Can You Shoot That: APS Film
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Ever come across a strange looking camera in a thrift store that takes a weird kind of film? Find out how APS works and why maybe even if you can shoot it...you may want to avoid it.
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I just found a roll of APS film in my basement and thought it was a smashed roll of 35.
Being a hardcore reversal film fan, I tried a Fujichrome 100ix (APS color reversal film) expired in 2004 and processed in E6, luckily the local lab was willing to help and the result is satisfying.
The biggest problem with APS slide film is finding the correct slide mounts for the format, which is almost impossible. I tried and didn´t succeed so far...
APS is actually a format relatively easy to use. Try shooting disc film nowerdays! Also still very possibel, but much harder.
There are a fiew rules of thumb that you wanna keep in mind if you want to shoot APS film sucessfully:
1. Get a proper SLR camera where you can compensate for the film´s age with a manual ASA setting. I got the Minolta Vectis S-1 this year, an SLR wih lots of automatic settings, but you can operate f stop and shutter speed fully manual as well. Do not use a point-and-shoot camera.
2. Do not be afraid of overexposing your film. With negative film (colour or black and white) add one stop for each decade the film has expired. Most importantly, always add an additional stop to that age compensation for films of 200 ASA or lower speed. Add 2 stops for film of an original ASA of 400 or higher speed. For slide film, only overexpose one stop per decade the film has expired, do not add additional stops to that.
3. Carefully read the owner´s manual of your camera! APS cameras have complex menues that you can most likely only comprehend and explore with an owners manual.
4. Find a lab that can process and print your film properly.
Processing can be done by most labs, but the difficulties come in with the prints. In order to get good prints, you need a lab that still has a machine designed to print APS film. Not only because of the special negative format, but especially because of the additional information the camera writes onto the magnetic data layer of the film, such as print format, numper of prints, titles on the back or the front of the prints, date on the print, colour and exposure information of your taken picures and most of all the correct exposure times the printing machine needs for the print done from a certain negative.
There are still labs around the world being able to do that properly, you just have to make a fiew phone calls and ask particular questions, then you´ll find one. I have two here in Germany, very good and affordable.
If you take those four (relatively easy to do) rules into account, you can get awesome pictures from your APS film. Hope this helps!
Thanks for your comments and suggestions for shooting APS. I love the format and do 5 buck film developing on ebay including APS with a CD for $5. I return it with the film inside the cartridge just like a professional lab.
I don't believe there were slide films for APS. The main reason being that instead of projectors, APS used a slideshow device that connects to your TV, and does quick scans of the negatives to "project" onto the TV after inserting the cartridge. Similarly, I don't believe there was a true black and white APS film either. There was Kodak Advantix Black and White, but I'm 99% sure that's Kodak BW400CN stock, a C41 black and white film. I suppose this was to make it easy for labs, they'd only need to run the C41 process for APS.
Where in Germany? I’m hoping I could find one in köln
@@mewmew1132 The labe I used to use was closed down unfortunately in may of 2021. I only know labs in the south east, around Munic. But many labs take orders via Mail if you phone them. Try Frankenlabor, Foto Görner, Pixelnet. The first one apparently is able to do APS in all its features, they told me over the phone, havent tried it out yet. The second one does pretty much any photo-film you ask for, even the old ones, but I havent tried their APS-Service yet. The third one is a cheap lab, they don´t do much processing of the metadata but at least the can handle the format. All the named labes do digital pronts only though, no optical prints.
@@Dan-TechAndMusic correct - I bought a few rolls of it when I had an APS camera
Hey, thanks! I found a bunch of rolls of this stuff stuck in these neato trapper keeper folder thingies and now I know how to tell if the rolls have been shot or if it's just someone's Christmas pics from 1998.
They were in a box of photo stuff I found at an auction. I almost hope they're shot so I won't be tempted to track down an aps camera.
I guess you have to have been alive in the 80's and 90's to appreciate what was being tried with APS film. For the average consumer being able to swap rolls of half shot film mid roll was unheard of. It was such a pain to have 5 shots of ASA 100 left, but you need to shoot you kid's indoor birthday party with a much faster film. So you just wasted the last shots, so you could put a new roll in. Which you invariably had shots of that leftover when you went on vacation 2 weeks later in the desert where you need slow film again.
It would have been a great overhaul of film tech integrating the power of the microchip age to add many features that the average consumer could use with the flip of a switch. It just had the drawback of coming out about one hour before digital, which added all the same features and so much more. If digital had never happened APS would be the standard now and 35mm would be like 120 is now. Something for hardcore photogs that want more control.
I wonder if APS had been introduced in the 1980s instead of disc film, I think it might've been more successful
I absolutely love shooting APS film and do so with a Canon SLR camera as it is required now days to shoot APS 1 or 2 stops over exposed which point and shoot cameras can't do. So 200 iso gets shot as 100 ISO or even 50 iso.
APS Film is the ONLY native 16x9 film and therefore does an awesome job at shooting landscape photos. I love APS so much I bought everything I need to do my own home developing just like a minilab does it. And I run a developing service on ebay developing APS film at dirt cheap prices. It not my go to film for general photography but it is my go to film format for landscapes. I really wish Kodak would make it again.
How can I find you on eBay and what country are you based in? I would love to test my Pronea that I bought from a trift shop.
How about the Sony Alpha6400?
This sounds awesome! What’s your ebay shop??
Yes you certainly can! Been dabbling with it recently with a range of cheep cheep compacts, frankly was getting a little disheartened And bored, then spotted the Canon IX slr, looked pretty so thought let's give it a go, and coupled it with a cheap old EF 50mm - and WOW! The Best looking, best handling body, and the bright 50mm just gives the old film a boost. Yes there's colour shift sometimes w an expired roll, but bloody hell I've got some really pleasing, distinctive shots from it. Would I wish the same body took 135 instead? Of course! But seriously, the IX is a joy to use - Everybody's who's handled it asks "Where can I get one?" lol.
I bought an APS Camera (Kodak Advantix C700) and i think it’s still cool because it’s rare to find
I found my mom's Canon Elph 2 back in 2015 with an unused expired old - I borrowed it to shoot my day at Warped Tour and I actually got some great shots! I can probably thank the sunny weather for that. I kinda like the idea of shooting on such a dead medium. I'm borrowing it again over the next few months to experiment and have some fun, before I invest in a proper film camera.
hii! i have a kodak advantix F350 but i cant seem to find any film for sale online, was wondering if theres an alternative film i can use?
Unless you received an Index Print showing frame numbers when developed at the store it was very difficult to get reprints as you didn't know what frame number your re-print photo was.
I bought a cannon elf LT Advantix camera like 2 years ago and I thought it was a digital camera at a Value Village in Windsor Ontario and I found a roll left in the camera unprocessed why would they put the film back in the canister ?
Not interested in APS film in any of it's flavors, but I wish some company would revive 126 format. I liked the whole cassette idea of both 126 and 110. 110 had more variety of interesting cameras, but it suffers from quality issues due to smaller size. 126, on the other hand, was a much better sized format.
My first camera was a Kodak Instamatic so I guess I have a nostalgia for 126.
My lifelong love of photography began there.
The more I check out your videos the more I notice you’ve always had your funny reactions and ways of speaking on Film that makes me come back constantly. Your cringes at APS >>> 😂
I have both a Minolta S-1 and an S-100. With a complete set of lenses, and they are absolutely wonderful cameras, i wish I could still get fresh film for them. I also have a canon elph JR, what a wonderful tiny little shooter.
About the most accurate part of this embarrassing post is that, as you admit, you don't know much about APS. But somehow that didn't stop you from peddling your drivel.
APS was developed as a technology that was SUPERIOR to 35mm. The emulsions and grains of the film was far better than existing 35mm film. That,along with processing methods, was why you got better pictures, despite it being a smaller 24mm format.
When you took a photo, the settings the camera used were recorded on a magnetic stripe. With higher end SLRs it recorded more info. So when you took the film to be developed, it didn't just print every shot exactly the same. It read the stripe and optimized each print from the exposure information. This meant an improved photo for almost every person with a camera. It also let you shoot b&w and get it developed at the 1-hour shop (C41 process, the same machine as color film) without getting orange or green tinted pictures.
One other great feature was mid-roll change. This alone makes it better than 35mm. I was travelling in Paris, and in a matter of just a couple hours I went from bright sunlight, to dark churches, to museums, the Metro, and a number of other places. In the sunlight I'd shoot ISO 100. But then when I went into Notre Dame, I needed to shoot 400. So I pressed 2 buttons, and in about 5 seconds my 100 film rewound and I swapped it with 400. When I came out I went down the narrow, shaded Rue due Cloître ND I wanted photos of the gargoyles and buttresses. So I swapped the 400 for 200. Then I even swapped that for Black &White for more architectural features. And when I went to a museum I'd have to shot 400 to avoid using the flash. That many swaps with 35mm would probably take you a collective 20 to 30 minutes, including writing down the correct exposure count on each roll, if you remembered to do it.
When I lived in London I would take my film to a specific camera shop for processing. When I picked up my pictures they would always open the box to make sure you got the correct ones. One day the owner was at the counter, and when he opened the box he said, "These are yours? I was hoping I'd get to talk. What camera and film did you use to take these?" He would do the majority of the processing. He was amazed when I told him it was a Nikon SLR using APS. He said they were some of the best he'd seen come through. I had to give him a little "tour" of my camera.
All of the current 35mm film is chemically based on APS. All the digital pocket cameras are based on APS small cameras - and the little Canon Elph took pictures better than most 35mm SLRs. All but the full frame DSLRs are designed around the APS geometries. It was so advanced versus 35mm that camera manufacturers chose it as the design to make digital cameras.
The only thing wrong with APS was timing. 35mm didn't beat it. Digital did. People saw digital coming, and fast, so they didn't switch over (rightly so). I'm on my second DSLR, but if I could buy APS film and get it processed I'd still be using my Phones 6i.
Just found a "Nikon Pronea S" and I can't wait to buy some film for it
Bro, on your link in description, everything says SOLD OUT lol
I am still using APS in 2020 with my ixus iii
where do u get it, i can't find an unexpired one to buy
Aps was great for non camera people as you really couldn't get it wrong. The cameras were typically fully automatic which is their downfall now, as you can't manually set iso to compensate for expired film. Virtually everything will be under exposed now as a result.
Hey! I just brought a Kodak Advantix T570 on a thrift shop, it has two compartments, one for a battery, the other for the film, I searched the name of the film/battery on amazon but I didn’t find anything. Hope you reply this thanks!
Glad to know I'm not the only one who fell down that rabbit hole lol. That camera in now my 20 dollar prop. All that it seems to be good for.
I swear the horror background music in this video hahaha explain everything about the aps film 😄
So is this the film equivalent of APS-C?
What about the other way around, how can I adapt a standard 35mm film to an APS camera? Is it possible? Can I use an empty APS spool and fill it with standard 35mm film?
35mm film is wider then APS film. You can’t use it in an APS canister or camera
I have a question about APS, theres a roll currently in my camera and I want to take it out because I cant remember whether or not its been shot but I cant open the film compartment and I'm not sure if itd because its jammed or I its because I'm not able to open it while aps film is being shot. Do you know the answer ?
APS cameras will normally not allow you to open the film door while there's an unfinished roll inside. You need to either finish shooting the roll, or tell the camera to rewind the film. There should be a dedicated rewind button, often very small, normally marked with a little rewind icon, sometimes in red color or labeled "MRC" (standing for "Mid-Roll Change").
Hi from germany ! You are super !!! I have seen some videos....super super. But now you forgot something: APS gives you possibility of changing film halfways ! ! ...and has elektronic info about film in cartridge ! ! It was like "a step between film and digital" ....before film disappearing. Important historic I think. Greetings from Heidelberg, germany. Rainer.....like your chanel !!
I accidentally purchased this film last week and when I received it today, I had no damn idea what I was holding in my hands. I thought the film company made a mistake in sending me this but I just confirmed that I did order this. Now I have to look for a damn camera just to shoot this film or try to re-sell it. Thanks for making a video.
What type of film is it?
Isn’t the film inside APS cartridges just regular 35mm film? I’ve transferred the film inside APA cannosters to reg 35mm cameras and shot it.. I just haven’t ever developed any of it yet. It sermd to travel inside the body ok.
i have a aps camera and a few rolls i picked up from ebay. going by what you're saying, im better off sending it to a lab then develop it myself i guess. cause yes, i want to shoot the damn rolls and get them out of the way
What kind of camera do you have? I kinda weirdly accidentally bought 10 rolls and some cheap ass Minolta point and shoot. Still doubting between just using the Minolta or buying something a little better (cheap!). Curious to know what your experiences were
I had an APS camera in the late 90s, and I thought it was great. So much easier to use, so I find it hard to understand why it wasn’t widely adopted. Unless the picture quality was worse or something. Or maybe snobby photographers wanted to make sure the traditional way was maintained even for the people who would have been far better off with this format.
@@kentteffeteller5173 I was intimidated by 35mm as a kid and APS got me into photography when I otherwise probably wouldn’t have. So go away. You’re exactly the snobby type of photographer I’m talking about.
Can I also use c200 fujifilm? In a fujifilm Nexus 20auto?
No, if it as an APS camera then it will not take 35mm film such as C200
@@AnalogResurgence is aps still produced?
@@JohnDought Not that I'm aware of, most APS that you can find now is expired film
@@AnalogResurgence shamed :(
APS was a huge rip off from Kodak & Co, Selling less film for more money and pushing many small labs out of business by requiring huge investments for APS developing machines able to read and write the magnetic strip on the film.
Horrible resolution, horrible grain, and you can't even take the negatives into sheets to put them into binders.
It was the idea to pull more money from users with no single advantage over 35mm. Add a fake selection of image sizes (it just cuts part of the picture, so with "panoramic" you get less photo on your print, same with the narrow format).
APS was the Ford Edsel or the CED videodisc of the 1990ies.
No había ninguna buena razón en los 90 para usar APS, ahora menos aún.
There was no one good reason to shot APS at ‘90, now even less.
APS: just say no
You sound like Toby from the office...
HAHAHA FR
the toby of the youtube photography world for sure
Just my opinion but generally being excited just to talk about quirky or historical filmstocks makes for better content. Positivity is hard to come by and every little bit of negativity seeps in and adds up. More likely than not someone who actually find this video is curious or enthusiastic about this highly specific thing, just seems to me being honest in a more positive way would be more enjoyable for the potential viewer. “Its not my personal favorite film but what’s really cool about it is…” Just my two cents. I just found one of these in my departed Grandmothers belongings and I’m hoping to see whats om it, so maybe I’m a special case. All I remember is the name Dvantix from commercials. I was baffled when I saw this little thing that looks like film, if we were in an only slightly fifferent parallel timeline.
the opinion that aps was a bad system is irrational. you're talking from a professional point-of-view. ask yourself: was aps designed and developed for you? probably not, but you're upset because the system didn't have professionals in mind. does it make sense? i worked in two photolabs from 1996 to 2002 and i saw mostly advantages for the simple shooter. i confess that i also pulled a face back then, but today i know it better. i had several slrs in my life, lenses, used friends' slrs and their lenses, i had a slide projector, i shot slides, i knew how to shoot manual reasonably well. i started using slrs in 1991. so, i was totally into the 35mm system and knew how to use it and how avoid the problems simples users had with operating the equipment and storing the films, etc etc. aps was not made for me, but i was pissed because it wasn't made according to what i expected. i was so ignorant. does it make sense? now, if they had made it with the purpose of replacing 35mm for intermediate and advanced users, professionals, then i'd have a point, but i never learned that was the intention.
Meh this was a bit of a nothing burger video eh.
I used to shoot APS. It was ridiculously handy being able to switch rolls at a whim mid-run with a push of a button. The advanced bit I think was how it stored exposure information with each shot, similar to exif data in digital photography which in theory would allow the lab to develop each shot individually.
The only real issue with it as a consumer (I am not a professional) was that digital photography was literally around the corner so it very quickly fell by the way side (aside from the format being the chosen one for dSLRs with the APS-C sized sensor).
As I just told another CZcamsr, I have had great success with AGFA APS FUTURA and STAR films, plus good KODAK results, but not tried FUJI yet. KONICA MINOLTA was a dud, though. The format is not that bad, as when it works, it works well. Sorry you had such a bad run, but you are apparently not the only one.
aps - awful photo system
I mean being a noobie and seeing contax on a camera that looks nice but is labelled aps.. on ebay.. i mean YIKES! I need to avoid at all costs 🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand how you dislike APS film more than any other format. How is it worse than Disc?
You can shoot APS but why bother? Today professional 35mm cameras are widely available at reasonable prices and there is a wider diversity of old stock film available. This expensive blunder of a proprietary format gambit by Kodak was exhibit A of how off the mark Kodak was with its priorities in the days when digital was emerging, looming and blooming. Film had the edge on image quality so what does Kodak do? Take away that advantage and come out with a smaller roll format than 35mm.... one which you could reduce further by masking parts of the negative area when shooting. The crap plastic APS cameras doesn't even look good on a display shelf, they lack any beauty or iconic design. The landfill is too good for it!
You're the forgotten weapons of cameras
APS = Another Poor System
I hate ape as a film format and I hate that the digital industries are using ape-c styled sensors. Making a digital version of a shit make only a digital shit.