
      @sergiokaminotanjo Před rokem +2

      dont be a fanboy... you are giving cringe vibes to everybody

    • @Franshela
      @Franshela Před rokem +165

      @@sergiokaminotanjo Saying cringe? Cringe

    • @curtiswfranks
      @curtiswfranks Před rokem +138

      @@sergiokaminotanjo: I enjoy learning from people who have a wealth of experience. This person does. If given the option, why would we forgo such an opportunity?

    • @OptimusMo
      @OptimusMo Před rokem

      @@sergiokaminotanjo get your trash attitude out of here. The only bad vibes here are coming from you.

  • @TomWDW1
    @TomWDW1 Před rokem +2735

    You did it! You finally found a CG artist who is willing to talk about WHY their shitty vfx were so bad. And as always, it's rarely about the lack of talent - it's about something behind the scenes (lack of time, lack of reference, etc.).
    This was a fantastic video.

    • @AnthonyMcNeil
      @AnthonyMcNeil Před rokem +104

      Honestly, people with common sense knows that it's lack of time. They did one episode about Endgame and the Iron Man shot was the first shot they got and was the last one they finished. These movies nowadays have such a fast turnaround that they don't have the time to make them look "good". These people who work in the industry are professionals, they don't set out to make bad special effects.

    • @goodjoejoe
      @goodjoejoe Před rokem +48

      @@AnthonyMcNeil That's pretty much why I don't really overreact when a new Marvel property has some dodgy CG. The pandemic thew everyone's schedule off. It was going to have a ripple effect for many years after the lockdown ended.

    • @TomWDW1
      @TomWDW1 Před rokem +50

      @@goodjoejoe True. My complaint is that rather than these companies making FEWER movies and making them look good, they are so obsessed with churning out as many as they can, that they release dodgy CG.
      It must suck for the CG artists working on these knowing that they could do better.

    • @eronic404
      @eronic404 Před rokem +27

      @@goodjoejoe the only movie that has no excuse in my eyes is Avatar 2, it was made from the bottom up with the CG in mind since 2010. 12 years of planning and even innovation of tech just for the movie itself, means their should be no rushed shots, hopefully...

    • @faedraemberhart5500
      @faedraemberhart5500 Před rokem +1

      @@TomWDW1 Just makes you think what would be possible these days if these experts were given all the time they needed to really fine tune everything before release instead of being mismanaged and forced to make shots "good enough". These people are seriously talented but unfortunately everything is at the mercy of the almighty dollar these days. I too would prefer fewer movies that are better written with better CG but what do I know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @EspacX
    @EspacX Před rokem +533

    I love Nico’s facepalm when Wren actually said “it’s morphin’ time”

    • @ringtail5021
      @ringtail5021 Před rokem +10

      it's morphin time

    • @at_l
      @at_l Před rokem +1

      morb

    • @QuixelDio
      @QuixelDio Před rokem +1

      Its morbin' time

    • @jiji7250
      @jiji7250 Před 11 měsíci

      morphius is one of the movies of all time

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Před 6 měsíci

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @messagedeleted1922
    @messagedeleted1922 Před rokem +230

    That T2 wall reversal... The fact it holds up so well in slow motion, and zoomed in, really drives home just how good of a VFX scene it is.

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Před 6 měsíci

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @Born2DoubleUp
    @Born2DoubleUp Před rokem +3611

    You guys have provided a space where visual effects people are actually VERY excited to visit you. It's like they all know about you and are waiting to get their episode 🤣👍 I love seeing all these older guys get showcased... It's like they are finally getting their credit for all the hard work and they get to come to talk about it for once in a none professional environment.

    • @itsmecaldo
      @itsmecaldo Před rokem +9

      FR

    • @rogerargueta5769
      @rogerargueta5769 Před rokem +108

      Giving a voice and platform to those in the middle... not behind or in front of the camera.... the middle that blends both together for the final product

    • @saqibanjummasoodi
      @saqibanjummasoodi Před rokem +2

      Your pfp reminds me of Drake's One Dance

    • @Canislupes7
      @Canislupes7 Před rokem +34

      I would really appreciate it if you would put the guest name in the title or even the description for that matter I tried to look up this guy after watching the video but I couldn't find them anywhere because I couldn't see how his name was spelt

    • @tomatozombie135
      @tomatozombie135 Před rokem +17

      @@Canislupes7 its in the description

  • @SirPembertonS.Crevalius
    @SirPembertonS.Crevalius Před rokem +1161

    Man, to go from the Scorpion King to Davy Jones is one hell of a VFX redemption arc.

    • @dontreadmyprofilepicture960
      @dontreadmyprofilepicture960 Před rokem +2

      Don't read my name!!!!

    • @Ripper346.
      @Ripper346. Před rokem +69

      But... There isn't actually something to redeem from the scorpion king considered what elements they had to work with. Expecting a very good CGI was like expecting to win the F1 championship with a bicycle

    • @cl-l_m5022
      @cl-l_m5022 Před rokem +8

      I will read your name!!!!

    • @TheBigTater08
      @TheBigTater08 Před rokem +3

      Not even mentioning t2 in there

    • @cl-l_m5022
      @cl-l_m5022 Před rokem +2

      I will effin read your name!!!

  • @SoCloseToToast
    @SoCloseToToast Před rokem +790

    Wow just wow! This guy has influenced me more than I ever thought! He's been around for some of the foundations of VFX and this episode felt even more special for the history this guy brings to the new generation!

    • @Iam_Amankapil
      @Iam_Amankapil Před rokem

      Who???

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane Před rokem

      @Aman Kapil are you brain dead my friend? Or just trolling? Because if you truly can't figure out who he is referencing, then you may need a brain replacement lol

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Před 6 měsíci

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @Nakkattack.
    @Nakkattack. Před rokem +398

    This was the best episode in ages. Having guests who talk about the indirect decisions which end up effecting the final VFX (like the stop motion hires for Jurassic Park and the morph timing on T2) is so interesting and speaks to the deeper artistry and ingenuity of visual effects artists

    • @RyanConnell5150
      @RyanConnell5150 Před rokem +3

      15:57 those skeleton T-Rex walking an skinned T-Rex walking animations were created secretly by ILM artist Steve "Spaz" Williams against the wishes of his superiors to see if he could do it. And when he proved that it could be done and look convincing THAT'S when the filmmakers decided to use CGI instead of stop motion. There's a show on Netflix called The Movies That Made Us, Season 2 Episode 3 is all about Jurassic Park. That's where I learned about Spaz.

  • @Sabertooth217
    @Sabertooth217 Před rokem +1189

    I have always enjoyed these "Special Features" with the industry veterans, and for some reason, this one is by far my favourite. I have no experience with VFX whatsoever, but still i was able to follow what John was saying. I would also like to point out, I felt that, John has a very calming and "approachable" presence.

  • @dublin7
    @dublin7 Před rokem +580

    I kinda loved that you addressed the mummy returns bad CGI and followed it up immediately with potentially the greatest cgi character ever created. As in you made sure that while he was being crapped on for that scorpion King shot, it was equally as important to show that this man is capable of ingenious levels of special effects 👏.

    • @langitkensahaja125
      @langitkensahaja125 Před rokem +19

      And that most vfx artists acknowledge the flaws in their works enough to learn from that to progress.

  • @mmersiv
    @mmersiv Před rokem +57

    Had the honor to take classes with John Berton! He is the coolest and most sincere person! Amazing seeing him on this!

  • @chrs-wltrs
    @chrs-wltrs Před rokem +45

    14:30 God, Davy Jones is still so damn good, after all these years. Major kudos to all the VFX artists that worked on him, but I also think that Bill Nighy's performance helps a lot.

  • @cheqers_
    @cheqers_ Před rokem +621

    This veteran is a true storyteller. He mightn't be anywhere near the newest or most complex things but there's a level of lived generational experience and passion in his tonality that the others don't quite have.

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 Před rokem +23

      It's extremely satisfying to hear from someone who was at the cutting edge of that generational technological transition. He's a true pioneer in the literal sense of the word, and his ability to articulate his thoughts and experience is second to none. We must hear more from him.

    • @SpidermanFan92
      @SpidermanFan92 Před rokem +5

      I loved seeing him smile as he talked shop with the next generation.

    • @cheqers_
      @cheqers_ Před rokem

      Other guests, I should clarify.

  • @diogomfreire
    @diogomfreire Před rokem +629

    John is easily one of the best guest corridor ever had. Brought a very different vibe to the couch, and it was incredible. can't wait for him to participate more.

    • @frampton488
      @frampton488 Před rokem +3

      I could listen to him talk about this forever. His input and commentary is absolutely fascinating.

  • @MarcAdamsDev
    @MarcAdamsDev Před rokem +27

    I remember T2 as being completely mind blowing in the theater. We talked about it forever. Absolutely classic.

    • @handdrawnbink
      @handdrawnbink Před rokem +4

      It's one of the only movies that still captures that "how did they do that?" factor. Absolute cinematic perfection contained in every frame of that film

  • @nicolelechman1521
    @nicolelechman1521 Před rokem +24

    The guy in the middle just seems like such a down to earth, nice human being.

  • @olivercrespo2329
    @olivercrespo2329 Před rokem +488

    Davy Jones is probably the best VFX work ever. 15 years later it looks like it was made today. It’s incredible.

    • @skiddzjust1389
      @skiddzjust1389 Před rokem +42

      because they managed to make it look "real", and you can't make anything look better than real, hence even in 100 years it'll look like "it was made today"

    • @snowdjagha
      @snowdjagha Před rokem +11

      I consider the T2 special fx to be exactly like that. They still hold up pretty nicely until today

    • @LofusRose
      @LofusRose Před rokem +22

      It looks FAR BETTER than many many many newly released huge blockbusters.

    • @negative6442
      @negative6442 Před rokem +5

      It looks better than a lot of things made today

    • @gr6e
      @gr6e Před rokem

      @@LofusRose calm down pixar fan

  • @Rubiecat
    @Rubiecat Před rokem +536

    I think this man might be the most incredible guest you guys have had so far, the insights he shared are crazy I learned so much just in 20 minutes

    • @altostreeter
      @altostreeter Před rokem +8

      Yeah, seriously. This might be the richest episode I've seen of them.

  • @JayHiller13
    @JayHiller13 Před rokem +24

    John Berton was one of my favorite college professors! He really does love talking about the work that he has done to try to inspire the next generation. I've heard these same nuggets of information over and over again from him so it's surreal seeing him on the couch. I always appreciated his old school approach and sense of wonder and excitement for the craft. I'm so happy you were able to give him a platform to help him share his expertise with such a wide audience!

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac Před rokem +1

      He seems to be able to talk about his work not in a gloating or promoting sortve way, but rather to show whats possible and inspire to reach higher. Its a fine line but some professors especially in the creative fields definitely cross it.

  • @vippsmillennial6336
    @vippsmillennial6336 Před rokem +62

    Fun fact: The guest of this show played the role of an alien in Men in Black 2, and is one the aliens disguised as a postal-worker where K worked.

    • @rockingkvs
      @rockingkvs Před rokem +12

      I knew his face looked familiar from some movie.

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 Před rokem +7

      Great catch! And now that he's got a new episode they actually showed it and told the story!

    • @ariannasilva4462
      @ariannasilva4462 Před rokem

      I loved the aliens in MIB. They all feel so real because of how kooky they look. MIB design team made an important decision to blend CGI with practical makeup. The aliens in MIB that are “avatar-like” are done practically. Because making an alien that has humanish features that are skewed is hard in CGI. In opposite they made super not real not human aliens CGI because we have no basis.
      Plus the aliens are SOOO creative and unique. It makes them pop even more.

    • @jooei2810
      @jooei2810 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah, actually visualised the scene in my mind while reading this and it sure is him.

  • @mariovonline
    @mariovonline Před rokem +454

    What a class act: the way he owned his own shortcomings in the past. A true professional, a true teacher from whom so many people (and future professionals) could learn.

    • @massetozacarias5693
      @massetozacarias5693 Před rokem

      That's what VFX Supervisors do, mine is like Hades from Disney's Hercules

  • @el_mal_de_ojo
    @el_mal_de_ojo Před rokem +579

    The Davy Jones VFX are outrageously good. Looks incredible even 16 years later, I see those shots and if I didn't know any better I'd think they were from today.

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 Před rokem +9

      Good VFX, of any kind, knows how to use work within it's limitations to make it look good. Looking at Star Wars: A New Hope, there's this great shot of a Y-Wing getting a nacelle blown off and crashing. I thought it was CGI from 1997, but it's from the original footage, still looks great.
      The Dinos from Jurassic Park, 30 years ago, still looks great, as they knew how to get it to work in the situations where they used it, and then got the rest of the way with the Actors and music, the shot where you first see a Brachiosaurus in full still works great.

    • @wmichaelbooth
      @wmichaelbooth Před rokem +12

      This is why the original releases of the Star Wars trilogy look better than the 90s remasters. In the OT they were pushing their limitation but were working with the knowledge of how to make it look good. By comparison the remasters look like Lucas just decided he do anything because it was CGI, but it's not nearly advanced enough to actually pull it off. Like all bad CGI, the remasters look worse with every passing year.

    • @szeltovivarsydroxan9944
      @szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Před rokem +4

      Back in 2007 I was convinced it was mostly practical. That's how amazing the effects were and still are.

    • @Rrusso92
      @Rrusso92 Před rokem +1

      That makes me wonder if it would still look as good if it were made today. I’m assuming yes because of the attention to detail, and if you look at characters like Thanos you can see that if you don’t have time or budget really limiting you, you can make an almost photorealistic character.

    • @newbie4789
      @newbie4789 Před rokem +5

      @@Scuzzlebutt142 you show Jurassic park to a kid now and they will completely believe it's real.

  • @mindbomb2000
    @mindbomb2000 Před rokem +3

    John Berton Jr. is such an amazing pioneer, and what a class act. He never excused the work, but you gave him an opportunity to explain the difficulties of what they had to work with at the time. So fascinating.

  • @TheSuperGuitarGuy
    @TheSuperGuitarGuy Před rokem +59

    Davey Jones is just about the most perfect cgi character I've ever seen.

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Před 6 měsíci

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @kepano
    @kepano Před rokem +812

    Please keep bringing on these legends, the folks who really got their hands dirty making all these amazing films. I love John’s reflections on what he learned with each picture, and how that helped inform the next one. It gives so much more weight to successes when we can hear about the challenges.

  • @akhil__dev
    @akhil__dev Před rokem +346

    Never realised how good Davy Jones' animation was. Probably because I never felt like it was unreal.
    And this person one of the best guest I've ever seen. He's seen the evolution of CGI up close. He explains everything so well.

    • @Ewong251
      @Ewong251 Před rokem +16

      Goes back to the fact that great visual effects are the ones that you don't notice.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před rokem +11

      I rewatched the pirates movies last year and i was astonished that these effects look as if they had been done yesterday

    • @enriquedossantos3283
      @enriquedossantos3283 Před rokem +1

      @@LuisSierra42 yep some of the best ever, better than most modern movies, i read somewhere that studios dont like "perfect" effects, cause effects are expensive and if they are perfect no one notices they are effects, so all that money is lost, so is better to do cheaper more "noticeable" effects so people would go "wow look at the great effects" (matrix, transformers, comes to mind) they save money and get the wow factor.

  • @erictheid
    @erictheid Před rokem +9

    I’d love for you guys to do an entire episode about Terminator 2. I feel like there are so many different bits that even without the ones you’ve already covered (the morph flip, the T-1000 slipping thru the bars, etc), you’d have plenty to talk about.

  • @edsfox
    @edsfox Před rokem +8

    One of the best shows you guys put together! You have to have John back in the show again.. the way he shares his vision and knowledge reminds me of the old good university professors.. :)

  • @andrewnicon
    @andrewnicon Před rokem +1243

    This guy is a really great speaker, his insight and the way he explains his thought processes are just fascinating. Awesome video.

    • @strangernine
      @strangernine Před rokem +14

      @@vvvvgggg why you hating lol i’d be acting like that too if i had someone i looked up to talking about their work with me. go outside and get a life kid

    • @Promitheos
      @Promitheos Před rokem +2

      so good at explaining and teaching

    • @pilotman012
      @pilotman012 Před rokem +4

      Agreed! I was waiting for him to mention he also plays an alien in Men in Black 2, post office scene

    • @winterlock1576
      @winterlock1576 Před rokem +5

      I've been watching corridor long enough (since around VGHS came out) to know that this is pretty much what Wren is like all the time. He is a very enthusiastic and animated person!

    • @tiobetio9501
      @tiobetio9501 Před rokem

      One of the best guests they've had so far.

  • @ysgramorssoupspoon2261
    @ysgramorssoupspoon2261 Před rokem +77

    The thing about Davy Jones is that he doesn't feel like CGI while watching the movie and not concentarating on details you just kinda assume that they found a tentacly pirate somewhere and filmed him.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia Před rokem +3

      they made the tentacles feel natural, so it wasnt a distraction... if the cgi was bad or jenky, everyone would of deff crapped on it. Sometimes the best CGI are the ones that dont take your attention from the scene

  • @BluntBrothersProductions
    @BluntBrothersProductions Před rokem +11

    Two Suggestions for a reaction:
    The first would be the Adventure of a Lifetime Music video by Coldplay.
    The other would be a certain shot from Top Gun Maverick. I know a lot of the shot in that movie were practical (which is an extreme understatement), but there’s one particular shot of a helicopter getting shot down out of the sky that looks PRETTY SWEET for the 3 seconds you could see it on screen…. Anyways just a couple ideas, since I imagine you guys said you are running out of things to react to.

  • @thechad4485
    @thechad4485 Před rokem +3

    Immediately recognized him, not as a special effects artist, but as the upper torso alien from the mail room in Men In Black II. Cool to know it was a cameo for the VFX artist. Makes me wonder if the other guys in the room were also artists who worked on the film!

  • @KazikoWhite
    @KazikoWhite Před rokem +168

    It would be interesting to have an episode purely on CGI humans and how that's evolved over the years. What technology was invented for which film etc.

    • @cailevans728
      @cailevans728 Před rokem +2

      Yes! This would be a good wren solo too especially as a companion to his recent "why caustic is a difficult sim" vid

  • @nothingman7163
    @nothingman7163 Před rokem +70

    Davy Jones in my opinion is the single greatest marrying of animation / VFX and an actors portrayal / performance working together to create a believable character. EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the character design from posture, to stance, to iris depth / emotion, and down to every individual tentacle on his face is animated to match the performance of the actor. There is 0 disconnect between the actors performance and portrayed emotion with the physical appearance and minute details / micro expressions. Truthfully something that even pure live action or pure animation couldn’t have accomplished. This is what VFX are meant to be.

    • @sVieira151
      @sVieira151 Před rokem +2

      Gollum walked so Davy Jones could run, and ever since then people have been trying to catch up.

  • @slumbynature4557
    @slumbynature4557 Před rokem +8

    One of the things that has always impressed me was how well they did Robert Patrick. He has a very unique shape to his ears that I would imagine would be hard to render due to them coming out and up to a point, but they morphed it perfectly just like his fingers. I always wondered if that was something they took into account at the time.

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane Před rokem

      I guarantee you there was at least one FX Artist working on T2 who was working on Robert Patrick's ears and specifically said "Fuck this guys ears" at some point after having to manually account for them for the 27th time lol

  • @Agin56
    @Agin56 Před rokem +5

    This is awesome! My dad and John grew up together and were best friends throughout their years together in school. Growing up my dad and I would always watch different movies that John was involved in and wait to see his name in the credits. This was always a big moment for my dad. Thank you for interviewing one of the original pioneers of visual effects. More John!!

  • @MultiSkiptracer
    @MultiSkiptracer Před rokem +303

    78 episodes in and these are still offering amazing insights into the industry with wonderfully qualified special guests that really contribute to the discussion. Great stuff.

    • @smokenova
      @smokenova Před rokem +2

      Thats 78 of just CGI. I love the entire CGI, Animation & Stuntmen series.

  • @Vixikats
    @Vixikats Před rokem +118

    This series has almost become a really awesome way of interviewing heroes and makers in the film industry and I'm all here for it. What started out as just watching a bunch of CGI clips and reacting to them has become this very awesome series where some really amazing people in the industry gets to teach us little nuggets of wisdom and I'm here for 100 more episodes.

    • @ChronoMune
      @ChronoMune Před rokem +1

      Sorry you won’t make it for 101 man 😔

  • @brandonthompson13
    @brandonthompson13 Před rokem +6

    Bring John Berton Jr. back, please!!! I agree, he is a gold mine on VFX and made this episode a joy to watch.

  • @gauthiervieira9135
    @gauthiervieira9135 Před rokem

    On the Jurassic Park stuff : Kudos to John Berton jr for mentionning Phil Tipett. The mainstream story goes, " oh he saw the computer and said "well, I guess we're extinct now" ". But, as Berton put it, he kept working a lot in movies afterwards because his animating skill were very much needed ! So there is this puppet rig that I love, to mo-cap stopmotion (what a genius idea). What he also did, was to take all the CG crew, who weren't animators, and had them take theater and mime classes, and had them goof around with their arms tuck in to their shirt like dinos, for a couple of weeks, so they could feel their weight balance change, jumping around and acting the scenes. You can see all of it on the BR extras, and it is bloody amazing. It all comes back to disney animators having mirrors on their drawing station for reference. I love it.

  • @DiscipleshipSam
    @DiscipleshipSam Před rokem +37

    The moment I started watching this I thought: “That is the actor from the Men in Black Mailroom scene!” to then find out that he was but so much more known in the VFX world.

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus Před rokem +154

    My thanks to John for all his great work, especially on T2. Blew my mind back then as a kid and still adore it today. Truly one of the highlights of my life experience. I also saw Mummy 2 back then and I gotta say expectations were much different back then and it didn't even come across as lackluster until much later when we began to see high quality human faces. We were playing Half-Life 1 and literally saw blocks of cube as human heads on a daily basis. You can only measure based over previous best. The ceiling wasn't high.

    • @valaramchaudhary3216
      @valaramchaudhary3216 Před rokem +10

      My first reaction of Mummy scene was : 'This looks so real'. 🤣 when you go from ps2 graphics to this.

    • @TheMetroidblade
      @TheMetroidblade Před rokem +1

      Yeah it wasn’t until years later rewatching that I was like oh no that’s what that looks like? I was still playing game boy and ff7 and stuff. It didn’t look bad back then

  • @shaymas87
    @shaymas87 Před rokem +3

    When someone who is truly passionate about a topic and is allowed to talk freely about what they love it's very hard not to get engrossed in what they are saying regardless of your own personal level of knowledge . Thanks Corridor Crew for yet again introducing us to the genius behind the entertainment.

  • @thisonecrazykid
    @thisonecrazykid Před rokem +1

    The way John spoke about each shot and his fellow artists that helped him for every piece of work, this is definitely a man thats passionate about his work and takes inspiration and awe from his fellow artists, I hope he continues to do what he loves

  • @willowjohnson8553
    @willowjohnson8553 Před rokem +48

    Him having worked on JUST T2 would have been mindblowing, but then John just kept!!!!!! bringing up more BENCHMARK projects!!! Was losing my mind this entire episode, thanks boys

  • @JaredPlotts
    @JaredPlotts Před rokem +139

    As an eight year old, seeing Willow, and that morph shot, fundamentally altered the course of my life.
    No effect you've seen today has blown your mind open the way that Willow effect did back in the day.
    Truly groundbreaking stuff and in the pantheon of vfx history.
    Thanks so much guys for doing these films in particular.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia Před rokem +3

      I think i was around 8 when i first saw Willow back in the 90s... loved the movie (although i never really knew many friends who watched it). Im hoping the new Willow series has that magical feeling that the movie once had

    • @thestarseeker8196
      @thestarseeker8196 Před rokem

      That shot is still up there with the best morphing I’ve ever ever seen, Raziel from 🐢 to 🐅 to 👵🏻 is just *clean*

  • @mattdubya
    @mattdubya Před rokem

    This is 100% fascinating. I really love the explanations along with the background visuals. Please pass along my thanks to Mr. Berton for his time on the couch.

  • @anthonymcgrath
    @anthonymcgrath Před rokem +1

    omfg how have i only just seen this and the other John Berton Jr. video - you lucky SOB's getting to meet this absolute legend!!!
    this was fantastic esp to hear him talk about the T1000 morphing front-to-back shot - that and walking through the jail bars are still some of the greatest film moments ever - pure brilliance

  • @Carterficial
    @Carterficial Před rokem +75

    You guys should try to get John Gaeta on here. He was VFX supervisor on The Matrix trilogy. I'd love a VFX dissection of those movies from someone who worked on them.

  • @Luka2000_
    @Luka2000_ Před rokem +207

    After 31 years terminator 2 still has incredible visuals that have stood the test of time and it's amazing how they did it

  • @joshrubak9110
    @joshrubak9110 Před rokem +2

    I LOVED how he walked through the improvements from specific movie to specific movie.

  • @TheOthersparktank
    @TheOthersparktank Před rokem

    This was absolutely thrilling! I really love the look into old projects and the steps taken throughout the industry to the places where are now. Willow was amazing when I first watched it and just learning how the process was approached had the inner child in me in wonder all over again. I can't get over the ingenuity to accomplish what has been done in so many of my favorite movies.

  • @instxnt
    @instxnt Před rokem +4

    You can tell just how excited John is to talk about these scenes and his energy is so infectious throughout

  • @gevillgar
    @gevillgar Před rokem +397

    C'mon man, that "It's morphing time" joke was right there, no way Wren could miss it. I actually would have complained if he hadn't said it. XD

    • @HelloTardis
      @HelloTardis Před rokem +11

      Yeah but….you spent so much time wondering if Wren COULD make a Morphing Time Joke….but you never stopped to ask yourself, if Wren SHOULD make a Morphing Time Joke…
      Must go faster, must go faster, The fly, goldblum.

    • @patrickjorda5523
      @patrickjorda5523 Před rokem

      He's too old for that...

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Před rokem +1

      @Don't read profile photo Sod off.

    • @DaviAreias
      @DaviAreias Před rokem +1

      We all know he actually meant “it’s morbin time”

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus Před rokem +1

      I loved the part when John morbed all over them.

  • @Quezonol
    @Quezonol Před 10 měsíci

    I have been watching your React videos for the past couple of weeks. This video of the insight from John Berton Jr. is like the ultimate behind the scenes explanation of the work done to make movie magic.

  • @TurtleForged
    @TurtleForged Před rokem

    What a WONDERFUL guest! John was incredibly insightful and informative while also ensuring his explanations were easy to follow along with. And great visual aids too! Can't get enough of these videos!

  • @Wazupeth
    @Wazupeth Před rokem +6

    Maan what a legend. One of the OGs. Guys like him paved the vfx way and created tools for next generations. Please bring him and other pioneers as often as possible. Great watch as always

  • @mikekohary1075
    @mikekohary1075 Před rokem +56

    He's a good sport about the Scorpion King. :-) And hey, I hope these guys realize (and you guys too), people who know better aren't criticizing them directly. It's all art. Sometimes art works, and sometimes it doesn't. But not trying at all is the biggest sin, and I appreciate that these guys are always trying, whether it works or not. Great episode!

  • @beatmastermayoh
    @beatmastermayoh Před rokem +3

    I'd be interested to see a reaction video with Makeup Artists coming in to discuss good use of make up, prosthetics etc. Don't know how practical that'd be, but it'd be interesting to have a guest come in and breakdown scenes they've worked on that they found hard, or have regrets over.
    Love the show guys, keep up the good work!

  • @StorytellerStudios
    @StorytellerStudios Před rokem +1

    One of my favorite episodes. Great guest! What joy he holds for his work!

  • @KennethDavis
    @KennethDavis Před rokem +34

    This guy is the coolest ever! Seriously most down to earth best attitude of anyone in the industry. Definitely bring him back if you can 🙏💯🎶

  • @achdeuzo87
    @achdeuzo87 Před rokem +48

    during the whole episode I was struck by the fact that his face looks familiar.
    the feeling triggers a MIB memory, i wonder if he modeled an alien after himself.
    anyway, great episode as usual!

    • @LorcanH
      @LorcanH Před rokem +12

      guy in the back of the post office in men in black 2 perhaps?

    • @bartoscar
      @bartoscar Před rokem +20

      He has a cameo as one of the post office aliens in MIB II

    • @JayYoung559
      @JayYoung559 Před rokem +9

      Specifically, hes the alien in the mail room that splits in half

    • @TCO_404
      @TCO_404 Před rokem

      I had the same thing. He looks so familiar. Haven't seen MiB2 so that isn't it either.

    • @carsbykris
      @carsbykris Před rokem

      Yes! Same here! He's the guy that splits in two in the back room of the post office!

  • @devildriven666
    @devildriven666 Před rokem

    Only just discovered your channel 2 days ago and I can not stop watching. You guys are amazing and have made me look at movies in a whole new light, I always wanted to study cgi at uni but unfortunately it wasn't an option due to financial difficulties. I've learnt so much about how meticulous scenes can be from you guys. It's made me want to get into vfx and I thank you for the inspiration. Keep posting amazing stuff guys and yes I just done a comment. Big ups from the UK. ✌️

  • @damianspence
    @damianspence Před rokem +1

    Wow, I enjoy the breakdowns so so much!! The knowledge of the extra bits that went into these insane moments is incredibly entertaining

  • @DerpyDude777
    @DerpyDude777 Před rokem +8

    Davy Jones will always and forever be one of if not, the best CGI character I've ever seen. For 2006 and them working on it for who knows how long before? That is incredible! Props to him and his team on that feat!

  • @okashi10
    @okashi10 Před rokem +131

    One of my best friends was responsible for compositing the Davy Jones shot that they always bring up -- especially the smoke part. Everytime they mention it I'm like
    (✨️👄✨️)

    • @alfredogonzalez9420
      @alfredogonzalez9420 Před rokem +10

      that smoke thing is one of the best details ever! love it so much every time I see it, does he know how much we love him for his work?

    • @okashi10
      @okashi10 Před rokem +5

      @@alfredogonzalez9420 Yes, I send him the videos whenever it's mentioned 😊

    • @alfredogonzalez9420
      @alfredogonzalez9420 Před rokem +4

      @@okashi10 yeii good to know, we must protect him at all cost

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia Před rokem +3

      @@okashi10 i wish i knew of the people who worked on vfx shots more, Movies just get pumped out and vfx ppl are tirelessly working their butts off, they are one of the most underappreciated ppl in the industry i feel

    • @silverblue73
      @silverblue73 Před rokem

      @@DeRockMedia actors get all the fame and recognition while most often putting in the least effort

  • @palaxa
    @palaxa Před rokem

    Amazing episode! One of the best this year. Is there more John can talk about?

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 Před rokem +2

    I was binge watching Pirates of the Caribbean for the first time during the AH v. JD trial and Davy Jones was one of the few times ever I thought, "wow, the CGI here is incredible". So much emotion.

  • @Emariess
    @Emariess Před rokem +30

    Such a cool guy. You can tell a true seasoned professional when they can shrug off criticism as part of the job, call it a learning experience and not take it as a personal attack. A lot of creatives can’t do that. Love how he then proceeded to flex and show off the Pirates work 👏🏻👌🏼

  • @tonypang83
    @tonypang83 Před rokem +46

    Hope they do more of these. Special guests who feel comfortable talking about the "bad VFX" and giving everyone an insight into why they ended up as they did. Of course, getting the ones who were directly part of the amazing VFX from cinema history is also good 🤣

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom Před rokem

      I mean honestly most of the "bad vfx" shots out there will all have similar stories. Actor broke ankle and can't shoot. Ran out of time and etc.

  • @Phantoon
    @Phantoon Před rokem +1

    This is my favourite episode in ages. A fantastic and insightful guest who's been doing it from the start.

  • @I-0-0-I
    @I-0-0-I Před rokem

    I’ve only watched 40(+-10) of your vids, but this is by far my favorite. The “worst shot ever” thing is special, and gloriously magnanimous.
    But, this feels like the deepest I’ve seen into the industry/process as an outsider.

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse Před rokem +7

    Could you guys somehow get Phil Tippett and Dennis Muren on the couch? That would be the most epic episode ever... would have to be a 2 hour episode.

  • @docknives3792
    @docknives3792 Před rokem +66

    The displacement effect on The Abyss is still shocking to learn about even after all these years. It's a neat trick that is very accessible in today's world of technology that is still overlooked to some degree. I feel like that bit of wisdom was priceless for visual effects artists old and new.

  • @Scripture-Man
    @Scripture-Man Před rokem

    WHAT AN EPISODE! Your show just goes from strength to strength. This one would take some beating! John fit in so well on the couch, he should be a regular guest!

  • @nicholashockings9584
    @nicholashockings9584 Před rokem

    This video with John was my favourite of all the experts and veterans you’ve gotten in. He was so eloquent, insightful and down to earth. Please get him back in the future.

  • @ItsRyanUnicomb
    @ItsRyanUnicomb Před rokem +34

    Literally the best episode ever. Please have him back. This was extraordinary. So proud of y’all

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios Před rokem +3

    The fact that Davy Jones looks as good as Thanos does in Infinity War (which was released in2018) when that movie came out in TWO THOUSAND AND SIX is incredible.
    Also the shot of the T-Rex when she just takes that step and roars....easily one of THE most iconic shots in all of cinema history. And they kept trying to recreate that MOMENT in the JWorld movies, and it just never LANDED. Just goes to show, it's impossible to recreate lightning in a bottle.

  • @neuffexx
    @neuffexx Před rokem

    I think this may have been one of the best episodes so far, in terms of first hand info from one of the people working on the starting point of all these techniques and technologies.
    Hope we get to see more of him or others that have done work like this.

  • @reikun86
    @reikun86 Před rokem

    It's Morphin' Time!
    I'm so happy you were able to get John. I love learning about VFX development and history.

  • @instxnt
    @instxnt Před rokem +34

    The VFX of Davy Jones will never cease to amaze me....

  • @adriancabrera8843
    @adriancabrera8843 Před rokem +113

    Please! You Guys need to seriously consider doing a Star Trek episode!! You have multiple generations of tv and movies to choose from spanning any and all forms of sfx! I highly recommend doing the DS9 episode “Trials & Tribble-ations” where the modern crew go back in time to the OG series and they are actually seamlessly inserted into an old 60’s episode!

    • @ElectricEntertainmnt
      @ElectricEntertainmnt Před rokem +2

      Seconded! I’d love to see that episode

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 Před rokem +2

      Really good choice. And yes, a trek themed episode is long overdue. They could also look at the season finale of Strange New Worlds and compare the original series' episode Balance of Terror. Explain how the original episode created their effects practically, and how they went about recreating it like SNW did.

    • @danjquiroz
      @danjquiroz Před rokem +1

      YES! Compare TOS with Strange New Worlds. The new show is AWESOME!

    • @KyleJWest-vn9kn
      @KyleJWest-vn9kn Před rokem +1

      Yes! Excellent idea. Please do Star Trek!

    • @maxjenkinson9870
      @maxjenkinson9870 Před rokem

      Yesss that episode is brilliant

  • @benthebomber1248
    @benthebomber1248 Před rokem +1

    That has to be the best episode of Vfx Artists yet John was a treasure trove of knowledge and the way he didn’t even make excuses for shots and how he captured my attention he absolutely needs to return

  • @danielclement2832
    @danielclement2832 Před rokem +1

    Thanks to John Berton Jr. for all the great insider insights into some amazing groundbreaking effects work!
    and Corridor crew, awkwardness well handled - good work as usual. Such fascinating, fun entertainment!

  • @krookedtease
    @krookedtease Před rokem +51

    The animation of Davis Jones was incredible.. and to this day stands the test of time for good CG. I love the fact that the dinosaur puppets were used as skeleton reference, would love to see ye guys react to more puppeteering, maybe the movie The Labyrinth would be an interesting watch

  • @GeneralOsik
    @GeneralOsik Před rokem +35

    This was one of the best episodes in a while! I loved hearing John talk about Phil Tippett. You should try to get Phil on the show! He's done so many amazing things.

    • @ericmlevy
      @ericmlevy Před rokem

      Phil was just on WTF with Marc Maron. It’s not super technical, it’s a good big picture interview. He does cover the Jurassic Park episode where he gets CG’ed out of a job.

    • @jmalmsten
      @jmalmsten Před rokem +1

      As Mad God is finally released, I think it would be awesome to have him come on here and talk not just about that forever project but also Starship Troopers 1 and 2, and his work on the Robocop films. And much more like Go-Motion and stuff like that.

  • @arthurwright9007
    @arthurwright9007 Před rokem

    What an ouvre John has! Amazing guest and an illuminating glimpse into the minds behind some of the shots yous have reviewed and broken down in the past! Incredible!

  • @rayaskew
    @rayaskew Před rokem

    This was the best guest spot you guys have had for a while. John's experience w/ ILM and all those movies was insane. More OGs. Thanks John for helping the Crew!

  • @jdblick1002
    @jdblick1002 Před rokem +20

    Easily the best guest ever. So down to earth and willing to share his vast knowledge from a long career creating some landmark effects in the industry, you could tell they felt honored to have him on the show. I hope he returns on many future eps.

  • @demzre
    @demzre Před rokem +132

    I love these interviews with SFX and CGI artists, who paved the way to where we are today. So interesting.

  • @msemtak
    @msemtak Před rokem

    Really enjoy the videos and learning how certain effects were done. How about a video where each of you chooses your favorite visual effect in any film and break down how it was done.

  • @davidhutchins8144
    @davidhutchins8144 Před rokem

    Ok guys... I am finally subscribing, because of this video. More of this please! I had the pleasure of working with John several years ago on a project that was shelved during pre production. I love that you guys are bringing in experts who can share their unique insights into our industry. ... but just so you know, I am not a fan of the earbud ads

  • @Jonathan-mf3qz
    @Jonathan-mf3qz Před rokem +27

    I'd love to hear you guys do a vid on the VFX industry and how artists are getting overworked by studios all the time

    • @JL-ob3ry
      @JL-ob3ry Před rokem +3

      Yeah, several artists have come out saying Marvel projects suck because they set unrealistic deadlines and expect perfect results

    • @Biring1
      @Biring1 Před rokem

      They would never step on the toes of the mouse

    • @Jonathan-mf3qz
      @Jonathan-mf3qz Před rokem

      @@Biring1 Yes, they have people who've worked on Disney shows and often praise their work (rightfully so) but there's a lot of talk about artists unions and working hours which are ridiculous which I'd really like to hear from their point of view from considering that they are VFX artists but have essentially created their own studio and have established their own company culture.

  • @WokeUpScreaming
    @WokeUpScreaming Před rokem +29

    Every time I've watched T2 with my brother, that shot where he reverses himself always gets a laugh out of us! Such an amazing shot and serves the story in such a great way!

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia Před rokem +1

      thats always the best part of the fight imo

  • @CodyCoonrod
    @CodyCoonrod Před rokem +6

    I’d say he’s 4/4, I know he didn’t direct candyman, but he wrote it, and you can feel him through that whole film.

  • @xRiizo
    @xRiizo Před rokem +2

    He's a wealth of knowledge! I could listen to his stories all day! This was fantastic! Loved every bit of it!

  • @Legend-nb5kt
    @Legend-nb5kt Před rokem +126

    Fun fact: John Berton not only worked on MIB 2, but was also one of the aliens in the post office scene!

    • @ArslanSagin
      @ArslanSagin Před rokem +32

      i saw his face and i knew i saw him somewhere. He mentioned MIB 2 and bingo! The mailman with halfbody.

    • @terriblej6107
      @terriblej6107 Před rokem +6

      I was just thinking this, had to check the comment to see if I was right

    • @PANZER69
      @PANZER69 Před rokem +8

      yes! i was looking for this comment xD

    • @damianmayo3174
      @damianmayo3174 Před rokem +2

      Yep i was gunna say it if someone didn't lol

    • @teruphoto
      @teruphoto Před rokem +5

      THAT'S where I recognize him from. Thanks!

  • @jeffpines
    @jeffpines Před rokem +16

    Corridor crew, i just wana say I freaking love this series. Like an unhealthy love possibly. I’m a digital member but I still wait til Saturday to watch the extended edition. I look forward to it every week and don’t want it to b over too soon.

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 Před rokem +2

      Me too man. And this extended edition seemed *especially* extended. And I also watch on here just to make sure the algorithm counts my view and like.

    • @jeffpines
      @jeffpines Před rokem

      @@adamplace1414 yup me too

  • @johnblue5399
    @johnblue5399 Před rokem

    What an excellent guest. Knowledgeable, humble, intelligent and eloquent. Great work as always chaps.

  • @mrmcbeastatron
    @mrmcbeastatron Před rokem

    Best guest youve ever had! Love his insane experience and his clear love for his craft. Definitely wanna see more guys like John.