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Watching Return To Oz (1985) FOR THE FIRST TIME!! || Movie Reaction!
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2021
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Hey everyone hope you enjoyed the reaction! Next up will be a surprise movie and Saving Mr. Banks!!
After that Watch THE MASK, you will never regret watching it, TOP TIER COMEDY MOVIE 😆👍
Please have the surprise movie be the animated or live-action Disney’s “Beauty and the Beast”, if it is, then afterwards you should react to the first sequel, “Beauty and the Beast:The Enchanted Christmas”. It is, from my point of view, the only “Beauty and the Beast” sequel that’s worth watching more than once. Tim Curry does a good job as the villain, Forte, and it goes much deeper into the story behind the curse that was placed on the Prince, servants, and the castle.
You should really react to Tin man have you seen it already?
Please react to A Chipmunk Adventure! The music is incredible!
Great choice
The storyline and aesthetic of this movie is definitely the closest to the books. In the books oz is more like a fully realized country instead of some magic-fairy land. The books are also much darker and include a lot of themes of violence and death. This movie specifically was based off of the 2nd and 3rd Oz books but mostly the 3rd one. Love ur videos and im super excited that you ended up checking this out! Keep up the good work :)
This goes into movies that scared us as children, lol, like "Why was I allowed to watch this as a child?" Mombi's scene with the heads always sticks with me to this day
In the books, Mombi was just the grumpy old part-time witch from "Land of Oz", and Princess Langwidere was a silly spoiled princess with the fashion-head collection who wanted to swap Dorothy's for one of her lesser ones.
Neither one was particularly threatening, except in the director's selective-memory "Children's films have to be SCARY, like Wonka's tunnel and the Childcatcher!" noob view of family films.
That’s the sense that scared me too. I had a terrible nightmare that I can remember till this day.
But I'm glad those of them who saw it as children did.
You and me both I had nightmares for days on end over that scene
That scene was the only reason I remebered this film. I thought I'd dreamt it but turns out it was real and i had the nostalgic nightmare of childhood return.
"If his brain's ran down, how can he talk?"
"It happens to people all the time, Jack."
_That exchange was ahead of its time._
One of many references to the movie, "The Wizard of Oz": "How can you talk if you don't have a brain." "I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?"
@@JohnRandomness105 yes, it was certainly a homage to that.
Omg the fact that they were going to put a little girl through shock therapy gives me chills.
Shock therapy in 1900 level electrical supply consistency too.
I wouldn't trust it with todays systems.
Yeah, shock therapy can ACTUALLY be good if used VERY SPECIFICALLY and properly, but back then they were just like "f*ck it let's see if this works, on full blast, why not?"
@@fredericksaxton9782 Yep, what's the worst that could happen? Other than giving a child an accidental lobotomy. lol
The fact that the electro shock therapy didn’t freak you out haha literally gave me nightmares as a kid with such a tense scene
I was laughing so hard at Nick saying it was all just normal medical procedure, bless him.
@@fabianhebestreit3240 Nick really has no idea.
@@EmilyGloeggler7984 Just goes to show how sheltered some people can be.
Because he didn’t figure out what it even was 🤣
@@brittyn I mean, it's clearly the early 1900s.
This movie is lot darker than people remembered when they first saw it in theaters. It was released 45 years after the first film was released. Plus it tackles some very serious issues that you'll see throughout.
RETURN TO OZ is still to this day the best adaptation of the actual OZ books; equally as dark as Fantasy-driven
I do agree!
The 1980s was a very unique and special time for children's films. They don't make 'em like this any more!
The story that Dorothy tells the psychiatrist is the ACTUAL story from the book.
Ozma is my favorite character from Baum's novels. When you learn her history you realize how sad her story can be. She was stolen from her father and robbed of her identity when she was only an infant. Her father was dethroned and died a prisoner(despite being a wise and just ruler)so she never had a chance to form any loving relationship with him. Her mother basically abandoned her when she was born and seemingly forgot about her. She was raised an abused servant stripped of her name, her heritage and even her gender. The people of Oz were too busy marveling at how wondrous the so-called Wizard who usurped the throne was, the only person who actually searched for her or showed any concern was Glinda the Good Witch. Even after Ozma was restored to her rightful place she didn't have any family or friends to return to(although Glinda would become a protector and mother figure). Is it any wonder that when Dorothy returned to Oz Ozma would turn to her for companionship and affection? The bond they formed obviously did so much to fill the emptiness in Ozma's life.(This would make good material for a movie itself.)
Ruth Plumly Thompson wrote "The Lost King of Oz" in which the former King (Ozma's father) turns out to be alive but enchanted. Once he returns to the Emerald City, he's quite willing to abdicate in favor of his daughter's continued rule.
And yet people want to say the GELPHIE / ELFIYERO / GELFIYERO love triangle from _Wicked_ was the first LGBTQ+ pairing in Oz when Dorothy X Ozma's already done so, hence the "Friends of Dorothy" (later expanded to "Friends of Elphaba") clothing line and the fact that Dorothy lives inside the Emerald City palace with Her Highness & is the only one with a master key to Ozma's private quarters.
Also, the design of the Scarecrow, Lion and Tin Man are all much closer to their illustrations in the book. The 1939 film designed them around the actors, but there wasn't really anything human looking about them in the book. The Lion was an actual lion that walked around on all 4 legs all the time. The Scarecrow's face was literally painted onto a sack full of straw, so he had to hide his permanent smile when he was unhappy. The Tin Man looked much like the metal characters that stood outside of plumbing and ironworks stores.
The designs of the new characters in this film are also very close to the book.
The Tin Man cutting up his body is in the book.
Nicol Williamson who played the doctor and the Nome King famously played Merlin in 'Excalibur' and was one of englands most prominent actors.
The nurse who also played Mombi you may recognise as Bavmorda in 'Willow'. From the book her character Princess Mombi is combined from Princess Langwedere who changes her face and the witch Mombi.
Nick being totally oblivious to the horrors of mental hospitals back in the day and the dangers of electrotherapy.
Just a few Oz facts:
1. Dorothy's story about the Tin Woodman becoming the state we know him as today is actually straight out of the book. When he was human, he fell in love with a Munchkin maiden, but the maiden's mistress didn't want to romance to happen, so she hired the Wicked Witch of the East (Yes, the witch that got flattened by a falling house) to make sure of it. The witch enchanted his axe as he cutting some trees for building a cottage, his swung his axe, but it cut his leg off. So he went to a tinsmith to have a new leg built, but the witch kept doing the same thing to axe until he was completely made of tin. The reason he went to see the Wizard for a heart was because if he did have a heart, he could finally marry his lover.
2. The infamous ruby slippers were actually a movie original idea by MGM. When the book _The Wonderful Wizard of Oz_ was published in 1900 by L. Frank Baum, he wrote that the shoes were originally made out of silver. They still had the same power that it's known for; tap the heels together three times and think about where you want to go. When the screenplay was being written, they were originally gonna have the shoes be silver like the book, but screenwriter Noel Langley decided on having the slippers be ruby red in color because they figured the red would pop better with Technicolor. When the movie was made, Disney had to pay a licensing fee in order for them to use the ruby slippers in the film.
3. The character of Mombi is a mix of two characters: Mombi from the _Marvelous Land of Oz_ and Princess Langwidere of the Land of Ev from _Ozma of Oz._ Mombi was the central antagonist of the former novel, the mistress to Ozma (who was magically disguied as a boy named Tip), who was eventually defeated at the end of the novel. Princess Langwidere was from the neighboring Land of Ev, one of the various lands that surround the Deadly Desert, which in-turn surrounds Oz. She was most famous having a collection of 30 young and beautiful heads that she could easily swap out.
This movie was meant to trigger the most common childhood fears, such as facing pressure in a timed test, and it is meant to be uncomfortable. I won't lie, the king wearing the ruby slippers is such a power move. Great reaction! Sorry if it's repetitive but lots of aloha from Hawai'i!
Not a problem at all for being repetitive, love seeing your comments Jaymie!!
You can't show kids that fear can be overcome, without also showing them fear.
@@nickflix8657 hay why not a full reaction to return to wizard of oz
I’m so glad you finally watched this! The score by David Shire is honestly my favorite film score of all time. Also, the reason that Scarecrow, Tin Woodman, and the Cowardly Lion look different is because their designs in Return to Oz are actually based on the original book illustrations from 1900-1918, before the 1939 Wizard of Oz film was even made! So these designs are the “original” ones. If you like the story of Return to Oz, I’d recommend reading the Oz book sequels. They all have really ingenious plots like this film.
I'm totally with you on the books and Shire's score, H W... there was a great expanded CD release of the score a few years ago which is one of my prized possessions.
This movie terrified me, especially the headless witch and the whole first act.
It was the wheeler guys for me, like legitimately traumatized lol
To be honest when the first I saw this movie when I was 6 years old
I WASN'T SCARED OF IT AT ALL I WAS AMAZED BY IT!!!!
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!!
@@notalithiumbarbiedoll3535same 😭😭
The faces of the Nomes (gnomes?) as they move through rock and speak is FANTASTIC!
Very sad this was Walter Murch's first and final film (although he'd won an Oscar for Best Sound Editing for APOCLYPSE NOW, and after directing RETURN TO OZ, he'd win another Sound Editing Oscar for THE ENGLISH PATIENT). But making RETURN TO OZ was such an ordeal (and searching for another directing project even more daunting), he just never tried directing again (which is a true shame as this was a very well-directed movie)
It's true... I was thinking the same thing just watching this now. Murch was very skilled. This will always be one of my favourite childhood films.
Love how this film also follows the “Dorothy meets ‘em in Kansas, she’ll see ‘em in Oz” element.
DOROTHY GALE!!!
The soundtrack terrifyingly blasts as all the heads spin and turn to look at Dorothy…
DOROTHY GALEEEE!
The soundtrack continues to powerfully blast as the headless body of Mombi comes toward Dorothy, as she runs down the corridor, the truly nightmarish visual of headless terrified women screaming at her…
This film is the true definition of a child’s living nightmare, everything that is normally safe and magical is the opposite, the magic doesn’t feel like an escape, the whole sense you feel is one of feeling trapped and stuck in a world where anything awful can and will happen.
I think it’s a perfect sequel, it truly captures the terror of what it is to have a nightmare as a child. Nightmares as an adult you are used to, but nothing ever compares to the true terror of childhood nightmares… they are just so primal and raw, and you naturally are so young and vulnerable so everything does feel greater, more powerful and scarier than you.
“The Wizard of Oz” is the perfect representation of a child’s fantasy, while “Return to Oz” is the perfect representation of a child’s nightmare…
Great reaction!
I think that originally when we first meet Princess Ozma in the book series she's revealed to be: SPOILER
trapped by the wicked witch of the north in the body of a servant boy who's name I've forgotten. Kind of progressive for a time, as good as a 'I'm a girl trapped in a boy's body' story for the early 1900s.
Yeah I remember that. Though it became less progressive when he said he didn't want to be a girl and they said that's how he was born so he must be a girl.
@@DisneyFanatic2364 Excellent counterargument
Also, since you like witches so much, if you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend Bedknobs and Broomsticks. No plot details, but the best way I can describe it is kinda like a mixture of Mary Poppins and Harry Potter.
Yes!!! Cannot wait to see your reaction. It’s not a direct sequel, it’s based on the tone of the books more than the original.
It follows up events in the 39 film so it is a direct sequel.
@@jamesmoyner7499 not a direct sequel in that Disney made it, and so by law, it couldn’t be, even though the books are in the public domain. It also differs tonally.
@@nickmanzo8459 Oh okay. Thank you for clarifying your comment.
The Oz books by Baum were a series. This is based on a subsequent book.
Two books. It combines The Land of Oz and Ozma of Oz.
My personal scariest movie ever. The Exorcist was not half as terrifying as Mombi and the Wheelers.
Right!!
Wait till you see Angelica Houston as the Grand High Witch in The Witches.
The witches and return to oz are both incredibly creepy asf
I was so lucky to find you. I really love your reactions and personality. I'm glad people like you exist. 😊
Thanks so much, glad you like the videos!
This is my ish! 👏🏼💚 the film is more based on the original Oz books by L. Frank Baum than the famous MGM film. Random facts: the ruby slippers were originally silver in the first book “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz”. And the actress, Fairuza Balk is more age appropriate for the character of Dorothy, as she was 9-11 when she started shooting “Return to Oz,” as opposed to a fully developed 16-17 year old Judy Garland portraying a little girl. Oh and the land of Oz in the books is real and not just a dream. Thanks for reacting to this underrated gem! 😊 David Shore, the composer, truly captures the tone for the atmosphere to not only Dorothy’s life in Kansas, but also the whimsical aspect to Oz. The end credits still pull my heart strings and make me feel all emotional 😭😭😂
Honestly this film is so much better than The Wizard of Oz. Seriously deserves more recognition 🙌🖤🖤🖤
@@isobeljohnshoward well I wouldn’t say it’s better. For “The Wizard of Oz”, as a movie, it’s a masterpiece. As an adaptation, not the best, you know.
@@benarts2271 The Wizard of Oz is definitely a masterpiece, that’s for sure. But since Return to Oz is more dark and chilling, it just captivates me so much more 🖤🖤🖤
“Wait, has she been there, too?” Very perceptive reaction, Nick. I love watching your reactions.
I can’t believe the little girl that plays Dorothy also plays Nancy, which if he hasn’t already- I hope he does a reaction to The Craft for Halloween!
Ikr took me years 2 realize that it's Nancy from the craft 😭😭
"The way [Tik-Tok] walks..." There is a man inside, a gymnast named Michael Sundin who had to bend his 5'5" frame inside the 4' creation. With his head bent almost to his legs, he walked... backwards. Alas, he passed away at age 28, a casualty of AIDS.
Jack Pumpkinhead, Billina, Tik-Tok, the Gump, Mombi (who here is a combined character with another character named Langwidere), and the Nome King (correct spelling) are all characters from the first two 'Wizard of Oz' sequel books, and pretty faithfully presented; elements like the Deadly Desert and the Wheelers are also from the books. Seeing the Gump flying in front of the full moon with Jack's head visible in silhouette warms the heart of this lifelong Oz fan.
The Oz books are less sunny than people think. The dismembered Tin Woodman's history, for example, is pretty creepy.
You do know that Billina is a hen, lays eggs... "him"???
Haha! I was thinking the same thing about Bilina. But then I thought Himalaya Eggs...just kidding.
Honestly, as a child, I saw THE WIZARD OF OZ and RETURN TO OZ around the same time at the same age, and personally I loved both
Wicked Witch of the West: defeated by bucket of water.
Nome King: defeated by consumption of an egg.
Guess it’s true what they say, “Simple, yet effective.”
WB owns the rights to the original movie, so everything was designed to be more like the book illustrations. The plot is a blend of books 2 & 3 in the series.
It comes up in the later books, but Toto is able to talk in Oz. He just…. Doesn’t.
So how is it a Disney movie soul and Warner Brothers owns the rights.
Me: Rents this movie when I'm around 8, expecting a fun little romp akin to the original musical.
Movie: Electroshock therapy! Decapitated girls! Tin Man and Lion turned to stone! Wheelers being dissolved into sand! A horrifying stop motion Nome King!
They based these more on the books, I believe.
Also, Dorothy is played by Fairuza Balk(who got really hot by "the Craft").
Theres another "Oz"movie which I really enjoy and I think you would down the line Nick. Like this one, it didn't have the rights to the MGM film and its story, but Disney did a few tricks to work around it. "Oz:The Great and Powerful"is a backstory for the Wizard himself taking control of Oz after coming from Kansas, with similar tropes to the original MGM film(real world characters becoming people within Oz, etc;)
No refunds! loll
This movie scared the crap out of me as a kid. A lady who changes her head like a wig? Screeching wheelies? Electroshock therapy??? I was scarred for life!
It's TERRIFYING
So glad David Shire is getting the recognition he deserves for this amazing film score!
So cool to see a new reaction to Return to Oz! I believe the wheelers and Princess Mombi’s heads scarred us all for life. 😅 I feel kind of bad for kids who saw this in a dark theater not knowing what was coming. I’ve always appreciated the weird and eerie atmosphere though
This movie combines elements of The Land of Oz, book #2, which told the story of Kip, Mombi, Jack Pumpkinhead, & the Gump. It ends with the revelation that Princess Ozma of Oz had been turned into Kip.
Ten to eleven year old Dorothy returns in book #3, Ozma of Oz. Dorothy was on a ship lost in a storm & found herself & Billina in a magical land *outside* of Oz, ruled by the evil Gnome King! She encounters the lunch pail tree, the Wheelers, TikTok, & the witch who collects heads & has the trinket room.
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, by L. Frank Bahm, was published in the 1890s. Ten year old Dorothy really was transported to the magical land of Oz, where she encountered little people in blue clothes called Munchkins, where the Witch of the North told Dorothy she had to ask the Wizard in the Emerald City to send her home.
The Scarecrow, Tin Man (who tells Dorothy his name was Nick Chopper & the "dark" story of how he became tin), & the Cowardly Lion are depicted precisely like the the famous illustrations in all of Bahm's books. (There were 12 or 14 in total.)
We, the fans of the novels, were absolutely thrilled when this movie came out, *especially* by the fact that they FINALLY cast a child actress the right age to be Dorothy!!! I absolutely love the animated versions of Jack, the Scarecrow (who sees better out of his big eye than his small one), the Tin Man, & the Lion!!
This movie is a love letter to us.
When the original was made, it was reworked to be a vehicle for teen star Judy Garland, who was close to ten years too old for the role! The production team mistakenly believed that, by binding her chest, she could pass for 14... Year, right. She was obviously a teenager acting like a little girl!
And, with animation limited to cel animation, they had to redesign her companions so that actors could play them. Imagine how disappointed the fans of the books were on seeing them!
The 19th century had a dangerous fascination with electricity, thinking it was a magical cure all. Hence the shock therapy that was supposed to "cure" Dorothy of her delusions.
My major disappointment with this movie is that -- when the Gnome King takes physical form -- he looks HUMAN!!! Yes, I understand they were echoing the dream conceit from the bad first movie, so the Gnome King looks like the evil doctor, but why couldn't they have created a caricature of the actor while keeping the Gnome King aesthetic from the book? I WANTED TO SEE THE PLUMP GNOME KING!!!
Yes, Glinda is the Good Witch of the South.
Did you notice how everytime someone guessed incorrectly the Nome King would become more human and then it would reverse when Dorothy guessed correctly.
I love all the parallels between Dorothy's world and Oz. The squealing of the orderlies' wheels and the deranged patients' wailing become the Wheelers (who by the way somehow didn't frighten me as a kid, I think the Nome King bothered me the most, the Wheelers just have such cool costumes and means of transport). Then of course they turn good and back in Dorothy's world, the search party is all played by the actors who played the Wheelers. Nice little easter egg. Also more subtly creepy is the head nurse behind bars like Mombi, it makes you wonder what the hell she and Dr. Worley were doing to the patients.
I love the symbolism of the nurse's two-faced, deceptive nature being represented by Mombi (same actress) literally changing faces and personalities as it suits her.
The Nome King was more stingy then evil....or maybe both 🤔
“Absolute nightmare fuel.”
- Some poor adult who saw this at a young age revisiting it.
ME
I was looking forward to this reaction.
So as a little girl absolutely LOVING the Wizard of OZ and then seeing this movie, I saw it in theaters, I was about 5 years old I think, it was TRAUMATIZING. I had nightmares about this movie for weeks and in my mind it was a horror movie and I never was able to watch it again until I was an adult and even then I was shaking revisiting it lol
No kidding, I've probably seen this movie over a hundred times growing up. This is a very dark toned kids movie and I love it. A couple of other things I like there is no singing and there are no munchkins THANK GOD. Hell my favorite color is green because of the emeralds and green imagery toward the end, I think I'm borderline obsessed with this movie 😅
I like this movie fully for the realistic twist it gives. The first once was truly whimsical and a classic but this one is so dark. Dorothy comes back and talks about OZ to her family who are clearly worried about her mental health. The electric shocks and mombi scene was even more terrifying then a I remember.
And while electric therapy still exists today, you cant give more then a bit of shock barely a twig like a jumpstart to the nerves to stabilise and that too in the most rare and extreme cases.
The Electric therapy Dorothy was going to be submitted too would’ve left her comatose because it’s electric therapy in the experimental stage.
I like how we still don’t get if it was a dream or reality. Thanks for the reaction! ❤️
It's so funny to think that that little girl grew up to be the witchy girl in The Craft.
I saw Return to OZ during its (vanishingly short, it turns out) theatrical run as a child. I was probably one of the four or five kids who were fascinated-terrified instead of just, well, terrified. It is exquisitely crafted beautiful nightmare fuel because the practical effects and stop-motion animation are SO good! Thank you for reviewing it!
Please watch "PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES"! Best Thanksgiving movie ever!
Plan on it!
This was one of my favorite childhood movies! See 'The Wiz' staring Michael Jackson and Diana Ross
I think The look for Tin Man, scarecrow & The Lion in this is based of the books.
In the 80's Disney made 3 films that are unofficially called their "scary movie for kids trilogy".
The Watcher in the Woods (1980)
Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983)
Return to Oz (1985)
Who knew the little girl, who played Dorothy, would go on to play a witch in The Craft?
Thank you so much for seeing this, Nick. I know it's not a patch on the original, but it was hugely underrated in its day.
They did a story error because the robot says he can’t feel sorry, no matter what happens but then later in the movie when they’re about to be turned into ornaments, he cries. That’s OK though it’s cute so I’ll allow it.
Another movie error is they never show the chicken being put in Jack’s head. I assumed that she fell in there, but she fell beside him, so I’m confused on how she got in his head. Also, it’s weird how Tiktok can’t turn into stone, but he can get turned into an ornament..
Loved this one! The Scarecrow, Lion and Tin Man look like the original illustrations from the books.
It’s not the most official sequel, but it’s an awesome movie.
I finally got up the courage to rewatch this movie last month, for the first time since I saw it when I was a kid, which was about 25 years ago, I'm not sure how old I was at the time. My grandparents rented it for us 4 grandkids to watch, having no idea how dark it was. It terrified us all. My grandma had to stop the tape. Then she took me aside cause I was the oldest and said if I wanted to finish it I could. I didn't really want to but I wanted to see what happened, so I watched the rest. The things that I always remembered from it were the Wheelers, the headless stone statues, and Mombi with the interchangable heads, the wheelers turning into sand and even when Dorothy first discovers Tick Tock I found that creepy. To me it was like she's trapped in this room with some creepy figure that's going to come to life. Jack was creepy to me too. It's just the kind of vibes and feel to it and the characters. And of course the Gnome King at the end when he eats them. Then after all this time I watch it and when the Wheelers first appeared a chill ran up my spine, but right away we see that it's just a hat on their head and that's not really what their faces are. They're just like people underneath and they're actually goofy. And the part where the Wheeler disolves into sand happened so fast, I remember as being such a huge disturbing deal. Surprisingly I didn't remember the Shock Therapy part at the start. When I watched it this time, I was so nervous cause I had no idea how far they were going to go with it, it was really disturbing.
"She has a chicken with her!"
*A chicken!*
I've never seen this movie before but man, that line killed me! XD
The Gnome King doesnt allow chickens anywhere in Oz!!
When I watched this movie as a kid, I was so shocked how dark this movie was! Enjoyed the reaction!!!!
I find it very humorous when people watch Return to Oz, expecting it to be like Wizard of Oz with Judy Garland then get somewhat disappointed when its not at all like it. The thing is though, its not supposed to be like that movie at all, its meant to be more faithful to the actual books which are much more grim and dark than the famous glamorous adaptation of the book. That version of the film took so much creative freedom to a point that I actually like Return to Oz better due to its faithfulness and mood. Is it a little cheesy and campy? Yes, but I think it adds to the charm of it.
Personally, I adore grim childhood stories over the fluff children are resorted to these days. In the wise words of Don Bluth, animator of Secret of Nimh and Black Cauldron, children can handle any kind of grim story to give them as long as there's a happy ending. its a shame that this kind of mindset is lost in the film industry today.
I remember watching this film as a kid, and it was really scary!
I think Princess Mombi and her museum of heads, was terrifying, but what scared me more was the Nome Kings final appearance and attempting to devour Dorothy’s friends!
Overall it is a good film.
The head nurse/Mombi actress also played the evil sorceress Bavmorda in Willow.
And that is a movie with an INCREDIBLE score
I'm glad you liked this film. I used to watch it all of the time growing up. It is based on the 2nd and 3rd original books. they changed a little bit. the hospital stuff isn't in the books etc. it's neat how they use that and the parallels of them in oz and the actors in their other parts. (jean marsh was Ms Wilson and Mombi etc)
One of my favorite parts about this movie is that just about every character in those packed shots at the end, with the parade, are specific characters from the Oz books. Glynda, the Patchwork Girl, General Jinjur, the Frog Man, and so on. So much effort for a scene that only lasts a couple minutes.
this is how any oz movie and it's characters are supposed to look, set in victorian times this one is superior.
An excellent follow-up to The Wizard of Oz. I was listening to you at the beginning when you were saying "The music makes it creepier than it probably is" and I was like "Oh, he has NO IDEA what he's in for with this movie. lol You should do Tom and Jerry and the Wizard of Oz. Its hilarious. And SHOCKINGLY enough, despite all the creepy elements to this movie (like the headless Queen Mombi and the Wheelers and the fact that they wanted to use electric shock therapy ON A CHILD to make her forget Oz....this movie is only rated PG.
Holy shit. Never in my life did I ever expect to see a reaction for this
So glad you reacted to this, I feel like no one I know has seen it!
I was one of those weirdos who loved this as a child.
P.S., your "oh, I do!" at 5:12 was so cute.
This is _very_ different from the 1939 musical, but that kind of makes sense. While the 1939 musical is the most well known adaptation of the books, it wasn't technically the first and definitely isn't the only one. In a few ways, this film is closer to the books, which did have their creepy and violent moments.
You should react to Sci-Fi Tin Man. It's a mini series that's a continued story of Oz.
Fun reaction. If you like this, you might want to check out the Oz books by L. Frank Baum, where most of these characters and story elements came from. They're filled with some truly bizarre stuff. "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is just the beginning.
oh my gosh yes this movie is great! i know you love music in movies so i definitely recommend watching " The Wiz". its like the wizard of oz but 100 times better and with music, Michael Jackson is even in it as the scarecrow and Diana Ross as Dorothy , along with other amazing actors. it was my fav movie as a kid :)
The wiz is the Wizard of Oz
@@sheluvssmokedupeyes1 it’s literally a different version called “the Wiz”
Yay!! I saw this in the theatre as a kid and I liked it a lot. I am glad you're discovering it!
Dorothy: *sees ruby slippers* "My ruby Slippers!!"
Nome King: "no...my ruby Slippers... They just sorta fell outta the sky one day..."
My favorite part is when he crumbled to his death and Dorothy finally got her ruby slippers back!!
Stg that Nome King is evil but mostly Stingy at best
I’ve always thought of this as a Tim Burton version of Oz. I watched this quite a few times as a kid and started reading the book, buut I didn’t finish it. If I wasn’t already fine with horror by the time I watched this, I probably would have had nightmares.
Tim Burton's Wizard of Oz is something I'd DIE to see.
I loved your reaction to this. I first saw the film at the cinema when I was 8 years old, and it's remained one of my favourite movies ever since. This and 'Honey I Shrunk the Kids' are two childhood comfort films I still watch at least once ever few years. Although I must admit 'Return to Oz' did scare me a bit as a kid, but the first time watching I had to pretend I wasn't scared so my mum wouldn't make us leave the cinema, lol. :)
Tim Burton saw this movie and was inspired by Jack Pumpkinhead to create the character of Jack Skellington, the pumpkin king
I first heard of this film through comments on the song "Return to Oz" ("Is this the return to Oz? The grass is dead, the gold is brown, and the sky has claws") so I was more or less prepared going in!
My favourite movie as a kid! Definitely prefer it to the original 🙌🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
So glad you watched the sequel. I love it. Such a different tone and experience to the first. Fun fact: this movie is the closet to how Oz and the characters looked in the books. The writer himself said this movie is the closest to the vision he had for Oz. You should check out the drawings. Scarecrow, Tinman and Lion look exactly like they did in the books.
12:40 The original "The Wizard of Oz" never mentioned the Deadly Desert. That's from the books. This movie is very loosely based on the next two books in the series.
23:10 It's only PG, and it was correct back then.
23:40 The characters' designs were based on the illustrations of Baum's original books.
Return To Oz will always be a masterpiece in my heart. 😭😭😭❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥✨✨✨
I saw this movie a couple of times when I was pretty young. For years after that I would ask people if they remembered it. For over 15 years I could never find anyone who had even heard of it. When I would describe it to people they just thought I was crazy. I started wondering if I had made the whole thing up. I find that funny now because the movie is about a girl who explains a crazy story that nobody believes.
Of course this was before the internet. Also I'm sure someone else has mentioned this by now but Dorothy was played by Fairuza Balk who is the main which in The Craft.
I recall a family friend having this movie on VHS. I would see it whenever I would visit and look through the VHS collection they had when I wanted watch. But I never wanted to watch this one cause the cover image always creeped me out lol. But the movie looks interesting at least for visuals and whatnot. But loved your shock to those dark moments and as well as the reactions to the characters and all.
Just so you know, this film has elements more from the original books than the ‘39 film, other than the ruby slippers (which Disney had to pay a fee to include as in the books they were silver).
One of the many perks of being a kid in the 80's. So many creepy/terrifying films and they were only given a PG rating.
This movie terrified me as a kid...and to be honest, it still kind of does.
The way I jumped when the first Wheeler appeared
Especially when you get into how super fucked up mental hospitals were back in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
I was a year old when this movie first came out. I saw it years later on the Disney Channel and I loved it.
They were going to attempt electroshock therapy on her which is pretty seriously scary, it was lucky the power went out when it did or the movie would have been *really* short. Return to Oz is criminally underrated though.
Thanks, Nick! 🟢
The looks for The Scarecrow, Tin Man and Lion in this movie matches the illustrations of the characters in the book “The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz.”
this was the first movie i rented from netflix back when they sent discs in envelopes via mail lol
oh my goodness wHAT? i've been waiting SO LONG for someone to acknowlage this movie!!! I actually started to give up and believe no one would notice it!! I'm so glad, I vividly remember the Wheelers. I will say its an odd movie, but the scary parts do great!
This is the most authentic portrayal of Oz on film.
(Not counting Baums silent films from the early 1900’s)
Also.. the doctor and nurse at the start were going to perform shock therapy on Dorothy. They were sinister .. hence you could hear all the damaged patients screaming, locked in the cellar from their brains being fried.
It’s kinda fucked up.
Medical science has always been a frightening practice until relatively recently. Lobotomies were considered to be a normal treatment for depression until the 70’s.
@@TheJabbate1 yes absolutely … and having it as a main subject in a children’s movie makes it all more horrific.
My man looked at electro shock like it was nothing.
Lol, this aired on TV a lot when I was a child. I was too young to understand the darker themes though, so they just flew over my head. 😂
BTW, can you please do *Don Bleuth's Thumbelina* or *Mune: Guardian of the Moon,* Nick? I think both movies have excellent, colorful visuals.
L. Frank Baum wrote a series of 14 books about Oz, starting with the first one, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz in 1900. (You can find this and all the books on line WITH the original drawings, which are VERY close to the way they look in this movie.) The book is much scarier than the musical.
MGM bought the rights to the first book and made the 1939. In the books, as in this movie, Dorothy really goes to Oz, it isn't a dream. And there was basically no Kansas sequence with characters who reappear in Oz. About three paragraphs into the story, the tornado comes along and whisks Dorothy off to Oz.
Disney purchases the rights to the other Oz books. Return to Oz is basically a blending of the second and third books, Land of Oz and Ozma of Oz. In this movie, the Oz characters appear in Kansas, while in the MGM movie, the Kansas real people show up in Oz. (I think brilliant.)
The first book I ever read was Ozma of Oz and this movie really brings that book to life, even though it is such a shock in being different to the MGM one.
The book series, (which has 14 books.) is actually closer in tone to this film. And yeah it's weird..
The Tin Man story that Dorothy tells Dr. Worley is the origin story that Baum writes for The Tin Man. Censors in 1939 never allowed that story into The Wizard Of Oz.
Loved this film. Mombi is my favorite Disney princess. 👍😳😂😂😉