Fender 68 Custom Pro Reverb - Kicking the tires at Sweetwater - Is this better than my Princetons?
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I've been wanting to try one of these since they were announced and my visit to sweetwater was the perfect oportunity.
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The 68 sounds excellent, but if buying one means the end of the Two Princetons gag, then I'm against it!
Best Fender amp in decades. For me, it’s a holy grail amp. It sounds soooo good overdriven (with Tone King attenuator)-completely shuts down the haters who say Fenders don’t sound good cranked. Gotta turn down the bass when overdriven with some pickups (alnico 5 for example) but most of my guitars are alnico 2 pups, and the bass holds together fine with them. Anyone who complains this amp doesn’t have a master volume doesn’t understand that the power tubes being overdriven are where this amp shines.
I own this amp, and it is by far my favorite Fender amp! Sound is sooo good!
That amp sounds really great and it looks like you were having one of those bonding moments with a piece of gear that really works for you - I hope you took one of those amps home
It's such a great sounding, versatile, lightweight, and excellent pedal platform amp! I absolutely love mine, so much so that I'm buying a spare because I couldn't live without it should my primary need repair.
Great Channel, Great Host... thanks for all the posts!
Really enjoyed the mix of jams played on this amp truly showcasing a whole plethora of possibilities if one was to travel back to the 90s and embody the soul of Joe Bonamassa back then but now.
I have one of these and it’s absolutely the best of the silver face line!
I probably could’ve listened to the on-board reverb the entire video. Sounds awesome.
It’s basically a one ch version of the 68 deluxe with 6L6’s for more headroom and a little less midsey sounds. Awesome!
Great entertainment and enjoy the presentation from 60 Cycle Hum
The nicest sounding Attenuator I've heard on CZcams is the Suhr Reactive Load Box/IR.
I don’t know. I refurbished an old Princeton a few years ago, and it was the absolute best damn amp I have ever heard. FAN-TAS-TIC!
BTW: I just got my Azor Reverb pedal from you today! Woohoo!! Many thanks!!
Mine is arriving today. I also have a JHS 3 Series Hall Reverb en route to go with my 3 Series Reverb and Delay. Stacking will be fun, albeit noisy😄
I like my 68 Fender Custom Twin Reverb. The only downside it's heavy (68lbs) but the sound is PERFECT.
It’s a fabulous amp. No design is ABSOLUTELY perfect for everyone or every situation. I have not noticed any significant rattle with mine… I suppose at SUPER high volumes but the overall experience is excellent. I was one of the first players to get one after they were released. I gig REGULARLY with it. It’s an absolute pleasure.
I wish I lived near a Sweetwater. That store looks amazing!
I have an original 65 black face Princeton (no verb, unfortunately). It’s awesome, but only has a single tone control. If I want more control over the tone, I use a JHS Colour Box, which also adds a nice mojo and overdrive capability. It records beautifully, with or without the JHS. This amp seems like it would be a great companion to the Princeton. It would be great to have the tone flexibility and reverb onboard. And gigable. Will be checking it out. Thanks again Ryan, for a great video.
I tried a bunch of amps at the store today, this one was my favorite by far.
Sounds delightful to my brain
Hey nice shirt! Group from my neck of the woods … 🏄♂️ 🤙🏻
Digging The Surfrajettes shirt. Great review.
Sounded very nice. Not the biggest fun of crancked silver panel Fenders, but its a sound.
For attenutor, either ToneKing Iron man or Suhr Reactive load. Choose the one you like features better. (The solo boost on Iron man is very nice)
It's a Sickness, I understand what you are going through!!
Weber Mass is an awesome attenuator that you can switch for 2, 4, 6, 8 ohms, with line out that has a useful eq, and very little tone suck. I use it on vintage Super Reverb, Bassman, Bandmaster, and the new Custom Pro Reverb.
expensive or???
@@soofitnsexy not terribly. last i saw it was like 250 for 40 watt amps
@@splover23 not bad i was lookin at fryette etc all 1000 around
I have a 67 pro reverb and it is insaaane.
FYI, Two Notes Captor for attenuation, especially as inline with -20dB. I was stunned how much I love them and how much I need to use them ...
The Harley Benton PA-100 one is inexpensive, but isn't without an effect on tone that is hard to pinpoint. Scratchy? Hmm, not quite the word. Hollow? Again, not quite the word, but there is an negative effect on tone.
Oh man I can relate to the frustration! I was trying out a Strat at my local shop and decided to run it through one of these. Now I have to get a $1500 amp I wasn't planning on 🤦🏻
Might as well buy it! This amp smokes the Princeton!
Nice Shirt!...I love my Fromel Modded 65 Princeton..& my Deluxe Reverbs.(.72..65RI)
The 68 Custom Pro Reverb a lot more headroom than any Princeton I've owned or played through, much more usable in a band situation.
who would have ever thought a 60 watt Pro would have more headroom than the 12 watt Princeton
@@fixedgear37 40 Watts. The video is comparing the Princeton and the Pro, so it's relevant even if expected.
If you plan to keep using mics for recording than the Tone King Ironman attenuators are by far the best. There are some other options that are better for direct with cab sims and such, but for sounds in the room and with mics nothing beats the Ironman.
I have this and a 64 HW Princeton. Love both. I use a DR Z Brake Lite in the Pro and a Swart Nite Lite Jr in Princeton. Makes them condo friendly
can this compare to the handwire??? thanks
Will the normal Dr Z air break work ( not the light ) ?
Hands down the best Fender amp in a long time. I just wish that they added a half power switch to them. The 68 pro reverb is my favorite but I settled on the 65 princeton due to the lower output for home use.
Could you of just added a preamp like the 12at to make the pro reverb more quiet?
@@Joecuzzi whats that???
@@soofitnsexy It's a preamp tube that replaces one of the 12ax7 stock preamp tubes. This tube has a mu factor of 60, as compared to the higher gain 12AX7 with a factor of 100, and the 12AU7, with a mu of only 20. The lower gain means you can play your amp at lower volume levels, but the downside/upside is more clean headroom.
The preamp gain isn’t what’s driving perceived volume in this amp. It’s the power section and efficient speaker.
You know - I kind of like the amp that is just below the Fender 68 Custom Pro reverb. That amp has a lot of special effects built in and is priced more than a thousand dollars less. The cheaper amp does not have the 6L6 output tubes and the Celestion speaker. I do believe the Fender will be better for surf music. You sure made it sound good. Even a novice like myself could tell it has great sound.
just noticed your shirt. the reason im searching is because i just saw the surfrajettes and both girls were using these live and sounded incredible.
Looking forward to getting one of these. I’ve been lugging around a ‘76 Fender Twin Reverb since the age of 18. 80 lbs of sweet tone but now that I’m in my early 50’s, not so cool about the weight. In fact, we have a gig tomorrow night at an upstairs venue and I’m not looking forward to those steps.
Amos Garret said the older he gets the smaller his amps get…
Love the surf style playing and man what a great amp! I've got a 68 Deluxe
I have a Weber MiniMass 50w I use with my 68 Custom Vibrolux. I like it.
Sick shirt :)
You just like the reverb
YES!
How did I miss this? I don't think I even got a notification.
Dig the shirt.
Anyone know if you can add a $10 12at pre amp tube to make it more quiet? I've seen it in the hot rod deluxe and it made the guitar louder than the amp at around volume level 1 and the hrd didn't get loud until 3 or 4.
'71 silverface Princetons have a pull-out Volume Boost on Volume knob.
Nice! But I don't need that much output with what I've already got.
Gotta keep TWO PRINCETONS... but this amp is fantastic. DOES IT DRIP?
I got one of these and it seams great. Still trying to gig with it enough to properly break-in the speaker. Just now I saw a video from an amp tech bashing it, there's always going to be those about everything right?
I need one!
Now, let’s all imagine what it’s like to hook up a guitar equipped with low-turn pickups into this combo. Hot. Just so hot. The kids will call it, “fire”.
You know that Princeton's can be very loud with a more efficient speaker? Maybe give that a go if you have not yet. My Princeton is the only amp that I don't have a mid control on, but I don't feel like I miss it with all the drive pedals out there. If I were you I'd keep the Princeton. Of the 10 or so amps, the PRRI 65 is cheapest by a wide margin, but it hangs with the best.
Really hope you were able to check out the ‘68 vibro champ while you were at sweetwater too! Seems like a cool small amp
I wasn’t, the shipment hadn’t arrived yet.
Get what you really want, a Twin Reverb !
Great presentation, thanks! Maybe try not to shoot on 4k, it looks weird. 1080 pixels is just perfect! Cheers!
Add. To. Cart.
It's a single channel, 40 watts Deluxe! G.A.S. Lust!
Liked for The Surferajettes T-shirt
The real original Pro Rev's were actually 2 12" designs with the speakers arranged kind of
diagonally in the open back cab...(still 40 watts!)...it was considered a poor man's Twin Rev.
I think they were Black Face until 69'... and brought back as a Chrome Face model in 1970 or 71' (I think!).
AND they were all 2 channel amps!!
So there was never a 1968 model with only 1 12" speaker and 1 channel that I know of...maybe this is more of a high power DeLuxe Rev. than a classic Pro Rev.
I remember buying my brand new Pro Rev. for $385 from the String's & Thing's store on Woodward Ave in suburban Detroit back in 1973...my neighbors HATED me ...LOL:)
The late 70s UL Pro Reverbs are unreal for clean headroom love the tight bass glassy treble dripping reverb the only downside is the weight 👍
The late 70s UL Pro Reverbs are unreal for clean headroom love the tight bass glassy treble dripping reverb the only downside is the weight 👍
@@steobrien2907 ...Yup...they were heavy...even for an athletic 22 year old...LOL:)
Sounds to me that CBS was just using old stock components until they ran out. Good reason not to go silver face
Early silver-face Pro Reverbs were one of the few amps that CBS didn't mess up right away. My dad gigged one (I think it was a '69 or a '70), and it was great in smaller venues- you could get a bit of hair at much more manageable levels compared to a Twin. Weight was definitely a downside, though. Nearly as heavy as a Twin...
That kwispy switch got nasty. Killer platform, but keep the two Princetons. Kills me when you put up the song two princess.
Are you sure this is a 40-watt amp? Sweetwater listing indicates it's using a pair of 6v6s.
Nevermind, I was looking at the wrong page. It does use 6L6s.
How’s the noise floor?
Cool Amp but as you push it I can hear what I dislike about the Neo speaker…floppy low end :(
Does that clipping come from the speaker being overloaded? Sounds too harsh for tube saturation.
Sounds to me like mic clipping. Like Ryan forgot to adjust mic pre when crancking the amp.
@@stanislavmigra don't think so. Ryan said he heard the clipping, and he was hearing the amp, not the mic.
@@lshin80 that is not mutualy exclusive ;)
My favorite vintage amp is my 74 Pro Reverb. To me, it’s better than a Silverface Deluxe or even a BF Super I’ve had before. The only vintage amp I’ve had that’s better is a long lost BF Bandmaster. So when Fender came out with this one twelve single channel, I had to get one.
To me the surfy bear really made the video. It sounded just average to me until that point. Please try the cavernous setting on the line 6 spyder 5, the original model with the one twelve speaker. Its amp model 2c called double verb. Try adjusting the settings on the cavernous reverb cause I think it has a great huge drip. I am very curious as to your opinion of it. If you can do a short video or part of a video on it I think a lot of serf players would like it.
Plugged into this amp @ GC not looking (thinking it was a Princeton) … thought “huh, why does this Princeton sound so much better than I remember?” Finally noticed it was a Pro.
Ryan, sorry to bother you with old stuff. But I'm about to buy an Epi LP SL and loved your videos on it. I wanted to ask you since you probably have seen that guitar gutted a lot, does the Bigsby fit on the wood body if I were to cut the pickguard?
Thanks in advance.
You're throwing money down the toilet. There's better choices of electrics available. That Epiphone is the worst one ever made.
A coworker bought one, didn't listen to my advice and agreed it a big POS
@@davidkastin4240 Sure, but I live in a third world country and can get this one with two months of use by half the price.
@@RexVergstrong If you know how to do the work yourself it's a deal. If you don't know how it'll cost ya an arm and a leg. I can do all the work myself, I know exactly what they need to be better, I would have bought one being well aware about their faults but no lefties dam it. Have you watched videos on them? Research?
With mine I had to make risers to float the bigsby above the pickguard. The bigsby will overlap the pickguard to fit.
If you were gigging, yes. But I still like the Princetons.
The difference between this and a Deluxe reminds me of the difference between an AC15 compared to an AC30. The AC15 goes dirty with less effort. Whether that's good or not, depends on the use. But, the AC30 (and Pro Reverb) have a fuller more powerful clean sound but the AC15/Princeton are more compact and not so godamm loud when driven. AC30/Fender Pro Reverb are better live amps for good sized gigs, or maybe with an Ox-Box. Princeton and AC15 are more practical home/recording amps. Vibro Champ too is a great home/recording amp. I think it's nice to have two matched Princetons for stereo. I use a Vox AC15 and AC30 for stereo, but then there's a little more effort in matching their tones and levels.
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Hi Ryan, do you think that this Fender 68 Custom Pro Reverb drips? Thanks
Yes
I can't believe you didn't compare Surfy Bear and Pro reverbs.
The Vibro Champ is the sweeter-sounding of the two; so much so, that I had to get one. You would hate the reverb though. It's digital hall. The Pro Reverb has the far superior reverb, plus it's giggable. But I did just prefer the tone and volume of the Vibro Champ for recording and living room use. I recommend getting both! Use one for living room and studio use, and the other is for a band setting.
I have both amps and the vibro champ sounds like a card box box in comparison. For the bit extra getting the Pro Reverb is a no brainer.
Was reading the reviews up on the Sweetwater sight and another large retailers, and there appears to be an issue with tube and chassis rattling on this model. Seems the tubes are rattling and going microphonic because of poor tube socket quality. If you buy one and the dealer tells you the tubes are not covered under Fenders warranty, call Fender directly, because the tubes are covered. Sad to see that Fender put this amp out with documented design flaws.
Woah! Bummer.
how loud is it? can it keep up with a hard hitting drummer on like volume 4?
Yes. I've gigged with it three times now. An OCD in the LP setting is great with it.
@@clydevanzant awesome...is it too much for apt use??
@@soofitnsexy It's a 6L6 amp, so it does need some volume to operate at normally but can work in an apartment if you're careful. I prefer my Princeton for low volume work.
This is the Pro Reverb amp. czcams.com/video/Lrvdec485eU/video.html
I am thinking use a ABY pedal with a Princeton on A and a pro on B.
played the new princetons and dont like them tbh. was such a mistake not to put spring reverb in this tut tut. I have the 68 vibrolux its unreal IMO
How’s the Neo speaker
I always spend my money on guitars, pedals and accessories when I have some extra change in my pocket. I really want to get a nice amp, something that will last a lifetime and be worth the 3 figure price tag. It's a hard decision
These are $1400
Look up Paionic Audio / good informations there plus in depth as far as the inside components and cost of maintenance over the life span of an amp
If you need an attenuator, stick with the Princeton. ;-)
Or add a Treble Bleed on your guitar, and CRANK IT UP.... just use guitar volume knob to lower the level
He needs attenuator for home use ;)
@@darrellm3410 good idea
Man, you can get the Princetons to get dirty? From what I've seen, it seems like they need an overdrive pedal to get dirty...
on 5 or 6 the Princeton can get very dirty depending on your guitar
Could you not take some of that bright/harshness off with your guitar’s tone control ?
Torn between this and the 64 deluxe HW
1300 buck dufference,,,I played both the Pro is my choice
if your name was michael you could name your channel 60 michael hum
Too loud if you're not gigging. I have a Rivera attenuator, highly recommended.
Can you just add the $10 12at preamp like people do with the hot rod deluxe to make it quiet until around volume 3.
@@Joecuzzi right but heres the problem the amp sounds amazing at 5!! then it becomes LOUD
Call me a purist, but that middle pickup doesn’t belong on a Tele. Beautiful color though
yessssss
True tele mid position is the best, I don't think I'd own a tele with 3 pickups :(
Why not? They are awesome. I added a switch to turn on the neck so I get the authentic Tele twang with the bridge. 7 way switching 😈 can also have the 3 pups on.
Mine's rigged 15way, 1,2, and 3 are std tele, 4 is neck w/treble bleed, 5 is n\b series. Middle has on\off toggle switch and push pull pot for mid pu phase. It can be any guitar I want.
tweeds never work well with humbuckers as they tend to distort. I like VOX amps myself
I’ve played humbucker a through tweeds and it’s great for jazz
You forgot to mention that this 40 watt 1x12 amp weighs exactly as much as a Princeton Reverb. I love mine. If it had a bit more clean headroom it would be perfect. Still it’s very close!
Isn't being a gear addict fun? Epiphone just released the Billie Joe Armstrong LP junior and I'm like.... damn does the little greenday fanboy in me get that one, the classic one or the Jared James Nichols one ? Lol Im torn!
IT DRIPS!!!! Try a Solid State Super Reverb!
I didn't notice much difference in the overall sounds I heard from this amp that would inspire me to sell my 70's vibrolux.
It’s loud and needs to be loud to sound the bestest. Too loud for the casa unless you have a nice attenuator and don’t care for speaker break up in your tone. Great for pedals if you want to cheat. Hahahahaha
Yes, yes I do covet this amp and am have been trying to fan-dangle one since they launched. 😭 it’s like a deluxe reverb on steroids with a mid control and only one channel, what’s not to love? Tame those lows with your friendly neighborhood tube screamer.
Tight little amp! Might have to ditch my Ht Rd deluxe…
Here’s an example of this amp in a live (fairly loud) club setting.
czcams.com/video/XvFXi1-s2Ec/video.html
This amp does not sound close to this. As usual the mic'd situation has you hearing the PA .... Not the amp. Amp is very flat. No where as full as this.
Why do everyone get the same tone out of fender? The most painful company ever 💔
the best tone all time
Why do you keep comparing this to a Princeton?
Because anyone who watches this channel regularly knows a pair of princetons are my main rig
duhhhh
Quit tormenting yourself. Put your mind at ease so you can sleep at night. I can see you are in pain and are suffering. You need Retail Therapy. GET THE DARN AMP!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Two Notes Captor X for a decent attenuator without having to filing bankruptcy. 🤣🤣🤣
But "will it church?" is the important question. 😉
This is also the same kind of agony you felt over that gold sparkle Strat. Don't torture yourself, get it.