2017 BRAND NEW Cafe Racer 125's
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- A mountain of 125 Learner legal bikes. This episode we concentrate on 4 NEW cafe racers and see which is best. Join us and have your say; we don't think you will be disappointed.
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LOL, we only rode about 8 ft off camera, then stopped
I had guessed so, but I just found it hilarious when it happened. Anyway, great vid, I actually watched it just for the Bullit Spirit cause I'm in love with it but the whole vid was nice. It'd be great if you could make an entire vid on that one, including a driving test and everything because I'm considering buying it and can't find any test...
We are back there tomorrow filming bobbers/choppers and you are not the only one to ask that. I will see what I can do.
Alright, thanks a lot
Really enjoyed this walk around. Thanks
Nobody died! Keep at it, I think you will be fine - good effort for your first attempt, I did not know that.
Regards
The Bullitt Hunt looks identical to the Hanway Raw 125 which also comes in a 50cc fuel-injected version for 2018. I expected the bike to be smaller. It's modeled after the Triumph Bonneville.
Bullit exhaust sound is super classy
Cheers for these reviews, really hard to find others doing Chinese bike reviews. Any chance you can do one on the Hanway 125s?
Thanks for your uploads.
I own a Bullit Spirit and love it for the looks and the fun of driving it.
Today at the Brussels Motorshow I fell in love with the FB MONDIAL 125 HPS.
A bit the opposite of you. ;-)
Looking forward to more video's.
a fan from Flanders (Belgium)
Aha, similar tastes! Thank you...glad you are enjoying the bike!
I have buy a black7 125 last year, and i’m loving it!
In italy we don’t have so many 125’ cafe Racers .
Great Video !
good video. keep them coming
Id love to own one cafe racer...
i was looking for some of this bikes then read a comment about mutt motorcycles and got in love with the big tyres and overall look and size
i'm sorry its just the tire i have a caf too and really the original tire slip A LOT on wet concrete, i wreck my face on the floor because of that :p, but for the rest i'm happy with my bike ! i would love to have a shop like yours !
Although it's just a 50cc, when i start the engine from my Mash Dirt Track a big smile appears and lots of people wave at me when I'm cruising on that beauty :D Hope to get on an 125cc one day, for me that's good enough.
You are right about the Bullit...That was my favorite of the bikes you showed...Lovely bike...
really enjoy wathing your videos mate. keep it up!! I am interested in the mash black 7. would love to see you do a detailed review video on it. maybe a testdrive. as i could not find one in english anywhere on youtube. thanks again for your videos.
We hope to do more detailed reviews on several bikes
I've got a Black Seven. AMA
Nice cafe racer
I am from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Skyteam ace is a perfect looking bike
It is a clone of the Honda Dream 50, but with a more useable 125 engine, and yes, beautiful.
Very nice collection presentable ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love your channel
I am taking my CBT test later this week and I am looking for a new 125 bike. I like the GSX S125 from suzuki but if I'm been honest I am really drawn to the cafe racer style. I have been looking at a list of bikes but I am not sure which one to go with. The bikes I'm considering are the Mondial HPS , Skyteam Ace, AJS Cadwell Clubman and the Bullit Spirit. To be honest the Spirit is by far the best looking of those 4 but I like the other 3 as well. I am concerned about the 9hp engine that the AJS and the ACE have, I am only 5'9 but I am a well built chap and weigh close to 16st. How well do you think those engines can cope with a larger person? and which bike would you recommend out of those 4?
Hi, congratulations on entering the bike world. Personally I like the Mondial...as that is what I chose as it uses the Piaggio (Aprilia RS4) engine, looks stunning and is well built with 13.6HP and looks like a 400 sized biked. Bullit is also as stunning, but £1000 cheaper than the mondial and the Cadwell clubman is also stunning. The Skyteam Ace also looks great but is small for me and I feel you will think the same.If you can have a seat and ask someone to take a picture of you sitting on each bike you like; I find that really helps.
Hi thanks for the reply. I do travel 30-40 minutes to work and back on a daily basis and it seems as if the Ace would be less comfortable for long periods due to that sporty seating position. I think I am leaning towards the Spirit at the moment, the extra bit more power compared to the AJS and Ace makes me think it would be more suitable for someone of my weight. The mondial is also really nice but it's big price difference, thanks for your advice though, i'll try and find dealers for them in my local area so I can see them all in person.
Thanks for the video.. I'm staggered at how little choice the big 4 offer really.. you are doing a great service to the bikers of tomorrow.. my opinion, the Bullitt and your bike hit the nail on the head... but the others seem a little out of proportion. Good value for money... please, can you do a reassurance piece over reliability and after sales on these 125s.. because, if that's covered, and covered WELL, these should fly off the shelves.. I'm liking the Sunnis Adventure.
Thank you for stopping by and commenting. A follow-up video on these are on the cards!!
Mash is also good Looks
Omg I love cafe race ❤ I'm only 27 years old but I really like classic motorbikes, it makes me drunk like a beautiful girl
Any interesting non Chinese bikes around the same price being made anywhere ?
I’m enjoying your bike videos. Well done on the content & effort.
But I don’t get the 125cc thing. Surely if they built that Bullit Spirt in a decent size cc it would be the best selling bike out there, because it’s fantastic looking.
Hi, With the UK having a huge learner legal market and with driving tests getting harder, car insurance getting ridiculous, many more are turning to the 125 motorbike range, hence the dramatic increase in variety.
Motors for the Masses that makes sense. I thought it would be something along those lines.
There’s some fantastic looking 125cc bikes you’ve featured, including the FB Mondial.
But these brilliant looking bikes would surely cater for the bigger cc market, at a reasonable price. I think the Royal Enfield 650cc is a good example of catering to that demand.
They are soon releasing a 300 FB Mondial too
Hopefully you’ll give your impressions on the Royal Enfields 650 once they’re released. Should be interesting to hear your thoughts.
I haven’t seen any Mash 400 reviews on this channel but I’ll have a look.
Not yet but due...
Bring that here in the Philippines.. 😊
Kindly tell me price details of bullit in Indian money
now if only that Bullit had a proper engine... wish someone would import these chinese bikes but engine swap them before putting them on sale, even something weak like a GS500 engine in them be cool. I suppose getting an engine supply from a major manufacturer is hard, Rotax 904 would be an amazing cafe racer engine.
The Mighty Dash The only decent one of these Chinese 125s is the FB Mondial which has a genuine Aprilia engine, otherwise they ALL have that shitty garbage CG125/GN125 copy engine block.
@@ventisette. the bullets and mash have the old Suzuki gn125 engine as you state bit it's actually a pretty good motor and capable of 70 on a good day which is a good 5 mph better than an old honda CG and on par with most modern 125 motors if you exclude yzf, gsx , aprillia race reps that touch the maximum 14.5 ISH hp allowed by law but which are in general heavier and twice the cost of the Chinese produced stuff.
What is the cost of this bike in Indian currency . will it be available in Indian market to buy
Excellent vid!!!!!, I'll sub wright now!
Great to have you!
Hermosas felicitaciones gringo en Perú serían un bombón xq no abres tienda en Perú brother
Good videos,i like them. How about hanway bikes? Any chance for a review about them?
What's the bike between the Keeway Superlight and the Zontes?
Hi, that is the Sinnis Hoodlum 125
Id want one
Great vid, i find what i like(Bullit Spirit 125) but no dealer near place i live(Slovakia) :(
If you email the dealer in the link; tell them you saw the bike on Motors for the Masses; Ask them if they will ship to you...?
you bought it?
Great video! I am considering buying the bullit spirit. But i am afraid that it might be to hard to ride. Is the seating position good? Would it be to hard for the back and harms? It would be my first motorcycle, should I consider something with a more upright seating position? Would the Bullit hunt or the Mash Black Seven be a better choice? Is a Cafe Racer that comfortable? If someone could share some thoughts on this it would be great!
If you can, I would try and at least sit on one with your feet on the pedals. You want to be comfortable, but you also want to be happy with your choice. If you can ride, you will get used to anything you buy. It also depends on your height as that can affect your centre of gravity. I ALWAYS recommend trying before buying.
Thanks for your reply! I have sat on the bullit spirit. Feels good. I am 173cm tall. I feel that it would be ok for my height, but i have never had a motorcycle so i am not really sure if it would be comfortable for the normal day to day distances and a few trips on the weekend. I live around 10km from work. On the weekends, from time to time I would say drive for a couple of hours, 100km at best. I will check it again and have a seat on it. My doubts are more about the long term. Thanks!
I say go for what you like...then comfortable, or not, you will enjoy riding it as you would be happy on it.
Motors for the Masses do you think a height of 6.2 (190cm‘s) is ok for this bike (bullit spirit). I guess I‘ll like the foward hunching but the seat-height and stuff I‘ not sure about. What do you think?
I hope someday you gonna have motor company here in the philippines and I wanna buy your retro cafe racer. I really love it.
Might be an idea, to err, ride these bikes??
Old video...things have changed
Hi! I was considering getting myself a scrambler type bike and have stumbled upon several modela I really like, however I'm concerned over the quality since they all appear to be chinese made. The models in question would be the Brixton bx, Mash black seven, Verve Scrambler and Hanway raw, all 125 cc.
Any help please?
Hi, there are several to choose from and I understand Chinese made can be a minefield but where some are terrible, some are fantastic. Mash have a good reputation and seem pretty good. We have reviewed some, see below for the links and see what you think...
czcams.com/video/iBCUBRm0g2Y/video.html&t
here is the Mash 400 scrambler but gives you an idea what they are like:
czcams.com/video/t6eDUFlXu_g/video.html&t
here is the Bullit Hero, vs Hanway HS scrambler. I have heard good things about the Hero from owners and I think it looks and sounds amazing. The Hanway is nice to ride but seems to be better for smaller riders.
czcams.com/video/a9x72iJvoWo/video.html&t
Motors for the Masses Thank you so much!!
Good video.
Hi have you had any problems with the bullit spirit I’ve not add mine long and the engine management lights come on and don’t run right?
Today i bought a Bullit Hero, but i love caféfe racers, so my idea is transform a Hero into a caffe racer.
How is the bullit hero treating you?
The question is buy the Bullet hero or the spirit?
2 VERY different riding experiences. If you want a retro meets modern scrambler, get the Hero, if you like Cafe racers, get the spirit
I really like the look of them both, while I prefer the sound and the upright stance of the Hero more. I am 5,7ft, you think it is suitable for riding the Hero?
How about their UNECE Regulations? Are they all comply to that regulation.. here in Malaysia now implementing Euro3 for R40 and R41... Emission and noise..
We are on Euro 4 regs now. New bikes need to adhere to E4 regs; fuel injection, lights always on etc
Good looking bikes for a project, but the wheels are so small?? Would look quite a bit better with some bigger wheels
Hi, fair enough; which bikes are you meaning? Or all of them?
The first two :) I've always liked the ace but it is a bit too small. Im greatly in love with the Bullit spirit
Me too; love that spirit. I see what you mean about the first 2 but the wheel sizes look ok to me. The Ace actually has an 18 inch wheel. Does feel little when on it but very close to its 50's/60's pedigree
Id rather have an original Honda Dream 50 than that ;) Yeah the Spirit is a bit expensive but you get some really cool features and a very very nice looking bike
Can you Bring AJS DD 125 ? duel pipes one please!!! I am thinking to get one of those it would be nice to see thanks
That is certainly possible
@@motorsforthemasses Thanks ever so much, Duel pipes have sexier looks than all others 125cc for CBT riders
Hi, can you tell me something about orcal astor 125. Thanks
Orcal Astor is not so popular in UK. Mash is the closest equivalent, or the AJS with the Cadwell, or Tempest. I personally feel the AJS are a better bike overall.
Bullit is nice looking ❤❤❤❤❤
Have to ask about warranties, 'bout the Co.'s that make them IE how long have they been around so I can locate spares if needed, What japanese Co are they clones of & what model engine exactly. Where can i check out a review of each from a source thats ridden one continously for 3K miles. Admittedly I like the skyteam, not only for the price but because I can work on carburettors & tune it for preformance inexpensivley, I'd change the tank, seat & handlebars though. Reliability is the most important thing IMO
One thing to note with the ace is tuning seems to be a requirement to actually get anywhere near the quoted 9hp, heard it gets 5bhp with the stock exhaust etc.
Hi, the Skyteam I believe comes with a 1 year warranty and the 2 Bullit bikes come with a 2 year warranty. Spares are actually quite readily available from the dealers but I don't think there are any reviews of a 3,000 mile ownership; especially the Bullit spirit as that is too new. The Skyteam is good for around 60 but probably not much more without a tune. I understand reliability is important and to be fair I have not heard any horror stories as yet on these.
dentistguba
I had a skyteam ace . It ran really lean and took ages to warm up. I believe this is because it has to be Euro compliant. You can get a kit to make it faster and run better.
Sounds intriguing. Any video?
I loved the ace , slow as f@#k but scary because of drum brakes and Chinese tires
Lol
What are they like for reliability and spares availability though? I've been told to steer away from chinese copies of engines but I really like this style of bike
The layman often advise 'steer clear of Chinese engines' but very few people have understanding.A lot of people go but old technologies and designs and base their opinions on old.....the same used to be said for Japanese bikes. What a lot of people don't realise is that small capacity Yamaha, Suzuki are Chinese built. Honda, Thailand. The engines are not usually an issue, they USED to be mild steel instead of stainless and poor electrics. The game has changed a lot; but a lot of it is down to maintenance. Cheaper bikes are usually bought by people who either don't want to spend stupid money on Japanese branded 125's or cannot afford to, and often what comes with that is no desire to maintain it properly. We have seen some horrendous CBR's and YZF's due to poor upkeep, and some amazing looking and running Chinese bikes due to how people look after them.
Is it posible to upgrade thos 125 to 150?
its possible if you have knowledge on engines
Can you get a review for the sinnis hoodlum? Not much videos out there on this interesting bike cheers
We did one yesterday.....here: czcams.com/video/DT9daggI77Y/video.html
Motors for the Masses ah wow thanks! Much appreciated . Great vids :)
Thank you...and enjoy
What motorcycle did you get in the store?
brand
model
I bought the FB Mondial 125
very beautiful.
When the test in bullit hero
It is coming in a few weeks. The one we were going to review was sold, another came in but we were already reviewing something else...then that sold. Another due soon! It is coming.....sorry for the delay
Where is this shop am intrested in buying cafe bike and what model n cc bike is your looks wicked
Hi, this shop is in Lowestoft, UK. The link is in the description, please mention this channel when you email or call them. Ask them if they can ship one to you. Mine is the FB Mondial, also from this shop.
I have a question since these bikes are considered unknown universally are parts availability guaranteed at all? Thanks!
There were issues with previous bike makes and models re: parts availability and that is why this dealer only deals in certain ones so parts availability is pretty good.
Icansee u These China crap bikes are all pretty much the same. Honda CG or Suzuki GN licensed engines sold under at least 15 different brand names. Quality might not be the best but parts availability is generally good as...they’re all the same.
Where did you get the brown stripes that you have on the tank?
Hi, I cut them from a piece of fablon; have a look here....links are in the description: czcams.com/video/f0c1n5LJ1Hw/video.html
Motors for the Masses thank you very much, really appreciate your vids, looking forward to another episode about modifications on your hps!
what about tractors and walking tractors get some really good uns
Is there much difference between the Bullit spirit green and the hanway black cafe racer 125 ?
Not a lot, both very similar in style and ride.Hanway a tad taller perhaps.
Name of the helmet in the first part?
Hi have you done a review on the sinnis cafe racer?
Hi, we haven't done that one yet but will see what we can do.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Motors for the Masses no worries. Enjoying the videos 👍
125 is the motorcycle Cc?
because i own a hyusong, but it is 250Cc not 125.
a bit confusing...
Video is great...
good video to learn more about cafe racer before own one.
Hi, yes 125 is the CC. The GTR 250 is essentially the same bike as the 125 version, except an extra front brake disc and bigger engine. We have just done a review of the Hyosung 125 - czcams.com/video/yPMAMqOZX9E/video.html
Hi, great channel. These cafe racer style bikes looks dope. One question, i hope you can find me. Can you point me in right direction? Im looking for this style of bike, preferably new and also affordable but in bigger CC verison, 250 to 650, cafe racer style, bobber etc. Can you think of any that are reliable and affordable? Could be Chinese Thank you very much
What about these? czcams.com/video/t6eDUFlXu_g/video.html&t
How can I get one of these bikes in California
440cc would make these bikes awesome
what bike are u using now mate?, nice bike...
Hi, I currently do not have a bike roadworthy, but am building the 1978 Honda 400 four Cafe Scrambler hybrid!
Mash 125cc looks quiet nice. Considering buying one of them myself however I have been advised that bike made in China are not very reliable for longer period of time and spares are difficult to get a hold of due to these bikes not being very popular in UK... I am keen to ask if this is a case that bikes from China are unreliable and that parts for these bikes are difficult to get? I am new to the bikes therefore my knowledge is limited about them.
Sadly, older reputations tar ALL Chinese bikes and where that was once true, there are so many great Chinese bikes now. Some of the companies are huge and have come on leaps and bounds, example Keeway, who own Benelli. There can be a few small issues but afterall they are often half the price of Japanese bikes (a lot of which Japanese such as Yamaha and Honda outsource their smaller cc bike manufacturing to China now anyway). Mash are a French/China company and are huge in France. My dad and my brother both ride Mash bikes and love them. All that happened with my brothers' 125 was a bar end weight came loose, and we replaced it; and an EMLight came on which we reset...that is it.
Ih, as for parts, most importers in the UK hold a huge spare parts stock of the popular parts anyway which is a 1-2 day turnaround. Everything has issues at some point. A friend had a New Ducatti at £11k which needed to go back after a week and took 2 weeks to fix.
@@motorsforthemasses Thank you for the prompt reply, information has been useful. It did crossed my mind that most off the issues may apply more for the older bikes compared to the new ones as most of the reviews and videos that I seen were from 2015 to 2017. As long as the issues are not very expensive and major I do not mind DIY on the bikes. It doesn't put me off from buying one, in fact it is another reason why I wish to buy a bike, so not only I could use it for cruising around counties but also put my hands on the engines it self.
Anyways, thank you for sharing your experience on these kind of bikes, this definitely encouraged me on getting one for sure. Who knows, if I am in the area I may pop in into your shop to have a browse and hopefully leave with one of your bikes.
@@sauliuspaltanavicius4106 You are always welcome!
What’s the bike you always drive in on at the beginning of each vid ?
FB Mondial. See our channel for old review and recent updates.
Ah Thank you , also would there be any chance of a Bullit Spirit driving review?
Has a Chinese 125 ever been made with the absolute limit in hp? Why is it that they seem to be so underpowered ? Has any ever been made with even 14 bhp?
could you do a review on a Brixton BX125X for us Dutchies?
Very few of them about I'm afraid and very similar to the Mash bikes
@@motorsforthemasses That's alright, i'll continue my own research then. Have a nice day!
890mm seat height? I dont think so! :)
Yes, you are right. I apologise; this was our first bike video and I got the specs from here: www.bikez.com/motorcycles/skyteam_ace_2016.php
Hence my word apparently and I apologise I did not check that. My bad!
which one is the base bike of your cafe racer bike?
My Monidal? It is the FB Mondial. An Italian company, started in the 1940's, made race bikes, went out of business in the 1970's. Now built in China but use Piaggio engines (exactly the same engine as the Aprilia RS4 and Derbi 125R)
Here is the review on mine: czcams.com/video/Ak6Ie9QBmS4/video.html
thanks man you are grate...
Why it look so much like Lexmoto bike?
What is song your video.
All links are in the description
Bike Company's selling small little bike's & tagging them a cafe racers is just a marketing scheme.
Do you think it works? Of course there will be some (many perhaps) that say these are not 'real' cafe racers but I feel it brings through a whole new range of interest in the style from new bikers.
Cafe a scooter then, its a silly bar hopper.
Motors for the Masses
News flash, everything is a marketing scheme. Companies make products people want to buy, and name them accordingly. It's not a bad thing
It's better to see more small nice looking bikes on the streets than all those plastic scooters or only those fat bikes ("the fatter the better" as here in Krautland)
Do you actually have ANYTHING for sale that’s not made in China?
We don't sell them, just review them
a plethora
because of legal restrictions in the EU all engines must & will be castrated! On big bikes this problem is not as great as on such small bikes. So you must take an old bike and build your own cafe racer.
Which is what we are doing.
Motor cycles ?
Omggg just 2400pounddd I wish they would be sold in Israel
The only things sold in Israel are Palestinian tears
Come over here, buy one, and drive it home!! Good luck with that :o)
the 100 club? hahahahahaha you know it means 100 miles an hour not cc's.
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