How To Rig A Basic Pull Through - IRATA Level 2 Training
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- How to rig a basic pull through. And what do we call it when it gets stuck, or rather what happens after ;-)
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Love these videos! Thank you!
Beautiful 🤩 thanks Susan!!
Perfect Job
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the videos, I'm really enjoying them as a refresher!
That is awesome to hear and exactly why they are there,, do you have anything specific you would like to see??
@@TheRopeAccessChannel I love that you are breaking down the basics, that will be valuable to a lot of folks. Personally I would like to see more videos like the rope walking video. Stuff that is a little outside the way things are typically done. That video was funny to be because I have been using rope walking as an arborist for years and didn't realize I could use the same technique in my rope access work with minimal gear modification. I would also appreciate lots of Level 2 and 3 technique breakdowns especially more complex rescues and rigging. Rope protection and anchor building in tricky situations would also be great. I'm assuming you were just choosing to start with the basics and then work up to more advanced stuff which is a very logical progression. Thanks, really enjoying your work!
Usually you should never assume right 😉.. And in this case you are right. I am building the channel starting for somebody who has never seen a harness before. I like the more exotic stuff more as well and it all starts with the basics. Level 2 and 3 rescues are coming up and more. I want to make challenging rigging videos from real life and in the last 12 months I maybe had 2 jobs that were challenging. So for now it is hard to get footage of that. I think I know what you would like and I have a BIG list of things to film. This summer is L2 and L3 and then we get going with more practical stuff. Competition reporting, Rescue challenges and more.
If you have any specific ideas, just reach out!
Finally seeing this haha. I choke through the butterfly loop as well and never could get an answer from anyone if this was ok to do or not. I guess the biggest worry is hard edges.
If the edges are sharp, then this is the wrong way to rig a pull through. If, like here, the edges are smooth and round it is perfectly fine.
Thank you 👍 sir
Most welcome
Hi, thank you very much for the videos and the excellent explanation. I would like to see the must have on your harness and if it was possible to see a video on how to make a cow tail please
I think both of the topics are already covered. Each piece of necessary kit has its own video starting at the first "gear series" video and in the "putting it all together" video, I put it all together. The tying of cowstails is also already explained
Another very clear video. Just for others doing things slowly related to threading through the butterfly knot and retrieving the rope was mentioned but not why. If you do things to fast you can cut the rope. When it was mentioned about the potential difficulties to remove the cows tail you said you had two attachments when you had three. I also think you should consider maybe adding a lot more "what could go wrong" scenarios" with the more funky stuff you are showing from this may not work as expected if the ropes are going over snag points and also the risks of someone that doesn't understand the system using it in an event like a rescue. Again, your videos are very clear and well presented. Keep up thr good work and everyone else... Upvote to show support as it does make a difference.
Thanks again for your input! For now i am only focussing on the right way to do something. And I sure hope no one will copy anything blindly and start using it in unknown circumstances.
I could have mentioned why moving slow when there is rope to rope. But in trying to keep the videos on the shorter side some information does gets left out. Good thing i do have a video planned on that exact subject 😉. That also ties in with the what could go wrong part. That would be too much information. The most important was mentioned about taking the right side of the rope. All the other things I can think of are not necessarily unsafe. Especially with something so basic as this type of pull through . They just require to get back up (in a safe way) and redo the pull through. When i get to the one with steels and pulleys i do mention and show why the retrieval rope needs to go over the beam first. That just flows nicely in the progression of how to install that.
I had a look back on the 3 vs 2 connections when doing my rope management undoing that cowstail. I had 3 connection on 2 anchors. So in my world that is still only 2 connections.. Or am i missing something?
@@TheRopeAccessChannel Fair enough about keeping it simple/shorter for clarity. I agree too much info can result in overload and the message you are trying to get across being lost. Regarding the point of the points... its your video and so your world so if 3 connections on two anchors is called two connections I guess you are correct.
@@pandytbox 3 connections on 2 anchors is 2 connections. Simple. Don't wanna be rude here as you've been polite and with some good mentions, but this one is absolute. Thinking otherwise is what fails most level 1s. 😉 Good discussion here folks
@@markweedon5678 you are both getting caught up in semantics while missing my point. What was said was "I've got one point, two point of attachments so I can take this one out" then thr 3rd (whatever you want to call it) was removed. For those that are not your basic level 1 it could have been clearer to explain the 3rd (seriously, what do you call it?) Is redundant and "so I can take this one out".
Just reading back before I hit send and I realise this could be taken harshly/"rude" but I am on my phone and want to finish up and get home. Not giving anyone a hard time or shitting on techniques, just think those couple of seconds could have been described clearer for those that do not know. I think it is fair to think that is the intended audience.
Here is another video that describes a more complicated task more clearly by not getting caught up in strict IRATA terminology. czcams.com/video/sgORFItziVQ/video.html by this channel. Go to the 7:20 mark and you will hear that there is a 3rd point of contact prior to it being disconnected. It is very clear meaning to those that are not 100% sure and I think this type of communication is important when making these videos. I repeat, I think this channel does a great job, the information is clear, it was only a little thing I picked up on and I think getting caught up in IRATA terminology in this case could potentially cause confusion/injury and this is why I commented on it.
Question: Why are the stopper knots on the ground? How can they stop anything if you have already fallen to the ground? Would they not be better placed about six feet above the ground? The backup and ID would never touch the stopper knot. Any thoughts on this, Jim H.
The stopper knots are there to stop you from rappelling of the end of the ropes. As a best practice we always put them in whether necessary or not. I've had rigging changes while suspended and suddenly the rope are 5 meters above the deck.
If we use our gear properly our backup should stop us before we hit the ground, so I think stopperknots 6 ft up won't do much. You have to take them out to get to the ground anyway and that point will be the most risk of hitting the ground with rope stretch etc.
It's also good to build a nice procedures mindset. So you always be a step further. If somehow the rope does not reach the ground the stopper knot will keep you safe. Never forget, always do it.
@@guilhermebotter I agree with both of you completely, thank you, and climb fully alert. Jim