ZVD 🇺🇸 vs Alem 🇫🇷 | Florida Beatbox Battle 2024 | Semifinal 2
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Big ups to both competitors here because they both did great! Personally I feel like ZVD took this battle but no discredit to the legend Alem!
bro, this decision of the judges shows that arbitrariness can happen in battles. Judges can do whatever they want, and do not bear responsibility for their mistakes, continuing to referee battles. in football, a referee is removed from his job for an erroneous decision, but in beatboxing, everything is forgiven to the referees. Shield, gather together the entire American community and make a video message that you want these judges to be removed from work. You can do it, don’t forgive them for it. otherwise they will continue the chaos. Here the winner is ZVD and all of us commentators support him!
@@poedim_da_vipyem The only problem is that football has certain rules that a referee can enforce, whereas a judge also has to account for subjectivines, live perfomance and crowd work. you gotta remember that being in a stage filled with raging audience help differ your opinion.
Happens. A lot but what can we do. There are no clear rules
I love alem so much and what hes done for this community but I'm not sure he should have won this
He tkked zvd for good
Bro are u crazy or what ? Alem did alot of things no body can do .. besides his performance and showmanship were epic and crowd controle was incredable
@@elfilaliboubaker5217 i was there at the event, we all still believed ZVD won.
@@keek4413 you asked everyone?
@@elfilaliboubaker5217 das not true
alem is supposed to be a judge, not a contestant
so that things like this don't happen 😂
zvd had pretty much perfect execution here, his combos are so nice to listen to on stage. while i will say that i think zvd beatboxed better here, alem has such a great way of connecting with the crowd. yes, i know he's been doing this for over 10 years, but tiger shot gets me pumped up every time, i cant help it. this goes to zvd for me, but man what a great battle
If only he didn’t mess up the spit snare timing and power during round 2 2nd drop.. Alem being the savvy veteran he is, knew at that point he just had to have a clean round in his style to win
Perfect execution? Several tempo mistakes in first round and the second round was better but he used that spitsnare too much wholeheartedly..
French crowd French beatboxer. He didn't even have to try to connect.
How
the judges were simply bought
i believe zvd took that in many aspects and should have won the battle. although, i’m no judge!! loved the battle ❤️
Here the judges made a big mistake. Now I have doubts about the Competence of these people. They let their good friends through to the Finals, and not those who truly deserve it. I won't watch Swiss anymore!!!
why that statement is probably true, it shouldnt make you quit watching swiss, can't blame the editors for biased judges, gbb24 will probably hit hard as always
you know that "robberies"/"bad judging" had exist since gbb19 right? but somehow a lot of people make a huge deal in this battle
Брат ты что следишь за Битбокс сценой?😂
You realize the owner of Swiss was the only one to vote for ZVD right?
nah Alem came to battle and had the crowd with him ZVD had nearly perfect execution but could not keep up with the energy of alem. Alem engaged both the crowd and the judges in a flurry of attacks towards his opponent. If this were an elimanation then alem would have lost but it's a battle
i agree with pepounis decision here, pretty close battle but thought zvd edged it with his execution and sounds, alem’s stage presence is next level though undeniably, sick battle
come on ............ I thought it was an easy win for ZVD ..................... I'm literally shocked !!
Alem overated asf.
He got nothing new from years
@@joseonX ZVD does reuse the same rounds a lot. Alem's sounds were a cleaner and his crowd work felt better in my opinion.
Alem is the only person in the world that can spam TkKs every round and still win
Moreover u ,always did spam and didn't win anything🤣
Second Round is Important Round,coz How to Remember Your routine to The Judes...
don't forget super saiyan presence
Haha❤❤❤
cause judges are dumb
Aint no way biggest robbery after elissi
u forgot about trungbao vs markmartin
@@sgod4538 yea that too😭😭
@@sgod4538then napom vs river
ZVD brought out my two favorite routines (probably because he knew how tough it would be)
You can tell this is rigged when you hear the reaction of ZVD’s drop vs the reactions to alems goofy Pokémon beat
Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking ZVD should've won that, no disrespect to any of them but putting judges where their beatboxing styles are very old school seems definately biased towards someone such as Alem. Alem had the Energy and Quickness, ZVD had a checkmark everywhere else.
Like bad structure with spam special sounds at random moments, true
@@Boris_TheBlade_666alem did tkks his whole round and second round. I’d pick variety over alem🤷♀️
@@Boris_TheBlade_666- you clearly weren’t listening, because most of it was well-made structure with only a few actual mess-ups that were made up of those “random sounds” which actually made up for the mess-ups. And quite frankly, you talk some big game about structure coming from someone rooting for the guy who spammed a beatboxing sound that makes it really hard to NOT have structure.
@@aydenmartin4927I think Alem won this won this one because zvd reused his wildcard whereas Alem did something different (albeit with his old-school style)
@@South-uh5wu - Most of Alem’s rounds were both just constant tkk’s…
For one thing, that’s his wildcard, which he also reused, and for another he did not do anything different. He mostly just reused old routines and techniques.
After I watched this live I expected 5-0 ZVD for sure
wth are the judges doing lol, alem continues spamming the same combos every round and ZVD did both of his wildcards on stage near perfectly.
ZVD win bro for me.
Yes, zvd 👍👍
France won every event in gbb, so i didnt expect much else here
France didnt won Florida 🤡
@@wes8427 or the gbb crew category
5:28 react like that after crazy drop and two good rounds from zvd and vote after for alem is a crime.
repeated rounds , if it for repeated rounds beatboxers could use their best stuff on a lot of competitions and win every of them
@@eltoxa7554 can't be that big of a factor here since alem also used big parts of these rounds before
@@kweno1022 Zvd uses the same sounds, Alem uses the same technique. These are two different things, Alem is the building block of beatboxing.
Traitor 😢😂
@@alperoner3837 - Whatever you say buddy. Don’t think you know the definition of a technique. In fact, if you’re going by that logic, I think it’s the other way around.
Where did the attached comment from Alem go, in which he justified his victory? got scared and deleted it?
Ye i think so
absolute robbery, beatboxing has evolved and the judges need to evolve with it
ZVD: I’m a broken robot
Alem: Let it goooooo…tktktktktk
Love both of them ❤
alem in machine gun mode
Scam of the year 😂🎉
Yes, Alem should’ve won the competition 😎
I said it before but there is a serious problem with judging in beatboxing where the judges automatically vote for the guy with the bigger name regardless of performance.
I'm seeing so many younger beatboxers getting screwed over because of bias towards the older guys.
It's not bias, it's the structure. ZVD spamming double voice in second round made it really really really weak and unoriginal to me, and weak.
What you say makes no sense whatsoever for many reasons but let me give you one: if what you said was true then Alem should have won the whole thing this year, napom should have one the whole thing last year, footboxg should have won the whole thing the year before .... Napom should have won gbb last year then, I can go on and on. What you see on a battle video is far from what you feel when you're in the crowd, it's really easy to become an expert behind a screen. But crowd control, live power and sound precision are things you can only measure live. You can have your opinion of course but doubting the honesty of a judge panel full of champions is disrespectful AF, I'm not saying this to you only, I say this to all the "experts" out here. Last thing: was pacmax a big name before winning a bunch of stuff, NO, was zede famous before becoming world champ, no, was Pe4enkata a legendary name before building her legend, no........ Do you need to build your own legend before becoming a
Real judge, yes!
Peace
@@Mr.Pro-aksh26Yeah because Alem spamming tktktktktk every round is so much better.
@@idontcare3234I agree with you, this is how toxic Beatbox scene is
@@Mr.Pro-aksh26 alem has been doing rounds with the same structure and just spamming tech with no rhythm since quarters. Your argument is moot
live it must've been different
zvd got the vote from the only non-beatboxer in judge panel btw
Lol, Pepouni is also a Beatboxer.
who do you call a non beatboxer ?
@@ajesco please
@@ajesco HAHA
pep is an old-school beatboxer dawg but I get what u mean
bruh how alem win???????????
I don't know Even though ZVD took out his card in the second round
It's rigged. They want a French finalist
Alem won cuz zvd spams and basically every round from zvdee sounda the same.
@@jakki7181 all of alem's beat are tkktkk
@@jakki7181 Bro Alem is the one who spammed every round. The only round that sounded remotely different from his other ones was Tiger Shot, and even most of that was the same.
how tf zvd aint take that.....
5:27 favourite moment of the battle🔥
🔥🔥🔥
@@ngopimalam3364 indo bang?
My jaw hit the floor seeing the judges decision... crazyyyy
Why do i feel some sort of biest decisions because of fame/friendship/whatever... even though the battle was awesome, no doubt about that, hands down to both ZVD and Alem, but still... dunno how to feel about it...
Far from an expert but in my personal opinion there’s no way he won that , none the less both amazing beatboxers 👏❤️
nah sorry zvd...... we're sorry...its just rigged ma bro.....sorry❤
Yes
Alem is insane, but for me, ZVD won! ❤
The second round of Alem it's astonishing. However, I can't understand why Alem won yet...
Zvd gives me dlow energy.
Nga what 😂
Nah
I see what you mean. He reminds me of younger D-low from like 2016-2017
that's why I like ZVD, he's like new D-Low
1:21 That counter line would hurt D-low by a lot 😂
Why are judges always so biased towards the French
Bro zvd destroyed alem here!
BRO ONE OF THESE TIMES THEY SHOULD LET THE CROWD DECIDE THE WINNER
I was there and I can tell you that it would have been Alem 😂
5:27 🥶 ZVD's drop🥵
2:09 how did bro's vocal cords not burst after hitting THAT INSANE HIGH PITCH?!!!
Poor judgement ZVD clear win ❤
This is a bad joke. Idk how judges can do that without thinking about the fans noticing
zvd smoked him
Alem tkked him
@@jakki7181 alem tkks every round, Pacmax would probably never vote against him regardless of whether he messes up
@@absence9443 You'd sadly be wrong bud, but think whatever you want, if we'r not juges nor pros there are reasons
This might be one of the best examples that judging needs to be a bit more objective.
When the majority are talking about how ZVD deserves to win, there is something wrong happening and you know what i mean
Zvd deserved the win. Hands down. Alem always wins with his crowd control and technically. As a vet, why are you still still the same fast, fast? If you’re still going to compete then we should see come musicality. It’s just fast beats faster beats and then if you’re at a disadvantage, faster beats. Bring us something new. I love you Alem, I’ve watched you since your battle with Skiz, bring us something new and not so fast? Maybe?
when you are a judge you vote for zvd and that's it We should not give less value to world-class beatboxers, the effort and dedication of both opponents is appreciated, respect for both of them and for you
And who are you to tell him wich style he should bring to the stage? Im saying this with all the respect! But everyone has the decisión to make whatever they want
i mean, there was musicality, there was some placement beats over fast beats, his second roud was totally new, just his style. although i agree zvd could have won, alem was definitely deserving also
Alem tkked zvdee for good thank god
unpopular opinion but I actually think Alem beat Osis. But after this battle I really think the judges need to put more things into consideration. Sure Alem had the crowd but that doesnt mean his beatboxing was better, crowd control is just one thing in a battle and Alem had more things over Osis in their battle such as technicality and execution which is why I think he deserved to win that one. Btw I'm not a ZVD fanboy I voted for Stan in ZVD vs Stan and H1ppy in H1ppy vs ZVD
ZVD won clearly, such favoritism. There’s nothing new about Alem’s routines. Tkks are back in 2016 eras
And polyphonic noises r 5 years old if not older, tf u on about. Itsnothing new from him either.
I love them both but I don't think that alem should've win that
I love alem and not taking credit from him BUT my goodness ZVD executed this battle 🔥 . He should have won I don’t understand
ZVD WON THIS.
*Peponi, after such a refereeing error, you should not allow these judges to participate in battles anymore. All the people are unhappy with their decision. read the comments and you will understand everything yourself.*
Sure, people in the comments have better knowledge than zede pe4enkata or pacmax... It was all about timminig mistakes.
we are not stupid, and more than a hundred ordinary people wrote that ZVD performed better. There are comments here from people who have been watching beatbox battles for over ten years, and we understand a lot about it
@@poedim_da_vipyem sure, watching, not competing at the highest level. Listen to ZVDs second round. Spits snares wherever, not alike, not strong. You may not like Tks, but its not about taste. They were Sharp, strong AND accurate. The best shot against Alem is to be as clean, as loud and original (what Alem lacks the most). And ZVD was none of them. (Two already known routines)
You're all so clueless. Pepouni is the bad judge here, and in no wayb he can tell the others how to analyze a performance. If the crowd could have voted, they'd vote for Alem too.
Zvd had major tempo mistakes in first rounds.. it was even noticable to my untrained ears..
Zvd did amazing but compared to alem zvd had timing mistakes and relatively less croud control and low stage presence... Its battle with bloodshed not showcase with attractive flowers
ZVD easily won for me
I'm a big fan of alem, but in this battle i'll go for ZVD. he so sick of musicality and technicality drop🔥😁
i think zvd should be win this
L
Feels like theres too much bias for old school stuff, It just feels outdated and not even good to listen to when spamming tkKs
Dude they just picked Alem because of reputation not because of the battle, ZVD definitely won…
No disrespect to any of the competitors, but I find it hard to believe that Alem wins this battle if both came in to it with equal reputation
Great battle from 2 fantastic beatboxers. Glad i had the privilege of enjoying it.
ネタのクオリティはZVDが上回ってたように思うけど、2ラウンド目の音の入りがイマイチなのが響いたかな？
自分もzvdの方が完成度で上回っていると思ったのですが、敗因は何だったんでしょう🤔
仰る通り、私も2ラウンド目のあのミスが目立った印象です。
多少の改変はあれど彼の知名度を押し上げるキッカケとなったルーティンでのミスですからね…
審査員がBNBATTLES 2022での完全系を耳にしている場合、それだけマイナスの印象が強いのかもしれません。
個人的な感想ですけど
ZVDちょっとこのラウンド擦り過ぎかなって思います…
ジャッジももう慣れているっていうか
1:04 video starts here
There are many incidents like this, so don't be surprised.😂😂
Check the comments: ✅
ZVD is the people's favorite: ✅
Honestly when pepouni gets involved i will not expect clarity of judgement or honesty into it. ZVD was clearly better on execution and musicality and on the technical part. If we want bbx to get on the next stage we need to start to recognize that old guard can be judged not for their past but in the present.
Big up for both of them but this one was embarassing in a competion.
ZVD shoulda won this for sure good job on alem but ZVD just was more creative with his stuff and a lot more interested compared to the TkK spam of alem
old school vs new school?
actually alem considers himself as new school also... but zvd is from a newer school
@@isimyok87zvd with new sounds, thats it… not new school
@@jakki7181 that was a joke brı. Chill down
@@jakki7181 New sounds and he's from the new school. You can't just type things and make them true.
@@RahmanBeat No.
New school vs Bias.
ZVD's 1st round was so clean 🔥🔥🔥 finna put that on repeat prolly a hundred times rq lol, really close battle, personally got zvd winning though
What a mockery of the beatbox community This wasn't even close, I love Alem, but was out classed in this battle.
MR ALEM THIS IS 2024.. FANS NEEDED NEW BEAT AND MORE.... WHY U STUCK BEAT BRO LEGEND NO IMPROVE....
GG ALEM.. legenda beat stuck
the audience and judges seems stongly biased towards alem
i wonder how this sounded live, cuz I find it crazy that only pepouni voted for ZVD, must be some Alem stage power I don’t know about since I’ve never been to a battle irl LMAO
zvd win, cool battle
I think ZVD won by a clear margin. This judging reminds me of GBB-23 in many ways
the energy was crazy throughout this one. Massive ups to both, honestly could've gone either way
This reminds me of Elisii... 😂😢
Sooo clean rounds!💪👏
ZVD🔥🔥🔥
ZVD definitely took it
I love the judges and the contestants dearly, but how in gods green magical planet did Alem win???? I mean ig he has amazing crowd control and tech but he beatboxed FROZEN what what in the world 😭
I like Alem but for me ZVD Win
ZVD won!
we need round 3
Hella biased... I love Alem don't get me wrong but this battle was obviously ZVD's. I noticed the same thing in the first round of Osis vs. Bookie, and in the finals of GBB 24 Napom vs. River.. A lot of favoritism going towards the French for some reason (don't get me wrong they are stupidly good) but a lot of these rounds should've easily gone to the competitor and yet it goes to whoever is French... Favoritism is very apparent and has been for France over the past year. Very disappointing.
Sick Battle 🔥🔥
Alem is a legend but he is stucked in oldschool technic battle style
For me, feel like ZVD took this battle (by a narrow margin).
(I didn't be there, so there may be things which I don't know on video. )
5:09(5:25) 6:08(6:29) Sick
Big up to both. Much love from Japan
ZVD won this. He had the pitch in tact, new sounds, a much bigger variety of sounds, cleanliness in all of his sounds and he has his own original style which is quite rare in the scene how it is right now. Alem, as a master of technicality and crowd pleasing, here he did nothing new. The variety of his sounds was very small and of basic level, whilst ZVD's sounds are much more complex and difficult to make. The judges seemed to undeniably choose the crowd pleasing and "battle" behaviour of Alem over ZVD's pros, but the level of his characheristics in these 2 rounds were undeniably much more important and worthy than Alems'. This analysis comes from 14 years of beatboxing knowledge and from a former beatboxer as myself (former Greek Vice Champ). Congrats ZVD! Keep up with the new styles and sounds! And remember, pitch is the most important thing if you want to move the beatbox scene steps further..!
Fun fact about Alem's first round : it was meant for Jollux at first. I let you rewatch it ahah
Alem has respect from the world of beatboxing because of this he won😂😂
Now I understand why ZVD has that face on the cover in the video, it is an ironic laugh at this competition that votes for friendship and not for who really did it best..
Hey now, peppouni did not need hit for his vote. This was a close battle!
Pac max got to be the weirdest dude
Why’s he catching strays😂
It seems that ZVD is indeed the people’s favorite 😂
For me it was ZVD who win.
uhh.. how come judges?? Zvd should win for this battle. big questions.
zvd win imo
Zvd is really leveling up.. this guy is nuts.. really had me on the edge of my seat.. Alem being the veteran he is just took it.. but I still think Zvd got it.. Great battle!
Let the record show there is a major problem with beatbox judges as evidenced by this battle
Why is the beatbox community in the comments so toxic nowadays 😒
How are we toxic for stating an opinion ? Honestly it’s more than an opinion at this point . It’s facts💯
Judges, why?