The many different Porsche 935s of Le Mans 1981
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- Porsche, together with Kremer, Joest and many others have made dozens of racing versions of the 930 generation Porsche 911. While they were all dubbed "935" almost all of them were unique. And while some had a few similarities here and there. Others had very little in common. The 1981 24h of Le Mans saw 10 different members of this diverse 935 family gather to duke it out for gt racing glory. So let's find out what exactly set these cars apart from each other, and which one was the best.
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AC Zero - Briefing 1
AC 5 - Briefing 1
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extra mention to the le mans history website. A literal goldmine on anything related to the le mans 24h. Check it out and get lost in it yourself.
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I enjoy your channel for stories like these. A welcome change from the seemingly endless F1 channels, since racing has so many stories to tell. Keep going!
Thanks! yeah there's already plenty of F1 stuff for people to see. and like you said, there's a lot more to motorsport than just F1.
@@stijnpaspont I think f1 has hit its peak with the casual audience, the new fans from dts who are now interested in racing will hopefully looks at series such as sportscar racing now to get their fill. Good work so far, these stories are awesome
@@stijnpaspont yeah preb jort, dont stop cant stop won't stop "take dat take dat take dat" ~Puff Daddy
Yeah and 95% have zero unique insights
Modern F1 cars are the most boring racing series imaginable it’s no wonder it lost its massive popularity..
I’m really grateful for all the channels who make videos about interesting cars when cars where still existing!
Nowadays way to strict rules and the BOP bullshit is making racing unbelievably boring. Doesn’t matter if F1 or GT4(they have at least different engines), all the cars are way to similar to have favorites..
Yes it works in Nascar, but not in sportscar racing!
The Whittington brothers would later be one of most prolific arrest of the infamous IMSA crackdown on marijuana smuggling.
The International marijuana smugglers association times
Privateers : "We like your 935 a lot. Can you please sell them to us so we can race ?"
Porsche : "nein"
Kremer and Lundgaard : "Fine, we'll do it ourselves then!"
*A few years laterrrrrr*
Porsche : "Hey Joest Racing, want some 935s ?"
Joest : "Y E S"
How funny that porsche makes a quick turnaround selling customers race cars after saying no to privateers before then.
It only shows that Porsche can adept, something like this would never happen with Ferrari.
Making some of the best sports car racing content out there, with what feels like real research and not just repeating wikipedia. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Whittington brothers, founding members of the International Marijuana Smuggling Association ! ... IMSA for short. 😆
I love how obscure each of these cars are. Love your stuff and love the Ace Combat music. Perfect feel for this kind of history!
As a Porsche owner since 1972 with a 356, then a 1973 911s, then a 1985 911 Carerra and then a 1989 930 (911 Turbo), that was a great time in history for the wonderful 935's. Thanks for the great report.
Porsche,pagani,ferrari and Bugatti on their way to building their millionth revision of their cars
You can be Honda and try a new horrible Americanized NSX and fail, or you can be Porsche and update what works and sells.
I love the way this dude pronounces foreign names!!
it's really cool to see all these different 935 models, really unfortunate we don't see this kind of variety nowadays with all the tight rules.
I want time travel be a thing so i can go back and watch these races live
Let me know when you finished your time machine so i can tag along
@@stijnpaspont if i had the funds bro
There's Le Mans Classic :)
That Ace Combat music brought me way back.
Kremer being a shadow of its former self hurts to see
I love the 935 K4
It is a good day when you upload!
Loving the well-made content with amazing attention to detail. Keep it up!
Thanks!
You narrate a good video on an interesting topic, and that AC music it's the cherry on top, it fits so well.
I love watching these kinds of videos and learning about the history of motorsport. The range and depth of motorsport history is quite broad, and without videos like this I would never have known about these rivalries.
I also appreciate how you include your sources in the description. One of these days I'll have to make a deep dive of my own! As somebody that's interested in the history of motorsport/automotive development, I think it'll be a nice activity to try. Keep doing what you're doing!
Thank you!
For the purpose of learning about the many different fields of motorsport history, I can really recommend the AUTOMOBILSPORT magazines. They are very high quality, beautifully made and always doing a deep dive on many different topics with every new issue. They are not cheap, but affordable and especially interesting as many articles are written by or produced with witnesses of the past. I've now collected all of them, and they are super valuable as a lot of information inside them is either hard to find, broken in pieces or nowhere else to be found.
great vid thanks for sharing
And thank you for watching
A video about more 935 developments would be cool.
cool video!
Porsche racing cars always looked so cool!
I have 2 of the cars you mentioned in 1/43 scale and love 'em!
when are we getting a movie about the Whittington brothers....
Definitely my new favorite channel! ❤
Porsche should make a Baby 911. Stripped out, no luxury, and with a small displacement turbo flat 6.
That’s basically what the Cayman is
they almost made a baby boxster sadly it got cancelled.
It turns out that Porsche has decided to keep the Boxster as the sole entry point to the range, giving up on chasing volume sales.
Porsche head of research and development, Wolfgang Hatz recently told Autocar, that the 718 project has stopped and that in his eyes, the Boxster is the "perfect entry point" into the Porsche range.
Back in 2011, company boss Matthias Muller admitted that they would introduce a modern day version of the 550 Spyder to slot under the Boxster, however it now seems that such a model will not go into production any time soon. Our hopes for the project haven't been high since we heard Detlev von Platen, CEO of Porsche's North American operations, say that the 718 won't happen.
If you're a fan of the Baby Boxster that almost was, you can still take comfort knowing that car manufacturers change their minds all the time and that even if they state that the company will never build this or that, the real translation for what they're saying is either "not in the near future" or "not while I'm in charge". After all, it was quite obvious that they were already testing the 718 last summer.
@@loganparker4001 with baby 911 i mean a car like the 912 in the 60's. A pure, basic version of the 911.
A Cayman or Boxter isn't anything like a 911. Not 4 seaters, not daily driver practical, very different handling compared to a 911. Not saying they're bad or worse, they're just not baby 911's.
On the same note i hope Alpine will make a 1000kg 4-seater sportscar, comfortable enough for longer journeys. Like the A610, but lighter and sportier, with a 4-cilinder turbo.
This actually got me thinking, is it allowed in Hypercar category for different versions of WEC hypercars to be developed? Say we have 3-4 different versions of Toyota GR010, made by different kind of teams, then all of them are homologated?
Thats a good question actually. Gimme dat kremer 963K3
as long as the brand gives permission for their car to receive a seperate homologation it's allowed I assume
I do remember there being some rule about having a limited amount of homologated vehicles per brand within 5 years, not entirely sure on that though
The closest thing we have is LMdH/GTP class that based on LMP2 chassis with different bodywork & engine for each manufacture (car brand that compete)
Love this type of contact keep racing!!!
I love the 935. This is a great video. Thanks for making this
Weer zo'n verhaal waarvan ik niet wist dat ik het wilde horen (omdat ik het niet kende), goed bezig 😎
Elite content as always!
Best looking of Dome's wedge shaped cars.
0:02 Mercedes Benz w126 safety cars 0:13
These history lessons are so so good! Thank you! But now I'm fully up to date with all your videos once more and eagerly await the next one!
Thank you! More stuff is on the way.
0:15 what is the name of white car when you say "cheese on wheels"
It's the Ardex S80. It had an engine from the BMW M1, but it didn't qualify.
What linnea said. The ardex s80
As always, great vid. Thanks!
Enjoying the channel keep up the great work
this channel is phenomenal dude!
Thanks!
Seconded. Show's how poor the almighty algorithm is that it's still largely unknown. Really hoping he gets the success he deserves.
At 0:56 id be moving my head too LMAO plug them ears son 😂
Insane is the word i want to say about this story on all of the 935 you have shown in the video as 81 le mans was a unique year for many fans to remember so thank you my friend and have nice day bye now. P.S Hey friend are you going to cover any rallying stores in the future.
Thanks! And yes some (very unusual) rally stuff will come soon.
Oh yes i can't wait 😍.
Well done
935….My favorite GT car of all times. Can you please do a video on the 917 they brought back? Personally that’s what I think LeMans is missing these days. Having strict BOP classes with all new cars pretty much every year has really taken away from a Special event like LeMans, Daytona and Sebring.
as teased in this video. the kremer 917 will be featured in an upcoming video. together with the other few "outdated" cars it raced against.
BoP is the only reason why le mans, daytona and sebring even run these days
Charles Ivey Racing is British not Belgian, Claude Bourgoignie was the Belgian driver
My mistake. With 11 different teams each having at least 2 drivers i guess i was bound to mess a nationality up at one point. Doesnt help that on the wiki for example the car is entered as both "charley ivey engineering" and "claude bourgoignie"
would love to see some videos on the group B track racers, never got my head around it as it seems barely any car were in the group B class
Only one I know of is the Porsche 961
@@AlexK-db5gu exactly the reason, surely there wasn't only the 959 racer
@@jsrng8888 The 959 wasn't even homologated. The ones I remember are the M1, 911 Turbo/930 and a road racing Manta 400.
@@abcdefgh-xf2th nah i'm not talking about the rally cars, i mean the track racing division that also went under group B specification. the one you're thinking are considered as group 4 transfers into group B rally
@@jsrng8888 Read my comment again. I specifically mentioned Group B sports car racing, check RSC there you'll find these cars.
Does Strangereal have an equivalent to the 24 Hours Of Le Mans?
Who knows. There are numerous references to ace combat and strangereal in the ridge racer games afterall.
@Stijn Paspont Yeah, and Reiko is Kei Nagase's sister...I dunno which Kei tho. Maybe it's the AC5 Kei
Can you make a video about diesel history in motorsports
one of my ideas that may or may not be turned into a video is covering all the alternative fuels at le mans. diesel is one of them, but then there's more stuff like the first lmp1 car that ran partially on literal potato juice
@@stijnpaspont also teach us about wtcc. or ovals. or cart. we are ready to learn sensei.
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My friend John , Porsche guy and mechanic to some very wealthy clients, told me he was at Pocono racetrack looking after the Interscope 935 at that time owned by a friend of his . After a testing session the owner told John to put on his driving suit and helmet and said take the car out !!!!! They won't have any idea who is driving !!!!😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍🚘🏁🏁🏁🍺🍺🍺
the black set at the beginning look like a scene from conderman
what music u use btw?
Ace Combat 4, 5 & Zero Soundtrack.
An W126 S Class Mercedes Benz as a Group 5 Pace Car.Woow very unusual 😮
does someone know the name for the music ?
Ive put the specific songs in the description. They're all from the ace combat videogames.
It's from an Ace Combat game, either Fires of Liberation or Skies Unknown, I can't recall which.
@@indigopotatomusic7471 Ace Combat 5 actually.
My favourite part was the Ford Capri Zakspeed destroying the 935's in the DRM, but that same Zakspeed got Disqualified thanks to Porsche.
They claimed Zakspeed made an identical rear spoiler to that of the 935, Zakspeed even uninstalled their rear spoiler to prove how ridiculous it was.
Yet Porsche got support from another brand and was handed the DRM title back then, a year later Zakspeed still won with a different rear spoiler.
Also a year later, Porsche brought the 936, lost at the Norschleife againts the Zakspeed, but won the title in the end.
Group 5 was both a cool and a clown show.
What does "got support from an other brand back then and DRM title was handed to them" mean? Porsche never got support from anyone, they sometimes supported private teams....... last time I checked the customer 935s were not factory supported only in rare occasions when the factory car was out of the race and a team car had a chance to win. So factory mechanics would run and help that team. Kremmer was not a factory supported team, they did their own Thing...... what are your sources for the Porsche upset?
porsche literally rolling in cash from all the business their customer teams gave them haha
I loved it