Best tdfs for a long time then and they are only now starting to be better again Jonas, poggi, remco, roglic Mvdp und wva Exciting again i have to say And good to see froome being done. Those were disgusting days
Never heard before those stages with a not italian commentary, I love to hear how Phil Lidgett and Paul Sherwen had kind of reverence for Marco. Repeatedly calling him The Pirate, emphasizing that he still was the best climber in the world and the par excellence threat to make the race explode, despite the long absence from races and a form that certainly wasn't the best, both physical and mental planes. And they did through all the roller-coaster moments he had in this Tour, touching a certain poetry during last kms to Courchevel that somehow were his Swan song. I got emotional having Cesenatico as second home since childhood, still wearing his bandana and having met his dad.
i have to give you that it was great but we have to admit they where freaking full of epo and other stuff back then i remember 2003 a guy fall after leading a mountain stage that admited years later he got dog hemoglobine^^ i dont say its any better these days but they where butchers back then having to get up every few hours for blood checks to not die ^^ wild times at least the drugs got better or genetic doping will erase any detectabilty anyway
Lance was doing some good acting on stage 16. Phil and Paul were saying Lance is showing signs of weakness. Lance knew damn good and well he was far enough in the lead that he could fall back and try not to look like he's doping. Lance could've won that stage if he really wanted to.
Actually it was real. Reason being was Pantani doing a ferocious pace and Armstrong couldn't keep up. It worried Lance so much that he forgot to refuel which led him to bonk. Pantani in the end was actually doing too hard of a pace that he ended up getting dropped.
8 hours race how did not anyone put one and one together, yes they were all doped and yes this was the most epic times of pro cycling where individuals filled with EPO to the gills dropped world level cyclists in the dust, epic times!!
Damn, Lance should have taken his 7 Jersey's and all his million's back to Texas. And just watched tv for awhile. Things would have been so different for him.
The thing that is mind blowing, is a sports science expert wrote that Armstrong conceivably would have still won those Tours, without the drugs. He stated that Lance was so physically gifted and mentally superior, he didn’t need it. So sad.
Road cycling has a lot of unwritten rule. Never attack teammate, never attack yellow at final race, wait if your team leader crash etc etc. Imo i dont like it but im just nobody
@@muhammadfarhan581 yeah it doesn’t seem fair if you 30 seconds behind the yellow jersey on the final stage you should be allowed to attack and have a go unless it’s your team mate wearing the yellow you can’t attack
@@JohnLee-vj9lh the final stage in paris hasn’t that much difficulty to creat some real time gaps, so even if you choose to attack you would not gain that much time.
@@muhammadfarhan581 while it is an unwritten rule not to attack on the tour d’honeur (the last stage of the tour de france) it is not an unwritten rule not to attack your teammates. it is more part of the job. the team is not just your team but your employer. they come to those tours with a clear plan and personell to achieve this plan. there are leaders with the task of winning general classement, there are the domestiques, who do everything they can to help their respective leaders to achieve it. then there are the riders who hunt single stages, sprinters and so on. everybody has a designated task in those teams. if the leader somehow seems weaker than on of his domestiques the roles can very well switch. jan ullrich startet 1997 as a domestique to reigning champion bjarne rijs. as ullrich had proven, he was the stronger rider an rijs didn’t hav what it takes that year, he gave ullrich the green light to go for the win, for ullrich was the better card to play for his team, who set up to win the thing. cycling is a total team sport.
Greg Lemond commented recently that he feels that pro tour riders are way thinner than during his era. He pointed out that being that thin runs the risk of catabolizing muscle tissue, which is obviously not good.
Came up as a swimmer and triathlete. Was pretty big and muscular for a cyclist before cancer. After cancer he was 10-15 lbs. lighter, but still had a muscular frame.
This was a great presentation of the tour by you tube. To all of you "doping experts" you have no idea what it takes to do what these cyclists do, so just SHUT UP !
Watching this is bittersweet, because it was one of the best times in my life since Luxembourg and then being in America during the 80s Lemond years and then being duped by Lance and all of cycling completely destroying trust in cycling. I miss these years, but no longer watch any cycling. And all sports as well. They're all garbage. The only 2 that are somewhat digestible are hockey and rugby.
I don't care about the people who complained about the doping back then... it was the most fascinating time of cycle with the greatest riders ever... today TDF is just boring
@@yung_habibithey more juiced than ever, not a case VAM values and average speeds are coming back to some values and that's not just a matter of evolution for training sessions or bikes. No way we have now this gen full of these paranormal young phenomena, able to be competitive in all conditions rectius even multiple disciplines, when we have been told for thirty years and more that cycling lived on the crucial difference between even minimal specific different traits the various riders, more or less ready to the one point percentage of gradient you have or not on a specific point of a specific stage, could have at own disposal.
To be fair, the contact patch for cyclist tires is significantly smaller than that of motorbike tires, plus the centre of gravity is in a different place, especially with how light those frames are
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f I...don't understand what you're getting at? The differences are quite relevant between bicycles and motorcycles. Yes, they both use the same general physics, but a motorcycle has the benefit of a motor giving consistent output with a lower centre of gravity + wide tire patch. This lets pro motorbikers take corners at angles that road bicycles simply can't without risking loss of traction. Hell, my heavier hybrid bike with fatter tires and a flat bar lets me corner at speed much easier than on my road bike simply because of the forces involved. On top of that, the riders are enormously physically exhausted; it only takes your body locking up/you losing your focus the *_one_* time for you to lose control on a corner you've successfully taken hundreds of times. It looks like that's what happened to Robert Heras (sp?) at the timestamp you linked. He was busy overtaking and didn't notice in time that he had entered the corner wrong.
its so divious when the commentators cry about "he has to fix his preperation" we all know what they mean by that ^^ come on jan ullrich just cant swallow juice as good as lance can if you get 2nd after a human mutant
everyone doped up to the max
Best tdfs for a long time then and they are only now starting to be better again
Jonas, poggi, remco, roglic
Mvdp und wva
Exciting again i have to say
And good to see froome being done. Those were disgusting days
still tis this day
Never heard before those stages with a not italian commentary, I love to hear how Phil Lidgett and Paul Sherwen had kind of reverence for Marco. Repeatedly calling him The Pirate, emphasizing that he still was the best climber in the world and the par excellence threat to make the race explode, despite the long absence from races and a form that certainly wasn't the best, both physical and mental planes. And they did through all the roller-coaster moments he had in this Tour, touching a certain poetry during last kms to Courchevel that somehow were his Swan song. I got emotional having Cesenatico as second home since childhood, still wearing his bandana and having met his dad.
Thanks for posting this I love listening to Phill and Paul.
Glad you enjoyed it
1:03:10 lovely words from Paul Sherwin here, a touching and respectful tribute. #vegetable
many thx for this!
The French countryside is so beautiful!!
The absolute glorious days of cycling! I miss those days! Vive Le Tour
i have to give you that it was great but we have to admit they where freaking full of epo and other stuff back then i remember 2003 a guy fall after leading a mountain stage that admited years later he got dog hemoglobine^^ i dont say its any better these days but they where butchers back then having to get up every few hours for blood checks to not die ^^ wild times at least the drugs got better or genetic doping will erase any detectabilty anyway
thanks for uploading!
Lance was doing some good acting on stage 16. Phil and Paul were saying Lance is showing signs of weakness. Lance knew damn good and well he was far enough in the lead that he could fall back and try not to look like he's doping. Lance could've won that stage if he really wanted to.
Actually it was real. Reason being was Pantani doing a ferocious pace and Armstrong couldn't keep up. It worried Lance so much that he forgot to refuel which led him to bonk. Pantani in the end was actually doing too hard of a pace that he ended up getting dropped.
When he hooked up with Sheryl Crow, all of his fans knew it was over
Gonna dope it up today, get a little exercise on the bike, bully my teammates, crap on the other riders and then deny it all. Love Strong baby.
Classic Didi Senft @ 9:22…always entertaining
8 hours race how did not anyone put one and one together, yes they were all doped and yes this was the most epic times of pro cycling where individuals filled with EPO to the gills dropped world level cyclists in the dust, epic times!!
Cycling is much more exciting when everyone is juiced out of there skulls !
Gee. I hope that Lance Armstrong guy wins one of these.
I ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ dope!
Damn, Lance should have taken his 7 Jersey's and all his million's back to Texas. And just watched tv for awhile. Things would have been so different for him.
The thing that is mind blowing, is a sports science expert wrote that Armstrong conceivably would have still won those Tours, without the drugs. He stated that Lance was so physically gifted and mentally superior, he didn’t need it. So sad.
Too bad he is a narcissist, arrogant and a bully. He was an asshole to too many people and karma hit back.
How good are these guys, why don’t they attack the yellow jersey on the final stage it’s a race ??
Road cycling has a lot of unwritten rule. Never attack teammate, never attack yellow at final race, wait if your team leader crash etc etc. Imo i dont like it but im just nobody
@@muhammadfarhan581 yeah it doesn’t seem fair if you 30 seconds behind the yellow jersey on the final stage you should be allowed to attack and have a go unless it’s your team mate wearing the yellow you can’t attack
@@JohnLee-vj9lh the final stage in paris hasn’t that much difficulty to creat some real time gaps, so even if you choose to attack you would not gain that much time.
@@muhammadfarhan581 while it is an unwritten rule not to attack on the tour d’honeur (the last stage of the tour de france) it is not an unwritten rule not to attack your teammates. it is more part of the job. the team is not just your team but your employer. they come to those tours with a clear plan and personell to achieve this plan. there are leaders with the task of winning general classement, there are the domestiques, who do everything they can to help their respective leaders to achieve it. then there are the riders who hunt single stages, sprinters and so on. everybody has a designated task in those teams. if the leader somehow seems weaker than on of his domestiques the roles can very well switch. jan ullrich startet 1997 as a domestique to reigning champion bjarne rijs. as ullrich had proven, he was the stronger rider an rijs didn’t hav what it takes that year, he gave ullrich the green light to go for the win, for ullrich was the better card to play for his team, who set up to win the thing. cycling is a total team sport.
Geez these guys look like body builders compared to the riders of 2022. Weird?
Jerseys weren’t as tight or form fitting
They didn't take steroids like body builders do, do your DD before you make a stupid comment 😂
Greg Lemond commented recently that he feels that pro tour riders are way thinner than during his era. He pointed out that being that thin runs the risk of catabolizing muscle tissue, which is obviously not good.
Rewatching these tours knowing Lance was a doped donkey - along with most others gives me a different perspective.
Armstrong is a big, broad shouldered guy compared to the others.
Came up as a swimmer and triathlete. Was pretty big and muscular for a cyclist before cancer. After cancer he was 10-15 lbs. lighter, but still had a muscular frame.
@@scoobtube5746 Ahh, I knew he did tri before.. He's like my dad, when you look at him, seems thin, but it's all lean and mean muscle and bone.
Don't need to be aero with a 600w FTP 😂
This was a great presentation of the tour by you tube. To all of you "doping experts" you have no idea what it takes to do what these cyclists do, so just SHUT UP !
i dont give a fuck what anybody thinks, lance is a fucking hero.
Agreed regardless enjoy watching the tactics
He was a lousy loser.
He's not. But he was an unbelievably talented cyclist. But he was a scumbag of a person back then. Even he admits that.
Read the secret race. He's literally a psychopath
Watching this is bittersweet, because it was one of the best times in my life since Luxembourg and then being in America during the 80s Lemond years and then being duped by Lance and all of cycling completely destroying trust in cycling. I miss these years, but no longer watch any cycling. And all sports as well. They're all garbage. The only 2 that are somewhat digestible are hockey and rugby.
I don't care about the people who complained about the doping back then... it was the most fascinating time of cycle with the greatest riders ever... today TDF is just boring
You must not have watched this year's TDF.
@@dustind9242 agreed, I think the modern era is just as exciting
@@yung_habibithey more juiced than ever, not a case VAM values and average speeds are coming back to some values and that's not just a matter of evolution for training sessions or bikes.
No way we have now this gen full of these paranormal young phenomena, able to be competitive in all conditions rectius even multiple disciplines, when we have been told for thirty years and more that cycling lived on the crucial difference between even minimal specific different traits the various riders, more or less ready to the one point percentage of gradient you have or not on a specific point of a specific stage, could have at own disposal.
Le Tour de Dope! May the best doper win the bike race!
Fun to watch tho
He did
@1:03:44 its astonishing how many pro cyclst are so bad at taking corners at speed. Every pro motorbiker, however, are absolute masters in corners.
To be fair, the contact patch for cyclist tires is significantly smaller than that of motorbike tires, plus the centre of gravity is in a different place, especially with how light those frames are
@@BirdmanDeuce26 A cyclist does not practice bike handling on a motorcycle... the differences are irrelevant.
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f I...don't understand what you're getting at? The differences are quite relevant between bicycles and motorcycles. Yes, they both use the same general physics, but a motorcycle has the benefit of a motor giving consistent output with a lower centre of gravity + wide tire patch. This lets pro motorbikers take corners at angles that road bicycles simply can't without risking loss of traction. Hell, my heavier hybrid bike with fatter tires and a flat bar lets me corner at speed much easier than on my road bike simply because of the forces involved.
On top of that, the riders are enormously physically exhausted; it only takes your body locking up/you losing your focus the *_one_* time for you to lose control on a corner you've successfully taken hundreds of times. It looks like that's what happened to Robert Heras (sp?) at the timestamp you linked. He was busy overtaking and didn't notice in time that he had entered the corner wrong.
its so divious when the commentators cry about "he has to fix his preperation" we all know what they mean by that ^^ come on jan ullrich just cant swallow juice as good as lance can if you get 2nd after a human mutant
Pantani gareggiava con gente che barava
@Steve Morley we'll never know
Lance can't climb yet win le tour de france, I wonder how?
Everybody on the planet knows how. Get over it.
He was the best climber alive what the heck are you on about
Lance armstrong made in harley davinson 🤬🤬😃😃👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸made in usa
No entiendo.
@@keirfarnum6811quiere decir que iba como una moto. ¿Por qué será?🤔