The Ghost Train that didn't work (Thorpe Park)
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Hello everyone, hope you guys are feeling fabulous! this was a bit of a niche topic away from my typical coaster ones but I do really enjoy talking about obscure things so here we go!
I don't think its that bad like everyone says. It definitely needs some tweaks but this is the best iteration so far because its original and doesn't rely on VR LMAO
As always any feedback is welcome but try to be kind about it because I am a sensitive cow thanks x
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Ah the Ghost Train, the dark ride with ambition being the tragic part of being far ahead of its time but stuck in a messy operation. Removing the Train through the tunnel effect was a mistake. I went on the absolute worst day the ride opened.
@@thecinematicmind aw that must have been so cool! Its a shame they lost the infection type of storyline I feel like thats quite unique to a ghost train. Idk what they were cooking up with the fracking though LMAO
The ‘Child Labour Innit’ part took me off guard
@@Randomes_ always got those crusty jokes 🗣️
I only rode the Ghost Train for the first time last year. It only took as long as the station master introducing himself as “Angelis Mortis” for me to roll my eyes so hard that both of my retinas detached. It’s an interesting ride, but it’s about as subtle as a brick.
@@danieljmcdowell LMFAO no thats so fair and of course each to their own! It is quite funny but honestly the more I do it the more I enjoy it unfortunately. If you get good actors its a good experience! :D
Knowing this is Thorpe Park's only "dark ride" shows that there really is a huge hole in their lineup, a real shame because when it comes to scare attractions theirs is the most complete honestly!
ALSO OMG RYAN REYNOLDS ON THE NEWS HOW DID I MISS THIS?
@@nnemmesiss honestly agreed! Just goes to show that heavy reliance on actor led experiences dont go well when they are 24/7
you had to be there to believe it sorry 🙄🙄
Walking dead is a dark ride at thorpe park
@@Pebblesmistwalker i don’t think it is, its an indoor rollercoaster. It doesn’t have dark ride scenes like the mummy its different
@@Q4Coasters This ^^
Although yes it has elements of dark ride attractions like the rooms with actors and such, it is 100% an indoor rollercoaster more than a dark ride.
yea. as a person who learned about roller coaster and attraction engineering: we were taught not to do this lol. Purely because there's too many variables. What if a person is in a wheelchair? the ride will be slower. Also, it is based mostly on plot and lore which means, if you weren't already knowing a million and one things already, you;ll feel lost and confused. nemisis is great as there's videos to keep you invested during the line as well as making you hyped for the actual ride. And then you're literally led along while strapped into a chair.
@@t.j.johnsonthewriter totally with you on this its very hard to maintain and keep the same consistency because as you and I said the amount of variables and things that can go wrong are nuts. It could work (maybe) but they should make it easier to understand and make better use of the indoor sections they have! I’m not to sure as to how the walking dead puts me on edge and ghost train doesn’t. Probably the loud noises!
I just love this kinda dumb humor it always has me crack up
@@SuperninjaGD I’m so glad I can make you laugh! Thanks for tuning in again pal I really appreciate your support!
Thank you for this. It was one of the funniest rides I have ever been on. While my friends were freaking out behind me I was trying not to sound like a mad woman laughing my ass off at the premise.
Those poor scare actors. I'm sorry truly. I just couldn't deal with the corniness..
@@Firegen1 honestly I didn’t know what to do with myself when the nuns came out. Was so out of place ☠️.
The actors slay but the script needs adjusting! Glad you feel the same way haha
@Q4Coasters Oh no sorry I didn't see the reply! Sorry for the late response. To be honest the nun bit starting happening I accepted my fate to be in a demented production of The Sound of Music. The actors are amazing, as good actors usually are. It just needs a less convulted plot. I still think TP missed a trick by not making an honorary Witch's Haunt ride and making up a myth for the famous fire. Alton Towers would. They did ... Hex....
@Q4Coasters Also are you Fright Nighting this year? Just sorted my ticket 🥰
@@Firegen1 at some point yes of course haha I will try my best
GENUINELY I went on it for the first time a couple days ago and I spent the whole experience stifling a laugh
I really liked Derren Brown's Ghost Train, but the new cersion left me cold. There was no real plot, and the only "scares" came from the actors randomly shouting words from their scripts and stomping across the train carriage to startle us. The crypt room was cool, but it seemed to have no link to what was happening on the train. The only scare that really made me scream was when one of the actors appeared in front of me suddenly wearing a scary mask...an effect ruined when i realised it was a mask of Valek from The Nun. Something else that has no link to the train! At least Derren Brown's Ghost Train had a storyline. It felt like such a missed opportunity. And such a shame, because i adore dark rides, especially spooky dark rides.
To be honest I never did the first one because it was never working! I think dropping the IP was definitely a good idea because then they have more room to be creative!
The Script is now VERY story heavy I'm not sure if they were like not wearing mics or you couldn't hear them properly but there is a lot of story, almost to the point where it gets a bit ridiculous. I agree that a lot of it isn't coherent but the reliability is better now for sure!
But of course everyone is allowed to have their own opinion and if you liked the previous iteration that's totally fine keep girlbossing it! ahaha
either they should rework the whole area it’s in and build a coaster + possibly a flat ride or they should clear out the ghostrain and build a dark ride like the one at alton towers
Great video!!! One of thorpes most expensive investments ever, Derren brown himself is brilliant but the attraction never really worked and now that the hook has gone it’s even worse now
@@CoasterChicken AHH THANK YOU SO MUCH! Honestly I don’t mind the new one, it definitely needs some tweaking though. I never got to do the first iterations because it was always broken gahaha
i do really miss the derren brown theming, i sadly never got to go on his one, but remove the vr and it looked like it would've been cool, the fracking story was cool and i loved the posters outside
there were a few things that made derren's one better, like the floating train effect, and the new one just doesn't feel as loved, it looked like a lot of effort was put into the old ones and this just feels like a quick rebranding to get it open again, the flip board in the showroom is really cool but everything else looks to be the same but just slightly worse
idk how to describe it, but derren's one felt so much more lively but intimidating, with background knowledge of what he does, it really made it feel a lot scarier than it probably was and if they just changed it away from the vr but keeping everything else i bet it would've worked just as well
@@criticalboot2567 totally agree either with you theming wise! But reliability is better on the new one. I never did the og and rise of the demon because it was always closed 😭
As I take an interest in Victorian and Edwardian railways, I can indeed confirm that a Midland RailwayNorth Eastern Railway clerestory coach would not look like a London Undergroud train on the inside. I like that they chose a vintage railway carriage, but I don’t know why the interior didn’t match.
@@joshslater2426 aye its a very strange scenario 😭
Personally I think the problem lies more with guest expectation, unless you are making the next biggest rollercoaster that cost £15 million with 2km squares worth of space, you need experiment with different ideas, at the time of Ghost Trains construction, Thorpe Park didn't have the space for a new rollercoaster so they had to branch out a bit on a new type of experience that wasn't done (in the UK at least) before. I rode Ghost train for the first time this year and I rather enjoyed it, a fun ride I wouldn't mind doing again, kind of like a more grown up version of Hocus Pocus Hall back at Chessington when that was around.
@@MooreThanCosplay It’s inoffensive to me. Its all based on how interactive the actors are but for it costing over 20 million its not as good as it could be at all tbh
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I've been on all versions of the train. The one with the Victorian train with the chains was the best. Also, last time i was on it, some random person dumped a can of coke on my head in the dark, lol. 😂
@@brickity1447 i beg your pardon?? 😭
Darren Brown got so much flack for the ride… I feel bad honestly, Ghost Train’s current iteration seems pretty good compared to the original
@@Foxy02016 I think its a lot better but I will never truly know. As ironically the og was never open ☠️
good video! love it when people mix humour and facts lol. love your vids 🤍
@@kermits_loopscx thank you so much bestie I appreciate you
Ghost train more like toast train
ate Derren brown up with that
You say Thorpe Park and dark ride my mind instantly goes to Wicked Witches Haunt!!. Awesome video! It's Interesting seeing what's there now. I wasn't a fan of ghost trains/spook houses as a kid but I absolutely adored Thorpe Parks old dark ride Wicked Witches Haunt. So sad it burnt down. Still think they should have made a dark ride themed like the witches revenge, have a burnt/undead witch causing havoc :D.
@@CattCreature I never did it! What was it like? :O. Are there videos of it, was that what was there before nemesis inferno! The one that burnt down
@@Q4Coasters yes!! There are videos of the ride. It makes use of the peppers ghost effect, had spooky knights, king henry, a skeleton seance. Hmmm looking at dates, WickedWitch burned down in 2000, Nemesis was built in 2003. Apparently, The Detonator now lives in Wicked Witches old spot :)
The ride is only 15 minutes for most run throughs although if there are enough delays 25 mins in possible, also I will say that I think the current storyline is bad, it should incorporate a ghost train, not some goofy ahh little last train tomfoolerry. Why can't the train line be haunted by ghosts from a train crash or plaguepits.
@@KittyLovesFerries totally agreed! My run through was 25 minutes BAHAHAHA
They should definitely stick to a ghost train type of thing and not demons. They could even do zombies they have the abandoned look so 😭
@@Q4Coasters yeah but they have zombies next door, and the name ghost train just works imo
@@KittyLovesFerries yeah I know haha i just love zombies gahaha. They should definitely tweak the script and effects though!
@@Q4Coasters Oh absolutely, my idea has always been to revert it to being 'underground' as it creates a more tense atmosphere as you are in a more confined space although that may be my train nerd side squeezing through. The effects imo don't need too much tweaking as they are actually pretty decent for such small spaces
@@KittyLovesFerries It’s actually surprisingly not small! Its huge. You can find pictures of it its crazy big for such a small looking building :O
Is anyone else surprised how young the kids in the scare maze were??
@@mollythompson9277 oh 100% at their age you wouldn’t have caught me dead inside them ☠️
Strange you mention about teenagers. We noticed the same thing last year and it was during the ghost train ride. The chavs really does put me off going in future
@@Nick-ew2cb smh its always the chavs and roadmen trying to be too big for their boots :(
@@Q4Coasters yeah actually it was roadmen wannabes. We’d queued for ages and then couldn’t hear the pre show as they kept shouting and swearing. You don’t seem to get roadmen at Alton Towers, so prefer to go there.
@@Nick-ew2cb thats such a shame I’m sorry definitely try again on a weekday haha
Another really good video. I kinda wished thorpe had a proper dark ride like curse at alton Manor. I do think it is because dark rides don't make as much money as a record breaking coaster.
yeah of course totally agree with you pal! but at the same time you and I both enjoy dark rides like curse, thorpe could really like lean into their older audience and do a scary dark attraction! something that isn't actor based haha.
But it is definitely something they are missing for sure. I like dark rides because they help break up the day and its a good thing to do after lunch or when it rains!
also forgot to say, thank you so much
When the ride first opened I was actually a fan of Darren Brown and I was really wanting to try the ride. Then the ride closed for a while and I realized Darren faked almost all of his specials that I fell in love with... That was a pretty disappointing time.
@@ryan7032 Aw man almost as heartbreaking as the toothfairy LMFAO
... he did? :(
Merlin is awful with dark rides, they are now retheming the last big dark ride we had in Italy, apparently it is going from a dark cinematic Pirate-like attraction to a "Disney inspired" cartoony adventure. I dread the day I get to see it, I am going to be so so so mad.
@@mirkozanda ah thats such a shame! I dont think they are terrible but they have a long way to go, curse at alton manor, flight of the sky lion, nemesis subterra are definitely the strongest
@@Q4Coasters I don't think that's the standard I'm thinking about 😂 quite a few people mention Curse as one of the best dark rides Merlin built, but it's really mid (I have only seen videos tbh). I don't believe they have the talent in-house to achieve good results (or the wrong people are working at these projects if they do have valuable creatives in there)
@@mirkozanda well I wouldn’t judge a dark ride off of it a video. Definitely do it before you start slating it 😭
@@mirkozanda but yeah I agree with you. But they definitely are improving. I think mythica clears the other flying theatres its such a cute cool idea
Unfortunately its fairly weak as far as dark rides go, the likes of curse at alton manor and nemesis sub terra are just better ride experiences, hopefully thorpe can find a way to make it better
@@bradster990 very true! Sub-terra does the dark ride/actual ride hybrid quite well I think! Definitely a better example of a sensory overload. Id say it’s better to look at ghost train as an experience rather than a dark ride gahaha
I really miss the fake gift shop ending they used to do, not sure why they stopped doing it this year.
@@orangecoatguy yeah thats a real shame apparently they kept it when it changed theme to ghost train but for some reason they’ve just stopped it now :(
@Q4Coasters They did last year! Instead of the projection of Derren Brown and the ouija board I think they had some TVs and which played static, with Angleis Mortis popping up and then a scare from the faceless nun instead of the demon. Last time I did it they just ushered us out through the corridor behind the fake gift shop :(
@@orangecoatguy thats such a shame it sounds cool! yeah I did it on Saturday and walked straight through :(
your telling the ghost train story for dbgt dbgt story was not the same story was ghost train there was no believers and final train in dbgt and the ride is part of illusion thats why the inside of the train carriaghe is a tube train and the other is a victorian train carriage there was
@@themeparkplanet3210 I know they aren’t the same story! I just briefly went over it before I talked about rise of the demon. The first iteration was about fear! There just were no pov videos of it because it ran for just short of a year!
Sorry if it felt like I didn’t explain it properly the video material for the ride is pretty sparse because its not allowed. Even if it was an illusion its a bit strange they should have carried the victorian style inside and out most people don’t even notice it changes lmao
Sorry but the new train is NOTHING like the ones we have here. Yes, I am 'that guy' and yes I am going to be that pedantic.
@@TheMusicalElitist oh?? The outside isnt but the inside is pretty similar. I used to take the train every day lmao but obvs the inside of them changes depending on where you live, what line you take ect. Ive never seen someone so passionate about trains 😭
The narrator sounds like Audrey Plaza trying to do a British accent
@@theboyscout0156 wait me? 😭
I was in crows last year we were next to ghost train’s green room and bro they were NEGLECTED through scare season ;-;
that really does suck I'm sorry to hear that! :(
@@Q4Coasters I’ll say it can be a good attraction when it’s fully staffed but sometimes they’re on skeleton crew :(. Can’t say anything bad about doing the horror acting there though! Had a great time!
5:06 They should've had the train leave from Platform 15 as a reference to the old Fright Nights maze
@@SwitchbackSylveon Good idea!
i think it’s a great attraction if you get good days like actors like becca running the acting but you have good points like you should have mentioned more about the forgotten ending and the death effect (great vid tho)
@@helixseeker so true actually, most of the actors slay. Yes apologies! Wanted to do my own take on it because others have done it better and in more depth haha
Nice video I really enjoyed it and I want to see some flamingo land content… very funny 😄
@@realmrtenticles before i do that I would have to visit haha its still on my list but after sure! 😱. Thank you very much for your kind words :3
LET THE NUNS BE NUNS BRO
@@Somthing_stupidly_done never smh get derren brown to be the final jumpsvare
They should get a gangsta granny clone.
oh no... can't say I agree to that LMFAO
how the hell does this have so many comments
@@thatBrickishkid you tell me 🤨. You’re the one spamming it LMFAO
@@Q4Coasters i might of done that if i was hight but i dont see it
high*
@@Q4Coasters but when im high i just lisen to pink floyd and just get more and more baked
Its like hex breaking alot as its very complicated to fix i would presume but did hex ever succeed or fail miserbly?
I mean I think it succeeded until the last two years haha poor hex :(
I prefer this new version i think its better than it originally was they have not got any space for a proper dark ride they used to have a good one many years ago but sadly burnt by a fire that was opened as the phantom fantasia later wicked witches haunt the ride system is not the same because its mostly actors performing in front of you
@@thephantomfantasia yes and yes! Agree with both haha. I prefer this version because it does more and its technically more reliable. But i wish i got to do those defunct ones. However i do love nemesis inferno so 😱
I wanna watch this but ive been avoiding spoliers for it
@@Billnyethecoasterguy ah! maybe don’t then this features an in depth of what happens haha
I feel bad because once I was calling one of the boy characters shirley to my friend and the actor heard so in the crypt room he pulled me over and said in character i was ruining it for others
Edit: I should explain its because i dont do fear well i tend to just try and see the funny side of it - hence shirley
3:21 Gerstlauers are elite and I will die on this hill
@@jameswatkins3375 absolutely not you are so wrong for this 🙄. *I’m just kidding you are entitled to your own opinion*
I have autism and it kinda scary but more confused. I belive it could be something better.
@@FP_VIEW totally agreed! Definitely better with earplugs pal :)
I ADORE THIS RIDE!!!
i really dont know why 😭
i know that its not the greatest ride in the world, but something about it is just really great, and was probably the highlight of my visit to thorpe…
OK NO BUT WHY ARE THERE NUNS IM SO CONFUSED HELP
@@rlcoasters STOP IT WAS YOUR HIGHLIGHT?? I should have known its coming from the zodiac stan 😭
I REALLY DONT KNOW GAHAHA
I'm from the US so I've never heard of Derren Brown. I thought you said "Dan Brown" like the author. I was a little confused but it wasn't the worst branding I'd ever seen.😅 😅😅
@@nerdybird27 haha! Sorry my apologies he’s a famous magician here
The Ghost Train is brilliant!
@@pauldodd5481 very controversial opinion here! Dont see many that do, I think its fine but for its price tag it could have been much better, the actors carry it
I one of those that probably ruins these types of rides as when i did alton towers scar maze i was looking at my surroundings and noticed bits where people came out, one of the actors popped out to make me jump but i saw them in the shadows and just went boo back then they went for my gf and i joked saying oii thats my girlfriend keep away. So ever since then i haven't done anything like this as i feel i ruin the experience for others.
@@matthewtemprell5422 fair enough thats very noble that you can admit or see that. I respect you! As long as you aren’t directly being rude to the actors though or talking over them I don’t see an issue with you doing them :)
I'll be in thorpe park for 2 days in September. Will be my first and probably last time because I'm not from the UK. Is Ghost Train worth doing at least once or should I just ride Nemesis inferno again?
@@d4m4s74 if its a short queue go for it but I really wouldn’t wait longer than 20 minutes for it. If you run out of things to do sure but you can go without it :)
I feel like the issue with This dark ride is whilst its not bad on its own merits. The dark ride concept was done better. 16 years prior and a few extra hours up the road.
Hex - The Legend of the Towers at Alton Towers is probably my favourite ride ever. There is something magical about it. How the story was born from an old legend, A story of Natural vs the supernatural, almost shrouded in truth.
It's just a more believable story, because parts of the story are real.
The Earl of Shrewsbury's family is real. Alton Towers is real and it was once the home for the earl of Shrewsbury and the Chained Oak tree IS REAL. You can visit it in person on a quiet forest path about a mile out from Alton Towers.
Not to mention Witchcraft was a pervasive fear in the 15th Century. Possibly giving more credence to the story.
All of this just seems to elevate the story it is trying to tell. the queue line, to the walkthrough section to my favourite part.
The ride itself. goddamn the theme music for that ride is so good.
For anyone that has not ridden Hex. I will not spoil. Do not spoil it for yourself as you will be missing out.
Every time I have rode it I have stared at the faces of people. there is always someone who is riding it for the 1st time and has no idea what to expect.
But seriously that theme tune is so good. I even reached out to the composer Crispin Merrell to thank him for his work and he replied personally after a while
@@DiscreetHobo Hex is also closed and has been for nearly 2 years, also its like 5 hours from thorpe so its not exactly accessible. The story is good but not everything has to be based off of true story
Also you are comparing a vekoma madhouse to a actor led experience. They aren’t even close in experience :,)
@Q4Coasters I was probably being a little too biased in my love for Hex. (Hope that reopens soon)
Being actor led has its own challenges and I keep forgetting that Thorpe Park is known for its fright night mazes and events so its no surprise that Ghost train would be actor led as well.
I've only been on Ghost train once since opening despite visiting the park multiple times and that was during the Rise of the Demon incarnation of the ride. And whilst I enjoyed it. I don't really remember much about it other than the shot of the train suspended by chains.
I think what separates the 2 is the difference between the Vekoma Madhouse and the VR experience.
I own A VR headset and am very familiar with them so I think the magic is lost a little with me as I have my "VR sealegs"
I think because of this It just didn't have as much impact for me as it would for people who aren't familiar. As well as being compared to the real illusion the madhouse presents.
I still can't get that feeling out of my head. Weirdly enjoyable
I only did rise of the demon once and I did actually enjoy it just never felt the need to ever do it again but the one time I did it I had a good run through, no vr issues and as soon as the demon wolf thing walked past me an actor brushed my legs which really added to the immersion.
With Ghost train I've done it once and never again, can't fault the actors but it was soo cringey half of the experience was just actors waving their arms around with nothing really happening, I will say I think off the train the rest of the attraction is improved and the story is a bit better and the see it say it sorted gag made me chuckle.
Rise of the demon 5/10
Ghost train 2/10
Honestly my favourite experience kinda dark ride in the country whilst hex is closed is sub-terra I give that a 7.5/10.
Whats your thoughts of tidal wave?
disgusting ride, never felt the need to be waterboarded yet but I'll get back to you when i do gaha
Tidal wave is class and a must need the all point of the rode is to get wet and soaking so when people are going on moaning or wearing cloaks like wtf that's the fun part of the ride getting soaked. If you don't like water or guna act like wet fish don't go on I say!
@@user-sb5vc9nq1e I just don’t like water rides ahaha everyones different! Don’t enjoy the feeling of wet clothes. But yeah I agree queueing for a water ride and then complaining is quite funny
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They should have made like a proper dark ride like Haunted mansion or like the new doll dark ride in Alton towers
@@Edmundyu1995 yeah they should! Definitely with a horror type of theme. I cant really see much else fitting in
here for the jokes.
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I know my autistic ass isn't the target demographic for this ride, so I thank you for this insight :)
@@ParasocialCatgirl anytime pal! Its okay with earplugs its not very scary at all haha
Dont say demond again, it is demon (apologies, huge pet peeve)
@@Undead_Nexus sorry mr undead_nexus wont happen again sir 😤.
No but I know it’s demon idk why i said demond LMFAO
@@Q4Coasters lmao, other than that i loved the video :)
Omg 😂😂
I only got to 3:13 before I had to stop. I felt so cringe just looking at that Ghost Train ride. Horrible, lackluster, VR HEADSETS??? Your video is fine, it's the damn ride and the concept of it that is terrible and even the cheapest theme park should be ashamed to ever produce something that is essentially a walk-through haunted house.
Weirdest ride ever, never did original vr but the current version is absolutely pointless and the acting and storytelling was awful. It could have been so much better
@@badmoonrising7795 agreed it definitely has parts I would change but its more reliable than it was. So much so I never even go to do the og 😭
i nether bothered with it, im a coaster enthusiast not a dark ride thosie
@@I_am_Addicted_2_RollerCoasters fair enough! I like a good dark ride, breaks up the day :D
Aww this got a huge downgrade
@@Combinemetrocop I think its a two edged sword! Its more reliable than it was. But it also relies on the quality of the actors more than anything now which leads to a lack of consistency. I will take an original IP over an unoriginal one 9/10 times :)
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