Sport Science - Episode 5 - Out of Control - Bad Calls

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  • čas přidán 20. 11. 2007
  • Jim Evans, John Brenkus, Base Productions
    Inside look at the difficulties of being an umpire.
    BASE Productions
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Komentáře • 405

  • @ThePatriots010304
    @ThePatriots010304 Před 13 lety +27

    He's yelling at John Brenkus because that's what he went through and all umpires went through...Every pitch somebody was yelling at him...He's not being a jerk he's just giving John the full experience of being a home plate umpire...

  • @Pbiblueguy3144
    @Pbiblueguy3144 Před 8 lety +85

    Remember Kids.. It's where the ball crosses the plate. NOT where the catcher catch's it !.. Surprised they didn't go into that !

    • @386mgar
      @386mgar Před 5 lety +1

      Pbiblueguy3144 finally someone said it was at travel ball game last week and the ump kept calling in where batter was I’m like yo cause he’s standing in very back of the box doesn’t mean the zone changes

    • @dangelo1369
      @dangelo1369 Před 3 lety

      Not only that, but catchers frame pitches in order to influence the call. Plus,umpires must have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules in order to enforce them and to maintain order on the field.

  • @mimack2000
    @mimack2000 Před 10 lety +49

    The people calling Jim Evans a 'dick' or whatever crack me up. Jim Evans is one of the most highly regarded umpires in MLB. And until just recently, he trained almost every single umpire in MLB. He'll be nominated to the hall of fame.

    • @vpartha23
      @vpartha23 Před 7 lety +5

      I just met him last week. Unbelievably knowledgeable guy, has some of the craziest stories youll ever hear too. People are dumb lol

  • @darksideseem
    @darksideseem Před 16 lety +12

    "There's over 300 pitches in a game, and you're expected to get every single one of them right."
    God, that sucks.

  • @steven3812
    @steven3812 Před 9 lety +172

    Greg Gibson. The home plate umpire. Motioning to both players....

  • @thee.diometry5720
    @thee.diometry5720 Před 9 lety +10

    The MLB umpire sounds like Dr. Phil when he's yelling

  • @austinduong-van6071
    @austinduong-van6071 Před 8 lety +114

    Where's Greg Gibson the home plate umpire?

    • @MikhailKalashnikovH5
      @MikhailKalashnikovH5 Před 8 lety +13

      He's motioning to both players.

    • @adammyers153
      @adammyers153 Před 8 lety +3

      +Николай «Mik» Михайлов as the dogers are celebrating in their bench

    • @peterladas4871
      @peterladas4871 Před 8 lety

      Love this comment and the replies, what a reference!

  • @luisalvarado1377
    @luisalvarado1377 Před 9 lety +28

    Great example so people really know what a professional umpire is and what kind of pressure we handle every game, not everybody can be an umpire or leader that is for sure!!!!

  • @baseballheaven6755
    @baseballheaven6755 Před 8 lety +44

    Can we put angel hernandez in there to determine if he should be fired which in all likelihood he will be if he does this

  • @jaywest4102
    @jaywest4102 Před 8 lety +41

    There has to be a couple pitches a game where they are just guessing.

  • @brockman562
    @brockman562 Před 9 lety +33

    i'd hate to be an ump....they hear it, from fans, players and coaches.

    • @jesusrosales8424
      @jesusrosales8424 Před 7 lety +5

      it a hard thing to deal with, but I mean if you know you're right and you like doing it its the best... I get yelled at sometimes too but I still love going out there and doing my games lol

    • @sjang816
      @sjang816 Před 5 lety +5

      seems like the most thankless job in the world. you're universally hated before the game even starts

    • @tsaggles-1607
      @tsaggles-1607 Před 3 lety

      I find it pretty easy to umpire without calls getting under my skin. I think about it like this: Im 16, getting yelled at by a washed up 30 year old whose kid sucks at baseball. I laugh that they act like them bitching about a call is gonna change it

  • @TeccaN9nja
    @TeccaN9nja Před 15 lety +1

    Youre right. To a point. I am an umpire and one of the first things we're taught is that the game isnt about us. But some let their egos get the best of them because they are needed for the game.

  • @sr92243
    @sr92243 Před 15 lety

    I remember similar drills like this when I attended the Jim Evans Academy of Professional Umpiring in 1993 in Florida. Awesome Memories.

  • @sircrazykings
    @sircrazykings Před 11 lety

    he is showing what umpires go through. And proving how important every little thing they do is.

  • @vishaldube5059
    @vishaldube5059 Před 8 lety

    One of the most intense Sports Science segments to date....

  • @311Bambino
    @311Bambino Před 13 lety +1

    OMG!!!! being and umpire is really hard!!!!

  • @dahawkfan17
    @dahawkfan17 Před 15 lety +2

    yeah lol. I love how Jim just rips into him. I've been to one of his camps and I sure know what that's like.

  • @phil1980boy
    @phil1980boy Před 9 lety +20

    LOL! Man, I can't stop laughing. The guy says,,ball??? Like he asking for permission! Respect Umpires people. It's not A easy job!

  • @Bucknellbison
    @Bucknellbison Před 16 lety

    I'm glad sports science did this, I umpire a lot and its not as easy as it looks.

  • @Tonnymkd21
    @Tonnymkd21 Před 16 lety

    I love this show

  • @danvap1
    @danvap1 Před 11 lety +2

    Not bashing on the difficulty of the job at all, but they kept saying "300 or 320 split -second decisions" Throw out all the pitches that are swung at, or put in play. Then there are a number of pitches in the dirt or "right down Broadway" that require little if any discernment. Most games have, at most, 50 pitches that really require an eagle-eyed judgment. That's still plenty, and just one could decide a game.

  • @goldwinger5434
    @goldwinger5434 Před 4 lety

    I umpired for over twenty years. It was a blast. I quit the year that it stopped being fun.

  • @maxmiller9716
    @maxmiller9716 Před 11 lety

    love this show

  • @Methworld
    @Methworld Před 11 lety

    I'm sensing some resentment from our friend the ump.

  • @Stopthat375
    @Stopthat375 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm an umpire for junior high league and that's exactly how it feels even for that age

  • @lucassimon9779
    @lucassimon9779 Před 9 lety

    Great video

  • @extremeplatypus9775
    @extremeplatypus9775 Před 11 lety

    yea it may be tough but thats why they are also the best at what they do

  • @JD050996
    @JD050996 Před 12 lety

    the umpire variable still keeps the game way more exciting

  • @Hsuperman18
    @Hsuperman18 Před 13 lety

    Be STRONG, John.

  • @buckeyebryan10
    @buckeyebryan10 Před 13 lety

    @bayoubobby yes he is/was...his saying was "we'll ride you hard but we won't put you up wet." I went to his Academy in Florida in 1999 and loved every minute of it.

  • @Brewerfan1234
    @Brewerfan1234 Před 12 lety

    I am from Milwaukee and we just swept you haha YEAH MAN!!!!!

  • @DP3mo24hofosho
    @DP3mo24hofosho Před 11 lety +1

    I'm about to be a little leage umpire, wish me luck

  • @Ejhekk33
    @Ejhekk33 Před 13 lety +1

    3:35 "You get in the proper angle, proper distance... You should be able to see the ball and call it.... Properly.

  • @TrustNJesusChrist
    @TrustNJesusChrist Před 11 lety +2

    The umpire is trying to look like he is master guru and that his job is super complicated. Well it may be for some, but to bad umpires make a hella lot of bad calls anyway. I still say bring in the computer tech, and use old gramps umpire for a reference call.

  • @hellspree
    @hellspree Před 13 lety

    @makebelieve35 It says the first change in the strike zone was in 1969. From 1887 to 1969 is almost 100 years, but certainly not over.

  • @hernandez388560
    @hernandez388560 Před 11 lety

    we got a badass over here !

  • @umpire20
    @umpire20 Před 16 lety

    Maybe this will show our view and what we see and hear.

  • @Ghostrider6A
    @Ghostrider6A Před 12 lety

    I checked one school, it cost over $2000 to attend, not including transportation and equipment. FYI, That school did not accept Ch. 30 of the GI Bill.

  • @GHUJockmaster
    @GHUJockmaster Před 12 lety

    This is true, I'm a high school umpire and we were specifically drilled in having people be asshats to you. The drill was basically us making a call on a play then having a guy grind us down on how "inaccurate" we were, no matter how accurate the call actually was. You gotta have an airtight conviction and an almost arrogant sense of correctness to be a good umpire.

  • @KettleKorn8828
    @KettleKorn8828 Před 11 lety

    It's obviously always different depending on the pitch speed.

  • @VandZST
    @VandZST Před 12 lety

    At 5:25 I was laughing my ass off because he automatically said "strike" to sound smart haha

  • @Sonomahappylife
    @Sonomahappylife Před 8 lety +16

    How to not blink: pretend the baseball is a weeping angel. Only doctor who fans will understand

  • @arthurtats
    @arthurtats Před 14 lety

    hahahaha 2:18 was funny as hell and even I flinched because of laughter

  • @coulie27
    @coulie27 Před 16 lety

    been an umpire, the game is crisp at the top but every call is fast, tight, and close. no room for error... takes as much command as skill!

  • @carlosfoggin
    @carlosfoggin Před 11 lety

    He's pretty good at it. He runs a 5-week camp for aspiring professional umpires. Getting in people's face about umpiring is what he does best.

  • @gopidugan-henriksen3057

    It's soo funny when the guy makes the wrong call

  • @KingOfKingz819
    @KingOfKingz819 Před 12 lety

    As a baseball player, I get how tough it is to umpire a ballgame. All I ask, though, is for consistency in the strike zone...and no calls like Denkinger, Jim Joyce, or Jerry Meals lol

  • @ca1682
    @ca1682 Před 7 lety

    This ump is hilarious!

  • @wolverinefan989
    @wolverinefan989 Před 16 lety

    Im an umpire, you wouldnt believe the training we go through. The job is tougher then it looks, either way you call it, someone is always angry.. unless its a obvious call. It's fun, but you have to be mentally and physically tough to ump. Tough job.

  • @KodiakBaby
    @KodiakBaby Před 11 lety

    finally, people understand our problems

  • @glinxz
    @glinxz Před 14 lety

    whens the baseball at its fast point...from release or gains speed the slows down? I need an aswer....

  • @isackthequarterback
    @isackthequarterback Před 16 lety

    The sad thing is we live in a place where we take sports so seriously that people can get angry even deadly. I heard of a hockey referee who got shot in the head with a shotgun at his home because of a call he made. I am an umpire and I believe that parents are the worst. Luckily in my league, The coaches are somewhat more respectful and they calm the parents down if it gets to out of hand.

  • @Stinger49
    @Stinger49 Před 12 lety

    Not only that, you have already be a good ump before your application is even accepted. You have to be in good physical condition, your equipment must be the best available. After you finish, if you are lucky, you are sent to rookie or independent leagues. The top students go to MLB minors or NCAA Div II or sometimes Div I. After 400 plus games, they might consider you for spring training games, and so on . . . but people at home think the job is easy.

  • @crazkidio
    @crazkidio Před 11 lety

    in other episodes they use 90mph as the speed of the ball. they use 95mph here just to make their point about the ball reaching home plate faster than someone can blink

  • @xXSeanXx32
    @xXSeanXx32 Před 14 lety

    Looked like the same umpire when they showed playbacks of umpires being hit in the face

  • @DUBZ639
    @DUBZ639 Před 14 lety

    @glinxz the release of the ball is when the ball is the fastest

  • @vumasster
    @vumasster Před 16 lety

    Poor umpires...I can't believe Chavez swung at that

  • @BoukenGreen87
    @BoukenGreen87 Před 13 lety +1

    @Mordeci819 I took the 5 week course from jim and he is an awesome teacher and he gets you prepared for what you will see when you call games espically in high school and younger where "Little Jimmy" is gonna be a major league star one day.

  • @brandonlau912
    @brandonlau912 Před 9 lety

    Umpires got to chill big time.

  • @aarontibayan7287
    @aarontibayan7287 Před 8 lety +24

    That umpire is pissing me off

  • @critter2
    @critter2 Před 12 lety

    i think jim was enjoying that way to much

  • @sharkeatsyou2905
    @sharkeatsyou2905 Před 7 lety

    The stick with a ball on the end of it that Jim Evans used to point at things looked like some sort of sex toy

  • @TheJLJuke
    @TheJLJuke Před 12 lety

    Im a Jays fan this is so true

  • @Jacob-jw8xe
    @Jacob-jw8xe Před 6 lety

    In one sport science episode, they said it took 500 milliseconds to get the the plate, in another they said it was 485, and in this one its 395?

  • @abowloframennoodles6979

    I feel like Jim would be those police people at the jail that would yell at people on scared straight

  • @phlstriker6899
    @phlstriker6899 Před 7 lety

    4:13 how does that knuckle ball just go straight?

  • @johnirvine1065
    @johnirvine1065 Před 7 lety

    as a catcher I don't blink at pitches

  • @FancyGapClawhammer
    @FancyGapClawhammer Před 14 lety

    This is half the reasons fans (including myself) love the game. Nothing like yelling at an umpire, giving him hell the whole game from the stands. And you know he can hear you, especially at a minor league game haha.

  • @grillerdude
    @grillerdude Před 16 lety

    this guy is a really good umpire. don't diss umps when you havent been one

  • @ElevenInfinity
    @ElevenInfinity Před 15 lety

    i don't watch a lot of baseball so this definitely sheds some new light on the subject. however, NBA refs... there isn't a single one that i would not want to see get hit in the face with a fastball.

  • @markymarkbb
    @markymarkbb Před 12 lety

    @OrangeManIce Not really Earl Boykins, Nate Robinson, spud webb damon stoudamire I mean there are a few guys under 6' tall. Being tall helps the average height in the nba is 6'7"

  • @Stinger49
    @Stinger49 Před 12 lety

    Well, if you put your mind to it, I'm sure you can convince the right people to change the traditional classic aspect of the game. In 2008, a survey was done with 200 top MLB players asking about letting a laser machine call balls and strikes, only 3 said it was a good idea. Of all the managers surveyed in the majors, none of them considered that it would be a good ideal. But im sure they games would be very fun having a robot yell out STRIKE.

  • @donhuynh5186
    @donhuynh5186 Před 9 lety +3

    Almost always right

  • @bryantsteury
    @bryantsteury Před 12 lety

    It was pretty clear where all those pitches were, how john brenkus called that one a strike when it was about a foot outside is beyond me

  • @Medsas
    @Medsas Před 12 lety

    lol the ex-umpire released all the frustration that was dished to him unto the show host

  • @blocrecords
    @blocrecords Před 12 lety

    I wish high school umpires were that good xD.

  • @bamiles84
    @bamiles84 Před 12 lety

    John Brenkus has never had anyone tell him he was wrong apparently. =P

  • @RedrunLoL
    @RedrunLoL Před 12 lety

    yeahh that one haha. well, true, that random variable is pretty interesting. As long as they don't take it all the way like soccer. that just kills the game.

  • @9pt9
    @9pt9 Před 13 lety

    @RedSandStudios Maybe they could limit the amount of replays allowed or somthing. If the call doesn't go in your favor you're out. Sometimes there's just so many bad calls too often. Like that pitcher who lost the perfect game.

  • @TeccaN9nja
    @TeccaN9nja Před 15 lety

    Yeah, its the hardest thing to do being behind home plate in a fast pitch game, either baseball or softball. Its not that bad for the slow pitch games, its a breeze while still having pressure due to how many calls you have to make.

  • @nightfly016
    @nightfly016 Před 11 lety

    I think Evans enjoyed taking the piss out of someone else for a change. =D

  • @isackthequarterback
    @isackthequarterback Před 16 lety

    i wish i could have taken the crash course

  • @dahawkfan17
    @dahawkfan17 Před 16 lety

    And another thing thewitness236... do you know Jim Evans? I went to two of his year round clinics. He is not a prick, but a damn good teacher. He knows his shit!

  • @xXEndLessKaosXx
    @xXEndLessKaosXx Před 10 lety +1

    ball?

  • @buckeyebryan10
    @buckeyebryan10 Před 13 lety

    @barfmaster1987 what year did you go to JEAPU? 1999 here....

  • @MarkYoder
    @MarkYoder Před 11 lety

    "Hey Coach... I'm doing my best. If either of us were as good as we think we are, neither of us would be in a 5th grade game."

  • @ijamhxc4him09
    @ijamhxc4him09 Před 12 lety

    yeaaaaa man, go Nats!!

  • @FlyingMrRyan
    @FlyingMrRyan Před 11 lety

    that episode meant a 90 mph fastball

  • @heiltecn9ne
    @heiltecn9ne Před 9 lety

    haha I have taken some pretty monsterous bruises back behind the plate, but its all int he love of the game!

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 Před 6 lety

    The strike zone tampering was to allow more hits for ratings in a game controlled by defense. Never cared for the 'power hitting' as getting on base wins games.

  • @skywarp34100
    @skywarp34100 Před 11 lety

    that episode said it was a 90 mph not a 95 mph ball

  • @MrNMSaint
    @MrNMSaint Před 11 lety

    That rule change in '88 bringing the top of the strikezone down sucks. Should be from the letters on the uniform to the bottom of the knee.

  • @skaterbouyheisheckac
    @skaterbouyheisheckac Před 13 lety

    i think catchers should wear some kinda helmet cam in the mlb.. idk about u guys but i think thatd be awesome!

  • @JD050996
    @JD050996 Před 12 lety

    the guy that almost threw a perfect game? i assume you mean Armando Galarraga? and it was a play at 1st where the runner was out and Jim Joyce, the ump, called him safe. and i agree that having instant replay for that would have given him a perfect game, but the thing people remember best is the blown call. if they would have gotten it right his perfect game would have been long forgotten. the bad call gave his "perfect game" a unique outcome like none other

  • @bfcfan3064
    @bfcfan3064 Před 8 lety

    I feel like at first they were joking around with being mean,then it looked like he was pissed off,and at the end it was ok

  • @JBpaperstacks123
    @JBpaperstacks123 Před 9 lety

    He called a lot of balls strikes and vice versa

  • @TalkLAsports
    @TalkLAsports Před 14 lety

    @redverter They can see with the little eye opening in the mask it doesn't cover there eyes

  • @colinchatman6272
    @colinchatman6272 Před 6 lety

    Bro CHILL

  • @Stinger49
    @Stinger49 Před 12 lety

    Oh my friend, they do get removed . . . all the time. Every play, every pitch . . . they have someone evaluating their work and it will never be perfect. Umpire academy is no joke either they get drilled there harder than than anywhere else. They have to pay to go too, and it isn't cheap. MLB umps get 94 to 96 percent of the calls right which I think is pretty good. We have 32 HD cameras with supper zoom to thank for making them look bad on the 4 to 6 percent.

  • @hellspree
    @hellspree Před 13 lety

    @baseballstar6784 The fact that umpires "make a decesion that is happeniing reaally fast" doesn't refute the argument that they're the most vilified. If anything, it lends credence to the argument, since they have a chance to miss a bunch of those calls. You think players and fans say, "He missed that call, but since it's a close play with fast action, it's okay"? More likely, it's "Get some glasses!" "Why is he getting paid to do this?" And all team sports are probably hard to ref, period.